Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[GHScorpiosRule]

11 minutes ago, JMO said:

I also think Alexis is due some sort of message from Jax, at the very least.

Who?

He barely had scenes with her during his last run.

[sashabear21]

2 hours ago, statsgirl said:

What struck me mot through all this episode is how insulting it is to Kelly Monaco that they are spending weeks of screentime eulogizing Sam after she was fired. This is what a longtime character like Bobbie should have got when JZ died. Not a character who died because Frank was petty about the actress.

True, although poor Kin Shriner didn't even get a sendoff at all. I think he just probably figured it out when his parking card got deactivated.  

[TVbitch]

It was well done, and I think the Danny actor stepped up his game a bit. I'm actually more interested in how Rocco/Danny/Scout will go forward than anyone else. No offense to Gio, but I think Sam may have preferred they crank up the AC/DC at the end.

LMAO when nuLu awakened and casually rubbed her eyes like one does if they've been staring at the computer too long. 

[dubbel zout]

40 minutes ago, JMO said:

I continue to be impressed with DZ's portrayal of restrained grief, someone who was lost and then found by Sam, who can't afford to be lost again, for the sake of the kids. 

I'd really like to see Dante and the kids all have a good cry together.  The kids would see it's okay to have these feelings and that adults have them as well. To cry with your family would comforting, IMO, especially as the kids are so adamant that they are a family.

[JMO]

29 minutes ago, sashabear21 said:

True, although poor Kin Shriner didn't even get a sendoff at all. I think he just probably figured it out when his parking card got deactivated.  

I thought he was out because of an injury, no? 

55 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Who?

He barely had scenes with her during his last run.

I'm old.  I remember their pseudo-marriage and good friendship.

[Auntie Velvet]

5 hours ago, Sake614 said:

I expect that to abruptly change when Beyond the Gates premieres and knocks GH even further down in the ratings than it is already. The show is already hemorrhaging viewers and with fresh competition in the 2 pm ET slot, GH will have to do something.

I did not connect the dots before reading your comment, but I WAS noticing that they're adding Black actors, and also giving more prominent SLs to existing Black characters. That's all to the good, but I KNEW there must be a cynical reason for it.

Anyone else think Spencer's ghost was just hanging out at his cousin's funeral for half a sec? Gio really does look like him from certain angles.

Edited Wednesday at 12:44 AM by Auntie Velvet

[Katy M]

I'm a day behind as usual, but of all the people that could have overheard that Jason punched Drew, why Rocco?  What does he care?

And is Drew going to take Scout with him?  I was hoping she could stay with Dante.  I feel like her brothers are better for her than Drew.  Even Jason showed more caring and compassion when telling that Sam died than Drew has since.

[Auntie Velvet]

1 hour ago, sashabear21 said:

True, although poor Kin Shriner didn't even get a sendoff at all. I think he just probably figured it out when his parking card got deactivated.  

Even though Kin always whines about his getting "canned" on social media each time his run is up, Scotty has very much been an off and on character for ages now. He'll be back.

7 minutes ago, Katy M said:

I'm a day behind as usual, but of all the people that could have overheard that Jason punched Drew, why Rocco?  What does he care?

Well, because his dad punched his sister's dad, basically. It's a little awkward for the kids, which even Carly grasped.

[GHScorpiosRule]

13 minutes ago, Auntie Velvet said:

Well, because his dad punched his sister's dad, basically. It's a little awkward for the kids, which even Carly grasped

No, Rocco’s dad is Dante. Danny’s is Jason, who punched Drew.

[Katy M]

25 minutes ago, Auntie Velvet said:

Even though Kin always whines about his getting "canned" on social media each time his run is up, Scotty has very much been an off and on character for ages now. He'll be back.

Well, because his dad punched his sister's dad, basically. It's a little awkward for the kids, which even Carly grasped.

Jason's not Rocco's dad.  I would have understood if they had had Danny overhear.

[Cheyanne11]

3 hours ago, TVbitch said:

LMAO when nuLu awakened and casually rubbed her eyes like one does if they've been staring at the computer too long. 

Great arm strength after being in a coma for almost four years, lol.

[GHScorpiosRule]

So no Brook Lynn or Ned at the funeral? 

Alrighty then.

[Artsda]

That was hard. Dante, Rocco, Danny, and Alexis. Then her sitting alone while Gio played. 

No Diane, Leo, Brooke and Ned? Michael in the back while Nina there close? Lucas and Ava should have been there. 

I wish Nikolas or Valentine could have walked in for Alexis. 

Ava has more respect than Ric. She stayed away from her niece funeral for others. 

Who asked Liz and Carly to speak? Sam was yelling at Carly weeks ago. But seeing her be slapped flashback was brightside.

 

 

[sashabear21]

3 hours ago, JMO said:

I thought he was out because of an injury, no? 

 

I read that it wasn't due to his foot surgery, but I think it was on one of those celebrity rumor sites, so who knows? 

I liked Ava's talk with Lucas, he's blaming himself like she died on the table because of a mistake he made and that's just not the case. I know Danny yelled at him but he's a kid who's just lost his mom and is going to direct that grief anywhere he can.  

I think the funeral was well done (a lot of the actors have knocked it out of the park) and I'm glad they didn't cheap out on the flashbacks. 

Nina, I usually like you but shut up. 

Lulu opening her eyes as Sam's funeral ended gave me Game of Thrones flashbacks. Is Sam a direwolf? 

[Bringonthedrama]

5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Is Giovanni Mazza on contract? If so, this feels like a minimums appearance. Lucas wasn't at the funeral because one of the boys yelled at him for killing Sam and Lucas decided his presence would only upset everyone.

Regardless, Gio has only been in Port Charles since the BLQ + Chase wedding and hasn't been in scenes with Sam or the three kids, so his presence seemed very out of place. I saw that Danny yelled at nuLucas and he ran out of the church. But that doesn't explain why Leo, Lucas and Sam's biological brother/Julian's youngest child, wasn't at the funeral next to his mother. When Ned adopted Leo, Sam showed up to support Leo. Most recently, Scout said "Olivia and Leo say Mommy is a hero." So Leo definitely knows his sister Sam and has been around her children at the Q mansion numerous times. It's a glaring error to me that he wasn't there with Olivia, yet Gio was there the entire time. 

I also kept waiting for nuLucas or Ava to mention his last decent living sibling, Leo. 

Edited Wednesday at 02:57 AM by Bringonthedrama

[Sake614]

6 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

I am very excited about this, which means I’ll probably be disappointed, ha!  Do we have an air date for when Gates will start?

Feb 25. I can’t wait. The cast is amazing!

[Sake614]

Okay so after a week of not crying, I was back to a puddle of tears throughout the show. Well done by everyone. Well except Drew, who kept looking pissed, confused, bored even while watching his daughter. And TJ who just sat there looking like he wanted to be anywhere else. He just sat there far away from Molly, the woman he supposedly loves, and never once made an attempt to comfort her. Not even a simple gesture like holding her hand. 

I wasn’t watching when the Sam/Alexis flashback happened. Why did Alexis want her to induce labor? I guess Kristina needed an organ or something? I thought it was an odd scene to flashback to for Alexis. I would have expected the scene when she first told Sam they were mother and daughter, since Alexis was talking about not raising her and how they didn’t have a great relationship in the beginning. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

8 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

I wasn’t watching when the Sam/Alexis flashback happened. Why did Alexis want her to induce labor? I guess Kristina needed an organ or something?

To use the cord, I think? The scene was used to show how antagonistic their relationship started out before it was revealed Sam was Alexis’ daughter. In the end, Baby Lila was a tock, and her cord/stem cells (???) was used to save Kristina. And that’s how Mooby learned he was her father.

[mostlylurking]

Well dammit Spinelli got me right in the feels.  A rare understated performance by Bradford.  I loved the flashback.  They were babies!

Little Scout just breaks my heart.  All the kids did great.  It was a very sweet gesture that Jason stood up there supporting Danny.  However the absence of Laura, Brooklyn, and Ned was glaring.  Maxie should have probably spoken as well but I guess she had already had her moment before the ceremony and Spinelli kind of spoke for both of them.

Other than that, it was really well done.  This send off was huge.  I cried a lot.  And again I absolutely loved the flashbacks.

I hope the kids get to stay together.  Scout needs her brothers and family right now, not to be shipped off to Washington where she doesn’t know anyone and Drew is never around.

Ok Lulu the Third, you’re up.  Let’s see who Lulu will be this time.

Edited Wednesday at 04:46 AM by mostlylurking

[mostlylurking]

Oh one more thing I really loved Alexis calling her and Sam’s journey a love story.  That really got me.  To be able to call your relationship with your child a love story is just beautiful, and truly a gift.

[ByaNose]

When they showed Gio sitting next to Joss and not Dex I knew he was going to play his violin. Sure enough he played it at the end. LOL!!!!! He plays the violin beautifully but Gio isn’t working or being written for. This character was not thought out well at all. I forget what writing team created the character but it’s been six months and nothing. Danny, Rocco and Scout have done more than him. Very weird.

The funeral was nicely done. It was odd that Curtis and Portia didn’t have any lines. The cast must have hated them on day of taping. LOL!!!! Also, Maxie didn’t have any lines or speak which was a major blunder. I thought Diane would have been there but I guess she met contracted minimum for the month. LOL!!!!!

[Daisy]

Wally probably had DOOL duty but i really wonder if sometimes it jsut doesn't make sense to have "the role of Ned Quatermaine is...." ya know?

Laura not being there makes sense. it's a sad, fraught time, and I don't think she wants to be a visual reminder of why this is happening. 

[Asp Burger]

I'll admit, as I periodically do, to having a soft spot for Bradford Anderson. Spinelli is Spinelli, but what BA does with him doesn't remind me of any other character I've seen, and like everyone who's been watching TV and seeing movies since the '80s, I've seen enough talkative, socially awkward computer geeks to fill several football stadiums. It isn't entirely for bad reasons that BA took hold and made what could have been a short-termer a significant recurring character for...almost 20 years now? (checks dates) Yep. Just had his 18th GH anniversary on November 13. 

Also, BA seems like a very nice person off the show. I'm not a regular listener of that podcast he has with Burton, but on the few occasions I've listened, he's made a good impression. He's been kind and warm and genuinely interested with the guests.

[sashabear21]

As much I enjoyed seeing Carly get smacked in the flashbacks, I'm glad the flashbacks ended showing the female friendships that have evolved on the show.  The earlier flashbacks really highlighted (to me at least because it was a big reason I quit the show for a good while) the misogyny in place at the time and how there were no female friendships, they were all just antagonistic and slapping each other, calling each other trash and whores (usually over Jason or Sonny, and ladies neither one is worth it!). Alexis was awful during the time of the Kristina needs cord blood storyline, and I understand she was a mother with a dying child, but as soon as she found out Sonny was the father of Sam's baby she was pretty relentless in demanding she give birth early. If my recall is correct, Sam was okay with donating the cord blood to save Kristina but wanted to wait until she gave birth naturally. Can you imagine the outrage now if Laura had been screaming at Sam to give up her liver and that if Lulu died it was on her? 

[GHScorpiosRule]

So, I guess the funeral was just supposed to be attended by those who were related to Sam or were her friends, former rivals, and former lovers?

Because I didn't see Felicia or Mac, either, aside from others that were mentioned upthread. So much for community.

I just remember Lucky's funeral. Okay, yes, better production values, and I guess the show had a bigger budget, but it seemed to me, like nearly the whole town showed up.

I guess I should be grateful that bigot Natalia didn't show up on Mooby's arm.

Sorry Elizabeth. But there's just nothing "more" or deep about Cujo. I know it was supposed to be about getting along, but nope. Not with her. Nor do I want to understand that heifer or see Elizabeth and her being "friends" now. Nope, nope, nope.

That said, my next piece, I know will be unpopular, but it must be said:

Sorry, Jason. it wasn't Sam who taught you about life or love, or knowing the difference between banging/fucking/boinking and making love. That would be ROBIN. She helped shave off some of your anger-boy Borgness when you woke up a brain damaged amnesiac who didn't know anything but rage. You helped her, and she also helped you.

So FUCK OFF, SHOW. I know what I know and what I watched over the years.

Ahem.

I must have a cold and black heart because only Nancy Lee Grahn/Alexis had me tearing up yesterday. And I guess they couldn't use flashbacks with Sam and Kristina and Molly when they were wee, because hey, both are now being played by different actresses.

Edited Wednesday at 10:00 PM by GHScorpiosRule

[dubbel zout]

12 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

But that doesn't explain why Leo, Lucas and Sam's biological brother/Julian's youngest child, wasn't at the funeral next to his mother.

The actor who plays Leo, Easton Rocket Swede, has autism like Leo does. It's possible the funeral scenes would have been difficult for him for a variety of reasons.

12 hours ago, Sake614 said:

And TJ who just sat there looking like he wanted to be anywhere else.

I finally realized that Tajh Bellow has resting irritated face, which is unfortunate for where TJ is at the moment, as he always looks unsympathetic/annoyed wherever he is.

8 hours ago, Daisy said:

Laura not being there makes sense. it's a sad, fraught time, and I don't think she wants to be a visual reminder of why this is happening. 

Ditto. She's in a very awkward position through no fault of her own.

[Asp Burger]

Watching the Tuesday funeral episode now. OMG, we actually got a "loved with her whole heart"? And Carly was the one who said it?  

If she had taken a slight pause and then added "Not just a part of it!" I really would have been able to convince myself it was 2005.

[Bringonthedrama]

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

That said, my next piece, I know will be unpopular, but it must be said:

Sorry, Jason. it wasn't Sam who taught you about life or love, or knowing the difference between banging/fucking/boinking and making love. That would be ROBIN.

Jason said Sam taught him a lot about life. That's fair; they lived together and were a couple on and off for years. He never even alluded to sex or hinted about learning more from Sam than he did from Robin. My favorite moment of Jason's brief monologue was when he seemed to be talking directly to Scout about Sam. I swear "Uncle Jason" cares more about poor young Scout than her own father does. The Drew character that Billy Miller originated has certainly been ruined by the Show's writers (although CM's acting hasn't helped.)

The funeral scenes also highlighted for me how alone in life and pathetic, Jason really is. Sam had Dante and her family, some friends, and associated people. Jason has essentially four relationships in his life: Sonny and Carly who mostly need/use him, Michael who also mostly needs him because he's an adult in age only, and his friendship with Spinelli (Maxie by association with Spin and Sam). He and Elizabeth are friendly now mostly because of the Jake connection but they don't see each other on purpose often and aren't close. He has the undefined connection with Anna. He knows Sam's family, Carly and Sonny's kids, his own two sons, attorney Diane, he knows his various Q bio relatives and associated folks, but he doesn't actually have relationships with any of them. He's 50ish years old and fine with living in a small room above Kelly's and not having any quality relationships other than his friendship with Spinelli. That's a sad life. 

Both Elizabeth and Sam moved on and got more out of life and relationships than they would ever have with Jason as a so-called partner. They both finally accepted, as Robin had many years earlier, that Jason and Sonny's "business" and Sonny/Carly's family would always be Jason's top priority. 

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

The actor who plays Leo, Easton Rocket Swede, has autism like Leo does. It's possible the funeral scenes would have been difficult for him for a variety of reasons.

I know the young actor has autism like Leo does. But there's no reason (unless the boy is very sick right now) that Leo couldn't have appeared for part of the episode. He could sit next to Olivia briefly and after Spinelli's tribute to Sam was over, have a shot of Sonny asking Olivia why she's texting and she says this funeral is too upsetting for Leo so I'm telling Ned to come pick him up - he's waiting outside.  At least that demonstrates Sam and Leo cared about each other as siblings and the Show didn't just forget about him.

It reminds me of the Show never giving a good reason/excuse for why Robin and Lucky didn't appear at Bobbie Jones's funeral. 

Edited Wednesday at 05:41 PM by Bringonthedrama

[jsbt]

22 hours ago, Sake614 said:

I expect that to abruptly change when Beyond the Gates premieres

Nope! More Sonny, Natalia, Sidwell, Sasha, Carly and Kristina whining about "Adella" in front of every surviving member of her family!

[ciarra]

1 hour ago, Asp Burger said:

Watching the Tuesday funeral episode now. OMG, we actually got a "loved with her whole heart"? And Carly was the one who said it?  

Nothing about Sam's love for snow globes or penguins, though.  I heard she could stare at them for hours.

Casket should have been black, or edgier.  Her jacket should have been there.

 

[dubbel zout]

24 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I swear "Uncle Jason" cares more about poor young Scout than her own father does.

Everybody cares more about poor young Scout that her own father does. Drew is the worst.

[jsbt]

To his credit, Leo/Sweda has proven fairly capable of handling a lot of big group scenes. I would assume they just didn't want to trot him out for this one for the same reasons they don't bring a lot of people out for functions they should appear at. I keep forgetting Leo is Sam's brother; I honestly don't remember them having much of a relationship but I agree it's an oversight.

Edited Wednesday at 06:09 PM by jsbt

[statsgirl]

1 minute ago, dubbel zout said:

Everybody cares more about poor young Scout that her own father does. Drew is the worst.

He wasn't even sitting with Scout. She was with her real family.

I don't mind that Leo wasn't there at the funeral. He was Sam's half brother but also young and tangential enough in her life that it wouldn't help him to be at the funeral and hear everyone sad about Sam dying. It wouldn't help him to attend and Sam is beyond caring.

28 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

The funeral scenes also highlighted for me how alone in life and pathetic, Jason really is.

It's all his choice though. Monica is always desperate to have more contact with him, Danny idolizes him and wants more, Jake has given up on having a real relationship with his father. He chose to protect Carly over going back to Port Charles and a possible relationship with Britt.

If he wanted relationships with the people on Port Charles, he would be welcomed with open arms. But he doesn't.

[GHScorpiosRule]

29 minutes ago, jsbt said:

I keep forgetting Leo is Sam's brother; I honestly don't remember them having much of a relationship but I agree it's an oversight.

I don't remember Sam and Lucas being close, either. But with this recast and Sam's death, of course they now have had the closest bestest relationship evah!

Same with this NuNot!Lucas and Cujo.

But there's no such thing as continuity, canon or history any longer, unless plot demands it.

[jsbt]

17 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I don't remember Sam and Lucas being close, either. But with this recast and Sam's death, of course they now have had the closest bestest relationship evah!

Lucas and Sam did have some bond in the RC years, even if I never bought into Julian being her father or the forced attempt to make them all connect as makeshift family. And Lucas and Carly's bond I can buy. I do think VH has pretty good chemistry with Laura and Kirsten Storms, but both those women can conjure good chemistry and history with almost anyone. It's everything else he's doing performance-wise on canvas I find real messy to watch.

[Daisy]

2 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

It reminds me of the Show never giving a good reason/excuse for why Robin and Lucky didn't appear at Bobbie Jones's funeral. 

honestly for me it makes sense. sometimes you simply can't make it. when my grandma died I couldn't go to her funeral because I lived 1/2 way across the country and it simply wasn't possible. somethings don't really need to be stated sometimes. 

[tessaray]

Ooh, fake flashbacks. Usually I hate them but since I didn't have any idea how or if Lulu and Cyrus interacted it really did help. And Lulu not knowing Cyrus is "reformed" adds layers.

This Portia I don't mind. This Jason either. Or this side of Kristina, supporting Dante. Too bad they're siblings, Mansi has good chemistry with him. 

I'm glad Lulu fell out of bed but I call bs on the rest.

[Sake614]

1 hour ago, jsbt said:

Nope! More Sonny, Natalia, Sidwell, Sasha, Carly and Kristina whining about "Adella" in front of every surviving member of her family!

I’m not sure I agree. As I said, they have to do SOMETHING to staunch the bleeding in viewers, and if BTG is successfull,it will pull remaining Blsck viewers from GH. I don’t expect GH to make a real investment in its Black characters, but it will have to at least pay lip service to them. I believe that’s why Kai was brought on for Trina. But like with everything else, time will tell.

[GHScorpiosRule]

5 minutes ago, Daisy said:

honestly for me it makes sense. sometimes you simply can't make it. when my grandma died I couldn't go to her funeral because I lived 1/2 way across the country and it simply wasn't possible. somethings don't really need to be stated sometimes. 

I may be misremembering (it was a looong time ago), but I remember actors returning for Grandpa Horton's funeral when the actor, MacDonald Carey, passed away in real life on Days of Our Lives.

Bobbie wasn't just a relatively new character; she'd been on the show for decades, and played by the same actress, Jackie Zeman. So if Kimberly couldn't make it (JJ was still in Ireland I think), there should have been a line of dialogue explaining her absence. We already knew Lucky was in Africa.

[Daisy]

1 minute ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I may be misremembering (it was a looong time ago), but I remember actors returning for Grandpa Horton's funeral when the actor, MacDonald Carey, passed away in real life on Days of Our Lives.

Bobbie wasn't just a relatively new character; she'd been on the show for decades, and played by the same actress, Jackie Zeman. So if Kimberly couldn't make it (JJ was still in Ireland I think), there should have been a line of dialogue explaining her absence. We already knew Lucky was in Africa.

yeah i know. and i get it. like sometimes it's nice to have the line. but i am just saying  in the show  as we knew. Robin's in California, and Lucky was doing whatever in Ireland [or Africa] while it would be nice to say "yeah they are there." sometimes it's just a given that people can't be there. [again real life example, me and my grandma. I couldn't go and it's not like my mom needed to explain it to everyone].  it's just one of those things where I'm not really gonna fault the show on (as there is WAY too many things to grouse about lol)

[YaddaYadda]

16 minutes ago, tessaray said:

And Lulu not knowing Cyrus is "reformed" adds layers.

Not all that reformed since he's probably the one who injected Sam with the digitalis.

Sam did write a new will. It was on Alexis's desk the day she went to the office after Sam died. It was in a brown envelope. If Alexis takes everyone to court, that might end up being the place where the truth about Drew and Willow sleeping together comes out.

I really liked the interaction between Danny and Jason and what Danny told his father about how beating up Drew hurt people they love.

Lulu sure looks fresh as a daisy. At least we got something about her legs not really working.

[mostlylurking]

5 hours ago, sashabear21 said:

Alexis was awful during the time of the Kristina needs cord blood storyline, and I understand she was a mother with a dying child, but as soon as she found out Sonny was the father of Sam's baby she was pretty relentless in demanding she give birth early. If my recall is correct, Sam was okay with donating the cord blood to save Kristina but wanted to wait until she gave birth naturally.

Yes Alexis was awful during that time and seeing it now all these years later it looks even worse.  
 

7 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

I'll admit, as I periodically do, to having a soft spot for Bradford Anderson. Spinelli is Spinelli, but what BA does with him doesn't remind me of any other character I've seen, and like everyone who's been watching TV and seeing movies since the '80s, I've seen enough talkative, socially awkward computer geeks to fill several football stadiums. It isn't entirely for bad reasons that BA took hold and made what could have been a short-termer a significant recurring character for...almost 20 years now? (checks dates) Yep. Just had his 18th GH anniversary on November 13. 

I feel the same!  I don’t need to see Spinelli every single day but I do like Bradford and I like Spinelli (in small doses).  And 18 years holy hell….HOW has is been that long?!

[Daisy]

Ahh So i guess Lulu is gonna sound like Alexa i guess. 

[Bringonthedrama]

2 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Danny idolizes him and wants more,

I liked the scene today of Danny calling out Jason about his fight with Drew, that his actions aren't contained and do hurt others --seeing Drew's injured face really upset Scout.  It's sad and pathetic that it takes his own son, a teenager, to get him to feel remorse for handling things the way he did. 

Danny dear, it would be awkward for your mom to talk about your elder deceased sister since the father was your "brother" Rocco's grandfather/Dante's dad. I get the impression that Sam let the kids believe Jason was the father?

So Lulu remembers evil Cyrus, and clearly Cyrus is going to turn out to be the one who gave/arranged for Sam to get the d-name drug in surgery, who set up Elizabeth/nursing staff to take the fall for her death and is trying to control nuLulu's health status and manipulate Laura with it.

I really thought Cyrus was going to find nuLulu on the floor when she fell, after his "promise" and they would have a showdown.

I so very much want someone to tell Lulu "You look so different without the crown of Christmas lights on your head."

It's such fanservice that Lucky is going to walk away from Brennan's offer in this moment out of love/concern for Elizabeth, thanks to nuLucas' phone call. Not because he's received urgent news about nuLulu or because he thinks he should be a present father.

The Dante-Kristina talk about Sam was really well done.

 

Edited Wednesday at 08:34 PM by Bringonthedrama

[tessaray]

3 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I so very much want someone to tell Lulu "You look so different without the crown of Christmas lights on your head."

I clearly missed something when I was on the barge.  

[ljr]

So lulu wakes up and then what? She finds out her dad and aunt are dead?  Where will she live? 

[tessaray]

15 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Ahh So i guess Lulu is gonna sound like Alexa i guess. 

I could be jumping to conclusions based on a scene that lasted a few seconds but it seemed like Alexa was channeling Lulu #2, Ace Reporter. 

[dubbel zout]

4 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I really liked the interaction between Danny and Jason and what Danny told his father about how beating up Drew hurt people they love.

Look at Jason, mustering up some human emotion and trying to be a good parent.

I wouldn't say that Kristina and Molly have come together. They've put their squabbling aside for the time being. I'm sure Ava's trial will restart that.

21 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

The Dante-Kristina talk about Sam was really well done.

It really was.

Get a union rep, Elizabeth! Portia is the last person to be heading an investigation into Sam receiving digitalis.

[tessaray]

28 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

So Lulu remembers evil Cyrus, and clearly Cyrus is going to turn out to be the one who gave/arranged for Sam to get the d-name drug in surgery, who set up Elizabeth/nursing staff to take the fall for her death and is trying to control nuLulu's health status and manipulate Laura with it.

I can't help but think this will all end up being a red herring though it would be a perfect way to permanently write out Cyrus. I like the actor but Cyrus, not so much. Whiny criminals, reformed or not, are not entertaining.

[Bringonthedrama]

23 minutes ago, tessaray said:

I can't help but think this will all end up being a red herring though it would be a perfect way to permanently write out Cyrus.

It could be a red herring but it makes sense that Cyrus would be the killer. Cyrus used Julian to set up the bomb that was supposed to take out Jason. Instead his sister Laura's daughter was severely injured and she (rightly) blamed Cyrus. What better way to weaken/distract Jason long-term (in theory) and Sonny than with the death of Sam that they never saw coming, and make Dante available to ex-wife Lulu in the event she recovers? He has already been doing his best to use Lulu's condition to get time with/try to manipulate Laura. He wants Laura's attention and wouldn't hesitate to kill someone to make it seem like he's played an important role in "giving her the family back."

ETA: It sort of reminds me of the time leading up to Ryan murdering Kiki.  Ava complained bitterly and often in front of "Kevin" (who was really Ryan) about losing Griffin to Kiki. You would think her daughter was the cause of her misery. So in Ryan's twisted thinking, Kiki being removed from her life solves the problem. In this case, Cyrus thinks killing Sam solves multiple problems, but especially helps Laura's family.  

Edited Wednesday at 09:29 PM by Bringonthedrama