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I was in the process of replying in the Rory/Logan thread and realized that most of my response was focused on how Rory viewed herself and her life versus her reality and thought it might make an interesting thread. This might be an unpopular opinion, but as much as they tried to show Rory as being someone of "humble origins", she just wasn't. Even though FND (and her developing a relationship with her grandparents) didn't start until she was a sophomore in high school, Rory did spend a limited amount of time at her grandparents house before that (based on talk about being their for the annual Christmas party). So as much as Lorelei tried to shield her from that life, Rory was aware that her grandparents lived in a mansion and had servants. Not to mention, her goal was to attend Harvard and, in order to get her there, she applied to Chilton, a private prep school. I find it very hard to believe that someone as intelligent as Rory wouldn't have been aware of how much it would cost to attend Chilton and that it would be difficult for the manager of an inn to come up with the tuition. At various times throughout the series, she discovered that her mom had money issues, but I think the only time we saw her react to those issues was when she got the cafeteria job. I know she did occasionally tell her mom not to worry about money problems, that she'd figure things out, but never once acted in the way that a working or lower middle class person would have acted when they realized that their academic goals might not have been affordable. And to me, that always takes me out of the story. We are led to believe that Rory's earliest memories of home were living in a potting shed, with a bathroom addition. Her mom was a housekeeper and they lived in a small town. So we are supposed to accept that Rory, a transplant to the community, is the wunderkind, golden child of Stars Hollow. Why were none of the parents of Rory's old peers thrilled when she left? They should have been overjoyed that she was gone. And as far Logan treatment goes, I felt he generally treated her like an equal, both intellectually and from a "social/class" standpoint, and he had no problem cluing her in to how the real world works (at least for her). I mean, as much as she felt that she and Marty were equals at Yale, she didn't have to get a job in order to help pay for Yale expenses like Marty did.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, except for one key thing. It can be difficult to know when a person is in the middle of a blackout, as they can participate in a conversation and seem to be aware of what is going on around them. Also, there were questions in the thread for the last episode about whether or not this was a dorm party and it's now been confirmed that it was. I lived in an apartment throughout college, but my recollection of college parties was that one with a keg and jungle juice would never have happened in a dorm setting. Is that at all an accurate scenario for anyone? I had plenty of friends who lived in dorms and there was alcohol, but it was more along the lines of someone having a 6 pack of beer or a bottle of vodka. When I went back to college as an adult to get a different degree, I had to take a couple of intro classes. For one class I took, I joined a study group and we agree it was easiest to meet in the dorm room of a member, since we could only meet at night and it was roughly an equal distance for most of the members to travel. Anyway, my disconnect with the dorm party is because of my recent experience to dorm life, because it was a massive pain in the ass to get in the dorm for the study session. As a non-resident, I was not allowed to enter the dorm unaccompanied (and this was an all ages dorm, not a freshman exclusive dorm situation), which meant that if a resident held the door open for me to enter, they would be stopped and would have to take responsibility for my presence. In order for me to have access, I would have to call the member of my study group and wait outside for them to come down and let me in. Then we would be stopped at the front desk, where they would have to show their ID and I would have to relinquish mine and we both would have to sign the logbook, stating that I was their guest and they took responsibility for my actions. When I left, I would have to sign myself out in order to get my ID back. I don't know if my experience is typical for dorm life now, but if it is, how on earth were they able to have that kind of a party in the dorms?

In the scene we were shown twice of Bay and Tank in bed together, the wording is almost identical, except at the beginning of the scene. The first time we see the scene, Bay says he's awesome and that she should have given him more of a chance. When she speaks about her and Emmett, her voice sounds wistful and sad. Tank then says he never got over her, says she's beautiful and she turns to him, puts her hand on his chest, smiles, and kisses him. He gently pushes her away and they both say they are really drunk. The second time we see the scene, Bay thanks him for being her friend and he asked why things didn't work out with them. She doesn't answer, then talks about her and Emmett, with her tone sounding regretful. Tank says he never got over her, says she's beautiful, then turns to face her and kisses her. She gently pushes him away and they both say they are drunk. Honestly, if they wanted to do a story about informed consent, I wish they had been more original, because I feel like I've seen this on tv plenty of times. For me, it would have been interesting to see how this would have played out if it was Emmett and Bay. If we are calling what happened between Tank and Bay rape, then it would also be rape if it was Emmett instead, yet there's an assumption that being in a relationship means automatic implied consent. Moving on, Daphne's storyline at the teacher's house was annoying. If the school found out that she was fraternizing with current students, there would have been disciplinary action. It shows blatant favoritism and I'm sure the rest of the students in her class would have been angry to discover that their professor was, at the least, giving them special attention, and at most, maybe changing their grades. (I had a friend who became very good friends with one of her professors; one that she took multiple classes with. They socialized regularly outside of class and, at one point, became an unofficial TA for the professor. She told me that she regularly graded the tests of this professor's intro class and once wrote a test for the class she was currently taking. If you were in that class, wouldn't you be angry about that?) I am a huge advocate of getting more woman involved in STEM fields, so I do appreciate what the professor was trying to do. Women are so underrepresented and I think that having an all female group doing an experiment was somewhat of a good idea, just not at her home. However, it never really sits well with me when women in male dominated fields are encouraged to focus on working together, just because they are a minority. When I've worked in a group with both men and women, I've found that I have to be assertive in order to have my voice heard. There's a big difference between being assertive and hostile and I wish the professor had made it clear that you can compete or disagree with someone without assuming they are the enemy. I think I would have taken the point of the scene better if this was a group assignment that they botched. Also, a mild annoyance? R2D2 is from Star Wars, not Star Trek. And what was with the giggling and rolling of the eyes? If the point of that was to show that the professor was unusual because she was a woman who likes sci-fi, but it's ok because she's "still pretty cool, though", well, way to reinforce a stereotype, show.

Aquarian1, you just make me realize that Mike drafted Louis' contract. I'm not sure how these things work, but wouldn't Mike's name be on the contract as the author? I guess I'm assuming that there's some sort of notation about who worked on what at law firms, so that a firm can't omit people if they get investigated or sued. If that's the case, then Louis has all the proof he would ever need if he did decide to bust them. Before, he just had the fact that Mike didn't have a file in the Harvard archive, but now he has an official Pearson, Specter, Litt contract, written by Fake Lawyer Mike and Jessica, stating flat out that Mike is a fraud. That would prove that both Harvey and Jessica knew about it and any delay that Louis would have about alerting the authorities, he could say that he was trying to find out how many people on the board knew about it.

"Enough is Enough" pretty well sums up how I feel about all of these people passing the buck about "Mike's secret". Every person that's found out about the lie and didn't immediately turn him shares just as much of the blame as Harvey does, as far as I'm concerned. Good grief, HOW many people know about this now? Off the top of my head, Jessica, Harvey, Louis, Donna, Rachel, Scottie all know. Oh, and the best friend and girlfriend from the first season both know. Does Mike's secretary from "I was an investment banker during my summer vacation" know? Does Katrina? And really, I'm guessing most of the underlings of the firm know, considering how many casual, but hushed conversations these people have had in the break room, the file room, or in the hallways. Actually, I'd love for the firm to get busted by some random person from the mail room.

You've said what I've been thinking, but couldn't find the words for. We have no context for any of the snippets in the promo, so all we know for sure at this point is that Bay woke up naked and in bed with Tank.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of shows that haven't already been mentioned, but have thoughts about some that have. My So-Called Life - I'm the age of the characters and I guess it's supposed to be "my" coming of age drama, but I hated this show when it was on the air. I couldn't relate to the teen characters and found them all to be whiny, spoiled, insufferable brats. A couple of years ago, I decided to try it again, just to see if I could understand why everyone in my age group loved it and my opinion didn't change. Battlestar Galactica (2003) - I'm a huge sci-fi fan and this is one of the few shows I hadn't watched, and since it has so many great reviews online, I decided to give it a try. I managed to suffer through about 3 episodes before I gave up. It baffles me that it's classified as a science fiction show and not a straight drama, since the sci-fi aspect seems to be basically non-existent. As far as I'm concerned, the only list that this show should ever been on is Starbuck for "Worst Character Ever". I have never had such an instant and overwhelming hatred of a character, before or since. I might have possibly tried to stick it out a bit longer if the rest of the characters had shoved her out of an airlock. The Wire - Again, everyone I know loves it, so I figured I would as well. Tried it twice, didn't make it through the first episode, and thought it was boring and hard to follow. I don't generally need the premise of a show force fed to me, nor do I need an extensive explanation of who all the characters are, but I couldn't follow what was going on and had no idea who anyone was. I'm sure it's a decent show, but I don't think I have the patience for it. How To Get Away With Murder - After the absolute trainwreck of a s**tshow that Scandal has become, I had no interest at all in anything Shonda Rhimes is even remotely involved with, but one of the promos got me curious. I think I got through about 2-3 episodes and realized that I hated every single character, didn't care about any part of the plot, and spent most of my time rolling my eyes. Modern Family - People suggested it, so I watched the first episode. I didn't think it was funny, but it did remind me of comedies that are in their 5th season or so, when all of the characters have become caricatures of who they used to be (the wacky one, the overly serious one, the bumbling but lovable idiot, etc). Parenthood - I gave it a try since I like most of the adult cast, but stopped watching a couple of episodes in because the kids were annoying. My dislike of "lovable moppets" isn't really the fault of the show, I guess, since it would be difficult to have a show about parents without kids.

I attended a rural school that had the elementary and high school buildings connected by the cafeteria, with K-6 in one building and 7-12 in the other. It's been awhile since I was in high school, but I think grades 7-12 had lunch at the same time, since we were all in the same building and taking classes from the same teachers.

I'm in my mid-30s and I love the music, even though I guess it's not my generation's music. My parents dictated the music played, so it was country music, all the time. When I was about 8, they got me a radio for my room and all I listened to was the only rock station that would come in and they played stuff from the 60s and 70s. I like a variety of music, but my favorite genres would probably be classic rock/heavy metal and 90s alt rock, so I think that access to music is more of an influence on your tastes than anything else. Oh, and on the Sweet Caroline and Don't Stop Believin' bar singalong songs, it's definitely not just an east coast thing. I live in the midwest and, in my early 20s, was a regular at two country bars. Well, club is probably a more accurate description, since one place had a mechanical bull and the other had an indoor bull riding arena. Every Friday around 11:30, they'd stop the music and 5-6 local bull riders would compete. Anyway, the clientele at these places ranged from the kid that just turned 18 to the 65 year old newly single retiree and everyone in between. Both of those singalong songs (plus Friends in Low Places) were definite staples and at least two of them were played every time I was there. I don't know if everyone knew the lyrics, but you can't help but pick them up once you're surrounded by 200 people all screaming basically the same thing.

I think it's crappy that Daphne got off scot free and is getting to live her life without any repercussions for her actions, but I don't have any sympathy for Bay and her situation. Confessing to a felony isn't the same as getting in trouble in school; it doesn't go away after you finish house arrest and community service and it will make your life more difficult. Until a couple of years ago, Bay wouldn't have been able to work in a bar or restaurant in KC, because she has a felony record. As much as Bay complains about how much it sucks that she's on house arrest and has to do community service, I feel like she really doesn't understand how serious this is. She lied to save Daphne, she lied to the woman from the Artist Showcase, and she regularly lies to her probation officer. She tells the women from the Artist Showcase that she's a good person, but a good person wouldn't have tried to conceal the ankle monitor and wouldn't have lied to the woman's face about a gap year and charity work. Bay might not have actually done the crime, but to the world she did and is acting like she's above it and can lie to get what she wants.

I live in KC and have attended UMKC, so how I view episodes is colored by that, although I am trying to watch the show knowing that it's just a show. In the last episode, Daphne was wanting to take "Chem 1", yet in this episode, the board shows that this is "Chem 303, Fundamentals of Chemistry for Majors". I get that it's possible for both Josh and Daphne to have taken chem classes for credit in high school, but Chem 303 is a junior level class. I had thought that maybe the professor just hadn't wiped the board, but the office hours she mentioned matched up with the hours written on the board, so I'm going to assume that the class is actually Chem 303. Gallaudet offers a chem major, so I'm assuming that there are already established signs for various terms, so why are Daphne and Josh having to make up their own? And the professor complaining about her attire? Never would have happened. I've taken classes from intro to grad level, at both community colleges and universities, and not a single professor said a word about attire. What they would complain about would be coming late and letting the door slam. I had one professor who hated tardiness so much that you would be better off just skipping class if you arrived after the door was shut. I actually don't know why Bay and Emmett aren't enrolled at the Kansas City Art Institute. It's odd to me that a show that has done a decent job of highlighting that KC is not actually a small town would immediately ship the artists off to LA. KC has a pretty decent and solid arts scene and it would be much more likely for Emmett, as a deaf filmmaker, to get national recognition if he started here than in LA, since there's more of a chance of him being overshadowed. And Bay will have a better chance of displaying her art, or getting to do "legal" street art, in KC since she's a local artist. I know Kansas City isn't LA, NYC, Chicago, or Austin, but it actually isn't "midwestern conservative cowtown". I think the show has done a decent job of avoiding the stereotypes until now. That said, I do understand Emmett wanting to leave, as I'm actually a KC transplant from a smaller area. I get wanting to move, but for the purposes of the show, I hope it's not permanent.

I was a transfer student a couple of years ago and all transfer students and first semester freshman were required to see an academic advisor before they could register for classes, so that part didn't bother me. This wasn't something you could do in the first couple of weeks or something, you're locked out of the online registration system until you see an advisor and they remove the account hold. I didn't get the scene with Daphne trying to register for classes. The scene seems to show her going to the registrars office instead of the advising office, so the woman should have sent her away. There would be a dedicated person in advising for the deaf program and they would have taken care of registering her for all her classes, except the waitlisted chem class. I was really annoyed by the scene with the chem professor, though. First, has the woman never heard of hair dye? Second, the minute she found out Daphne was deaf and only had the add form, she would have made her come to office hours with the proper paperwork. Also, there's no way in the world that professor would have insisted that Daphne get such a specific interpreter. Like others have said, it's an intro class, not upper level. I get that it would be hard to understand some of the technical words with lip reading, and that finger spelling would take too long, but most professors now teach from PDF outlines, especially in huge intro classes like that. ETA: I forgot to ask this, but didn't Emmett already do a romantic "billboard" timeline for Bay?

I'm doing a rewatch and completely forgot about TOW all the jealously, where Ross acts like a lunatic about Rachel's co-worker Mark. Who on earth calls their significant other at work and responds "Ross of Ross and Rachel" when asked who they are? I really liked Ross in the early seasons and felt they totally destroyed his character by the end of the series, but I guess I didn't realize how quickly it started. I honestly believe that the Ross we were introduced to in the first two seasons would have acted like the complete lunatic he ended up being later on.

I will never stop buying physical books, but I've found that I used my Paperwhite much more now. I do probably 80% of my reading before bed and it was becoming more and more difficult for me to read in bed. I could never get comfortable and was having to close my book in order to switch positions every 10 pages or so, which is very annoying and disrupts the flow of a book. That said, I have hundreds of books and one of my goals this year it to read more of them, so I might look around for a comfortable reading chair instead of trying to read on the couch.

Oh, I've seen plenty of signs warning about large animals; I was just wondering why there needed to be signs for red squirrels in particular. However, your post did answer my question, since I didn't realize that they weren't common throughout the area, so it would make sense that there would be signs posted in their specific habitat.

I'm watching old episodes of Top Gear and they did a thing about road signs, two of which warned about red squirrels. I've gathered that they're endangered, but I don't get the point of the signs. What exactly are you supposed to do if one runs out in front of your car, besides the obvious thing of trying to avoid hitting it? Do you get fined if you hit one? (I'm also obviously assuming the signs are actually real and not made up. If they are, disregard.)

I'm doing a rewatch and am watching the ones with Joey Lucas and I'm curious; what does an interpreter do when there he/she isn't interpreting? Dumb question, I know, but was he also her assistant? Or was he also a political pollster that just happened to be degreed/certified in ALS? I don't think we ever found out much about him, but how does it work in the real world?

I'm hoping that Stevie crashing with friends means limited screen time for her, but I hate all mouthy, know-it-all teens on tv. If Stevie wants to be more than a hostess, then she either needs to stop whining and go back to school or accept the fact that nepotism is going to be the fastest way for her to do something else. Win is an ass of the highest degree for giving Matt pot without his consent. I'm for the legalization of pot, but last I checked, it's against the law to drug someone and that's exactly what he did. I wish they had focused more on Nadine and the embassy worker, because that was much more interesting than the love triangle nonsense.

Now that Gunnar's baby momma has ditched the kid, I bet she dies and Gunnar finds out at the funeral that he's not the father. He'll fight the father for custody, lose, leading to lots of manpain inspiration for more songs. That or she'll decide she wants the kid back, he'll say no, and she'll accuse him of kidnapping her kid. That entire plotline already has be rolling my eyes, so they might as well go full on into soap opera territory with it.

Rayna has been in the business decades, so she should know better than to not set some ground rules for the RS reporter. And even though she's tried to keep the kids out of the spotlight, there's no way Rayna wouldn't have talked with them about reporters and negative publicity. We're seriously supposed to believe that nothing negative has ever been said about Rayna that Maddie's classmates haven't asked her about?

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I still can't quite believe that the Royals are going to the World Series. Everyone I know was just happy that we made it to the postseason and no one dared talk about the WS, so the fact we swept is just nuts.

This is such a small nitpick, but I'm watching the Yale-Harvard game episode and I'm wondering why Emily didn't have an extra Yale sweatshirt stashed in that giant bus for Lorelai, considering we've been told repeatedly that she likes to be overly prepared for things. Not to mention, why the rush to get to the restroom before the lines got too long, since a vehicle that size would have a restroom.

Michael: George Michael, I'm sure Egg is a very nice person, I just don't want you spending all your money getting her all glittered up for Easter. Also, in the same episode, I loved the payoff to the rock, paper, scissors gag. Narrator: "Gob charged at Michael with the scissors, but Michael, as he always did, picked rock, which beat scissors. Unfortunately, the whole incident was covered by the paper." I feel like I could do this for every episode.

aradia22, I so agree with most of what you said. I really wanted to like Covert Affairs because it seems to be rare to have a female character being the focus of an action show now. I liked her in Coyote Ugly, so I had high hopes, but I got bored with her character constantly acting like an idiot, but things still working out for her time and time again. I adore Christopher Gorham and actually had high hopes for their relationship, but they seemed to take great care to screw that up and I was done at that point. I guess I had hoped for it to be Alias, but with "Sydney" being aware of her involvement. I have no interest in watching a terrible spy surviving from week to week. I mean, I'm a regular person and I am easily sneakier than Annie has ever been.