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I am sick of the "well-meaning" friends/relatives (such as Rebecca's pal) feeling the need and obligation to ask the "tough questions"; i.e. grilling the poor new-to-America fiancé when they are tired, disoriented and-- well, when it's not that person's business to begin with. I was cringing at Rebecca saying to her friend, "well, what do you think?" -showing Zied off like he was a cattle at auction. Her sobbing at the "ex" discussion (No. One. Cares.) was so stupid and fake. And I want to know how someone can have their entire body festooned with tattoos but doesn't have a bed frame or a couch to sit on.

she had the necklace on. Their beds were all strewn with petals. Oddly, some of the beds had sunflowers on them. I always think, "what a way to ruin the bedspread and carpet."

*sigh* This is all starting to become tiresome. SCRIPT: Obese Person (OP): My name is --. I am fat and it's so hard to be fat. (insert film of bathing/eating massive quantities/sad family members waiting on OP/sadder living arrangements). I have to get help from Dr. Now; it's the only chance I have or I won't live much longer. SCENE: tortuous car ride to Houston; lots of grunting and groaning, OP stating "I'm so nervous and I'm starving." DR NOW (DN): so, you weigh xx pounds. Tell me about your eating habit. Who buys your food? Why you aren't helping yourself if you know you need to lose da weight? OP: I am willing to do anything it takes to save my life. DN: here is a 1200 calorie diet, no carbs, 3 meals a day 400 calories a meal. You need to lose xzzpounds in 2 munt. In the meantime, you call if you need anything *2 MONTHS LATER* (after another painful journey to Houston) OP: I'm working so hard to do what I need to lose the weight so I can be approved for weight loss surgery. I slip up sometimes, but I am working really hard. I should be down to xx minus zz pounds. DN: you only lost yy pounds. why you aren't doing what I told you to? OP: I am, I really am... it's so hard... (cry cry) DN: I'll give you two more months to lose another zz pounds minus a few because we're setting the bar lower. LAST 7 MINUTES OF THE SHOW (by this time we all know it didn't work and the person is back at home with their sad animals and sad family members, all sitting on the couch eating fast food and staring blankly at the walls) OP: I really did work hard but Dr. Now didn't appreciate all my hard work. But I feel so much better now that I have gotten down to 520 pounds. I guess the program just wasn't right for me. I'll do this on my own.

Let's add "leap of faith," and "COMPLETE stranger" (is there a partial stranger category?) to that list. And be sure to pronounce it "Shtranger."

Agree with the general consensus here that Chris is horrible. Absolutely, positively, undeniably horrible. My observations of him and why he is: his face is set in a permanent scowl when talking to Paige, except when he makes a comment like "that's dope" or some other ridiculous phrase. He most definitely has no interest in what she is saying and the entire conversation and view in his mind is about HIM; how it affects HIM; how HE is going to proceed, etc. He commented, "I don't know if I will have sex with her or not..." and "she is what I need but not what I want," as if he is deciding on which (luxury) car he wants to buy or where to rent an apartment. He totally objectifies her, and has done so with all women in his life. Easy to see why: look at Dad, of the giant oversized suit, overbearing domineering attitude and King of His Castle approach to marriage. His concerns were how HE looked, that he'd better be attracted to her or "I don't know what I'll do." Her part in any of it was inconsequential. Total turnoff. TOTAL. Also when he was describing his profession: "I am an entrepeneur and owner of a premier franchise" or whatever- what kind of bullshit is that? I would have immediately asked "what is the name of your franchise?" I know a lot of people think Erik seems to be the catch of the season, but I find him completely unattractive in a number of ways. Every time someone makes a joke, he massively overreacts (giant smile, big fake laugh) as if he's constantly trying to fit in or be accepted. He also has this sort of hunched-over look that to me comes across as cowering or feeling inferior, which is superficial but noticeable and unappealing. His hyperenthusiasm extends to his approach to Virginia: "she's great; she's beautiful; we have a great vibe; we're hitting it off so well!!!!" Simmer down, Buddy. First of all, she's been shit-faced drunk since the bachelorette party the night before and she is just waaay to extra to be real. I'm not sure why producers want to portray Clara in the same way they did with Christina last season: nit-picky, self-centered, complaining. Obviously there is careful editing going on to present her as the high-maintenance kind of girl; I think Ryan seems like a decent guy and I'm hoping they can make it work. Haley seems like someone I'd like... again with the editing and the "always a bridesmaid" title- hopefully that doesn't translate into a portrayal of a desperate bride. She's already side-eyeing Jake because, well... he's awkward. Again, producers trying to hyper-play the "nerd, weirdo" role with the man-cave house, beach, diet-- but again, those are truly his habits/traits and I wouldn't be interested. They both seem to have the attitude of "this is me and I won't change for nobody," which could lead to issues down the road.

I have a different take on it. I think the driving force of "The Farm" and its significance is Betty's. In the scenario I imagine, Ron- twice divorced and getting older, meets up with Betty, never-married and also getting older (maybe they worked together. I see this with doctors frequently). He is lonely, she is willing, and they get married. Betty is an "animal person," and has never had children, and strikes a deal with Ron, who has some money... she wants a "farm" where she can live out her hobby and love for animals, and she will keep him company even though he hasn't been able to hang on to a couple of wives before him- possibly for obvious reasons (domineering, etc). He indulges her; she has her farm and then -surprisingly- becomes pregnant with her one and only child, whom she indulges endlessly and on whom she hinges all of her love and hopes (in part because her husband isn't all that likable). Her dream is to pass on her "farm" to her one and only smothered little man-boy, and the best way to keep him close and ensure that her beloved "farm" is kept up as she ages, she gives him a free place to stay and his own room with a plaque with his name on the door. Brandon can't say no to his mom (although we can see by his rather blank expression when she cries that she's used this manipulative tactic over and over again throughout his life) so he capitulates. He doesn't really want to move away. You can see it in his face. He's torn between two lovers- Mom and Julia. He is unable to say "I'm an adult and want to make a life with my fiancée"- that could kill Mama. Instead he blames Julia and says "it's the animals." It's not the animals. It's the work, the high expectations, the constant overseeing, the rules as if they are children. He will never be able to point that out to his parents; this has been their dance forever and it's not going to change.

Oh, I had hopes for Melissa in the first half or so. She is articulate, she is cooperative, she follows the rules. Dr. Now didn't give her enough credit- at least she DID lose and didn't gain like so many others we have seen. In addition, she has a very neat apartment, doesn't flash her (blurred out) naked private parts, didn't show us a shower scene, and is actually kind to her friends. So I knew how it would end when the timer was running down to less than 20 minutes and she was still futzing around, not wanting to move to Houston and attributing her lack of commitment to needing "support" in Florida. I get that your BFF is there, but come on. It's a small chunk of your life to get the surgery and really start to improve. She had the oddest gait I think I've ever seen in a massively obese person. She leaned way, way back as all of her weight seemed front-loaded. And she sort of loped from side to side. It was hard to appreciate that she was less than 5 feet tall; there didn't seem to be any comparison between her and other average-height people. Did anyone think that the scenes in Dr. Now's exam room seemed like they were spliced together? They never showed the two of them in the same shot; she had her head turned way to the side like she wasn't really looking at him. When they showed his face but her talking, her lines seemed stilted and scripted. Maybe with Covid they re-enacted them? I'm thinking that it was more entertaining than showing the two of them with masks on. Her little baby voice with the boyfriend... ick. He would compliment her and she would answer two octaves above her usual voice: "awwwww!"

I can't understand the comment (basic script) we so frequently hear: "I've been working so hard..." doing what?? Not eating? So many of these people literally sit and stare into space; it's really sad. She was especially flat and lacking emotion. The scene where she says she asked Sandy what she could do to help out: I thought I heard her say "I offered to paint her house." I did an actual double take. She painted her nails... sort of. Close up of her getting polish all over Sandy's finger. Cindy set herself up for failure again and again. Not only did she blame others- but she blamed them ahead of time. "If I can't do what Dr. Now expects, I don't think I can go on." "I know what I should be doing but I need more time; therefore I won't be able to do it." I was really annoyed when Sandy was trying to walk her and she was snapping at her for everything: the oxygen tubing was caught, etc. She's not someone I would enjoy spending an afternoon with, much less moving her into my living room.

Julia is cooperating, although not to their exact specifications. She is shown feeding animals, slopping around the farm. I think no matter how she does it, it won't be good enough for Ma and Pa.

I chuckle at the obvious camera-lingering that goes on: Rebecca's big hips from behind swinging through the empty apartment in her mom-jeans. the sad looking grocery cart in the apartment, Zied making his little Elvis-like point in his hair. Others include the pantry-like shelf of protein powder in Brandon's room, Jovi very intentionally getting out of the cab without helping Yara, Mike practically rolling his eyes at Natalie's insults with his totally indifferent body language, Tarik's giant necklace, and various dirty closets, laundry-strewn bedrooms and forlorn, empty refrigerators. The camera crew must laugh and laugh at the end of the day. I thought Zied looked better with his shorter hair but he has still stuck to the too-tight sweaters and odd-fitting joggers for his uniform. And what's the deal with his teeth? They just look like a giant white bar across his mouth. Rebecca stopped her emotional development at the age of 15. Every little thing rattles her: "Zied looks sad; I'm so worried. He should be so excited to see me... something must be wrong! He misses his mother already- I'm so upset!" And the whole thing about the daughter and SIL coming to the airport... BIG DEAL. "I wanted to be alone with Zied but we spent the WHOLE TIME with them." She's like the teenager who wants to make out with her boyfriend on the couch and Mom and Dad keep walking through and spoiling the mood.

The scene with Natalie and Mike got more and more cringe-worthy as it progressed. She has no interest in learning why a "stir-fry" isn't unhealthy, just as she didn't care that "root beer" is non-alcoholic. She is a control freak and is so stupid (despite her "110 IQ") that she doesn't realize that you don't take a simple country guy who likes steak and beer and mold him into whatever her ideal is - and even if he were more the citified health nut she idolizes, I'm sure there would be something she would find fault with and pick apart. The whole "You're drunk; don't touch me; we don't respect each other" thing was ridiculous. His entire face is reading, "I don't give a flying f*% what she says." I'm surprised he isn't booking her a one-way flight to Ukraine and planning an exciting trip to the city- only to drop her at the curb at SEA-TAC and say, "see ya." I hope that Sequim has a bunch of down-to-earth young women looking him up right now. Brandon is a pansy-assed wimp who just gives a slack-jawed stare when Mommy and Daddy scold him. That father is scary, and I would love to know his history (I think Betty is wife #3? Hmm, wonder why...) When he asked Brandon "do you want all of this???" and Brandon just stared, that showed what their entire relationship is like. They hang over his head the fact that he will inherit "the farm"- which I view as a large lot with a rundown ranch house on it, a few outbuildings, a lot of worthless junk and a ball and chain when he wants to go anywhere. He (at the young age of 27) has resigned himself to the fact that it's his destiny to live in the sticks forever and wants Julia (who has been most cooperative and accepting) to accept it too. When he blamed her for keeping him from doing AM chores I was glaring at my TV. I wasn't buying Amira's tears and faux-breakdown over detainment. It all seemed shady from the beginning and if he really tried to guilt her into it and she had reservations (about the plan and the relationship) then she should've listened to her instincts. She and Andrew are both idiots. There wasn't much Tarik/Hazel this week but is anyone annoyed by his exaggerated pantomimes when he talks? "That was YESTERDAY..." (flings his hands over to the right) "but NOW"... (dramatic pause) "this is TODAY" (flings his hands to the left). Hazel is all about picking a girlfriend to explore her sexuality. And he's so helpful! "Here, there are black women, brown women, Latina women...."

Whitney is full to the brim of sh&^%$. She can stop right now with the innocent doe-eyed stare and baby voice saying "Jen, I was just telling you as your friend" while her eyes show no emotion and she almost has a smirky look on her face (ok, it could be the botox overload). She stirred up the whole thing at the (stupid) golf/hip hop party (these shows all have a theme: everything must have a theme- it's never just "I'm having a get together for my husband's birthday," but rather "let's dress up in costumes, see who can get drunkest, humiliate someone, and end it with a fight!") Whitney was on her face drunk at that party, and after doing her obligatory stripper routine and piling on the "liquid courage," she incited a lot of crap amongst the women. I mean, maybe bring up the comment that Mary said (ummm.... Jen hates Mary, so is there really any validity to the comment at all? Oh right- Mary doesn't lie!) in private or something but good lord so much was made out of that.

Carrie had some redeeming qualities: she seemed clean, wore shoes, had a job, was not wallowing in self-pity and treated her family decently. I feel for the daughter- at 18 she has the same body type and is rapidly approaching Mom's size. A whole-family health overhaul would have been a good twist. I'm getting a little tired of the same format - right down to the same lines! "I hope I can get down to where I need so I can have weight loss surgery." "I need to get back on track." "I've worked so hard and I'm really proud of myself." "It's been xxx months since my weight loss surgery and in order to meet my goal I should be at yyy." That trailer, though. Dear me. I think their mini van was worth more than that sad thing. And note how the cameraman zoomed in on the iron-stained bathtub/shower. In the end she still looked really, really big. No real conclusion here though. Carrie did well; Carrie has a lot more to lose; soon Carrie may qualify for skin removal surgery. We need a fresh approach to this series.

From what I have read (and I have a sister who had WLS) they are required to lose prior to surgery. I think the reason is twofold: first, to acclimate the patient to the idea of restricting their intake and following a prescribed diet (my sister had to do a liquid diet for a few weeks); and second, to gauge the patient's motivation for not only just having the procedure, but for being willing to adhere to a strict eating regimen in the long-haul. How many of these people say "I have no options left! I need Dr. Now to do the surgery to save my life!" as if it's all on him and they don't have to do a bloody thing. Along similar lines, I get annoyed when they are eagerly awaiting a weigh-in, sure that they lost the 80 pounds (or whatever) that Dr. Now said they had to (and we have seen scenes of "slipping up now and then," usually consisting of meals large enough to feed a small army, eaten in giant bites with their tongues hanging out) and proclaiming "I'm sure I'll be under 680 pounds today; I have worked so hard the past month!" So we know that these people are delusional, and have similar habits to alcoholics or drug addicts- they really have no idea how transparently they behave and how the world knows they are lying through their teeth. I watched this on demand and as the time was running out, I was wondering if she ended up dying in the end. Lugging around literally a half-ton as she does, requiring oxygen, experiencing chest pains.... she is on borrowed time.

I knew someone who came here for a medical residency from India, and couldn't understand why he didn't have public transportation from his apartment in the suburbs into the city for work. I was surprised he didn't look into that before choosing his apartment. He was truly puzzled about the suburbs- despite the fact that he had a brother who had come a few years before and was also living in a suburb of a large city. Yeah, I don't get how people like Mike, Tarik and to some extent Jovi don't prepare for the "loves of their lives" to come- get some new clean towels, stock the cabinets with their favorite tea, clean up the laundry on the floor.

If all Brooks has to dwell on is his bruised feelings about Dad not showing up for his "fashion show.." he needs to go back to college. I was fascinated by Meredith's talking heads (blue dress) where she is wearing a witness-protection type wig and her giant boobs over that itty-bitty waist made her look like an anime figure or someone's bad instagram alteration. And her left upper lip seems stuck down so she always has a very lopsided look to her mouth. Too much botox, perhaps? Speaking of, Whitney got her lips blown up since last episode (a visit to Heather's spa, probably) and her chest is giant. Does she have to tell us on every episode how she wants to get laid, dance in a provocative way, or wear a dress that plunges literally to her navel? She's trying too hard. Jen acted more on the normal side tonight while entertaining at her "chalet." The whole hot tub scene just seemed fake and forced to me. Meredith: "Seth and I are putting in the work and are really committed to make the marriage work." I think I've read that in every women's magazine article in the past two decades. Such boring dialogue. Whitney is a gossip and is showing her age and immaturity in trying to get information about Meredith and her supposed boyfriend.

She isn't a doctor; she owns some medi-spa type businesses. A lot of them are franchises. People can get trained to give botox, fillers, etc. A lot of people who work in those places are not physicians- they could be cosmetologists, aestheticians, etc. It's an all-cash business and I'm sure she does quite well. I am so sick of the "baby, baby, baby" stuff on this show. Yes, it's a minor pet peeve but between Mike and Rebecca they have to call their love interests "baby" every other word. Stop already. The scene with Brandon and his parents laughing uproariously at the bowl of condoms on the bed... really?? And no mom- it's not "a parent's responsibility" when your "child" is approaching 30 and engaged. Maybe get the poor fiancée out of your 80's sewing room and tell them to get an apartment. Dinwiddie is not NYC; Brandon has a full time job and certainly could afford a modest apartment for him and his sexually needy girlfriend. Anyone notice the change in Natalie's boots between when she stomped out of the car at the gas station and was standing at the pumps? Poor editing, TLC. She went from knee-high to ankle boots in a flash.

but this is the essence of the way the writers are presenting this- not unlike Breaking Bad. You start out with a sympathetic character/characters (Michael, Adam/Walter White) who are basically decent people (Michael is a caring judge as exemplified by his making allowances for the lawyer with prostate cancer; Walter who is sick and wants to be sure his family is provided for in the event of his death)- and the character arc is that we start changing our views of the character. Michael is now doing unsavory things to protect his son- he lies, he covers up, and ultimately he is responsible for the destruction of others' lives. Walter White did the same- he got caught up in the underworld of the drug industry and through time became a cold, heartless criminal who sacrificed others (including his family) to keep his head above water. In a similar (opposite) arc, Jesse Pinkman was the ne'er-do-well, dropout loser who ended up with a conscience. I think it's subtle but brilliant writing. I think the entire goal here was to get us to sympathize- early on- only to then feel very conflicted when we see the lengths Michael goes to in order to protect his son. I agree with others that there are obvious holes and unbelievable parts to the story. I was shaking my head when Adam returned to the scene of the accident to find remnants of evidence there, blood on the curb, etc.

Is anyone else confused?

This isn’t a HIPAA issue. The girlfriend isnt the doctor’s patient so the doc isn’t violating her privacy; seemed they were only talking in generic terms and the doctor may have said, “she can make an appointment to come and see me.” That is, if the conversation really happened at all. Who can call and directly get a doctor on the line, much less one who wants to chat for free about a random person?

EXACTLY. I think I have tried to express this many times in this forum. There are a lot of comments such as, "Why don't they just get married and to hell with Sumit's parents?" or "why are they asking the family permission to get married? They should just do what they want?" Those comments aren't much different (or enlightened) than Brittany saying "I am going to keep flashing my skin on Instagram because that's ME and I'll do what I want!" or Nicole begging Azan to kiss her in the street when he tells her that his culture forbids it, whining "I need some affection!" Cultural expectations and norms are important in places like India and the Middle East moreso than here in the USA. I can't say it's better or worse; often I feel we neglect our extended families too much here. But at any rate, respect for the other person's culture, family and upbringing seem to be neglected a lot in this series.

They kept saying the same things over and over. In brief: "I don't want to go;" "I worry you will cheat on me;" "I don't know if I can trust you;" and at least four times: "This sucks." Please put us all out of the misery that is watching you two joyless people and break it off.

I'm not sure how you are inferring this. To mention that they were "relieved" or "glad" regarding the baby's skin tone is conjecture: they were seeing the baby for the first time and had emotion on their faces: joy? relief that he is healthy? a release of tension after a long flight? How could we possibly know unless one of them said, "thank god your skin is light"? I think Ari's parents are exhausted by her. Mom doesn't want to let go and has been her safety net for so long. Judging by their age and bits and pieces of what I have read, my impression is that Dad met Mom (a nurse) on the job when they were married to other people; Ari is their later-in-life mutual child and they are both just too tired to cope with so they humor her and give her money because otherwise, she has learned, she will complain and whine until she gets her way. Mom looks well into her 60s and I wouldn't be surprised if Dad is in his 70s. He looks over all of it. Mom's comment at the airport: "If you get that feeling like you are not happy, let Daddy and me know and we will help you." Parents are not there to take away your pain, bail you out of difficult times or help you avoid difficult situations. Regarding Sumit's parents: I think it is hard for Americans to understand, and many are saying "he's a grown adult; he needs to just man up and marry Jenny and his parents need to let him do what he wants." But culture isn't easily rebuffed, and despite the fact that I think Sumit is an immature man-boy who can't seem to figure out responsible adult life, he won't easily do his own thing and say heck with Mom and Dad when it is so ingrained in him that parental approval is huge. Sure, we can all say that his parents don't have a right to feel ashamed and embarrassed at his marrying someone older than them, but cultural norms run very deep. India is much more intergenerational than the US is; he traditionally would be expected to care for his parents in their old age, raise grandchildren to carry on the family line, etc. Won't happen with Jenny. I'm not sure I understand their willingness to bankroll his divorce, however; from what I understand a marriage (esp an arranged one) is more of a business arrangement than a loving partnership, and I'm surprised they didn't tell him he had to tough out his marriage. I don't doubt that Brittany's tears were authentic on the mountaintop, but I think they were more for herself than Yazan. ("Shit, I look like an idiot chasing after this guy who might get himself killed on my watch," "damn, this could impact my number of followers on Instagram.")

I had to laugh when Shawn said "I think Kelly's just jealous that I'm finally happy and in love..." all with a look on his face like he could easily jump in front of an oncoming train or fling himself off a tall building. If FlipperTeeth is happy, I'll eat my hat. I don't think I've ever seen the guy smile. And Destiny needs to drop the "Tough Inmate" persona. It may work to threaten anyone who tries to steal what's "yours"-she's gone from her fellow prisoners taking her candy bars to a mother of 6 (?) "taking her man" when he is responsible for that soccer team's worth of children- but here in the real world acting like that gets you beat up or laughed at. I sensed a huge relief when Jessica's dad gleefully relinquished responsibility for his ditzy daughter to Maurice. He seemed to be happy that she is now someone else's problem. I am a little tired of the parents of the people on this show telling them they "deserve so much better." Shavel's mother pours on the empathy while her daughter moans about giving up years of her life, how her daughter "calls him Daddy," etc. These people need a reality check. Similarly, people like Destiny who boast "I'm gonna do what I want. I DESERVE to have fun, take your money, etc." If it's one thing I've learned in this life, is that no one should feel they deserve anything. Work for your goals, don't rely on anyone else to take care of you, and don't feel you are exempt from hardship. I wonder who Heather paid to take her photos for that "shoot." She is not model material. Wonder what she did with all of her Dylan tattoos in various languages. She identifies him as her "abuser" on IG but I'm not sure how much time he had to abuse her. He was too busy defending himself from her during that exciting 48 hours. Lindsey is as shady as they come, and her mom knows it. Thankfully Mom is watching closely so that Miley can come back as soon as things go south. I marvel at Christianna's voice. I mean, how does it get to that point? What do we think she sounded like as a little girl? Her mom has the same voice. I think the crying was a little protracted and they all seemed to act as if she is a total victim. I understand that addiction is an illness, but she has not had the wherewithal to hold it together more than a couple of days- numerous times. She's probably better off in prison. I did feel a little sympathy for her mother, though. With a hopeless daughter (maybe 2?), seemingly very ill and probably just totally exhausted, she seemed pitiful.

"Baby" is apparently his nickname and she said that the first episode. Ari is one of those who I can't stand: her approach is: "this is how you behave. IF YOU DON'T ACT the way I want you to, I am telling you in advance I WILL BE MAD." It's disrespectful to work on the evening her parents arrive. It's disrespectful for him to communicate with other people. It's disrespectful and uncaring of him not to be with her when she is alone all day, but his efforts to provider her with company make her angry. But he needs to provide for the family, so he'd better make some money. She is exhausting. I think she is relatively attractive in the filmed segments, but looks off and rather crazy in her talking heads- maybe it's the darkly drawn in brows or the intense pink lipstick. Brittany is playing "American immature girlfriend mind games" with Yazan and I am so frustrated listening/watching it because she's obviously confusing the hell out of him with the language barrier and the generally vague expectations she has of him (which are totally in an American context; not at all in keeping with his culture.) He has no clue that he should "be right," or "step up to the plate and stand up to his family," or whatever nonsense she thinks she deserves. Hell, I don't even know what egregious wrongs he has committed. But there she is, expecting him to toss out his culture and upbringing and embrace a "strong independent woman" (blecch) which apparently means, in her mind, a woman who can toss back booze in public, flaunt her "curvy attractive body" in the market, backtalk a stranger, skip the culturally expected hijab, etc etc. I appreciate her friend's relatively reasonable attitude, but I was getting a headache hearing "liiiiike...." and "buiiitttttttt" over and over. Jenny, Jenny. I know you told us you are in better shape than Sumit's parents, but we really didn't need to be seeing you in your little negligee in the apartment, celebrating your "freedom breakfast." It's really funny that they are giddy about being "free," yet they have no money, don't have the blessing of Sumit's family, and are only at the "promise ring" stage. While Tim and Melitza (?) bore me to tears, I can say at least his mother was cordial and we didn't have to watch her make horrified faces at the environs or criticize the food. I really see no future in this relationship because all they talk about is their "struggles" and infidelities and that's nothing to build a future on. She is cold, obviously bored, and loves carrying his testicles in her purse. The dramatic fights are all that holds these two together.