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I am so relieved! Thanks for sharing the updates.

When does taping start so I know when I can be put out of my misery and know if I will be subjected to far too much time with Britt or if I will luck out and it turns out to be Kaitlyn?

So, on her twitter account she keeps asking other people for ideas on finding a Minecraft cake. This is the person that claims to be all things crafty and also buys cakes on a regular basis. She has even asked Baskin Robbins on her twitter account if they could make a cake. Really? You can't call and ask? What?

Yes, they appear rather clinical in their interactions. And I know you can interpret body language in many ways, but watching the finale it was like he was so smitten and had that "fallen" look when with Becca--especially in the last few interactions. And then with Whitney he just stares at her and watches her talk to him. Someone had said maybe she talks so much because he doesn't say anything, and they really could be right. Maybe she does that anyway, but it doesn't help when someone just looks at you oddly. That said, I am not sure why she came away from this thinking she knows him so well as it is clear he hardly spoke to her--she did most of the talking. They definitely look like friends that ran the Amazing Race together or something like that versus a couple getting married.

I so agree with the above (Becca's emotion)...too funny! Though realistic about not being in love she really was emotionless--she really didn't mind not being chosen which says a lot. To get that far and just be like-- "thanks for being honest with me!" pretty much tells Chris all he needed to know. Jade and Kaitlyn had so many more emotions for him--heck even Britt pretended to :-) At times I am not convinced about him and Whitney, and then other times I do think he cares for her. I used to think she was talking so much to interview for her role as his wife, but I am starting to think that is just one of those things she does....she can't quite shut up :-) So I think she means what she says but comes across a little sales pitchy by nature. I don't think it comes at a surprise how much I hate the new twist. I can't stand Britt and I could tell Kaitlyn is having such a hard time pretending to be on board with this. Think of it--it would be hard with the girls she liked, but for it to be attention craving Britt is like anyone's worst nightmare to have to share the B'ette role with.

I am bummed to hear this. I find Britt pretty pathetic and not very self aware, so to have her as a lead would not be a good thing in my eyes.

I do feel that if he had no idea about the other piece he would sound more convincing when discussing the issue. He really doesn't do much to stand up for his side of the story. Most people that did not copy would be more convincing and clearly state.... I have never seen that piece of furniture with some sort of insistence--not just oh, I might have seen it and not realized it. At first I felt bad for him until I saw how close the designs were, and that was not just copying some coffee table or chair...that is a pretty close design copy down to the small details. This show really did kind of suck.... Ellen added nothing, and they ended it on such a strange note. I don't think HGTV will bring it back as they only show the same 4 or 5 shows on the network anyway--when they take a chance to add one they only add ones they feel comfortable showing every day of the week.

I agree with much of what has been said. I just really hated all of the time with Britt....she is a joke. I hated that she said what she did to Chris about Carly--seriously, girl, you made yourself look dumb, as by saying that to Chris you are insinuating that he can't have a thought for himself and is so easily swayed by some random woman that said something to him. I am so glad he spoke up to say that he had doubts and it wasn't Carly or the other girls that made his decision for him. As for Kelsey, I felt like she keeps wanting to talk about honoring her story, but yet had the ability to make those catty remarks about it being an amazing story as if it was all fun and games (during the show). I don't see how it is right for her to be angry at others for not being sympathetic when she can't even respect her own story in the proper way. I know she says she regrets it, but the fact that she had the ability to even say what she did during the show tells it all. Plus, I agree with Ashley when she said--why would you ask for Chris during a panic attack--the last person I want to see is the person I like.

I don't think anyone is "worried" about Derek's influence. Very much annoyed yes. And it is hard to ignore Derek because Derek and the show will not make it easy for anyone to ignore Derek. We can't forget as stated above it has become a big game of Derek's or someone to make a big to-do about how he is retiring or not coming back, and then oh look-- he came back! What a shocker!

Just chiming in with total frustration that they lied about Derek yet again. Of course he is back, and of course he has the lean, fit athlete who will be just great. Lovely. The other pros must hate him at times, seriously.

Yes, this show has turned odd. Not that it wasn't before, but I no longer really care about anyone. I kind of liked Whitney and Becca previously, but I don't think either one of them are that into him. I have to agree with other posters before me in other threads that have said Whitney appears to be interviewing for a job. I think Becca is trying too hard--she wants it to work but she isn't nearly ready for this. I think that alone should have made Chris keep Kaitlyn versus Becca, even though that relationship wouldn't have worked out either. I think this is also a case of Chris wanting everyone to put themselves out there while he hasn't done that at all. They hardly know him. He kisses, and that is about it. He thinks that is putting himself out there. I think Kaitlyn is the only one I could handle as the Bachelorette. I could not stand to hear about Becca and her virginity for several weeks, and I just think she isn't mature enough to handle a show of her own. I would be even more disappointed in Britt. I just find her fake, and she would annoy me to no end.

Ashley and JP do seem to put themselves out there in random news outlets.... like I saw an update on them on the CBS news website of all places. But they are a cute couple so I don't mind knowing how they are doing :-) I would rather hear about them then Jason and Molly. I know that some people claim that Trista and Ryan are famewhores, but I think they do a pretty good job of staying out of the limelight. Most of the time. Considering they are the first successful couple, they are fairly quiet. Des and Chris take note--the less famewhoring, the better your relationship will stay :-)

That is beautiful...thanks for sharing!

Des' gown is pretty, and she looked beautiful and happy. Her and Chris are gorgeous together. They really should be glad they were allowed a wedding without ABC interference--I am sure it was more meaningful that way anyway. I don't understand however why they like to parade any couple they can, including Jason and Molly, but they never mention a successful bachelorette couple like Des and Chris? So weird.

This confuses me. I don't see how Farrah's family translates to these types roam free in Iowa. I don't know anyone like that in Iowa....not that I know everyone by any means, but I would never associate Farrah's crazy family as representing Iowans. Far from it actually--most people I know are really down to earth, nice people. As for Farrah--I was so disappointed to find out they decided to have her on after all. She is so depressing, and her family is just as bad. I actually like Farrah more than her mom, so that is scary in itself. The others seem to be doing okay, but I am not sure any of them needed to return to tv.

Oh yes, the Katie couch was awful...so ugly. I was very disappointed in her in this round...how she thought that was great is beyond me. I felt bad for Carly as her couch was kind of cool, and just because it didn't work in the lounge, it was a better piece than some of the others.

Just fyi that I said Cedar Falls, not Cedar Rapids. Cedar Rapids is a separate city farther south. Anyway, just didn't want to be misquoted. Back to the topic, though I said and agree all of these cities have more to do than Arlington, I also agree that day to day life in Arlington would be boring. Though I am from small town Iowa, my small town was more what these girls hoped for. Large enough to have some people, quaint, has some nice businesses and restaurants. They probably would have actually enjoyed it a bit, and might have had the small possibility for employment :-)

Not to be petty, but Waterloo has 60000 some people, not 10000. Plus it is connected to Cedar Falls which is a college town and has Univ of Northern Iowa, a state college. So, I get what you are saying, but travelling to Waterloo/Cedar Falls isn't like going to a small town of 10000. The point being, you will not go to these towns every day, but they do provide an escape. During the week, you live your life, do your work, etc, and then on the weekends, and occasionally in the evenings you might go do something more interesting in the larger cities.

This part annoyed me too. They chose the farthest city, and though I know they chose Des Moines because it is larger, they could have at least mentioned the closer by cities like Dubuque, Waterloo, and Cedar Rapids. There is plenty of business and things to do in those areas. Granted if you lived in Arlington you couldn't go every day, but it isn't as far as Des Moines. I grew up about 3 hours from Des Moines, and we rarely went there so I don't think the show fairly represented what someone from Arlington would do.

I like Barry and Lainey also. I am a little confused that the parents have never met given that Lainey has been best friends with the sister for a long time (sorry...completely blanking on her name!). Not that they would get together, but that they would have exchanged pleasantries here and there.

Well, the good news is that she is leaving the US, and Paris can have her. Lucky them! The father obviously doesn't understand that Kelsey made her own bed, and whatever he says is not going to change viewers' minds.

kira28--this is exactly why I think it is short sighted for the bach/ette to be so obvious about being into one person during the process. Because if it doesn't work out, how do you sell to the other bach/ettes that you are "in love" with them? I get that Chris likes Britt, but as you said if/when he chooses someone else later they have to watch this all play out, and how sad is that? Plus I think sometimes they feel the chemistry with someone but even they know they aren't completely certain until they have more time with at least a few people to get to know them better and decide what might work better long term.

Although I have been griping about Ellen not coming on her own show, now that she has, it just seemed odd. She makes an appearance as if, oh look, I decided to put some effort into this show with my name on it! I am not sure she added a whole lot, but oh well. I liked most of the tables, even the cow one. The legs weren't great, but at least she had a concept and she went with it. I am glad she wasn't asked to leave mainly because she has shown a lot of promise with her other pieces. The other girl was so odd how she worked so hard on her table, and then said--oh yeah, I picked out these chairs! They don't go together. That was the whole point and how can you plan your table without considering the chair you chose. I also thought that Tim wasn't all that bright to not think that the chair he chose would influence what they design. He acted all surprised by that...I think most people could see that coming from a mile away.

She was awful....that would totally suck. Please no.

Chris, you suck as the Bachelor. I just had to say that. It should be so obvious to him about how to treat women respectfully. He has many women in his family that he would never want treated like that. The fact that he has no gentleman qualities to know that it is completely inappropriate to be kissing someone in front of everyone else on a group date, the fact that he leaves all of his dates behind while he runs off with another (they are all on the date together after all) for over an hour, the way he comes back in holding her hand and she has a rose noone even knew existed, the list goes on. I agree with others that say despite what production set up, he has some choices. We have seen choices play out more than once on this show, and it is clear he is a big wimp with no common sense. I honestly feel sorry for whoever ends up with him. And this is coming from someone that thought he would be a good Bachelor. He is giving Iowa a bad name, and it makes me sad. As for Kelsey, after seeing the last 2 episodes it is so annoying to read what she and her sister have to say about her experience. Seriously, Kelsey, you have the edit you do because you did those things. I don't care if you did them in a different order or some things are a little out of context. You had enough crazy behavior to make it clear you are crazy.