Season 21 Live Feed Discussion

[Cutty]

Via, Reddit: more pictures of Tommy and Christie pregame. Again, great work by the casting department. 

[Ellee]

@peachmangosteen  I said warm showers too because who could take 10 to 15 cold showers in a day?   

Maybe that’s another superpower Jackson has.  I don’t know. 

[tinkerbell]

10 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

Once Camp Comeback was finished, the show began doing "Haves" and "Have Nots" again. It's this bit where the HOH gets to pick a certain number of HGs to be "Have Nots" that can only eat slop and condiments and have to sleep in an uncomfortable room and can't have hot showers. 

I have only heard of the "have nots" on the live feed threads, this season and on the few previous seasons I've watched.  It might be mentioned in the episodes, but very little is said about the issue.  I suspect that many episode watchers have no idea about the rules for have-nots.  

[zorak]

29 minutes ago, Ellee said:

@peachmangosteen  I said warm showers too because who could take 10 to 15 cold showers in a day?   

Maybe that’s another superpower Jackson has.  I don’t know. 

Well he has repeatedly talked about how amazing he is and prior to being a Have Not how he welcomed the slop, cold showers, etc. because he's so tough that that kind of stuff doesn't faze him at all.  And since Holly hasn't been giving in to his sex demands, maybe he's curbing his desires with cold showers.  I haven't been paying too much attention to his showering habits but maybe we should start a shower watch to see just how many times a day he is showering and how many of those times include him ducking down suspiciously so he can presumably sneak food without the camera seeing.

[Melina22]

1 hour ago, xKHANx said:

His eating is probably due to an extremely high metabolism. 

That's a definite possibility, and I agree with you that there are people like that. I often see huge muscular guys on Survivor who are almost passing out from the lack of food while others manage okay. 

What's different about Jackson is that he says he used to be really heavy, which makes me think he has food issues he got under control with great effort, and the BB pressure cooker environment, with little to do but sit around and stress eat, is triggering him. 

[MrHufflepuff]

I think this is the first season where the suspicious activity in the shower is eating food rather than.... *ahem*

[Melina22]

48 minutes ago, Cutty said:

Via, Reddit: more pictures of Tommy and Christie pregame. Again, great work by the casting department. 

Wow. I thought they were just vaguely acquainted through his relative. I didn't realize they knew each other that well. Weird. 

[Brian Cronin]

1 hour ago, Cutty said:

Via, Reddit: more pictures of Tommy and Christie pregame. Again, great work by the casting department. 

What are they doing with those blue vests on the bottom left?

[Dmarie019]

They're locked inside. Looks like it's a good chance for endurance this week.

[IndyMischa]

1 hour ago, Cutty said:

Via, Reddit: more pictures of Tommy and Christie pregame. Again, great work by the casting department. 

That relationship aged her by 20 years. Ouch.

32 minutes ago, Melina22 said:

That's a definite possibility, and I agree with you that there are people like that. I often see huge muscular guys on Survivor who are almost passing out from the lack of food while others manage okay. 

What's different about Jackson is that he says he used to be really heavy, which makes me think he has food issues he got under control with great effort, and the BB pressure cooker environment, with little to do but sit around and stress eat, is triggering him. 

I think so too, and despite his odiousness on other topics, I have sympathy for him on this. This is the same production team that included a "who can gain the most weight from massively, abnormally, horrendously overeating in xx time frame?" comp, when one of the hamsters was a bulemic in active relapse. So, let us say, their track record is less than stellar.

[Melina22]

9 minutes ago, IndyMischa said:

This is the same production team that included a "who can gain the most weight from massively, abnormally... 

Sorry. The quote function drives me crazy! It's impossible to get the part I want. 

But what comp was this? It doesn't ring a bell for me. 

[IndyMischa]

6 minutes ago, Melina22 said:

Sorry. The quote function drives me crazy! It's impossible to get the part I want. 

But what comp was this? It doesn't ring a bell for me. 

It's from BB15 and Gina Marie was the hamster - I think it was a Have Not comp, just to add extra Food Issues!! to the hot mess. "Gorge yourself, or you get to eat nothing tasty for a week!" They took turns eating as much ice cream as possible, actually gulping it from a soft serve machine. The last lovely "twist" was that some of the flavors were disgusting on purpose.

[xKHANx]

1 hour ago, tinkerbell said:

I have only heard of the "have nots" on the live feed threads, this season and on the few previous seasons I've watched.  It might be mentioned in the episodes, but very little is said about the issue.  I suspect that many episode watchers have no idea about the rules for have-nots.  

They should bring back the Food comps from the early days. Or at least the Have Not Comp. Letting the HoH pick the have nots is boring.

14 minutes ago, Melina22 said:

Sorry. The quote function drives me crazy! It's impossible to get the part I want. 

But what comp was this? It doesn't ring a bell for me. 

Check any season before I think, 15 or 16? 

During the Food Comps, the HGs used to compete for different food items and then they moved to Have Not competitions.  Have nots used to only get PB&J. But it was around season 13 or 14 they moved to slop? 

3 minutes ago, IndyMischa said:

It's from BB15 and Gina Marie was the hamster - I think it was a Have Not comp, just to add extra Food Issues!! to the hot mess. "Gorge yourself, or you get to eat nothing tasty for a week!" They took turns eating as much ice cream as possible, actually gulping it from a soft serve machine. The last lovely "twist" was that some of the flavors were disgusting on purpose.

Yeah, Habanero ice cream, lol

I also remember Janelle being in one food comp where cake or something was coming out on a conveyer and she was faking eating it. Same thing, whomever gained the most weight won.

Edited July 23, 2019 by xKHANx

[IndyMischa]

2 minutes ago, xKHANx said:

Have nots used to only get PB&J. But it was around season 13 or 14 they moved to slop? 

I think it was All Stars - I vaguely remember BB2 Nicole guest-judging a slop cooking food comp. "Slopfredo," "Slop Waffles," etc. I have no idea why my brain stores this ludicrous info.

[zorak]

They've all been sitting around the table talking about past winners.  Analyse said it seems to her that there's always someone who is a great player who makes it to the end and then ends up in the final 2 with someone who really hasn't done much and the person who hasn't done much ends up winning.  So maybe that's her strategy.  On the other hand, she said she would never vote at the end for someone who didn't really do anything in the game. 

[Dmarie019]

they're talking about slop. Tommy said he really didn't expect it to be as bad as it is. He (like a lot of people) thought it would be like eating oatmeal all week. 

[zorak]

Christie just told Analyse that she wants a girl to win the next HOH but she doesn't want to win herself.  She says she doesn't want to have to nominate anyone.  Of course she doesn't want to do that, she'd have to get some blood on her hands.

[zorak]

Bella:  "Oh great.  There's an ant on me."  Yesssss!  Maybe the ants really are going to caravan right into these people's pants like I was hoping for.

[Alice Mudgarden]

22 minutes ago, IndyMischa said:

I think it was All Stars - I vaguely remember BB2 Nicole guest-judging a slop cooking food comp. "Slopfredo," "Slop Waffles," etc. I have no idea why my brain stores this ludicrous info.

The thing I always remember from this challenge was when she got to the dish that Will worked on and she read the name and immediately knew "Will named this". Always gives me a chuckle.

[Dmarie019]

Kat says Bella should go on the the Challenge after this. Kat's never seen it but she's heard stuff from Cliff. 

[Dmarie019]

Keep bonding with Kat, Bella!

[Dmarie019]

didn't kat and jess get if a tiff the other day? They're BFF's now.  Kat says she misses Jess now that she's in the have not room.

[iMonrey]

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I also find it hard to believe that he can get away with blatantly breaking the rules which brings it back to the age old question ‘why even bother to have Have Nots if they are not going to enforce it?

Or show it on TV? Clearly the producers no longer consider the whole Have-Not thing relevant enough to include it in the TV broadcast so why are they still doing it? Why did they stop having competitions for it? Is it because they have such tightly formatted scripts they don't want to spend a lot of energy on an extra competition? 

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Via, Reddit: more pictures of Tommy and Christie pregame. Again, great work by the casting department. 

That doesn't even look like her.

[Dmarie019]

Jess and Kat are trying to make people think that Kat is sleeping in her regular bed and see how gets pissed off that she's not napping in the have not room.

Are they allowed to nap this year? I don't watch feeds much but I feel like we haven't seen anyone nap.

[zorak]

The hair extensions and hat that Kat and Jess put in the RV room to make people think she's in the bed.

[Melina22]

56 minutes ago, IndyMischa said:

They took turns eating as much ice cream as possible, actually gulping it from a soft serve machine. The last lovely "twist" was that some of the flavors were disgusting 

Yes! Thank you. Now I vividly remember GM eating gallons of ice cream straight from the nozzle. It was... disturbing. 

[Dance4Life]

I was thinking that Jackson wants his ‘own’ thing. I think he is messing around with food to get attention.

This is all I got from that cucumber bit.  Fame whoring!!!!

He gets on my fcking nerves.  

I have always being attracted to older guys so kids like Jackson always used to get on my nerves.  And, there were plenty.

I think the ‘eating’ is partly a poverty issue.  I don’t think he has ever been around that much food before.....and, for free!  Why he eats it without regards to others.

I thought his thing was to eat watermelons......but, oh, man! Chicken and steaks...Seasonings.....and, Dairy!  So, much dairy!

He may also be lactose intolerant.  His gassiness is NOT normal.  He literally clears the room every single day.

He has to be the most obnoxious HG this season.  Very inconsiderate dude!

Last night Christy told Jessica....that....Jackson and Holly ‘broke up.’ 

Christy was also talking shit about Holly. And, she wants to get Jackson out. 

[IndyMischa]

17 minutes ago, Dmarie019 said:

Kat says Bella should go on the the Challenge after this. Kat's never seen it but she's heard stuff from Cliff. 

What on earth is Cliff telling Kat about it?? That show is a combination of athletic skill (VERY required), puzzle skill (required), and social/political skill (not required, but damn helpful to get you through early eps, particularly if you're not stellar at both of the first two). Bella has crapTASTIC social skills, and while we haven't seen much to judge her on wrt athletic and puzzle skills, I'm not holding my breath. That is just utterly bizarre. Of course, it's Kat, so maybe she's fuzzy-brained from smelling her hair dye too much today.

[Dance4Life]

9 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

Or show it on TV? Clearly the producers no longer consider the whole Have-Not thing relevant enough to include it in the TV broadcast so why are they still doing it? Why did they stop having competitions for it? Is it because they have such tightly formatted scripts they don't want to spend a lot of energy on an extra competition? 

That doesn't even look like her.

Christy was obese.  She has photos online.  I think her face was prettier before, too.   But, looks better with the weight loss.

I was shocked when it said Christy  was 26!  She looks 36 and sounds 50!

[Dmarie019]

2 minutes ago, IndyMischa said:

What on earth is Cliff telling Kat about it?? That show is a combination of athletic skill (VERY required), puzzle skill (required), and social/political skill (not required, but damn helpful to get you through early eps, particularly if you're not stellar at both of the first two). Bella has crapTASTIC social skills, and while we haven't seen much to judge her on wrt athletic and puzzle skills, I'm not holding my breath. That is just utterly bizarre. Of course, it's Kat, so maybe she's fuzzy-brained from smelling her hair dye too much today.

From the little that kat said, it seemed like Cliff implied it was a bitchy version of big brother. Bella could be nasty during the competitions if she wanted to. 

2 minutes ago, Dance4Life said:

Christy was obese.  She has photos online.  I think her face was prettier before, too.   But, looks better with the weight loss.

I was shocked when it said Christy  was 26!  She looks 36 and sounds 50!

errrrrr what????? She looks almost 40. 

[Dmarie019]

ohhh they can't nap! Sam just got yelled at by BB

[Ellee]

21 minutes ago, Dmarie019 said:

ohhh they can't nap! Sam just got yelled at by BB

Wait ... my guy got yelled at?  🙄

Meanwhile Dick...wad is eating and taking a kazillion showers a day and Bigger Dick..wad gets to say and do whatever he wants to.

It's a travesty!  A travesty I tell you.

🙄😁😁😁

[IndyMischa]

30 minutes ago, Dmarie019 said:

From the little that kat said, it seemed like Cliff implied it was a bitchy version of big brother. Bella could be nasty during the competitions if she wanted to. 

The mind boggles.

[Dmarie019]

now jackson is telling Bella that she can go crash at his apartment when she leaves on thursday

[Dmarie019]

Kat is talking to her (ex) boyfriend? and How they were suppose to get engaged, the ring was already in process

[zorak]

 A bunch of them were in the kitchen and they started talking about how 3 of the 4 who are on slop have bleeding assholes.  Then Tommy looked up and just screamed at the top of his lungs to the BB gods "We're bleeding out of our assholes!"  I hate Tommy, but I laughed.

[Auntie Velvet]

4 hours ago, phlebas said:

I did say "unless his kids were friends with astronauts' kids"

I can't imagine interpreting his statement to mean that they were civilians hit by falling debris. A couple of the Columbia astronauts had kids and were living in the Houston area at the time of their death. 

[Dmarie019]

20 minutes ago, zorak said:

 A bunch of them were in the kitchen and they started talking about how 3 of the 4 who are on slop have bleeding assholes.  Then Tommy looked up and just screamed at the top of his lungs to the BB gods "We're bleeding out of our assholes!"  I hate Tommy, but I laughed.

It was pretty funny

Kat and Nicole are cleaning Cliff's room (it was pretty messy)

[Dmarie019]

Bella is telling Nick her plan to campaign

Nick is pretending he's reading the bible when they think someone is around

ok this is weird. Nick is reading bible versions and in between Bella is telling him stuff - if anyone can hear them it has to sound super unnatural. 

Sam is talking to Jess.... 

Sam says he will never burn Christie - Jess says she won't either.  They trust her 

Edited July 23, 2019 by Dmarie019

[Dmarie019]

Sam - we just need to be super friendly with the majority

[Dance4Life]

Ok, so y’all know how hard I ride Jessica about not supporting Nicole. 

Well, yesterday she was having a chat with Christy.

Christy was venting at how she is not close to Holly. 

How Kat and Holly are closer.

Then Jessica started venting about her friendship with Nicole.

This is what Jessica said.

Nicole is very wishy washy in her game talk. 

Jessica said this is why she didn’t support her along the way.

First, Nicole turned on her during the Camp Director stint.

Then when Jess was on the Block with Kemi.  

Nicole was campaigning to keep Kemi in the house.

All while not being honest about it with Jessica.

Christy agreed that her game play is unreliable and she cannot trust Nicole.

I guess this makes sense.

I will leave Jess alone about this now! 🤣

[Dmarie019]

Kat is STILL cleaning the HOH room. now she's got all Cliff's clothes out of the storage area and is folding everything and putting it back. I think Cliff finally walked in on her but must be ok with it because he left and she's still going.

[RockYou]

1 hour ago, zorak said:

 A bunch of them were in the kitchen and they started talking about how 3 of the 4 who are on slop have bleeding assholes.  Then Tommy looked up and just screamed at the top of his lungs to the BB gods "We're bleeding out of our assholes!"  I hate Tommy, but I laughed.

Everyone might be but Jackhole!!! Sick of the unfairness and yet it’s okay with the HGs

[zorak]

I truly don't understand why Cliff continues to talk game in front of Kat.  More than one person has told him that Kat is not with him.

[Nashville]

4 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

I have only heard of the "have nots" on the live feed threads, this season and on the few previous seasons I've watched.  It might be mentioned in the episodes, but very little is said about the issue.  I suspect that many episode watchers have no idea about the rules for have-nots.  

It used to be a big deal throughout the season, but the significance of being a HN has faded in recent years - partly because it’s become commonplace over time for HoHs to call for volunteers, and for HGs to actually do so.

[Mystery]

3 hours ago, Dmarie019 said:

they're talking about slop. Tommy said he really didn't expect it to be as bad as it is. He (like a lot of people) thought it would be like eating oatmeal all week. 

That's how I always pictured it, too. Is it not like that? I've been reading along, and I don't think I know what it is. 

I've decided that Cliff is playing not to lose, rather than playing to win. It's hard to know what I'd do. (Kidding. If I'd made the mistake of applying and being accepted, I'd already be playing to get out of that hell hole.)

[Nashville]

11 minutes ago, Mystery said:

That's how I always pictured it, too. Is it not like that? I've been reading along, and I don't think I know what it is. 

Not... exactly.  Most people’s “normal” perception of oatmeal as a breakfast food is that of rolled oats (think Quaker Oats), but that’s not the kind of oats in slop - slop is based on steel-cut oats, not rolled, which are different from rolled in terms of innate flavor (less), texture (rougher), and fiber content (more).  Basically slop has almost no flavor except what you add to it, it goes down rough, and it comes out pretty much the same way - which is to say, ouch.  😳😬

Edited July 23, 2019 by Nashville

[zorak]

And of course Kat is now conveying to Christie what was talked about with Cliff, Kat, Jess, and Nicole in the HOH room.  Christie just asked, "Should I trust Cliff?"  At least Kat said yes.

[peachmangosteen]

4 hours ago, Dmarie019 said:

They're locked inside. Looks like it's a good chance for endurance this week.

Julie said at the end of last's live ep that this week's HOH would be endurance.

2 hours ago, Dmarie019 said:

Are they allowed to nap this year? I don't watch feeds much but I feel like we haven't seen anyone nap.

No, they're not. I think it started last season or maybe the one before. They can't sleep between 10 am and 10 pm, I believe.

1 hour ago, Dmarie019 said:

Sam says he will never burn Christie - Jess says she won't either.  They trust her 

Fucking hell. Christie is Tyler but way more entertaining. But still, even though she is providing really the only true entertainment this season, she needs to go. All these idiots are up her ass.

1 hour ago, Dmarie019 said:

Sam - we just need to be super friendly with the majority

This motherfucker. I can't wait until he's evicted next week lol.

Cliff/Kat/Nicole/Jessica just made an alliance. It's called Cliff's Angels. Everyone feel free to barf. 

Now Kat and Christie are talking. Kat ran right to her after she formed the alliance. I don't think she told her about it. Yet lol. Anyway, Christie again said she wouldn't tell anyone anything Kate tells her and swore on her sister. And she is currently crying again.

[zorak]

Christie PMS update:  She just said she's 8 days late.