S07.E24: Sean

[auntjess]

I've set the episode with extras to record, which I usually skip.  I think it's tonight.

[ProTourist]

52 minutes ago, auntjess said:

I've set the episode with extras to record, which I usually skip.  I think it's tonight.

Sean's supersized episode should be tomorrow (Thursday) night. Tonight we have a new episode, follow-up for Liz and the mother/daughter team of Jennifer and Marissa. 😀

Thanks for recording Sean's supersize, Auntjess -- would appreciate knowing any additional tidbits on his story. ❤️

[sagittarius sue]

3 hours ago, ProTourist said:

Thanks for recording Sean's supersize, Auntjess -- would appreciate knowing any additional tidbits on his story. ❤️

Yes, it's extra effort to catch the tidbits because you have to actually watch it, instead of just listening for any announcements of bonus video.

[Wanda]

In a bonus scene Sean actually admits his mother didn’t teach him to be able to take care of himself or do anything😡

[IKnit4Cats]

On 6/12/2019 at 10:33 PM, ProTourist said:

I think depressed people tend to do that.

I knew how Sean's story ended, but I still kept finding myself talking to him through the TV. Mostly just exasperated outbursts of, "Sean!" when he argued with Dr. Now or talked about figuring out a plan.

At one point he said he had friends who would order food for him so that he wouldn't be choosing junk food, but in the next moment he said he didn't have anyone to help him. I wonder who had agreed to order his food. He seemed so lonely, and really Dr. Now and Dr. Paradise couldn't do anything to change that for him.

I'm sure in a place the size of Houston he could have found (or started) a crochet group (or the knitters would have welcomed him). If he just could have gotten out and about, maybe it could have been a different story.

His supersized episode was just on on with Dr. Now's final phone call. I know others said the grandfather didn't seem emotional, but I thought he sounded as though he was on the verge of tears. Maybe I'm projecting.

[crazycatlady58]

54 minutes ago, IKnit4Cats said:

I knew how Sean's story ended, but I still kept finding myself talking to him through the TV. Mostly just exasperated outbursts of, "Sean!" when he argued with Dr. Now or talked about figuring out a plan.

At one point he said he had friends who would order food for him so that he wouldn't be choosing junk food, but in the next moment he said he didn't have anyone to help him. I wonder who had agreed to order his food. He seemed so lonely, and really Dr. Now and Dr. Paradise couldn't do anything to change that for him.

I'm sure in a place the size of Houston he could have found (or started) a crochet group (or the knitters would have welcomed him). If he just could have gotten out and about, maybe it could have been a different story.

His supersized episode was just on on with Dr. Now's final phone call. I know others said the grandfather didn't seem emotional, but I thought he sounded as though he was on the verge of tears. Maybe I'm projecting.

It sounds mean but I hope he was on the verge of tears, someone should be sad he died. The saddest thing would be to die and have no one miss you.

[Drogo]

On 6/17/2019 at 4:59 AM, ProTourist said:

I'm feeling that it's about time to let go of Sean and let him rest in peace. 

There are many more Seans out there.  

On 6/14/2019 at 6:57 PM, essexjan said:

I noticed in the scene when he was drinking the cola and eating sausage, and behind him, to his right (screen left) was a gallon jug almost filled with a yellow liquid. I don't think it was pineapple juice ...

Looked like:

[ProTourist]

3 hours ago, Wanda said:

In a bonus scene Sean actually admits his mother didn’t teach him to be able to take care of himself or do anything😡

Thanks for that tidbit, Wanda. Although we know Sean didn't know how to do things like cooking and cleaning, shopping and errands, he must have been taught personal care by someone if not by his mother. He did go to school until twelfth grade, so he must have known the proper ways to shower, shampoo, brush teeth, dress himself, get haircuts, etc. But it was like after his ankle injury and his decision to drop out of society and stay at home in bed with just his mother around, he 'forgot' how to do all those things.

In rehab when they were teaching Sean how to shower properly, he actually asked the attendants if he should put more soap on the sponge. They said 'yes' so he did so, but then he rinsed the soap off of the sponge before washing and so was scrubbing himself with just plain water. It was like he was failing on purpose, but why, only Sean would have known.

[ProTourist]

2 hours ago, IKnit4Cats said:

At one point he said he had friends who would order food for him so that he wouldn't be choosing junk food, but in the next moment he said he didn't have anyone to help him. I wonder who had agreed to order his food. He seemed so lonely, and really Dr. Now and Dr. Paradise couldn't do anything to change that for him.

Sean was friendly with a neighbor in one of the apartment complexes where he lived in Houston, a woman named Ashley who has posted about Sean on FB. She might have been one of them. She said too that there was a church group that used to check in on him from time to time, so perhaps someone from that group would have pitched in.

I can't help thinking that Sean must have had opportunities to be more actively involved with others, but that his depression kept him isolated. I'm sure Dr. Now and Dr. Paradise could have put him in touch with support groups, which may have had monthly meetings, and he could have got involved with something at church, even if just attending Sunday services and perhaps a social hour afterward. But his depression sapped his energy, and he ended up spending money he could have used for clothing and taxi fares, on mass quantities of food, which then further disabled him. So instead of climbing out bit by bit, he was circling the drain until he finally went down. Damn.

[ProTourist]

Ready for a bit of levity?

I read on another message board that some people think Sean's voice sounded much like Winnie the Pooh.

Oh, brilliant!

Perhaps they could have done their stoutness exercises together:

[Showthyme]

Sean was trying to recreate what he had with his mother by having people do very basic things for him. He acted like a child with his mannerisms and the way that he spoke to people. People did try to teach and help him. He wanted someone to provide care. No adult really gets that.

[Twopper]

So sad.   Dr Now's goal was to get him down to a near normal weight, but Sean had no goal beyond that.  He needed occupational therapy, and he needed someone who could help him with short term, intermediate,and long term goals instead of the ridiculous reward board his mother made.  

Instead of the little blue pop up boxes there were 3 bonus scenes instead of the usual 2. 

1.  He is wearing clothes and opens the door for the pizza delivery.  He talks about being alone and that it has been 2 years since his mother died, and he still has her ashes.   It is obvious that he needed so much help to change his life.

2. Very boring--- he is leaving hospital to go to PT facility.  He can at least walk over to the stretcher and sit down on it.

3. His PCA has gone to the store and returns with lots of white plastic bags which she says contain mainly protein items.  She leaves the bags on the counter or floor for him.  Exit PCA.

I watched this in about 25 minutes using FF to get past what was on originally.

The usual pop-up comments would have been awkward at best.  I think there were a couple of very perfunctory ones ----e.g.  Sean has overcome many obstacles

[TVbitch]

Poor Sean had severe arrested development and was depressed and disassociated from his body and his life. I have been through similar, and when you are like that you can get to a point where you don't care if people see your body naked or smelly or with food stains. It's like it's not you. Add meds onto that and the poor guy was just barely treading water. He must have recorded that voice over shortly before he died. His voice seemd to get very weak right at the end when he talked about being afraid to die. 

I would like to think Dr. Now is aware of all the public assistance programs that are available and reaches out to them when it is appropriate. He seemed to know he was Sean's last life-line. When he went to visit Sean in the rehab and Sean was doing a tiny bit better, Dr. Now must have said how proud he was of him about 20 times. It was extra for Dr. Now, and I could tell he was trying his hardest to reach Sean and stir some kind of positive emotion. But Sean was even dead-faced when getting praised. 

[sagittarius sue]

1 hour ago, TVbitch said:

But Sean was even dead-faced when getting praised. 

I noticed the same thing when he was weighed before leaving the hospital a few months earlier.  He had lost considerable weight, but there were no smiles or joy in him.

[ProTourist]

On 6/21/2019 at 5:57 PM, Twopper said:

So sad.   Dr Now's goal was to get him down to a near normal weight, but Sean had no goal beyond that.  He needed occupational therapy, and he needed someone who could help him with short term, intermediate,and long term goals instead of the ridiculous reward board his mother made.  

Instead of the little blue pop up boxes there were 3 bonus scenes instead of the usual 2. 

1.  He is wearing clothes and opens the door for the pizza delivery.  He talks about being alone and that it has been 2 years since his mother died, and he still has her ashes.   It is obvious that he needed so much help to change his life.

2. Very boring--- he is leaving hospital to go to PT facility.  He can at least walk over to the stretcher and sit down on it.

3. His PCA has gone to the store and returns with lots of white plastic bags which she says contain mainly protein items.  She leaves the bags on the counter or floor for him.  Exit PCA.

I watched this in about 25 minutes using FF to get past what was on originally.

The usual pop-up comments would have been awkward at best.  I think there were a couple of very perfunctory ones ----e.g.  Sean has overcome many obstacles

Thanks for this info on the bonus scenes, Twopper. Sounds like they did not reveal too much, other than the fact his mother's remains had been cremated. I've wondered a bit on the disposition of Sean's own remains. I doubt that any of his family in California would have paid to have them shipped back there, but since his mother had been cremated, probably he was too. If no one wanted their ashes, they may have been dispersed over water. [That's how I'm going to end up myself.]

[Carboncat]

On ‎6‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 8:57 PM, Drogo said:

There are many more Seans out there.  

Looked like:

Yeah, I caught that too... but I kinda doubt it was diet tea.  I also spied 2-liter bottles of pop at head-level on the sofa cushions.  Made me apprehensive about the "I'm sticking to the diet" VO.

[aliya]

On 6/23/2019 at 8:55 AM, ProTourist said:

 I've wondered a bit on the disposition of Sean's own remains. 

Sean is already in Findagrave, but there's no burial information. Kinda negates the purpose of 'find a grave,' but OK...

[PaTatertots]

YT TV is weird and is just now popping up WATN episodes for me! I had of course hunted down snippets but hadn't seen the full episode yet. 

 Ugh, I had so many thoughts and emotions watching this episode. Annoyance, pity, sadness, anger. Over and over and over! Seeing Sean just sitting there in his kitchen doing "a better job" of cleaning himself over a sink full of dishes had me in tears. Ugly tears. Alone in that apartment with a water line across his stove and junk all over the place while chomping on some sausage? Uglier tears. His crochet hooks on the floor and a yarn bag in his wheelchair made me smile a little, as a crocheter and knitter, I usually carry a project with me and have been known to lose a hook under the couch. But then he'd answer the door for a pizza in a sheet and I'd go back to feeling frustrated.

 I noticed he was obviously annoyed with staff when they'd speak to him.  Rolling his eyes at Dr. Now, and looking up all flustered at the lady who popped up in the doorway when he was leaving one of the facilities like she had just interrupted him for the fifth time that day. I kept saying "They're all trying to help you! Help them help you!"  But, I already knew how it ended.  

 This episode also made me think back to his past check ins. Like when Dr. Paradise pointed out that Sean got "too hot" and started undressing when they talked about Dr. Now. It made me wonder if his state of continuous undress was more of a "stay away" thing? Maybe he thought if he started taking off clothes, nobody's going to wanna see that and they'll just leave me alone to do what I want. He had clothes, he just chose not to wear them around people. Camera crew? A sheet will do. Drs. Now and P wont leave me alone, so I'll just stay in my sheet until they do. Just something that always stuck in my mind. I'm all for just chillin' nekkid in your own house if that's what you wanna do, but even James K had a couple of hospital gowns on to sit up that time. 

 

 He missed his mom, she'd done everything "from head to toe" for years. But he was just so unwilling to actually fully do anything. He wanted to be somewhere forever that would give him mom's care. He really and truly needed intense counseling and even more intense life skills teaching. 

 

It makes me so sad to think that he was only four months older than me. If something or someone had made that lightbulb click, he could've lived a good life. 

 

[Jeeves]

Oh, gosh. I saw there's a new post here so had to read it. 

Thinking about Sean's tragic life stirs up my emotions, too. Whatever her intentions, IMO his mother well and truly infantilized him so completely that he could not function in this world after she died. This was a kid who'd gone to school and I think participated in activities, maybe even sports, until he hurt his ankle or foot when in high school (or middle school?). I mean, he may have had his own emotional issues but he was functioning in the world.

But after that injury, his mother saw to it that he was house-bound and then bed-bound forever after. And whatever social development he'd experienced, apparently stopped and he even regressed. I don't know what kind of strong personality Sean would have needed, to resist his mother's smothering "care" after his injury and their journey down that awful road they traveled. To where he was bedbound in a huge body and tended to every minute of the day by his mother. 

It's just so sick and sad and infuriating. I hope Sean's in a much better place now.

[Ralphster]

I've thought a lot about Sean. He's a fascinating case study of how severe emotional abuse can damage a person's psyche. I don't know if the abuse he suffered was surmountable or not; he needed intensive in-patient psychiatric care to even have a chance at moving past where he was, that's for sure. And as such all the resources he gobbled were utterly squandered on him. It's like shit or get off the pot; either really help him by having him admitted and giving him serious therapy multiple times a week while people help take care of him, because he clearly could not take care of himself, or let him do his own thing and use those resources on someone who could be helped by them. It wasn't necessarily that Sean couldn't be helped, but that he couldn't be helped by Dr. Now's "program." He was too far gone. Enmeshment and lack of boundaries created someone who was a danger to himself and others. When he was feeling cornered at various facilities, the look in his eyes was wild and unfocused, and I could totally see him trying to hurt someone who attempted to make him do something he didn't want to do. He needed far more than Dr. Paradise encouraging him to wear clothes - surely that's a sign that someone is severely mentally ill, if you need to teach him the importance of clothing, for clothing is as basic as it gets. He needed far more than Dr. Now haranguing him about his weight; Sean didn't care about his weight. His weight was a symptom, not the primary problem. Of course by the end there it became a looming threat to his health and ultimately killed him, but for a while it took a back seat to Sean's impressive mental problems. Dr. Now should have had a psych eval done on Sean, as others have suggested, rather than the halfhearted therapy he did provide. Why didn't Dr. Now call adult protective services? Why didn't he see that repeating the same thing over and over had zero effect on Sean but drained the county of money and resources? Sean never even learned to be fully human; I wouldn't be surprised if he was that guy who smelled all the time in high school because he felt bathing was unnecessary. He was animalistic and feral and it is surprising that Dr. Now did not pick up on this right away. Even just watching at home, the beginning scene where Sean is being bathed and his crazy-ass mother headbutts her way into his fat folds - and leaves her head there longer than it needed to be - you could sense that Sean was a whole new level of crazy. As he was under Dr. Now's care, I feel that Dr. Now is responsible somewhat for failing to get him the help he really needed. But that's another aspect of Sean's case: At what point do you admit that you need to provide more help than you already are? At what point do you admit that nothing you are doing is helping and step back in order to allow an adult to make his own choices? He wasn't hurting anyone else, just himself, when he was left alone to eat. I bet the local Papa Johns loved Sean.

Edited July 28, 2020 by Ralphster

[mamadrama]

I know I'm resurrecting an old thread here, but I just did a Sean marathon and rewatched all of his episodes again and I have thoughts...

I've seen several people say that "someone" should've intervened and had him taken from his mom. I think this is a common misunderstanding of the system. I was a crisis intervention specialist for several years. It's incredibly difficult to remove a child from the home. Despite what Hollywood shows, CPS workers are not standing by and waiting to snatch kids away. Kids only get removed in extreme cases and, even then, it's a VERY low number. Sean was housed, clothed, and fed. He presumably had a bed to sleep in and his hygiene was being seen to. He was feeding himself, his mother was not sending stuff through a tube. Munchausen by Proxy is incredibly hard to prove, especially when he, himself, admitted that he ate more than he should. His injury happened when he was an older teen, too. Once he became an adult it would've become even harder to have him removed. Where would he have gone? He was not mentally incapacitated. Look at how much trouble Dr. Now had when he tried to turn in Lisa for James' sake...It's hard enough having children removed when they have broken bones and evidence of molestation. 

Don't get me wrong, Renee was a piece of shit and she is mostly responsible for what happened to him-and what happened was a fucking tragedy. But Sean's overeating was not a crime as far as the system is concerned. That's a huge gray area, anyway, because where would we draw the line?  

Next...

IMO Sean should've been admitted to a psych ward at some point. He needed way more care than what the therapists we saw could provide. I like Dr. Paradise and I think he DID try, but Sean clearly had problems with impulse control and major depression. He needed round the clock mental healthcare. You can't just tell someone not to do something when they are compulsively driven to do it. He may have been on medication, but whatever was going on wasn't enough. 

I'm struck at how different his living conditions were Pre Renee and Post Renee. When she was alive they had a clean apartment. Pictures on the walls, candles, decorations, blankets and sheets on the beds...At the end of his life he was sitting in the middle of boxes, buckets of pee, and trash. Sad. 😞 I wish there had been some volunteers who could've come and unpacked, decorated, cleaned, etc. Dr Paradise was right about him getting dressed every day, but I wish his apartment had also looked like a home. 

The care assistant was a good idea, but Sean lacked basic life skills. He needed more than that. That one dollop of soap wouldn't have cleaned my left ass cheek and I weigh 105lbs. I think he honestly didn't know how to clean himself, much less cook, clean his apartment, etc. In the very beginning he said that his diet was 800 calories but that he didn't know how to translate that to "real food." That information was most likely given to Renee and, naturally, SHE wasn't going to tell him. I think he honestly thought he was sticking to his diet. She was probably giving him a plate of food and lying about how many calories it was. He knew he was "cheating" when he ate a burger, but I bet he didn't realize that he was probably cheating with EVERYTHING she gave him. 

WTF WAS he eating every day? $9,000 worth of food? Jesus Christ! It may have been more than impulse control with Sean...I'm starting to think that his brain was lacking whatever it needed to tell him that he was full. Honestly, if he hadn't gained 277 pounds I would've thought that he was lying about the money. My first thought was that he made "friends" online and was sending them money to "help" them out. He seemed like someone who would be naïve like that. 

Lastly...WTF kind of "care facility" was he seeking? Seriously? He's 29 years old and his life's goal was to basically go live in a nursing home. He hated being in the hospital and rehab facility because they were "too restrictive". So where did he want to go? There aren't a lot of options out there. I *think* he was looking for a place that would bathe him, do his laundry, clean his room, take him to doctor visits, wash his hair...and let him eat whatever he wanted. Basically Renee Part 2. 

On another note, WTF Dr. Now? You sent Dottie to a hotel, ALONE, after major surgery and then got upset that she wasn't keeping herself clean enough? Why was she not kept in the hospital like others have been? (The smoking part was different. That was definitely on her.) 

[CrazyInAlabama]

After the skin removal surgery, Dottie went to the hotel with her husband, then he left her there to go back home and to work.  I don't think they ever mentioned it to Dr Now, and if he had known he would have arranged a care assistant for her.     I don't think Dottie, or the husband mentioned that he was leaving after a few days.  It wasn't featured much on the show, so it wasn't easy to catch.  (I hope that was Dottie, I get them mixed up sometimes). 

The worst problem for Sean was after the mother died, he could only afford that studio.   Even when his father came to help him pack, Sean refused to downsize enough where everything could fit into the space he had.    Then the flood took care of a lot of stuff, and that's when the church group came to help him move stuff out, and sort through the remaining stuff to get rid of the part that was soaked.    Then the furniture store donated a new bed and frame, and that huge chair-and-a-half for him.     I felt sorry for Sean, because his mother doomed him.  At least he did get into a care home for the end, so he wasn't alone.    

Edited November 10, 2020 by CrazyInAlabama

[mamadrama]

1 hour ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

After the skin removal surgery, Dottie went to the hotel with her husband, then he left her there to go back home and to work.  I don't think they ever mentioned it to Dr Now, and if he had known he would have arranged a care assistant for her.     I don't think Dottie, or the husband mentioned that he was leaving after a few days.  It wasn't featured much on the show, so it wasn't easy to catch.  (I hope that was Dottie, I get them mixed up sometimes). 

The worst problem for Sean was after the mother died, he could only afford that studio.   Even when his father came to help him pack, Sean refused to downsize enough where everything could fit into the space he had.    Then the flood took care of a lot of stuff, and that's when the church group came to help him move stuff out, and sort through the remaining stuff to get rid of the part that was soaked.    Then the furniture store donated a new bed and frame, and that huge chair-and-a-half for him.     I felt sorry for Sean, because his mother doomed him.  At least he did get into a care home for the end, so he wasn't alone.    

Yeah, I understand that about his stuff but that's not what I meant. People helped him sort through it and move it, but it still wasn't a "home." He was still sitting in a dark, dirty room surrounded by boxes and crates. Along with Dr. Paradise encouraging him to get dressed every day, I wish there had been some encouragement to take pride in his living situation-small studio or not. Sure it was small, but that doesn't matter. Hang stuff on the walls, make his bed every day, put out some candles, etc. It doesn't have to be a lot or expensive. Some of these things were probably difficult for Sean to do, of course, which is why I said I wished a volunteer could've helped him get started. There was no pride taken in his living space not because he was unable to do anything but, IMO, because he was so depressed he just didn't care. He spent the rest of his life in a single chair in a dark room (he rarely opened the curtains) surrounded by empty 2-liter bottles and buckets of piss. He gave up completely. It's sad. 

[CrazyInAlabama]

I think he was doomed by his mother's treatment of him, and nothing could ever change that.    I think when he went to Dr. Now's the first time, and weighed 800 lbs or so, received the diet instructions, and other material, then came back weighing 200 lbs more.     His mother was so disgusting, and there was no way for him to survive that.   

[AZChristian]

On 11/9/2020 at 7:01 PM, mamadrama said:

I've seen several people say that "someone" should've intervened and had him taken from his mom. I think this is a common misunderstanding of the system. I was a crisis intervention specialist for several years. It's incredibly difficult to remove a child from the home. Despite what Hollywood shows, CPS workers are not standing by and waiting to snatch kids away. Kids only get removed in extreme cases and, even then, it's a VERY low number.

And yet Dr. Phil threatens often, "If we don't get this fixed TODAY, I will contact CPS and they WILL remove your children from the home before the sun sets this evening."  It's like he's the king of CPS for the whole country, and if he snaps his fingers, they jump.

[mamadrama]

34 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

And yet Dr. Phil threatens often, "If we don't get this fixed TODAY, I will contact CPS and they WILL remove your children from the home before the sun sets this evening."  It's like he's the king of CPS for the whole country, and if he snaps his fingers, they jump.

Lol. I'm trying to imagine how we would've reacted if he'd called our office and demanded that a child be removed. My boss, who was totally ignorant of pop culture, would've been like "Who the hell are you?" 

[Hellga]

4 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Lol. I'm trying to imagine how we would've reacted if he'd called our office and demanded that a child be removed. My boss, who was totally ignorant of pop culture, would've been like "Who the hell are you?" 

I think it may vary by jurisdiction.  In poorer areas where there are plenty of families with real problems, and case workers are overloaded, removal is probably an option of last resort.  In towns where they sit and twiddle their thumbs all day, they might jump to remove kids if Mom let a 12-year old bike half a mile to the corner store (I think I remember a story like that from Connecticut or Maryland).  I know I lived in a town where every time there was any kind of road work or utility work, there were 2 police cars hanging out at the scene, because the total crime rate for the town was something like a dozen per year, and that included someone pouring a milkshake over a parked car! 

 

But Sean wouldn't have qualified anyway... and I think he was doomed.  Some people cannot be saved, and probably not worth the gargantuan effort required to save them.  

Edited November 11, 2020 by Hellga

[mamadrama]

7 hours ago, Hellga said:

I think it may vary by jurisdiction.  In poorer areas where there are plenty of families with real problems, and case workers are overloaded, removal is probably an option of last resort.  In towns where they sit and twiddle their thumbs all day, they might jump to remove kids if Mom let a 12-year old bike half a mile to the corner store (I think I remember a story like that from Connecticut or Maryland).  I know I lived in a town where every time there was any kind of road work or utility work, there were 2 police cars hanging out at the scene, because the total crime rate for the town was something like a dozen per year, and that included someone pouring a milkshake over a parked car! 

 

But Sean wouldn't have qualified anyway... and I think he was doomed.  Some people cannot be saved, and probably not worth the gargantuan effort required to save them.  

We had to, by federal law, investigate every report. Actual removal was a different story and much harder. There's a whole process involved. 

Sean died after having tens of thousands of dollars poured into his medical care. After having access to psychologists, psychotherapists, dieticians, physical therapy, weight loss surgery, personal care assistants, rehabilitation centers, and long-term hospital care. He lost 60lbs on his own when his mom was in the hospital; he knew what he had to do. Short of sticking him in a nursing home, not an assisted living facility where he would have access to his own food, and giving him zero agency over his own life I don't think anything else could have been done.

Dr. Now was right in James's episode-we still don't really understand obesity and how it relates to disability, at least where law is concerned.

 

[CatherineM]

As to spending $9000 that fast on food, we take in kids who have aged out of foster care with fetal alcohol. The first two symptoms of that are lack of impulse control and an inability to foresee consequences. One kid got a $25,000 check from a class action lawsuit. He took taxis everyday to the fanciest hotel in town to have coffee and a burger and fries for lunch. He went through the money in two weeks without having alcohol or drugs. He’d order take out slurpees four times a day. With delivery and tip, those were $25 a pop. When asked why, all he could say was that he wanted to feel like a real person for a few days. 

[Potatored]

How tall was Sean, just wondering?