S09.E17: A Double Shot Of Brandi

[KungFuBunny]

5 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

No, she never has. 

I still believe Brandi's version of events about LVP and the tabloids in the suitcase.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

4 hours ago, nexxie said:

Don’t know if anyone answered this - I’m still catching up.

As I recall the story, when Harry was first seeing Lisa he was accused of assaulting his old girlfriend, another actress. Lisa supposedly threatened her and she left town for good. (Who knows if it’s true?)

It's not. Julianne Phillips, the actress to whom you refer, has denied that anything happened. 

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I still believe Brandi's version of events about LVP and the tabloids in the suitcase.

I am pretty ambivalent about what I believe re Brandi and LVP. I think Brandi is VERY unreliable and I also think she has a real problem with alcohol.  In a she-said/she-said situation, it's difficult for me to believe that Brandi is being truthful.

But I also think that Brandi is exactly the kind of person that LVP likes to use to do her dirty work. So I can see the broad outline of the story that Brandi tells being true, with Brandi embellishing the details.

Edited June 5, 2019 by eleanorofaquitaine

[KungFuBunny]

4 hours ago, Giselle said:

I wholeheartedly disagree.

Loss is loss. God forbid that anyone loses a home in a fire or any disaster. 

Would it then be ok for the homeless to bash average people who lose homes and call them materialistic? 

Agree!

I don't think Camille is a very nice person but no one should have to experience that.

How scary would it be to be stuck on a road bumper to bumper while the fire rages all around? I felt really bad for Camille when she was talking about the cars not moving.

[nexxie]

20 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

It's not. Julianne Phillips, the actress to whom you refer, has denied that anything happened. 

That is not a verified acct.

[KungFuBunny]

2 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Anyone else see Brandi morphing into Adrienne Maloof?

I think she whizzed past Adrienne Maloof and is heading straight for Joan Rivers

[byrd]

18 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

I think Harry is right blaming Lisa for Amelia’s eating disorder. Wasn’t she pushing that kid to be a model? And Lisa is skinny too, I wouldn’t be surprised if she had an eating disorder too. 

[lcarolynl]

I didn't watch the whole episode but something that stayed with me, Who is the hell gets so glammed up for lunch?? Each and every one of those broads, except Denise, looked rather ridiculous in the natural light. Talk about trying too hard!

I was a fan of Teddi last season but not this season. She looks so silly as she runs her sanctimonious mouth off at every opportunity. 
When she hulked her way out of the limo for the lunch, she couldn't even look at the driver holding her door. Certainly no "Thank you". 
It goes back to the wedding episode but the way she walked to a dinner table in an evening gown, the lady doesn't walk, she certainly doesn't glide, she gloms and hulks her way around! She is graceless in her manner and speech.

I miss LVP! I still can't see what proof they all have that has made them so freaking sure LVP leaked the story to Radar Online. Until we have something more than supposition, I'll assume it's still unknown. Although ROL has publicly stated it was a HW and it wasn't LVP so I guess I'm assuming it's not LVP. For my money, it's Teddi or Camille but without proof, ....?
Brandi back? Maybe in small (VERY small) amounts. She's unstable and I can't feel good about getting my jollies off of a mentally unstable person. Same reason I don't want to see a lot of Kim on my screen.
Well it's apparent I didn't watch much of the show and I remember even less. Did anything happen other than the lunch? 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

5 minutes ago, nexxie said:

That is not a verified acct.

True, though not everyone - even former celebrities - have verified accounts. Anyway, there doesn't seem to be any real evidence that Hamlin assaulted Phillips except for rumor, and since it is impossible to prove a negative, I think it is more likely than not that he didn't.

[byrd]

4 minutes ago, byrd said:

18 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

I think Harry is right blaming Lisa for Amelia’s eating disorder. Wasn’t she pushing that kid to be a model? And Lisa is skinny too, I wouldn’t be surprised if she had an eating disorder too. 

Yes indeed Lisa is not blameless is this mess. Lisa barley eats herself.. no wonder her daughter has a disorder.

[byrd]

3 hours ago, Gem 10 said:

I have two adult girls.  They have NEVER spoke to me or my husband like Lisa Rinna’s girls did to Lisa and Harry.  Two spoiled brats.

Lisa and Harry look like they have gone their separate ways long ago.  At this point, it just looks like a marriage of convenience.  They all look messed up.  Nobody ate the burgers and corn Harry made.  God forbid they should gain an ounce.

I have never seen Lisa take more than 2 bites of anything ever. she just sort of pushes her food around on her plate to give the appearance that she's eating.

[nexxie]

2 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

True, though not everyone - even former celebrities - have verified accounts. Anyway, there doesn't seem to be any real evidence that Hamlin assaulted Phillips except for rumor, and since it is impossible to prove a negative, I think it is more likely than not that he didn't.

I’ve never seen a celebrity acct that wasn’t verified - if the rumor is true, Harry and Rinna would have paid well for her silence. Wouldn’t put it past Rinna to fake an acct, but there’s no way to know.

btw, have we ever seen Harry inside the house? He’s always in the yard - maybe he isn’t allowed inside and the girls have reason to be upset with him. Maybe...just wondering.

[byrd]

3 hours ago, Gem 10 said:

I have two adult girls.  They have NEVER spoke to me or my husband like Lisa Rinna’s girls did to Lisa and Harry.  Two spoiled brats.

Lisa and Harry look like they have gone their separate ways long ago.  At this point, it just looks like a marriage of convenience.  They all look messed up.  Nobody ate the burgers and corn Harry made.  God forbid they should gain an ounce.

If I had ever spoken to my parents that way  I would be picking my teeth up off the floor.

[KungFuBunny]

2 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Kyle...I know I'm not saying something popular, but...get your dogs under control.  I love the big dogs (not a fan of small dogs at all), but if she can afford a trainer, she should get one.  It would make everyone, including the dogs, happier.  I am not a dog trainer, but I have watched The Dog Whisperer, and he says that the animals don't like being in a chaotic, excited state.  I also think a lot of it is brought on by the nervous energy of the owner.  I just don't like that fact that the dog was barking at nothing when Kyle was on an international telephone call (even though the person on the other end sounded American).  Maybe I just don't like the fake 'trip planning' bullshit and I'm nitpicking. Everyone knows the dates of availability on a rental are available online.  So skip the fake shit, take your phone off speaker if the dog is barking, and ask your few questions, and we, the viewers, will pretend it's actually something you don't already know and that everyone needs permission from their husbands, and this this hasn't been planned out a gazillion years ago.  Calling someone to ask for the dates of availability just stretched my suspension of disbelief to its breaking point, and took me out of the scene.

When Kyle ran outside and was getting her dogs back into the house, She yelled out Sorry!

I think the dogs were excited and continued barking at someone outside. I don't think it was a neighbor. I suspect there were production crew members outside. The dogs are super friendly and wanted to play. When the dogs were locked inside the house, Storm continued to bark - he was screaming hey come here, let's play, open the door.

When Storm finally calmed down and was facing away from the door, the production crew outside must have moved their van offsite so they could finish the scene.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

5 minutes ago, nexxie said:

I’ve never seen a celebrity acct that wasn’t verified - if the rumor is true, Harry and Rinna would have paid well for her silence. Wouldn’t put it past Rinna to fake an acct, but there’s no way to know.

btw, have we ever seen Harry inside the house? He’s always in the yard - maybe he isn’t allowed inside and the girls have reason to be upset with him. Maybe...just wondering.

Julianne Phillips is no longer a working actress. According to wikipedia and IMDB, her last real work was in 1997.  She isn't really a celebrity anymore and as such, I imagine she hasn't bothered to get anything verified.

As for Harry Hamlin and Rinna "paying well for her silence," I mean, they aren't that rich? Certainly, in the mid-90s, Julianne Phillips was probably as famous as both Rinna and Hamlin were.  Given the fact that Rinna told us last night that they were relying on their story for actual livable income, I'm hard pressed to believe that they have that much money.

I mean, I think that there are reasons to dislike Rinna and wonder what the hell is going in with her marriage to Harry Hamlin. I just don't think that there is any real reason to believe he assaulted Julianne Phillips. 

[princelina]

12 minutes ago, nexxie said:

btw, have we ever seen Harry inside the house? He’s always in the yard - maybe he isn’t allowed inside and the girls have reason to be upset with him. Maybe...just wondering.

In the flashback from previous season he was putting the pies in the oven 

[KungFuBunny]

2 hours ago, Giselle said:

She did. We commented on it on another thread when she was photographed being a hot mess drunk outside yet another restaurant.

She did an Instagram video the next day and as she spoke you could see one side of her mouth wasn't working properly and that she's had a lot of bad work since she's been gone.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/brandi-glanville-cries-after-getting-wasted-in-hollywood/amp/

Ack! That's seriously scary. Do you remember what surgical procedure she had done?

In terms of Botox and Fillers, I think it should be required that doctors use other methods when injecting.

You know how when you go to the eye doctor and you have to rest your chin in that contraption before the doctor starts fiddling around with the gadgets to look at your eyes? They should use something like this for botox and fillers. I don't know anyone that has ever gotten injections in real life, I've only seen it on TV shows - but the doctor is never standing straight in front of the patient - they are always on the side. They should have this sort of contraption, even if it is made adjustable so that it is over the patients face while she's in a reclining position.

No wonder all of these women look lopsided or get the one eye is bigger than the other eye look.

You can't make anything symmetrically appealing when you're shooting from the side.

[nexxie]

2 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Julianne Phillips is no longer a working actress. According to wikipedia and IMDB, her last real work was in 1997.  She isn't really a celebrity anymore and as such, I imagine she hasn't bothered to get anything verified.

As for Harry Hamlin and Rinna "paying well for her silence," I mean, they aren't that rich? Certainly, in the mid-90s, Julianne Phillips was probably as famous as both Rinna and Hamlin were.  Given the fact that Rinna told us last night that they were relying on their story for actual livable income, I'm hard pressed to believe that they have that much money.

I mean, I think that there are reasons to dislike Rinna and wonder what the hell is going in with her marriage to Harry Hamlin. I just don't think that there is any real reason to believe he assaulted Julianne Phillips. 

I don’t dislike Rinna but she’s a hustler, by her own account - I can imagine her fixing a situation for Harry, as well as jumping on an opportunity to seal the deal with him (who was said to still be interested in Phillips). Whatever their situation, something seems a bit off.

[byrd]

2 hours ago, politichick said:

I seriously doubt I will watch next season if LVP is gone. I think a large part of the problem this season is there's too little Beverly Hills in the RHOBH now. Denise and Erika a basically trailer trash, Rinna never really had any class and is an envious shit stirrer, Teddi is  trying to fake it till she makes it, but she's just a basic bitch who talks too fucking much about shit that doesn't involve her. Kyle brings the wealth but she is a bad friend and though desperate to be the franchise's star, she's just not that interesting. I could live with Dorit, but I hate her because her stupid actions are the root of the franchise's demise. 

This group is not interesting enough to carry the show on their own, which is why the conversation has devolved to 

I really do wonder what made them include Denise. She is so low budget and is friends with Brandi? Eww. And does her husband have, like, a job?

I also wonder about that Hamlin marriage. I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves after the girls finally leave the nest. Does Lisa behave very differently at home, I often wonder, because I can't imagine he would tolerate the toxicity she spews into the group. And, like others here have noted, I think he's not "camping" alone.

This season was just horrible.

Like anyone else , I have a favorite cast member on each franchise that I watch.  IF LVP is not returning, I'm out. LVP is the only reason I even started watching this show because she brings the Real Beverly Hills Lifestyle, I don't agree with everything LVP does or says, but the reality is, she's true Beverly Hills and that's all I was in for anyway .  

[nexxie]

8 minutes ago, princelina said:

In the flashback from previous season he was putting the pies in the oven 

Thanks - I do recall that now! So he’s allowed inside, lol, and makes lots of good food to eat - so I wonder what those girls have against him?

[RealHousewife]

7 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Julianne Phillips is no longer a working actress. According to wikipedia and IMDB, her last real work was in 1997.  She isn't really a celebrity anymore and as such, I imagine she hasn't bothered to get anything verified.

As for Harry Hamlin and Rinna "paying well for her silence," I mean, they aren't that rich? Certainly, in the mid-90s, Julianne Phillips was probably as famous as both Rinna and Hamlin were.  Given the fact that Rinna told us last night that they were relying on their story for actual livable income, I'm hard pressed to believe that they have that much money.

I mean, I think that there are reasons to dislike Rinna and wonder what the hell is going in with her marriage to Harry Hamlin. I just don't think that there is any real reason to believe he assaulted Julianne Phillips. 

I can’t find anything legitimate regarding this rumor either.

The way Rinna flipped out on Kim was suspicious, but it is still possible Harry hasn’t even done anything that bad and she was just trying to protect him. I thought it was dirty of Kim to drag Harry into their drama. He didn’t do anything to Kim. Even if she didn’t flat out say anything specific, some people are believing the worst of Harry years later.

[byrd]

9 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Thanks - I do recall that now! So he’s allowed inside, lol, and makes lots of good food to eat - so I wonder what those girls have against him?

The fact that he tries to make them eat is what they have against him. No one eats in that house except Harry.

[nexxie]

Rinna is suddenly sharing a lot, about the girls, about Harry camping, about being okay living alone a lot - perhaps she’s working up to announcing something more.

Speculation about the situation doesn’t mean I believe the worst about Harry - just remembering the story about the three of them, and wondering.

[SunnyBeBe]

2 hours ago, Giselle said:

She did. We commented on it on another thread when she was photographed being a hot mess drunk outside yet another restaurant.

She did an Instagram video the next day and as she spoke you could see one side of her mouth wasn't working properly and that she's had a lot of bad work since she's been gone.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/brandi-glanville-cries-after-getting-wasted-in-hollywood/amp/

She's still apologizing because of her messed up, drunken antics.  She shows no concern that she is not only embarrassing her sons, but, setting a very poor example.  I'm shocked that Eddie even allows her to have unsupervised time with them.  How would she even pass a sobriety test?  Uggghhh.....

[Haute Messe]

3 hours ago, politichick said:

I seriously doubt I will watch next season if LVP is gone. I think a large part of the problem this season is there's too little Beverly Hills in the RHOBH now. Denise and Erika a basically trailer trash, Rinna never really had any class and is an envious shit stirrer, Teddi is  trying to fake it till she makes it, but she's just a basic bitch who talks too fucking much about shit that doesn't involve her. Kyle brings the wealth but she is a bad friend and though desperate to be the franchise's star, she's just not that interesting. I could live with Dorit, but I hate her because her stupid actions are the root of the franchise's demise. 

This group is not interesting enough to carry the show on their own, which is why the conversation has devolved to 

I really do wonder what made them include Denise. She is so low budget and is friends with Brandi? Eww. And does her husband have, like, a job?

I also wonder about that Hamlin marriage. I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves after the girls finally leave the nest. Does Lisa behave very differently at home, I often wonder, because I can't imagine he would tolerate the toxicity she spews into the group. And, like others here have noted, I think he's not "camping" alone.

This season was just horrible.

Amen. But I find Dorit just as awful as the rest.

[Giselle]

12 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Thanks - I do recall that now! So he’s allowed inside, lol, and makes lots of good food to eat - so I wonder what those girls have against him?

He's a male, a parent, and old. He's an adult. He may be the authoritarian/disciplinarian figure in the family. He may have drunk around them before he was sober and there is lingering resentment.

Edited June 5, 2019 by Giselle
Strawberry frosted poptarts. Well toasted and buttered on both sides.

[Juliegirlj]

On the preview for the next episode it looks like Kyle is talking about having an eating disorder too. Kim and Kyle’s childhood seems like it was pretty difficult. 

[byrd]

6 minutes ago, Juliegirlj said:

On the preview for the next episode it looks like Kyle is talking about having an eating disorder too. Kim and Kyle’s childhood seems like it was pretty difficult. 

I wouldn't doubt it with Big Cathy as their mother.

[Starlight925]

Brandi has surpassed Adrienne Maloof and Joan Rivers, and is heading to Jocelyn Wildenstein-ville.   She seems like such a sad and angry person at the same time.

Looking at the Julianne Phillips IMDB link (thanks for posting it), I completely forgot about her in "Sisters", which I loved.  She was adorable, and a great actress.  So here's my brain going:  I wonder if there was any truth to Harry and her (abuse), and Lisa and Harry basically wiped her off the face of Hollywood, possibly with money and/or threats.

The more they show Harry the person, as opposed to the actor I remember from L.A. Law (yes, I'm that old), the more I see a controlled level of anger, like he's reigning something in.  Just a feeling I get; I have nothing to base this on.

Edited June 5, 2019 by Sterling

[Jel]

2 minutes ago, byrd said:

I wouldn't doubt it with Big Cathy as their mother.

Is Big Kathy a nickname from the Interwebs, or did she actually call herself that?

[byrd]

6 minutes ago, Sterling said:

Brandi has surpassed Adrienne Maloof and Joan Rivers, and is heading to Jocelyn Wildenstein-ville.   She seems like such a sad and angry person at the same time.

Looking at the Julianne Phillips IMDB link (thanks for posting it), I completely forgot about her in "Sisters", which I loved.  She was adorable, and a great actress.  So here's my brain going:  I wonder if there was any truth to Harry and her (abuse), and Lisa and Harry basically wiped her off the face of Hollywood, possibly with money and/or threats.

The more they show Harry the person, as opposed to the actor I remember from L.A. Law (yes, I'm that old), the more I see a controlled level of anger, like he's reigning something in.  Just a feeling I get; I have nothing to base this on.

Brandi 's desperate , will do and say anything to get a Diamond.

[Giselle]

I'd bet Brandy asked to sit on the left side of Denise at the restaurant. Had to. Even then she kept turning her head trying to hide that wonky mouth of hers as much as possible from the camera. 

The red lipstick she wore in her talking head did her no favors, it accentuated the lopsided mouth especially as she spoke, and drew your eye to the pulled line across the right side of her face.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

20 minutes ago, nexxie said:

I don’t dislike Rinna but she’s a hustler, by her own account - I can imagine her fixing a situation for Harry, as well as jumping on an opportunity to seal the deal with him (who was said to still be interested in Phillips). Whatever their situation, something seems a bit off.

I mean, at the time all of this was supposedly happening, Rinna was a soap actress, not exactly the kind of person with the clout to "fix" anything. I'm old enough to remember the gossip from this period and until this whole rumor started going around, I'd never heard of anything between Phillips and Hamlin. Hamlin was known for his marriage to Nicolette Sheridan and Phillips for her relationship with Springsteen. Even now, if you look at info on either individual, there is no mention of any kind of relationship.

Obviously, it could have happened, but it's weird that in 22 years, no one has ever heard of this rumor or a relationship between the two. This rumor has only been bandied about since Rinna's time on RHOBH. And since Phillips is extremely private, she makes an easy target by which people can circulate the rumor.

16 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

I can’t find anything legitimate regarding this rumor either.

The way Rinna flipped out on Kim was suspicious, but it is still possible Harry hasn’t even done anything that bad and she was just trying to protect him. I thought it was dirty of Kim to drag Harry into their drama. He didn’t do anything to Kim. Even if she didn’t flat out say anything specific, some people are believing the worst of Harry years later.

It's possible that Harry HAS done bad things. I just don't think he has done this particular thing and I certainly don't think that Kim Richards has any special insight into Harry's life. 

[nexxie]

16 minutes ago, byrd said:

The fact that he tries to make them eat is what they have against him. No one eats in that house except Harry.

11 minutes ago, Giselle said:

He's a male, a parent, and old. He's an adult. He may be the authoritarian/disciplinarian figure in the family. He may have drunk around them before he was sober and there is lingering resentment.

Whatever their problem with Harry, the girls seemed to be in solidarity with Lisa - could also be because he’s actually moved on to his own “camping” life.

[byrd]

4 minutes ago, Jel said:

Is Big Kathy a nickname from the Interwebs, or did she actually call herself that?

That's what Kyle calls her as well. Not sure of the orgin possibly a nickname they gave her.

[KungFuBunny]

3 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

It's possible that Harry HAS done bad things. I just don't think he has done this particular thing and I certainly don't think that Kim Richards has any special insight into Harry's life. 

Does Kim Richards have special insights into anything? LOL

Poor woman couldn't find her missing bra crawling over a dirty floor

Edited June 5, 2019 by KungFuBunny

[nexxie]

4 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I mean, at the time all of this was supposedly happening, Rinna was a soap actress, not exactly the kind of person with the clout to "fix" anything. I'm old enough to remember the gossip from this period and until this whole rumor started going around, I'd never heard of anything between Phillips and Hamlin. Hamlin was known for his marriage to Nicolette Sheridan and Phillips for her relationship with Springsteen. Even now, if you look at info on either individual, there is no mention of any kind of relationship.

Obviously, it could have happened, but it's weird that in 22 years, no one has ever heard of this rumor or a relationship between the two. This rumor has only been bandied about since Rinna's time on RHOBH. And since Phillips is extremely private, she makes an easy target by which people can circulate the rumor.

It's possible that Harry HAS done bad things. I just don't think he has done this particular thing and I certainly don't think that Kim Richards has any special insight into Harry's life. 

I loved the show Sisters, and read about this rumor way back after the show ended. Phillips only acted for a year after that - 1997 was her last year of acting, and also the year Rinna and Harry married. 

[byrd]

25 minutes ago, byrd said:

Brandi 's desperate , will do and say anything to get a Diamond. if siding with the gang  against LVP will get her that Diamond that's what will happen.

[nexxie]

38 minutes ago, byrd said:

That's what Kyle calls her as well. Not sure of the orgin possibly a nickname they gave her.

Isn’t it to distinguish mom Kathy from daughter Kathy?

[Carolina Girl]

3 hours ago, Mojitogirl said:

Lisa R and Harry Hamlin are actors and I think what we see of them on TV are roles they are playing.

This.  Every reaction I've seen from Lisa Rinna, and practically every word she's every spoken, even when "surprised" seems to have been rehearsed multiple times in front of a mirror.  

[Haute Messe]

3 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Me too.  You know what I just remembered last night when I was watching the dysfunctional Rinna family dynamic?  That, in season five, when they were talking about sobriety, LisaR revealed that Harry "got sober" a few years ago.  And at the time, I thought it was for health, but I remember being like, "did the dude have a drinking problem or...?"  But I wrote it off.

Now I know that LisaR will minimize or maximize a problem to whatever level it suits her convenience, I am convinced Harry got drunk and either killed someone, or dropped a dog off at an Orange County shelter (too soon?).

But, in all honesty, that comment about Harry "getting sober" is nagging me now that I see how dark this family has the potential to be, and how much they sweep under the carpet.

I recall when Lisa revealed that Harry was sober and IIRC she said there was alcoholism in his family - I think his brother died from it. So I'd guess he either had a problem himself or was taking preventative measures. Either way, a smart move.

[Starlight925]

After Kim made the comment "Let's not talk about what you don't want out about the husband", (paraphrasing) a few years ago, and Rinna threw that glass, there was a visceral, guttural reaction from Rinna, something that can't be faked.

There's something there, I've always thought it.  

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-5/episode-16/videos/the-ladies-explosive-dinner-in

[Jel]

17 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Isn’t it to distinguish mom Kathy from daughter Kathy?

It probably is. It just sounds strange to my ear.

When I was younger, if we added "big" to someone's name, (which we sometimes did -- meanies!) it wasn't intended merely to differentiate.

Such dicks we were -- I cringe when I hear it now.

1 minute ago, Sterling said:

After Kim made the comment "Let's not talk about what you don't want out about the husband", (paraphrasing) a few years ago, and Rinna threw that glass, there was a visceral, guttural reaction from Rinna, something that can't be faked.

There's something there, I've always thought it.  

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-5/episode-16/videos/the-ladies-explosive-dinner-in

She also put her hand on KIm's throat. That is just not the done thing.

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, Giselle said:

I'd bet Brandy asked to sit on the left side of Denise at the restaurant. Had to. Even then she kept turning her head trying to hide that wonky mouth of hers as much as possible from the camera. 

The red lipstick she wore in her talking head did her no favors, it accentuated the lopsided mouth especially as she spoke, and drew your eye to the pulled line across the right side of her face.

Whatever surgical procedure Brandi had - affects her speech. It's part slur, part lisp

[langford peel]

3 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Whatever surgical procedure Brandi had - affects her speech. It's part slur, part lisp

Actually it is not surgical but a natural occurrence. 

She’s just used to talking with a cock in her mouth.

That’s why only Denise can understand her.

[RealHousewife]

17 minutes ago, Sterling said:

After Kim made the comment "Let's not talk about what you don't want out about the husband", (paraphrasing) a few years ago, and Rinna threw that glass, there was a visceral, guttural reaction from Rinna, something that can't be faked.

There's something there, I've always thought it.  

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-5/episode-16/videos/the-ladies-explosive-dinner-in

I don't think Rinna was acting either. I do think there's something as well. I'm just not convinced it's as ugly as Harry being a rapist or something along those lines. It's possible Rinna overreacted too, just because she doesn't want Harry attacked because of the issues between her and Kim. This last episode was kind of rare-Harry's not one of the husbands who's always around and almost wants to be a RH.

[LibertarianSlut]

2 hours ago, nexxie said:

btw, have we ever seen Harry inside the house? He’s always in the yard - maybe he isn’t allowed inside and the girls have reason to be upset with him. Maybe...just wondering.

Maybe Harry was caught doing coke in the bathroom...😗

[Giselle]

38 minutes ago, lizajane said:

I recall when Lisa revealed that Harry was sober and IIRC she said there was alcoholism in his family - I think his brother died from it. So I'd guess he either had a problem himself or was taking preventative measures. Either way, a smart move.

He had 2 brothers die from it 6 months apart. 

[Door County Cherry]

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[Gem 10]

4 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

I was full-on Team Camille season one, and I thought she was an asset in subsequent seasons, but she lost me about four or five episodes ago.  She doesn't seem happy with this new marriage, seems to have one foot in and another foot out of the show, which is hard for me to comprehend as a viewer, and as much as I despise Teddi, I just don't see her snubbing Camille's minor daughter, so that was just Camille talking shit to be a bitch AFAIC.

Speaking of Camille...isn't Rinna's problem with Camille vis a vis what Camille said about Dorit two months ago (as the screen showed us last night) very, very similar to the fight between Teddi and Dorit last season?  Didn't Teddi find herself getting "close" to Rinna, so Teddi blabbed some mild shit PK and Dorit said about Rinna possibly being psychotic three months earlier, because Teddi felt she was Accountable to The Truth, and, by extension, Lisa Rinna? (or some such bullshit) and both Rinna and Dorit threw Teddi to the dogs for dredging up old, inconsequential shit?  But now LisaR is going to make an issue of Camille saying that Dorit makes the back of her little hairs on her neck stand up?  Isn't that hypocritical?  And I don't have a dog in this fight.  Like I said, I don't like Teddi or Camille anymore, and I don't like LisaR--I just find her amusing--but this is bullshit.

This episode was officially boring.  I just don't think it's boring because of LVP's absence, as I find LVP boring.  It's just a sad cast.  I just don't understand why the hell they couldn't have edited the footage so that the news of the house fires came at the beginning, and then the rest of the women hightailing it to Provence.  We're on episode 17 already here!  There's just not that much more to see.  Wind it up.  You know it's bad when I am actually looking back at Mauricio getting his toenails cut with nostalgia.  I mean...half heartedly shopping for scarves in sweatsuits and spike heels? A very awkward family barbecue which fulfills every negative LA stereotype out there, complete with, "Dad, you've got bad vibes!" Denise looking high AF again, pretending to be above it all? Oh, and we got the aerial view of Teddi's house, which gives me the chills.  It's nice from the inside.  It's such an eyesore from the outside.  I fucking hate those posts that hold the house up.  I want to cry at the aesthetic nightmare they are.

Dorit's fashion shoot was...eh.  One the one hand, I am glad the bitch is finally using professional models and not herself.  On the other hand, it's boring to watch this.  And Dorit's accent?  Has 90% reverted back to American, unless she is in direct proximity to a British person.  Isn't she embarassed?  Oh wait, forgot who I was talking about...

Kyle...I know I'm not saying something popular, but...get your dogs under control.  I love the big dogs (not a fan of small dogs at all), but if she can afford a trainer, she should get one.  It would make everyone, including the dogs, happier.  I am not a dog trainer, but I have watched The Dog Whisperer, and he says that the animals don't like being in a chaotic, excited state.  I also think a lot of it is brought on by the nervous energy of the owner.  I just don't like that fact that the dog was barking at nothing when Kyle was on an international telephone call (even though the person on the other end sounded American).  Maybe I just don't like the fake 'trip planning' bullshit and I'm nitpicking. Everyone knows the dates of availability on a rental are available online.  So skip the fake shit, take your phone off speaker if the dog is barking, and ask your few questions, and we, the viewers, will pretend it's actually something you don't already know and that everyone needs permission from their husbands, and this this hasn't been planned out a gazillion years ago.  Calling someone to ask for the dates of availability just stretched my suspension of disbelief to its breaking point, and took me out of the scene.

I'm not going to mention She Who Shall Not Be Mentioned.  If you refuse to give a fire oxygen, doesn't it burn out?  Maybe that metaphor was too on the nose for this episode, but I refuse to talk about Brandi.

Lol.  You got everything down pat.  They all are running out of steam.  I can’t stand Dorit at all.  That accent and that holier than tho kills me.  What does that husband do for a living that she snatched him up?  Production thought bringing nasty girl Denise would rev things up.  They did, but in a bad way.  She is bad news.  Did everyone see the scene where she was going to repeat the Rinna/Kim altercation to someone and her husband looked disgusted and walked away? It was at the party.  She thought she was so cool to finish Kim off with the Bunny scene.  I don’t like her at all.  Teddy is getting just like her.

Theres something not right with the Camille marriage.  First you saw him, then you didn’t.  Already she’s going on the trip with the rest?  Piftt.  I only care for where they are going.  That’s it.

[LibertarianSlut]

Maybe this goes in the Unpopular Opinions thread, but I have to confess:  I'm kind of a bitch to Dorit's fashion at this point.  Not the Beverly Beach rubbish--that looks basic as hell--but the way Dorit does her own particular style.  When she was doing the photo shoot, I wasn't looking at the models; I was looking at Dorit, and how interesting the baggy jeans were with the boots and the top and...everything just worked.

I've never, ever been into trends.  I don't think you particularly have good fashion sense if you're wearing something that just came off the Moschimo runway (ahem, Erika).  Stuff off the runway can be brilliant, but it's not automatically brilliant.   I think fashion has to be interesting and just has to flow.  There is this really good documentary called Advanced Style about women in their 70s (and 80s!) who are total fashion mavens, and they don't do the trends.  They do the opposite--sometimes cultivating an outfit for decades.  That's much cooler to me.

I don't even mind when Dorit has the overinflated breasts out on display...I mean, she paid for them (well, I guess that's debatable).  But I think it's fun for them to be out (every now and again) in an unabashed way.  If I have to see raging cleavage (which, apparently as a viewer of this show, I do),  I'd much rather see big, bountiful things than things that are sagging down to someone's knees (not naming names).

I think the CHA NEL earrings and the mesh top with the 80s headband are for fun too.  I get the feeling she's winking at us.

Full disclosure:  I would have hated Dorit's fashion shoot outfit on Bethenny Frankel.  Dorit, for all her flaws, is carefree (oblivious?) enough to pull it off.  On Bethenny, with her severe personality, it would have looked like a costume.