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On 1/22/2023 at 10:27 AM, Mabinogia said:

 

The bigger issue with Chelsea was the whole "were you drinking" thing. There is absolutely no way that wasn't her lying to their faces, getting caught and trying to backpeddle. As an employer I wouldn't want someone who could lie to my face like that. And if it wasn't a lie, which I think it was because I'm giving Chelsea some credit for not being a moron, then the girl is stupid, and kelli doesn't like stupid. 

 

I don't know if anyone else remembers this, but there used to be a website called The Dirty that would post gossipy stuff.  I can't remember if it was Dallas-specific or if you could just filter by city, but they were particularly awful about posting pics/stories of women.  I think they posted stuff about men, too, but I mainly remember it being a very misogynistic, slut-shamey site.

I remember Chelsea being featured on that site around the time she was a TCC, whoever posted about her said she was a snob and a partier and posted several pictures of her drinking.  I'd bet anything that DCC was keeping an eye on that website.

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First of all, Hi! I have been reading this form for a few years and kept saying I was going to join at some point. I guess today is the day! 
 

Regarding Carla, the way she was treated was abysmal. I always looked at it as if they blamed her because they thought she shouldn’t have taken the pictures in the first place. Which is of course none of their business. I cringe every time I see that episode. That poor girl was so victim shamed.

18 hours ago, Girl in a Cardigan said:

I was watching season 4 last night and besides the Minchews of it all, I was struck by just how skeevy the “body fat” testing was in this episode (is this the last season they did this little exercise?). Like okay, I guess the girls need to be in bikinis for the test (though I feel like they could/should be wearing hospital gowns like any other patient), but it’s absolutely ridiculous to have the TCC remain dressed only in her bikini during the office visit portion of that segment. Like the girls didn’t drive to the clinic in their bikinis, right? Let them put their clothes back on instead of having them sit perched on a chair in just a tiny bathing suit while the two fully-clothed adults discuss their body composition. 
 

I’m sure we’ve talked about this in the past, but it just really struck me as wild. Even “little, tiny uniform” isn’t that small and exposing. 

I am so glad I am not the only one who thought that! Every time I see that episode, I wonder why the heck these ladies had to sit there with their bathing suits on. 🤦‍♀️

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Reading this form over the past few years and being able to watch the episodes on Pluto TV has made me want to make so many comments, but I won’t bore you with all of them right away. What I will say is that no one will ever convince me that Vivian‘s Tin Man routine was legit. I think it was totally contrived for the show. It was just so ridiculous. And every time I see Season 2, I want to be Miranda James’ best friend. She is just so sincerely excited for Natalie Woods, it just touches my heart every time. 
I look forward to finally be able to participate in this forum!

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4 hours ago, aeroluv327 said:

I don't know if anyone else remembers this, but there used to be a website called The Dirty that would post gossipy stuff.  I can't remember if it was Dallas-specific or if you could just filter by city, but they were particularly awful about posting pics/stories of women.  I think they posted stuff about men, too, but I mainly remember it being a very misogynistic, slut-shamey site.

I remember Chelsea being featured on that site around the time she was a TCC, whoever posted about her said she was a snob and a partier and posted several pictures of her drinking.  I'd bet anything that DCC was keeping an eye on that website.

You could filter but city, but Dallas was definitely one of the most tracked.  Didn’t hurt that Dallas is a reality show hotbed. Without even trying I think I know 15 people that were on the Bachelor or dated someone who had been. And then of course a Bachelor contestant (“winner”, I think?) married the guy who started The Dirty. Lol.

For every amusing post, tho, there were 50 hateful and misogynistic ones tho. Probably more. And then the guy who kept saying how not hot these girls were wasn’t exactly a big prize. 

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Season 10.  So many thoughts.  
taylor. No everyone should not get to live out their dream if that dream involves something you can’t do. And didn’t improve on in months 

poor Karen and her still too long hair for her frame and face 

Megan b.  Ugh 

kayleigh.   If they thought it was her hair dating her, why didn’t think fix it ??

simone.  If you arm was that injured , you need to sit out and try again   And as in previous seasons they aren’t asking for a change in dance style in 24 hours.  They had been asking for it 

emily.  Poor thing was just a startled poodle 

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1 hour ago, dariafan said:

poor Karen and her still too long hair for her frame and face 

Megan b.  Ugh 

Was that little Karen who Kelli said her legs were swallowed up by the boots?

I had heard that Megan B tried out with a friend who didn't make it to TC. It's possible Megan felt overwhelmed and lonely (because her friend wasn't there) so just decided to quit. 

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4 hours ago, MrsEVH said:

Was that little Karen who Kelli said her legs were swallowed up by the boots?

I had heard that Megan B tried out with a friend who didn't make it to TC. It's possible Megan felt overwhelmed and lonely (because her friend wasn't there) so just decided to quit. 

Yeah little Karen that the boots swallowed.  

17 hours ago, 88Keys said:

If leg length is a requirement, then they should measure their legs at auditions before letting them into training camp.

I always found it odd that it took so long into TC for them to try on the boots and dance on the field in them. Like, that's a huge part of the job, wouldn't you want to cut those who don't fit the boots early on to avoid wasting everyone's time. 

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Watching seasons 4 and 5 with Rachel Buckmaster. In season 4, they knew she was not right for the team. I’m not sure we heard too many compliments on her through auditions and into training camp.. Season 5 she tries out again, and the judges have the exact same comments for her. Why did they take her back a second time? Are we to believe that despite all the negative comments they had about her, that she was still better than all those girls left sitting in their chairs? That’s just one of the things I don’t understand about this team. Just like Kathryn Dunn. Why in the world would they take her the second time when they had nothing positive to say about her except that she was pretty? I think if I were sitting in those chairs, I’d be furious every time I saw these reruns.

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2 hours ago, lilybell1425 said:

Watching seasons 4 and 5 with Rachel Buckmaster. In season 4, they knew she was not right for the team. I’m not sure we heard too many compliments on her through auditions and into training camp.. Season 5 she tries out again, and the judges have the exact same comments for her. Why did they take her back a second time? Are we to believe that despite all the negative comments they had about her, that she was still better than all those girls left sitting in their chairs? That’s just one of the things I don’t understand about this team. Just like Kathryn Dunn. Why in the world would they take her the second time when they had nothing positive to say about her except that she was pretty? I think if I were sitting in those chairs, I’d be furious every time I saw these reruns.

I think they really liked Rachel Buckmaster and wanted to see her again hoping she had improved.

Kat Dunn was only given a 2nd chance for the show. I am sure the producers were 100% behind her getting selected. The cut 3 vets, but still chose her. She was beautiful and expressive and a reality show casting agent's dream.  "It's a gift," like Kelli said.  

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46 minutes ago, StellaCL said:

Kat Dunn was only given a 2nd chance for the show. I am sure the producers were 100% behind her getting selected. The cut 3 vets, but still chose her. She was beautiful and expressive and a reality show casting agent's dream.  "It's a gift," like Kelli said.  

Kat Dun, at least to me, was a near look-a-like to Kali Drake, but without the dance ability.  To me, Kali was FAR prettier, personable, and could dance.  I never did see the so-called "weight" issues they had with her (especially if it was in her shoulders and arms) and, if everything else was there, I didn't see the problems with her kicks.  Kicks aren't as big a deal as Kelli makes them out to be unless she wants them to be an issue.   Overall, I would have kept Kali and left Kat D in her chair.

From what I remember Kat went on to the Mavericks and stayed there for several years, but she never danced unless it was a routine that required the entire time or enough girls were out that they needed her to fill in.  She was the Malena of the Mavericks.

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On 1/25/2023 at 6:39 PM, lilybell1425 said:

What I will say is that no one will ever convince me that Vivian‘s Tin Man routine was legit. I think it was totally contrived for the show. It was just so ridiculous.

I totally see what you mean, it could well be. Having said so, this is Vivian we’re talking about. If  any old TCC/DCC was capable of such a stunt, it would be Vivian. In my humble opinion she completely lacked self awareness and judgement. Whether she “choreo-ed” tin man herself or had herself talked into it…lack of judgement! No professional cheerleader would even consider it.

Re. Carla Ann: absolutely! Such a shame that these reruns keep bringing it up. But… that probably goes for quite a few girls on the show. Their incidents were arguably not as serious, but I’m sure Malena would give the world to have her horrible office melt-down taken down permanently for instance

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28 minutes ago, DocBrown said:

Oh, I really liked Rachel Buckmaster. I thought she was adorable, polite, precise… would have been an excellent representative. 
That being said, I’m not sure she had the spunk/pop they were looking for. But I thought she handled everything with grace and poise. 

Agreed. She certainly was classy through both attempts. 

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10 hours ago, DocBrown said:

Oh, I really liked Rachel Buckmaster. I thought she was adorable, polite, precise… would have been an excellent representative. 
That being said, I’m not sure she had the spunk/pop they were looking for. But I thought she handled everything with grace and poise. 

I think her, Karissa, Kalli Fullerton, Alexandra, Courtney s10, Kyndall, Amy A, and Malena are some of the ones that come to mind in this category. They'd be great ambassadors but the dancing/memory wasn't quite there (apart from maybe Courtney and Kyndall). I always find these cuts harder because we often warm to these types of women, they become fan favourites but they just don't have the right technique or showmanship for the field.

I know Malena's meltdown didn't help her but you can't deny she might be one of the most knowledgable TCCs they've ever had about the NFL. She shined in interviews but her memory was horrendous.

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9 hours ago, DCC-UK said:

I think her, Karissa, Kalli Fullerton, Alexandra, Courtney s10, Kyndall, Amy A, and Malena are some of the ones that come to mind in this category. They'd be great ambassadors but the dancing/memory wasn't quite there (apart from maybe Courtney and Kyndall). I always find these cuts harder because we often warm to these types of women, they become fan favourites but they just don't have the right technique or showmanship for the field.

I know Malena's meltdown didn't help her but you can't deny she might be one of the most knowledgable TCCs they've ever had about the NFL. She shined in interviews but her memory was horrendous.

Ahh, you’ve named some of my absolute favourites there. I wouldn’t put Kalli in that category for me, purely because as a Brit it took me aaaages to find her first season. So when she was talking about her comeback I just wasn’t as invested. And Malena I found too intense. Also questioned if she was benched from the Jets Flight Crew what on earth was she doing trying out for DCC. 
 

But Alexandra, Courtney, Kyndall, Auto Amy etc… all won me over a heck of a lot more than someone like Erica. They all seemed like genuine, lovely ladies. Didn’t get that vibe off som of the supposed superstar dancers. Megan C, Melissa, Bridget excepted! 

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On 1/28/2023 at 7:37 PM, EricaShadows said:

Kat Dun, at least to me, was a near look-a-like to Kali Drake, but without the dance ability.  To me, Kali was FAR prettier, personable, and could dance.  I never did see the so-called "weight" issues they had with her (especially if it was in her shoulders and arms) and, if everything else was there, I didn't see the problems with her kicks.  Kicks aren't as big a deal as Kelli makes them out to be unless she wants them to be an issue.   Overall, I would have kept Kali and left Kat D in her chair.

From what I remember Kat went on to the Mavericks and stayed there for several years, but she never danced unless it was a routine that required the entire time or enough girls were out that they needed her to fill in.  She was the Malena of the Mavericks.

Kathryn was on the Mavs for only 3 years.

1 hour ago, dariafan said:

Season 7 on Pluto now.  Megan was practicing with Holly and she said she had taken a year off from dancing after she finished school.  Is it usual for someone to lose the ability to pick up choreography in a year ?  I know you have to keep doing something , but that just doesn’t sound right 

Which Megan?

Finale of season 7 is on right now, and Chelsea's asked a question, presumably "How are you feeling?" or something, as everyone is getting ready for the halftime show, and her response was just "I'm nervous and in a hurry", said really quickly and obviously annoyed. I think that's such an obvious marker of how fake she was on the show. She wants the attention but at the same time she wanted to be in complete control and she couldn't even pull it together enough to say "I'm really nervous but also really excited" or something similar.

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Season 2 was on Pluto the other day and in the segment where they are waiting for TC to be announced after final auditions, the girls are in some weird brick area that I've never seen before. It almost looks like a lower level bar or hospitality room in Texas Stadium. It actually had brick pillars and kind of reminded me of most hospital basements I've been through. Does anyone know what that space was? Abigail and Loni were rookie candidates.

On 1/29/2023 at 7:56 PM, DocBrown said:

Oh, I really liked Rachel Buckmaster. I thought she was adorable, polite, precise… would have been an excellent representative. 
That being said, I’m not sure she had the spunk/pop they were looking for. But I thought she handled everything with grace and poise. 

I agree, they wanted her dancing to improve because they would have loved her as an ambassador. I don't remember if it was her 1st or 2nd cut, but I recall Kelli saying that she could put her in a uniform for an appearance tomorrow but her dancing isn't "there" enough for her to make the team.

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Not sure why it's not letting me quote right now, but these are replies to posts upthread.

On why so late introducing boots to training camp: They are custom made for each TCC, so they have to be fitted, etc., once camp begins and then the boots get made over the next weeks. 

Unusual to lose dance memory retention skills in a year off? Megan's loss of skill seemed excessive, but, dance memory at that level, especially having to learn so much choreography with such precision, is kind of like a language skill: use it or lose it. My guess is she wasn't quite at the DCC level, regardless of time off, and that was the underlying issue. Megan and Emily had similar issues that TC (they even got pulled into the office together to talk about performance quality), and I think they ultimately kept Emily because she was so pretty and so smart. Both were soft dancers, but Megan had an overall more bland vibe in performance and presentation. I remember after she left, Kelli said that wasn't even a hard cut for her! Ouch.

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On 2/8/2023 at 5:29 PM, WenD08 said:

Correct, also. Jenna Allison didn’t make training camp.  She did try again  in S11 but it was the same result. 

Jenna was on the San Antonio Spurs Silver Dancers for 2 years (2016-2018) before the team was discontinued in 2018.

Jenna and Cassie Kathleen are the only 2 of the 5 vets cut in 2012 who made other dance teams. Cassie was on the AA Ice Angels for 1 season (2015-16) and currently on the USA cheerleaders.

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On 2/6/2023 at 11:39 PM, DCCFan2021 said:

Finale of season 7 is on right now, and Chelsea's asked a question, presumably "How are you feeling?" or something, as everyone is getting ready for the halftime show, and her response was just "I'm nervous and in a hurry", said really quickly and obviously annoyed. I think that's such an obvious marker of how fake she was on the show. She wants the attention but at the same time she wanted to be in complete control and she couldn't even pull it together enough to say "I'm really nervous but also really excited" or something similar.

Funny her comment in this exact moment always rubbed me the wrong way. Like gurlllllll get it together your true colors are showing and they're not pretty... truth be told she was never a fave of mine...

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I was just going to ask if anyone else noticed last night that Season 15 had been added. LOL!  Also, I'm getting annoyed with how Pluto has started running that incessant "We'll be right back" stuff between episodes when they used to run them one right after another.  I don't want to hear that noise over and over for 5 minutes or however long it is while waiting for the next episode.  

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Unfortunately, because of the time it was on, I couldn’t watch any of it except the very last episode that I could watch while I was getting ready for work this morning. I haven’t seen any of this season, but the last episode was actually kind of sad the way Judy was so emotional talking at the end. I still don’t know anything about the rookies that season. I’ll need to catch it the next time around. 

8 hours ago, tarheel220 said:

I was just going to ask if anyone else noticed last night that Season 15 had been added. LOL!  Also, I'm getting annoyed with how Pluto has started running that incessant "We'll be right back" stuff between episodes when they used to run them one right after another.  I don't want to hear that noise over and over for 5 minutes or however long it is while waiting for the next episode.  

It’s miles better than the horrid Botox commercials that run during EVERY commercial break, tho. The one with the woman is especially annoying! And there’s no escaping it. If you try to change the channel, it’ll be running on the next channel you pick. 🤬

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10 hours ago, tarheel220 said:

I was just going to ask if anyone else noticed last night that Season 15 had been added. LOL!  Also, I'm getting annoyed with how Pluto has started running that incessant "We'll be right back" stuff between episodes when they used to run them one right after another.  I don't want to hear that noise over and over for 5 minutes or however long it is while waiting for the next episode.  

it was doing it for like 10+ minutes at the end of episodes last night, legitimately creeped me out lol

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On 2/14/2023 at 5:31 PM, lilybell1425 said:

 

It’s miles better than the horrid Botox commercials that run during EVERY commercial break, tho. The one with the woman is especially annoying! And there’s no escaping it. If you try to change the channel, it’ll be running on the next channel you pick. 🤬

I haven't seen the Botox commercial.  Mine has lately been running commercials for Heartland but yeah, I've noticed that if you change channels to try to avoid certain commercials, they'll pop up wherever.

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15 hours ago, KnyghtRyder said:

 

So I recently learned this because I was researching advertising opportunities at my job: there are multi platform audio content entertainment companies that sell advertising on their various platforms, such as radio stations, podcasts, and streaming platforms, like Pluto TV. Their advertising is very specifically chosen to the viewer. You might be getting an advertisement because they utilized a geo-fence to target everyone in a specific area. So everyone in say Houston may get the same commercial for a car dealership. Or they might be using the Advertiser ID of your device to stream specific content to you based off of a number of factors like demographics, age, race, web pages you’ve visited, or your buying habits. It doesn’t matter what channel you’re on the streaming platform, if you change the channel, it’s going to still play the same commercials, for the most part.  I haven’t watched Pluto TV in a while but I bet if I did, I would end up getting ads for menopause. Lol. Good times.

Season 15 is where I stopped watching. I don’t have CMT so I’d have to purchase the season iTunes and I just couldn’t bring myself to waste the money. I may just suffer through those Pluto TV menopause commercials just to see. 

Thanks for this! I had no idea.  I’m glad some of you are not seeing the Botox commercials because they are so incredibly annoying! And they are played at every commercial break.

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On 2/14/2023 at 7:52 AM, tarheel220 said:

I was just going to ask if anyone else noticed last night that Season 15 had been added. LOL!  Also, I'm getting annoyed with how Pluto has started running that incessant "We'll be right back" stuff between episodes when they used to run them one right after another.  I don't want to hear that noise over and over for 5 minutes or however long it is while waiting for the next episode.  

I'm just relieved the commercials have started to get better.  I tend to run Pluto for background noise when I'm doing other things, and they used to be positively MADDENING. 

We aren't in an election cycle now, huge help, but good grief they were so bad.  I mean, not bad enough for me to turn on Apple TV and just stream the seasons I've bought.  lol.  I need to google to see if there's a setting for "play the whole season at once and don't make me touch the remote every 40 minutes, please."

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