All Past Seasons of the Late Lamented Show

[MrsEVH]

9 hours ago, Tdoc72 said:

Wtf is Judy wearing?  Talk about cutouts. This doesn’t look like business attire to me. (Season 6-episode 2) Her hair is on point as always.

 

Looks like an evening gown. The part above her bust fits terrible because of the skin overhang (AKA muffin top).

[MrsEVH]

1 hour ago, Jess14 said:

Wel, here’s the infamous Taylor/Cassie/Ally scene. What stands out to me more though is that earlier in the video (beginning around 3:50), Taylor gets completely outclassed by Alexandria in terms of dance. Whenever someone questions what it means to be outdanced, this video would be a good reference point. Some of it is that Taylor didn’t seem to know the steps and Alexandria clearly did, but regardless, it’s kind of embarrassing (for Taylor).

 

I noticed that too. I believe Alexandria was a former Cleveland Cavs Dancer.

Karissa wasn't doing any better either. I think she just didn't have enough dance experience and was only on that one minor league dance team.

Cassie rocking back & forth @ 4:58 looked like she was having  a mental breakdown. I know she wanted to say something but looked ridiculous. Then she and butt kisser Ally threw Taylor under the bus.

[Jess14]

42 minutes ago, MrsEVH said:

I noticed that too. I believe Alexandria was a former Cleveland Cavs Dancer.

Karissa wasn't doing any better either. I think she just didn't have enough dance experience and was only on that one minor league dance team.

Cassie rocking back & forth @ 4:58 looked like she was having  a mental breakdown. I know she wanted to say something but looked ridiculous. Then she and butt kisser Ally threw Taylor under the bus.

Yep, that’s what bothered me the most. I believe that Taylor had bragged about not practicing, and Taylor definitely didn’t know the dances. That’s a legit criticism from Cassie, but the rocking back and forth and hands on her cheeks just made her look childish. Just speak up and say what you have to say.

[MrsEVH]

25 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

Yep, that’s what bothered me the most. I believe that Taylor had bragged about not practicing, and Taylor definitely didn’t know the dances. That’s a legit criticism from Cassie, but the rocking back and forth and hands on her cheeks just made her look childish. Just speak up and say what you have to say.

I don't think Cassie (and Ally) should have called her out. She could've reported it to Kelli and then Kelli call Taylor in and talk to her. I just don't like when women do that to each other. I've  worked at jobs where my co-workers have done it at dept meetings.

Edited January 4, 2020 by MrsEVH

[JarlenaFan2024]

1 hour ago, MrsEVH said:

I don't think Cassie (and Ally) should have called her out. She could've reported it to Kelli and then Kelli call Taylor in and talk to her. I just don't like when women do that to each other. I've  worked at jobs where my co-workers have done it at dept meetings.

And the fact that Judy ENCOURAGED Cassie to speak up....ugh

[scorpio1031]

27 minutes ago, KnyghtRyder said:

But it is entirely evident to me that DCC is not actually developing leaders. But just girls who can keep count and keep bunch of other girls in step. Sometimes. 

I still think they do more than we think they do - running practices, teaching and cleaning up dances, working with rookies on learning the DCC way, dealing with concerns and issues, etc.  Didn't Milan say in her podcast you go thru the leaders first before you email K&J?  And it doesn't seem as though K&J respond all that fast.  I feel that while K&J do care about the girls, it is first and foremost a business.

[ByTor]

2 hours ago, BluegrassDCCFan said:

And the fact that Judy ENCOURAGED Cassie to speak up....ugh

Was it just me who thought Judy sounded a little annoyed when she asked Cassie if she had something to say?

1 hour ago, KnyghtRyder said:

IMO, what should have happened, is that Cassie or Ally - as DCC leaders - should have addressed it immediately and privately with Taylor if really that much of an issue/problem in their small group or in the larger squad as a whole.

Definitely.  You don't bounce up & down like a kid who has to pee and gang up on her in front of the whole group.

[scorpio1031]

1 hour ago, KnyghtRyder said:

I could go on and on. I actually managed our probationary training program for a bit (hence why I took lots of leadership training), but it’s boring and no one really cares.

Wish you had been my former manager:)  It's hard to be an assistant manager working for a guy who liked to throw his title around, but not do the job.  But yes totally agree, the whole situation should have been handled differently by Cassie, and by Judy.

I used to stick up for Cassie, but learning over the years what she was like as a DCC, I don't defend her as much.  She claims her actions were a result of her age and thinking she was "too cool for school", but I think they were a result of being a spoiled brat with an indulgent mother.  

1 hour ago, KnyghtRyder said:

I know these are young woman, some barely out of high school, so expecting decorum and professional courtesy may be a bit much, but if you are going to claim to be world-class, then actually BE world-class.  

Well, when Kitty, Kelli and Judy act like "mean girls" decorum and professional courtesy does tend to go out the door.  As much as I want a former DCC to do a podcast, I would love to hear from former CMT employees what was really going on during filming.

[parrotfeathers]

I think the other DCC chastising Taylor was way worse than Cassie.   Maybe Cassie fully intended to handle it privately after class but Mom convinced her to do otherwise.

[omgtv]

I don't really even mind Cassie in this video, but Ally.  She was the worst.  I have never liked her. 

[Anduril]

2 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

Wish you had been my former manager:)  It's hard to be an assistant manager working for a guy who liked to throw his title around, but not do the job.  But yes totally agree, the whole situation should have been handled differently by Cassie, and by Judy.

I used to stick up for Cassie, but learning over the years what she was like as a DCC, I don't defend her as much.  She claims her actions were a result of her age and thinking she was "too cool for school", but I think they were a result of being a spoiled brat with an indulgent mother.  

Well, when Kitty, Kelli and Judy act like "mean girls" decorum and professional courtesy does tend to go out the door.  As much as I want a former DCC to do a podcast, I would love to hear from former CMT employees what was really going on during filming.

I’d read a tell all behind the scenes book in a heartbeat. 

[scorpio1031]

37 minutes ago, Anduril said:

I’d read a tell all behind the scenes book in a heartbeat. 

Clarity: The True Story of the DCC

 

[Anduril]

25 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

Clarity: The True Story of the DCC

 

Thank you. Hopefully someone will come out with a more up to date telling. 

[KickPretty]

5 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

I think the other DCC chastising Taylor was way worse than Cassie.   

YES!  I have always thought Cassie took way more grief for this than necessary.  It was Ally who told her to say “yes ma’am”. Cassie was just calling her out on her bad dancing... which was REALLY bad! 😂😂😂🙈🙈

[Blue hues]

21 hours ago, BluegrassDCCFan said:

And the fact that Judy ENCOURAGED Cassie to speak up....ugh

The DCC sitting beside Cassie in this moment had such the WTF expression on her face as she watched Cassie!  Who was that?  Her expression was priceless!

[pinkandsparkly13]

1 hour ago, Blue hues said:

The DCC sitting beside Cassie in this moment had such the WTF expression on her face as she watched Cassie!  Who was that?  Her expression was priceless!

I think it was Whitney Isleib. I haven't seen the scene in awhile but she's the one I remember looking at Cassie while she was shaking and stuff. Lol

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[ByTor]

2 hours ago, Blue hues said:

The DCC sitting beside Cassie in this moment had such the WTF expression on her face as she watched Cassie!  Who was that?  Her expression was priceless!

Is this Brittany Evans?

[JarlenaFan2024]

1 minute ago, ByTor said:

Is this Brittany Evans?

Yep

[MrsEVH]

29 minutes ago, pinkandsparkly13 said:

I think it was Whitney Isleib. I haven't seen the scene in awhile but she's the one I remember looking at Cassie while she was shaking and stuff. Lol

While Cassie was talking Brittany Evans was giving her that same look.

[ByTor]

Just now, MrsEVH said:

While Cassie was talking Brittany Evans was giving her that same look.

I  put the screen grab of that scene above, that is a great "wtf" face!

[JarlenaFan2024]

On 1/4/2020 at 3:34 PM, KnyghtRyder said:

This scene will always be endlessly fascinating to me. IMO, what should have happened, is that Cassie or Ally - as DCC leaders - should have addressed it immediately and privately with Taylor if really that much of an issue/problem in their small group or in the larger squad as a whole. To me, if it was such an issue that Cassie couldn’t physically contain herself, it was something that very well could have (and SHOULD HAVE) been addressed much sooner and in an one-on-one session with her Group “Leader.” 

But it is entirely evident to me that DCC is not actually developing leaders. But just girls who can keep count and keep bunch of other girls in step. Sometimes. 

 

On 1/4/2020 at 4:07 PM, scorpio1031 said:

I still think they do more than we think they do - running practices, teaching and cleaning up dances, working with rookies on learning the DCC way, dealing with concerns and issues, etc.  Didn't Milan say in her podcast you go thru the leaders first before you email K&J?  And it doesn't seem as though K&J respond all that fast.  I feel that while K&J do care about the girls, it is first and foremost a business.

 

On 1/4/2020 at 5:01 PM, KnyghtRyder said:

I think you are right. I’m just being a little snarky. And granted, I’m a 42 year old woman with a career that has afforded me the opportunity to take a lot of leadership training as well as the opportunity to actually use the training. I wish the DCC leadership positions did the same - not just manage things but actually lead. I mean, maybe they do and this situation - possibly due to the personalities involved - just devolved into a cat fight instead. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Depending on the situation, if I had been in Cassie’s position, and I either:

1. Overheard Taylor boast that she didn’t need to practice full well knowing that Taylor didn’t know the dances, I probably would have either done an immediate on the spot correction or pulled her aside for a private conversation.

Or 2. If the other girls brought it to my attention that Taylor had made these comments, I would have evaluated Taylor’s dancing during the small group practice (since we know this happens even though we don’t see it on CMT:MTT) to see if what I observed corroborated the girls’ statements. And then had a private conversation with her (even if their statements were proven to be baseless, at least let her know that she was rubbing some of the girls the wrong way...I mean, these are your sisters! 😋).

If, at that point, Taylor still didn’t take Cassies direction/corrections and was still messing up and getting called out by K&J, it is then time for Cassie to request a one-on-one with K&J, first line supervisor to second line supervisor, then progress to meetings with K&J, Cassie AND Taylor from there. 

I could go on and on. I actually managed our probationary training program for a bit (hence why I took lots of leadership training), but it’s boring and no one really cares. But it is why I find this particular slice of behind the DCC curtain so fascinating. I know these are young woman, some barely out of high school, so expecting decorum and professional courtesy may be a bit much, but if you are going to claim to be world-class, then actually BE world-class.  

With alllll that being said, I found Taylor annoying and I’d have booted her out too. 

Who were Taylor's GROUP LEADERS that year? Just wondering.  Those should have been the ones to call out her behavior.

[Shady580]

On 11/11/2019 at 3:16 PM, lah715 said:

I liked her up until the 5th season when she used her clout to get her BFF on the team 🙄

I wasnt a fan from the beginning and I'm not real sure why. Dulcet was my favorite from season 1. And Melissa. 

[ByTor]

Watching Season 6 finals.  Kelli just said it is "statistically impossible" to make DCC.  LOL, methinks Kelli wasn't a Stats major in college.

[Geekgirl]

On 1/2/2020 at 6:09 AM, cherryblossom said:

Concerning Cheryl Dorris AKA Door Lady had breast cancer 5 years ago.  Somehow I found a recent podcast she made with the cohost of another Cowboys’ show.  It was about breast cancer.  She said they had a makeup person who had breast cancer & opted to go a natural diet based approach.  She finally went for traditional treatment but it was too late & she died.  Cheryl also struggled with really believing she had cancer as if she was standing outside watching it happen to someone else.  Someone said on LinkedIn it showed she wasn’t working for Kelli as of Nov.  Does anyone know about this.  I would hope it was because she decided to retire & not because her cancer came back.

Look like the position has been posted online - https://www.teamworkonline.com/football-jobs/footballjobs/dallas-cowboys-29704/administrative-assistant-dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-1966964

[mizzhyer]

1 hour ago, Geekgirl said:

Look like the position has been posted online - https://www.teamworkonline.com/football-jobs/footballjobs/dallas-cowboys-29704/administrative-assistant-dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-1966964

Lol...I would love to apply for that job but they would laugh at my salary requirement.  😉

[raindancer]

2 hours ago, Geekgirl said:

Look like the position has been posted online - https://www.teamworkonline.com/football-jobs/footballjobs/dallas-cowboys-29704/administrative-assistant-dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-1966964

I hope Cheryl is okay.....she just always seemed so sweet, and always had a smile on her face.

[Teriyaki Terror]

2 hours ago, mizzhyer said:

Lol...I would love to apply for that job but they would laugh at my salary requirement.  😉

I'd like to know what they pay for that position...and what K&J make.

[Opine]

4 hours ago, Geekgirl said:

Look like the position has been posted online - https://www.teamworkonline.com/football-jobs/footballjobs/dallas-cowboys-29704/administrative-assistant-dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-1966964

They require a degree and all sorts of experience.....so I am thinking as high as $12k considering the value JJ puts on the cheerleaders?

[ATLGirl]

6 hours ago, Geekgirl said:

Look like the position has been posted online - https://www.teamworkonline.com/football-jobs/footballjobs/dallas-cowboys-29704/administrative-assistant-dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-1966964

I wonder if they have a "must be okay with being labeled "Messenger of Doom" by DCCs at training camp" requirement in the job description. 😂

[Teriyaki Terror]

Why don't they use the touchdown decks anymore?

[MelissaMinion]

Oh, my gosh. I'm watching the last episode of Season 7 on Pluto, and seeing Miss Carbonation causes Cellulite going to Nicole's HOME to rummage in her fridge is so far over the line that HR can't even see it in the rear view window. 

The decision by Kelli to have this woman go to Kim/Jennifer's home, and Nicole's home seems like she wants control over every aspect of their lives. No good boundaries there. 

I hope these home invastions were counted as "appearances" so the girls could get paid. 

[scorpio1031]

4 hours ago, Opine said:

They require a degree and all sorts of experience.....so I am thinking as high as $12k considering the value JJ puts on the cheerleaders?

No kidding.  I still think Kelli needs an assistant director as well.

[mizzhyer]

55 minutes ago, Teriyaki Terror said:

Why don't they use the touchdown decks anymore?

I think they were deemed unsafe.

[lah715]

26 minutes ago, MelissaMinion said:

Oh, my gosh. I'm watching the last episode of Season 7 on Pluto, and seeing Miss Carbonation causes Cellulite going to Nicole's HOME to rummage in her fridge is so far over the line that HR can't even see it in the rear view window. 

The decision by Kelli to have this woman go to Kim/Jennifer's home, and Nicole's home seems like she wants control over every aspect of their lives. No good boundaries there. 

I hope these home invastions were counted as "appearances" so the girls could get paid. 

The swimsuit episode in on now ... the swimsuit "Fashion Show" makes me cringe a little those bathing suits leave little to the imagination ... some are down right raunchy (yikes)

[TennInTexas]

Why oh why did I click on stupid Pluto!? This is a bigger time suck than instagram....

Couple things-

Kali Nicole and Alex Hermès are both adorable. Were they well liked? 

as bad as the nepotism seemed at the time with Cassie, it pales in comparison to the VK-o-Rama we have now. Cassie never impressed me, she just seemed to have an expressionless look to me, but I think so did Whitney Isleib 
 

those breast cancer Performance outfits are TERRIBLE! They’re way too little-pageant-girl! Ick! (I think this is season 7?) 

 Does anyone have a roster of everyone from the show and their tenure on the squad? Just curious re-watching this who are the one and dones. 

 

[scorpio1031]

26 minutes ago, TennInTexas said:

Kali Nicole and Alex Hermès are both adorable. Were they well liked?

It seems they were - even after they both left the squad, they have been bridesmaids, attended baby and bridal showers, pictured on other alumni's social media, etc.  I think Kali now works at Mia's dance studio.  Alex lives in California, but visits Dallas and the girls visit her.

[phylogeny]

Jay is dead to me for his zeal of having Kali cut from the squad at auditions

[scorpio1031]

55 minutes ago, KnyghtRyder said:

Oh I agree! It should have been the GL...I guess I was assuming it Cassie due to her reaction. But if Cassie was a different Groups 1st/2nd Leader, then it just strengthens my stance that the DCC group “leader” dynamic isn’t very strong.

If they didn't do any funny editing, then it looks as though Taylor was in Group 2 which was Britney Evans, which might explain the funny look she was giving Cassie:)

 

[Blndee6]

1 hour ago, KnyghtRyder said:

At the risk of getting tomatoes thrown at me...this is first time for this public admittance...I never found Whitney Isleib either A. Attractive or B. Engaging. Maybe she was a good dancer, but she was so basic looking compared to the others. I have no idea how she got such a high standing in KelFine’s eyes. 

And quite honestly after the Halloween costume inappropriateness (thanks to Pluto, that gets to live in perpetual reruns) she didn’t seem to have a very high emotional IQ. 

No tomatoes here; I agree with you 100%. I think Whitney was one the blandest, most boring dancers I’ve ever seen. I couldn’t figure out why they put her at Point. Average looking (at best) with no charisma, no pop... somebody’s going to have to explain her allure to tptb to me.. 😂

[scorpio1031]

31 minutes ago, Blndee6 said:

No tomatoes here; I agree with you 100%. I think Whitney was one the blandest, most boring dancers I’ve ever seen. I couldn’t figure out why they put her at Point. Average looking (at best) with no charisma, no pop... somebody’s going to have to explain her allure to tptb to me.. 😂

Time for me to bring out the Whitney performance video!!!!  I think she looks great here as well as the rest of the girls.  Not a show group performance, just the vets from season 7.  Cassie, Lauren, Jackie, etc on the other side of the stage.

This next video put up by Emily Claire from Season 7

 

[fawn]

5 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

Time for me to bring out the Whitney performance video!!!!  I think she looks great here as well as the rest of the girls.  Not a show group performance, just the vets from season 7.  Cassie, Lauren, Jackie, etc on the other side of the stage.

This next video put up by Emily Claire from Season 7

 

They all look really good and very cohesive...unlike the trio for this season- which is a mismatched group. The 2 points are the least sexy/beautiful...and Amy in particular, is plain and short legged. The difference in the 'wow' factor is unbelievable. 

[scorpio1031]

2 minutes ago, fawn said:

They all look really good and very cohesive...unlike the trio for this season- which is a mismatched group. The 2 points are the least sexy/beautiful...and Amy in particular, is plain and short legged. The difference in the 'wow' factor is unbelievable. 

Those three aren't even the triangle for games - if you're referring to Whitney, Sydney and Mia.  But overall the "wow" factor compared to this year's show group is unbelievable

 

[RedDelicious]

I always thought Whitney was one of the best DCC style dancers they ever had. I don't think she ever missed a beat. She had that down home girl next door look and a figure to die for.  

[Blue hues]

16 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

Those three aren't even the triangle for games - if you're referring to Whitney, Sydney and Mia.  But overall the "wow" factor compared to this year's show group is unbelievable

 

Is VK in this video?  Can’t really tell.  Has she performed at most of the appearances?  How do they decide who goes to what appearance?  Who has had the most appearances?  

[scorpio1031]

3 minutes ago, Blue hues said:

Is VK in this video?  Can’t really tell.  Has she performed at most of the appearances?  How do they decide who goes to what appearance?  Who has had the most appearances?  

I'll post another one that I think she's in, but I'll put it in the Current Thread.

[MelissaMinion]

7 hours ago, KnyghtRyder said:

Somehow the gods have smiled up me again and Season 8 Episode 6 is playing on Pluto. I call it, “Here Come The Fatties!!”

KelFine: 😠 You are all 🐷🐷🐷🐷

Danielle: 🥺

Kim: 😢

Paige: 😭

Chelsea: 🤡 

Kitty: 👿

KelFine: 😒

Chelsea: 😇

KelFine: 🤔...

Chelsea: 😇😇😇...😬...

KelFine: 😡

Chelsea: 😱

Kitty: 😈

Judy: 😳

The End. 

Hah, perfect!

[cgloss]

I don’t get the Whitney love, either. She had showmanship, but so did most of the squad back then. And she did have a bland look. Took awesome photos, though. Like Caroline. 
 

Also never got the Holly Arielle love. Pretty girl, though. I will always wonder why she wasn’t asked to be an All-Star. 

[Teriyaki Terror]

14 hours ago, phylogeny said:

Jay is dead to me for his zeal of having Kali cut from the squad at auditions

The only think I have ever agreed with Jay one is Cassie's 5th year audition. She was injured and stumbled her way through it. Jay asked would the judges extend the same grace to a rookie auditioning? This is also the only time I have ever disagreed with Kristi Scales. 

[MelissaMinion]

Does anyone know what the Courtney who was cut at the last moment from Season 10 is doing now? I liked her a lot. 

[MrsEVH]

6 hours ago, MelissaMinion said:

Does anyone know what the Courtney who was cut at the last moment from Season 10 is doing now? I liked her a lot. 

After getting cut from the DCC she went back to the DS Ice Girls for a 2nd season. I think she might have retired from dancing. Her IG is courtlynnjohnson

Edited January 8, 2020 by MrsEVH