Matt and Caryn

[albarino]

On 6/21/2022 at 9:02 PM, BusyOctober said:

I am also tired of hearing Matt say “the deal fell apart” re. selling the farm to Zach.  I don’t think there ever was a deal.  Sounds like Zach was expecting to pay below market, with a family discount applied. And Matt was expecting top dollar, no Groupons or Kohls Cash accepted.

FOR SURE late to the party on this but I want to record my two cents.  As the father, I hold Matt completely accountable for the talks falling apart.  Yes, they are both adults but never forget the effect of a father's scorn (I wasn't there--I think Tory was highly offended at the tone/words her FIL had with Zach).  Reasonable people don't insult their son when discussing business, especially when the spouse is present.

Business deals fall apart all of the time; there is no real reason they must go scorched earth when they do. For this I blame the father.  Matt could have disagreed with Zach's proposal with a pause to get back with Zach or something.  He handled it poorly.

I have a daughter who is 33.  We have decided we want to get along.  I never press her on things I know she disagrees with me on and she never presses me with things she knows I feel strongly about.  Granted, these are not things like buying the house but you get my drift (there is a lot to disagree on these days).  We want to get along.  

Matt and Caryn can "aw shucks" it all day long in their confessionals but they blew it.  Matt, you raised your son and you made him feel like a heel.  I really don't want to forgive you for it.  You're the father.

[Irate Panda]

Saw this on another board, I think this is a nice pic of Amy and Chris.  Looks much more natural and relaxed, I’m not sure who took it.  Matt and Caryn also look nice.

Edited June 26, 2022 by Irate Panda

[Passing Strange]

That picture is lovely. Tall, short, it doesn't matter, just happy couples.

[Redrum]

Here's the other post with the same picture. Apparently someone pissed in Matt's Cheerios. I also see the spelling fail and the word salad issues. 

eta: And now Matt has deleted this post where he's telling people to go away if they aren't praising him and that he will respond to fools for fun.  Guys, I'm thinking Matt's got some regrets on this one. 

Edited June 26, 2022 by Redrum

[stoppro]

53 minutes ago, Redrum said:

Here's the other post with the same picture. Apparently someone pissed in Matt's Cheerios. I also see the spelling fail and the word salad issues. 

🤮

[Redrum]

I'm beginning to think he was drunk angry posting. More misspellings, not entirely coherent and apparently Caryn has 3x his net worth?

Not sure I am buying that ;) Although I don't think Caryn is super poor either. 

[ginger90]

[Jeanne222]

54 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

What a nice picture of the two of them!

[ginger90]

3 pictures:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cfmvk0tukxG/

[athousandclowns]

On 6/23/2022 at 12:28 PM, LilyD said:

General comment, so no personal attacks:

Homeless is politically incorrect and houseless is the new word… Really? Come on! I wish we, the human race, would stop nitpicking and take offence on behalf of others. The world has so many real problems that need to be dealt with.
I’ll add it to my ever growing list of new politically correct words sigh….. But I doubt anyone living on the streets gives a f*** about being called homeless as they’re trying too hard to survive. (

I have a friend who volunteers  with the” unhoused ” daily.  I’ve been down in the encampments  with him several times.  I  have  sorted clothing donations for them and brought them to shelters to hand out to folks that couldn’t get into the temporary shelters. . I purchased clothing for them.   My friend is a is retired psychotherapist that has worked in field of homelessness  for years and years, He uses the expression no one should be homeless.  I’ve never heard the word houseless said  ,yes on unhoused in his charity groups.   I’ve only watched the beginning and have  second hand embarrassed for Caryn clapping like a teen that she might get engaged. Yeah I’d feel uncomfortable in a master bedroom of a “ friend” whose husband you slept with then in turn insisting that he get said friend off the property so you won’t be uncomfortable seeing her.  .  If he ever marries her she’ll be screwing the handyman in no time if she isn’t already. 
Who  the Hell wants to buy that broken down carnival? 

[Endora]

2 hours ago, athousandclowns said:

Who  the Hell wants to buy that broken down carnival? 

Chris Marek

[Irate Panda]

5 minutes ago, Endora said:

Chris Marek

😂😂😂😂

[Awfarmington]

Does anyone else think Matt has no real intentions to sell that 1/2 of the farm? Or at least doesn’t want to sell it that badly?

I could be wrong, but I can’t see him giving up control of any part of the farm. And maybe that’s why he priced it on the higher end after the market was staring to cool? 
 

Logically, one would ask why he would even put it on the market if he didn’t want to sell, and I don’t have an answer to that. But as an example (smaller scale obviously), I’ve been to garage sales where certain items were priced well above typical ‘yard sale’ prices. When asked if price is negotiable, they say no, I really don’t ‘need’ to sell it and I’m fine just keeping it. It doesn't make sense that’s it’s even on a table, offered for sale when they know no one will by buy, yet, it is. 
 

[Awfarmington]

On 7/6/2022 at 10:32 PM, Dustbunny said:

he's waiting for Matt to.....  put a ring on it 

I asked my teenager if he wanted to watch the new episode with me. He said, no thanks. It’s mainly just them showing the kids (Tori and Zach) punishing Matt and Chris being in love with Matt. Which is the perspective of not only a 15 year old but I suspect most adults. 
 

Side note: He never watches any TV with me at this point in his life and I’m sure heard me yelling at the TV during previous episodes lol. 

Edited July 8, 2022 by Awfarmington
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[Irate Panda]

2 minutes ago, Awfarmington said:

Does anyone else think Matt has no real intentions to sell that 1/2 of the farm? Or at least doesn’t want to sell it that badly?

I could be wrong, but I can’t see him giving up control of any part of the farm. And maybe that’s why he priced it on the higher end after the market was staring to cool? 
 

Logically, one would ask why he would even put it on the market if he didn’t want to sell, and I don’t have an answer to that. But as an example (smaller scale obviously), I’ve been to garage sales where certain items were priced well above typical ‘yard sale’ prices. When asked if price is negotiable, they say no, I really don’t ‘need’ to sell it and I’m fine just keeping it. It doesn't make sense that’s it’s even on a table, offered for sale when they know no one will by buy, yet, it is. 
 

Just me guessing, but as I’ve said I do think some of the farm stuff is pushed for the show. They’re pretty much running out of storylines.  I don’t think that part of the farm is worth 4 million, I mean the market is overly inflated, but I do think it was worth a lot more than Zach was offering.  

I do think that Matt worries about money, despite being around 60.   I think he knows his health care costs will continue to increase and I don’t know how much he still owes from the Amy sale, plus he’s trying to build his new home.    I would guess he’d be willing to part with that of the farm if he could really get 4 million for it because it would probably become a storage unit as I don’t see Caryn and him actually living there. He wouldn’t like it, but 4 million would make it more palatable.  

So at best he gets 4 million dollars at worst he has another storyline for the show.  YMMV :)

[Harry Wails]

2 minutes ago, Irate Panda said:

Just me guessing, but as I’ve said I do think some of the farm stuff is pushed for the show. They’re pretty much running out of storylines.  I don’t think that part of the farm is worth 4 million, I mean the market is overly inflated, but I do think it was worth a lot more than Zach was offering.  

I do think that Matt worries about money, despite being around 60.   I think he knows his health care costs will continue to increase and I don’t know how much he still owes from the Amy sale, plus he’s trying to build his new home.    I would guess he’d be willing to part with that of the farm if he could really get 4 million for it because it would probably become a storage unit as I don’t see Caryn and him actually living there. He wouldn’t like it, but 4 million would make it more palatable.  

So at best he gets 4 million dollars at worst he has another storyline for the show.  YMMV :)

I agree, I think Matt would let it go for 4 million anything less than that and he'd rather keep it.

It provides another storyline for the show and he might be planning on renting it out if it doesn't sell so it needed to be freshened up anyways to increase the rent potential.

[Redrum]

7 minutes ago, Awfarmington said:

Does anyone else think Matt has no real intentions to sell that 1/2 of the farm? Or at least doesn’t want to sell it that badly?

Doesn't want to sell it that badly, in my opinion. If someone slapped down 4 million he'd happily grab it up. And ultimately I think he started getting bored when he got control of the property and realized no one was willing to dance for the farm once Zach realized he was never getting it. Ultimately Matt's the only one in the Roloff clan who has ever expressed the wish to sell the farm - he really isn't tied to that property. 

24 minutes ago, Awfarmington said:

Logically, one would ask why he would even put it on the market if he didn’t want to sell, and I don’t have an answer to that.

The show. The sale of the farm is clearly a storyline. The announcement of the sale was on Jackson's birthday right before the show's new season began. Its for the show. 

I do question where this goes as the place isn't selling and Matt probably can't sell "well, I changed my mind, it's not overwhelming me".

[Awfarmington]

2 minutes ago, Irate Panda said:

Just me guessing, but as I’ve said I do think some of the farm stuff is pushed for the show. They’re pretty much running out of storylines.  I don’t think that part of the farm is worth 4 million, I mean the market is overly inflated, but I do think it was worth a lot more than Zach was offering.  

I do think that Matt worries about money, despite being around 60.   I think he knows his health care costs will continue to increase and I don’t know how much he still owes from the Amy sale, plus he’s trying to build his new home.    I would guess he’d be willing to part with that of the farm if he could really get 4 million for it because it would probably become a storage unit as I don’t see Caryn and him actually living there. He wouldn’t like it, but 4 million would make it more palatable.  

So at best he gets 4 million dollars at worst he has another storyline for the show.  YMMV :)

That’s an angle I’ve also thought of and makes sense, too. 

[Jeanne222]

I too think Matt is just testing the market with Roloff farms.  He's at the age where I think he would sell if the price is right!  I will say he might have missed the hot market!  Stocks are tumbling and the housing market is cooling off a bit.  Lotsa people had lotsa money!

I didn't get the idea Matt's anxious to build another monster home. When he and Caryn were pondering the build I didn't see that spark in his eyes!   Right now building supplies are through the roof.  Contractors have waiting lists.

A friend has contracted for a 12 x 15 ft four seasons room as an addition to her home.  Going price $70,000 eight months ago.  Prices on the rise and the contractor, a well respected builder, can't find help!  It's still not built and labor and material keeps rising in price!

Matt's about one year late!

[CrazyInAlabama]

On 7/7/2022 at 9:41 PM, Redrum said:

Doesn't want to sell it that badly, in my opinion. If someone slapped down 4 million he'd happily grab it up. And ultimately I think he started getting bored when he got control of the property and realized no one was willing to dance for the farm once Zach realized he was never getting it. Ultimately Matt's the only one in the Roloff clan who has ever expressed the wish to sell the farm - he really isn't tied to that property. 

The show. The sale of the farm is clearly a storyline. The announcement of the sale was on Jackson's birthday right before the show's new season began. Its for the show. 

I do question where this goes as the place isn't selling and Matt probably can't sell "well, I changed my mind, it's not overwhelming me".

Or he thinks he can get a better price because it's a 'celebrity' property.    That's happened with other sales from other reality stars, and didn't work. 

The Gosselin's house in the cul de sac was marketed that way, and it had a spectacular flop.    

I was always surprised with that huge property, they built a multilevel home, with all of the phsical challenges.    I wonder if anyone eve cleaned out that trash pile of a basement?  

Edited July 10, 2022 by CrazyInAlabama

[b4pjoe]

I think the biggest issue with the sale is the Castle, Pirate Ship, Mine Shaft, Old Western Town (complete with a saloon, jail, post office, and so much more). Who in their right mind with $4 million to spend would want that crap?

[LilyD]

2 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

Or he thinks he can get a better price because it's a 'celebrity' property.    That's happened with other sales from other reality stars, and didn't work. 

Yep, in the seller’s mind it’s a bonus. To most buyers it’s a curse with fans and tourists showing up for years to come. (E.g.. The current owner of the first Sister Wives house in Lehi still regularly has fans driving by or taking pictures. It’s been 10 years!)

54 minutes ago, b4pjoe said:

I think the biggest issue with the sale is the Castle, Pirate Ship, Mine Shaft, Old Western Town (complete with a saloon, jail, post office, and so much more). Who in their right mind with $4 million to spend would want that crap?

This! Also, the entire house would need a complete overhaul as it was designed for little persons. Particularly the kitchen and bathrooms need work, but I remember thinking that the windows seemed a little lower than normal and there’s other stuff like the fence around the deck, door handles etc. And as someone mentioned above: builders  don’t come cheap and have huge waiting lists.

[Redrum]

There lies the problem. The "whimsical structures" on the property are maintenance issues certainly not to code (there's a reason people aren't allowed into the Western Town buildings on the pumpkin season tours, likewise the castle). While the listing says you can grow pumpkins there, the reality is that a significant portion of the property is parking lot.  And in theory, the property's next door neighbor will be running an October pumpkin season on HIS property which greatly increases the nuisance issues with the whimsical structures that the pumpkin crowd is used to touring.

The house is both lovely and weird. There's a fireplace in the garage. There's an upstairs room that is really a closet posing as gym (the LUXE properties listing has a full tour and floorplans and guys, its a roomy place but its weird and full of oddly shaped areas that don't have any defined use. There's two bathrooms on the second floor and one has a sink that is blatantly chipped. One of the bedrooms is staged with a refrigerator in it. Several of the upstairs bedroom and the closet posing as a gym have low head clearance. I can only find five bathrooms on the floor plans despite it listing having six. The kitchen will need extensive remodeling. I mean don't get me wrong, if I was offered the place I'd happily move in but its really not move in ready and it goes beyond being a little dated. If Matt is superfirm on price then I see why its still on the market after almost two months.

2 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

Or he thinks he can get a better price because it's a 'celebrity' property.    That's happened with other sales from other reality stars, and didn't work. 

This. I think he is banking on some crazy fan dying to buy the place no matter what the cost and I don't think it will happen. I am curious when and if we will see a price drop. 

[ginger90]

I don’t think there’s much about the house that is geared toward little people. The kitchen has some lowered countertops, but it’s not designed to be “accessible”, in my opinion.

[Redrum]

24 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I don’t think there’s much about the house that is geared toward little people. The kitchen has some lowered countertops, but it’s not designed to be “accessible”, in my opinion.

The stove top is really low. I could live with the lower island and would likely just ignore the microwave thats set in the lower cabinets but the stovetop being so low would be awkward. Likewise the oven being set a bit low. That kitchen is certainly workable for average height people, but not sure I'd pay four million for "workable". 

[Absolom]

I'm only a few inches taller than Amy and might love that kitchen.  What would drive me around the bend is the non-standard layout of the house where rooms and corners appeared with each remodel plus the varying ceiling heights and the non-standard windows.  What would definitely keep me from buying the property is the parking lot first.  It's an eyesore that would have to immediately go.  Then the barns and pumpkin season buildings.  I might want the most well maintained barn if it's suitable for a few animals.  Then all the tour stuff for pumpkin season would have to be razed and cleared.  That all would cost a lot of money and I would enter negotiations thinking deductions from the price for having to remediate all that stuff.  I don't think Matt is seeing this from the more average usage person point of view.  

[Ms.Lulu]

It does look like none of the properties around Matt's targeted price are selling.  It may be a long time before the big house sells.  And that makes sense.

There just aren't many people who can afford $4MM property.  If you put 20% down and borrow the rest you need to be making more than $700K/year to qualify.

So less than 1% of the population qualifies.  And really, how many in the 1% would choose Hillsboro, OR?

Edited July 10, 2022 by Ms.Lulu

[Jeanne222]

I don't know if anybody here watches House Hunters but they have had at least two cash buyers that made their money from Bitcoin!  It has since really taken quite a fall but lot's of folks made big money from that and also a lot of on fire stocks the last few years when the market was red hot!

So there could be buyers with deep pockets and that's why Matt's fishing.  Huge price and he's just sitting and waiting to see what swims in!

He's not changing anything because you never know!  A friend was selling her house and was thinking of doing some landscaping.  The realtor said no and she listened.  Sold that home to a couple and he is a landscaping engineer specializes in golf courses!  You should see it now!

Btw is Chris Matt's realtor?

[LilyD]

Well, my mom is not LP but with 4ft7 pretty small. She had some adjustments made in her house to make it all more comfortable and easy to use. Think of slightly lower counter tops, lower top cabinets, lower sink in the bathroom and a  lower toilet as well. It wasn't much but a few inches apparently does make a huge difference to people of average height. Most people who came to visit would notice and I have asked a few times how it was to them. They indeed called it "workable" when helping my mom in the kitchen for instance but the bathroom was more like "inconvenient". 

So, my point with Matt's house: I can definitely see things that were adjusted to LP, which is perfectly fine as they had to live there. The kitchen certainly is lower as was obvious when taller people were there. The people who moved into my mom's house had things replaced and adjusted within months as it just wasn't convenient.  I expect that people with that much money won't accept "workable" but I'm sure you can afford a contractor to have that fixed if you can afford a 4 million dollar house! 

[ginger90]

7 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Btw is Chris Matt's realtor?

No he isn’t. Unless there’s something preventing it, he could end up showing it as a buyer’s agent though.

Edited July 10, 2022 by ginger90

[Jeanne222]

7 hours ago, ginger90 said:

No he isn’t. Unless there’s something preventing it, he could end up showing it as a buyer’s agent though.

Thank you. Seems if there’s commission to be made they would keep it in the family. Strange they are giving money to a stranger…friend!

[Redrum]

2 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Thank you. Seems if there’s commission to be made they would keep it in the family. Strange they are giving money to a stranger…friend!

Couple thoughts on that:

1. Given Matt's tendency to bitch to the public when things don't go his way, I frankly wouldn't want to be his realtor. Especially if I was married to his ex who doesn't have a high opinion of him. Matt isn't the type to admit he may have overpriced the place or made an error - he'll just blame the realtor. Much the way the property isn't worth 4 million until it actually sells for that amount, the realtor doesn't earn anything if it doesn't sell.

2. Chris certainly sells well per Zillow but he pretty much sells residential homes, and usually not over 1.6 million or so. If I have learned anything from Million Dollar Listing, it's that higher end properties sell differently than lower end properties. Its farmland in part and a bit of a specialty sale. If Chris has no experience selling farmland or higher end properties, I wouldn't risk the profit if I were Matt. 

3. Its not small money we're talking about. Its not always wise to mix family with business opportunities - especially when the family situation is already awkward. 

Now my interesting thought if the day is this:

If pumpkin season is so hard on Matt that he is constantly stressed by it,,,,I know this will sound CRAZY but,,,, why not just stop doing it? None of the kids are interested in taking it over. The show really doesn't focus on it. Why not just end the business? Matt can do projects about the farm as he likes. As it is, he's talking out of both sides of his mouth about pumpkin season. He's selling the property with most of the pumpkin season activities and preparations because he's so damn worn out and tired of doing all the maintenance etc. But at the same time he is telling people he will continue to do pumpkin season on the wedding barn part of the property which will certainly entail a lot of work... work that he's too tired/exhausted to even want to do. 

But seriously why not just close the pumpkin season business?

[LilyD]

19 hours ago, Absolom said:

That all would cost a lot of money and I would enter negotiations thinking deductions from the price for having to remediate all that stuff.  I don't think Matt is seeing this from the more average usage person point of view. 

Your post about what you'd do to the property made me laugh but yeah, you are absolutely right. Those things need to be fixed. However, I doubt you could use it as leverage to get a deduction. On the contrary, Matt would probably add an extra million to the asking price because you dared to suggest tearing everything down....

[Absolom]

On my current house I got about 10% for all I was going to have to repair/redo.  I don't know what the market will be like when Matt actually sells, but it isn't uncommon.  A lot of it depends on the market.  It's a negotiation tactic.

[chenoa333]

6 hours ago, Redrum said:

If pumpkin season is so hard on Matt that he is constantly stressed by it,,,,I know this will sound CRAZY but,,,, why not just stop doing it? None of the kids are interested in taking it over. The show really doesn't focus on it. Why not just end the business? 

Yes! And TLC should just end this boring shitshow. 

I can go to Instagram to watch any of them making fools of themselves.  

[Dibs]

I distinctly remember reading (and posting here) that Matt raised the countertops and made all necessary repairs to the attractions before putting it on the market, which any savvy seller would automatically do (it's unlikely another dwarf family with five children is going to wander by and buy it) and any decent realtor would advise a seller to do.

The Arnold-Kleins did the same to their custom-designed house before selling and, as I recall, that took a while, too...  Maybe some buyers don't want the notoriety???

The market for it, of course, would be as a bed-and-breakfast which, ironically, was Amy's "dream job" for most of her life.  There are ample fans to keep it in business.

But I concur that he's probably just testing the market and maybe also trying to light a fire under some of his progeny who CLAIM to want it so badly.  If they're sufficiently distressed at the prospect of losing it, maybe they - and their wives - put aside their differences and come together to make it happen.  That would be an ideal solution.  But Zach's impulse purchase and then Jeremy's finding the perfect forever home/farm put an end to that scheme.  Now I'm sure he's just waiting out the contract and figures if he gets $4m out of it or close to it, it's all good.

It's not enough to just "stop pumpkin season"; he wants to retire.  Just keeping up that property is a full-time job.  Heck, I'm ready for a condo myself, and I own a little tiny house!

Edited July 12, 2022 by Dibs

[Redrum]

Sorry but the house tour and photos show the low set counters and grill in the kitchen and the microwave at knee level.

The problem with a bed and breakfast is that zoning laws come into play. I'd test the waters with doing airbnb rentals before I decided to rely on fan business. 

If Matt needs/wants to retire, as he has stated, then pumpkin season has to end. But his stated plan on the show and his Instagram is that pumpkin season will continue. So how is he retiring and making less work when his stated plan is to continue the business? I do not see how this becomes less work.

The twins jointly owning the property is a fantasy of Matt's that i don't think was ever seriously proposed beyond Matt saying it should happen. And frankly not sure I'd put all the blame on those pesky wives. Buying the farm as "the twins" means one family gets the house and one family gets the shit end of the stick.

[Dibs]

Eventually one could, theoretically, live in the farmhouse and the other in the perfectly respectable second house Matt is currently building, but neither Jeremy nor (especially) Zach seems to understand how to play the long game.  

Edited July 12, 2022 by Dibs

[Redrum]

So one family gets the big house and one family gets to wait until a) Matt builds his new house on the completely separate property and b) then Matt will at some point maybe sell them his house on the completely separate property. 

Not seeing how this is a deal. There's playing the long game and then there's getting screwed. This would all hinge on waiting for Matt to build and then sell the second house on the separate property. Why go  halfsies on the big house in the mean time?

[ginger90]

Matt has said he wants to retire. He isn’t retired. He’s attempting to sell part of the property. That’s a step toward retirement to me, and less work.

[b4pjoe]

5 hours ago, Redrum said:

Sorry but the house tour and photos show the low set counters and grill in the kitchen and the microwave at knee level.

The microwave at knee level is a trending thing in many houses. Many of the home renovation shows them in the island below the counter these days.

[SunnyBeBe]

Wouldn’t it be funny if someone who wants to be on a reality show bought the property and got a contract to be in the show?  Perhaps another realty show family……..hmmmm……

[Jeanne222]

11 hours ago, Dibs said:

I distinctly remember reading (and posting here) that Matt raised the countertops and made all necessary repairs to the attractions before putting it on the market, which any savvy seller would automatically do (it's unlikely another dwarf family with five children is going to wander by and buy it) and any decent realtor would advise a seller to do.

The Arnold-Kleins did the same to their custom-designed house before selling and, as I recall, that took a while, too...  Maybe some buyers don't want the notoriety???

The market for it, of course, would be as a bed-and-breakfast which, ironically, was Amy's "dream job" for most of her life.  There are ample fans to keep it in business.

But I concur that he's probably just testing the market and maybe also trying to light a fire under some of his progeny who CLAIM to want it so badly.  If they're sufficiently distressed at the prospect of losing it, maybe they - and their wives - put aside their differences and come together to make it happen.  That would be an ideal solution.  But Zach's impulse purchase and then Jeremy's finding the perfect forever home/farm put an end to that scheme.  Now I'm sure he's just waiting out the contract and figures if he gets $4m out of it or close to it, it's all good.

It's not enough to just "stop pumpkin season"; he wants to retire.  Just keeping up that property is a full-time job.  Heck, I'm ready for a condo myself, and I own a little tiny house!

As I remember Amy tested the waters with the b&b idea.  She had a couple there for an overnighter... Once.  I remember them out toasting marshmallows!

Amy found out that required work and washing the sheets each time they had guests.

That idea was ixnayed!  Lol. Work and Amy don't go together!

[SunnyBeBe]

I’m not sure if the zoning allows for it, but I do think the B&B is a good idea.  Wouldn’t many Roloff fans love to stay on the property, tour the grounds, visit the attractions, etc. It’s not too far out, but still quite peaceful looking.  And, like Dollywood, a chance you might get a quick siting of a Roloff.  Lol

[Redrum]

I'm honestly surprised they haven't done AirBNB with it, 

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

Does the north side of the property includes the pumpkin patch? So that means they are done with pumpkin season?  What if a developer comes in and demolishes everything and puts up trac homes? Not sure if there are stipulations in the purchase of a home or zoning. Could be a cool small vineyard and use the main house as a small wine tasting venue. 

[SunnyBeBe]

I’m not sure of the zoning.  I would like to see a detailed map of the farm.  I’ve seen diagrams before, but couldn’t figure it out.  If anyone knows of a good one, please post it.  NOT the address, just a diagram.  

Edited July 13, 2022 by SunnyBeBe

[CrazyInAlabama]

4 hours ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

Does the north side of the property includes the pumpkin patch? So that means they are done with pumpkin season?  What if a developer comes in and demolishes everything and puts up trac homes? Not sure if there are stipulations in the purchase of a home or zoning. Could be a cool small vineyard and use the main house as a small wine tasting venue. 

Sadly, whatever is in the zoning can always be amended, if a county government is developer friendly, or wants the extra taxes from a subdivision, zoning can be changed.    

[Dibs]

Actually, it was during an anniversary trip back to where they first met that Matt worked very hard to make special which included not only hooking Amy up with a chef in a fancy restaurant to explore her culinary ambitions, but also a stay in a BnB where Amy was allowed to shadow the owner to see what that goal of hers would look like in real life.  She no likey!  Too much work.  Matt was trying to be romantic, and Amy was her nasty, bitter self.  I believe it was during dinner on this trip that Matt said, "I don't think all marriages go through this; I don't think this is normal."

After that effort, I believe, he was done.

As for whether or not the pumpkin patch is for sale,  I heard Chris mention on this last episode that the farmhouse side includes "the original pumpkin patch," so there must now be another on the other side of the property.

Edited July 13, 2022 by Dibs

[SunnyBeBe]

4 hours ago, Dibs said:

Actually, it was during an anniversary trip back to where they first met that Matt worked very hard to make special which included not only hooking Amy up with a chef in a fancy restaurant to explore her culinary ambitions, but also a stay in a BnB where Amy was allowed to shadow the owner to see what that goal of hers would look like in real life.  She no likey!  Too much work.  Matt was trying to be romantic, and Amy was her nasty, bitter self.  I believe it was during dinner on this trip that Matt said, "I don't think all marriages go through this; I don't think this is normal."

After that effort, I believe, he was done.

As for whether or not the pumpkin patch is for sale,  I heard Chris mention on this last episode that the farmhouse side includes "the original pumpkin patch," so there must now be another on the other side of the property.

I recall that!  Matt said something like, You look lovely and I love you and Amy snarled and snapped back with some kind of insult. Lol. I hope that was scripted, because if not, it was beyond brutal.  
 

Does anyone know what is causing Matt to have paralysis in his feet and legs?