The GCEh?C: Canadian Episodes (Spoilers for Non-Canadians)

[peacheslatour]

17 minutes ago, Diane M said:

 What is happening to Dina?  I read that Ashley and Jack say goodbye to her on the next episode.

She's going back to Paris to live with Abby. Talk about the blind leading the blind.

[Diane M]

Oh, nuts!  I love Dina and now we probably won't see her again.  Dina has been very popular from all the comments I've read. Nice way for the writers to anger their viewers.

[boes]

41 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

She's going back to Paris to live with Abby. Talk about the blind leading the blind.

Dina hasn't been through enough?  Now she has to spend her last days with that numbskull?  

[peacheslatour]

12 minutes ago, boes said:

Dina hasn't been through enough?  Now she has to spend her last days with that numbskull?  

I highly doubt Abby is equipped in any way to deal with someone who needs professional care as much as Dina does. If I were Jack, Ashley and Traci there would be no way in the world I would allow my poor, dementia ridden mother fly half way around the globe to live with a lame brained twit like Abby. If something happens to Dina, it will completely be on her idiot children.

[pearlite]

34 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I highly doubt Abby is equipped in any way to deal with someone who needs professional care as much as Dina does. If I were Jack, Ashley and Traci there would be no way in the world I would allow my poor, dementia ridden mother fly half way around the globe to live with a lame brained twit like Abby. If something happens to Dina, it will completely be on her idiot children.

Yup, and with the scrapings we're being fed with this recent bunch of episodes, this tragic, rushed, inept-seeming resolution to the only solid storyline is as good as we're getting.

Unless, of course, BillyAss & PhillyAss breaking into Jack's office to cavort and consume his stash of bubbly and Belgian chocolates is your idea of a great watch. [cue the elevator joke]

Or perhaps a reprise of the Tessa's a bit skeezy storyline just suits you to a T.

But wait...there's more! JT and the pills! Was it all too good to be true? [In some universe]

The show is falling into a horrible new pattern.

[miamama]

It's all just so abrupt and makes no sense. Dina wanted only Jack or Ashley with her. She would not tolerate any help, any staff. Though she forgot who Ashley was and thought Jack was John most of the time. So that was silly in and of itself. But Jack wasn't willing to let her go. Then all of a sudden on a Skype call Abby, who is WORKING in Paris, suddenly comes up with this idea that Dina can hang with her and within the day Dina is on a plane to Paris. I mean WHAT?

This is the kind of thing that happens when a new writer comes in and does a 180 because he or she doesn't give a fuck.

As a viewer, I feel like show just yanked Dina away after a promise of something very different. They had a battle over her in court FFS. That's what is so maddening. Nothing indicated she would suddenly disappear to fucking Paris with that fucking twit Abby. Nothing. It wasn't even suggested at any point as an option (Paris I mean). Like maybe Dina talked about Paris or her life there or something.

Is this what Mal means by the viewers won't see what's coming? Writers just suddenly decide to completely shift direction mid-story?

Why not have her in the background more. Like she lives at the mansion, maybe with Traci, while Jack and Ashley have Jabot issues but we see touching and painful scenes of them coping with their mother. Once a week maybe.

And then it's more natural and when she goes the viewers have some lead up. But here she's all front burner in silly shocking stories and then boom, gone.

ugh. I'm actually bereft. I love Marla.

[Toomuchsoap]

20 hours ago, miamama said:

So after Jack couldn't leave his mother for one minute, to the point he was going to lose Jabot to his insane sister, he just says, okay mom go live in Paris with Abby?

WTF?

WTF indeed. Since I haven't seen this episode yet, what actually occurred? Did they decide to let Abby take care of her? This was the woman they were going to institutionalize last week before Graham spirited his bride off to the GCAC and wound up on the floor with a poisoned hypodermic in his wrist. And they want Abby to have responsibility for her? While her physician(s) are there, and it's really the home she's known most of her adult life, does it seem even remotely reasonable to them to proceed in that direction? And what happened in Paul's investigation of Graham's accidental death at Dina's hand in her own self-defense?

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Talk about the blind leading the blind.

Don't you mean the blonde leading the blonde?

Edited January 20, 2018 by Toomuchsoap

[Diane M]

Since I can't see this episode until Monday, I'm super curious to know whether our inept POC realized that Dina killed Graham.  If so, there goes a murder trial for Ashley.

[miamama]

13 minutes ago, Toomuchsoap said:

WTF indeed. Since I haven't seen this episode yet, what actually occurred? Did they decide to let Abby take care of her? This was the woman they were going to institutionalize last week before Graham spirited his bride off to the GCAC and wound up on the floor with a poisoned hypodermic in his wrist. And they want Abby to have responsibility for her? While her physician(s) are there, and it's really the home she's known most of her adult life, does it seem even remotely reasonable to them to proceed in that direction? And what happened in Paul's investigation of Graham's accidental death at Dina's hand in her own self-defense?

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I only read a recap so I haven't seen it. My understanding is that Traci was going to arrange 24-hour care once they reach France. But why not in GC? So what if Dina got excited about Paris? In five minutes she'll think Jack is a toddler again and assume her home is GC.

Can someone recap for us?

[Capricasix]

I’ll try - honestly the whole thing was a combination of boring and WTF? so I might miss bits here and there.

Jack was skyping with Abby, and Dina heard her voice and came in and wanted to talk to her. They talked about Paris and how wonderful it was, and Abby invited Dina to come and stay with her for a while, maybe in Dina’s house.Abby said she had called a bunch of people like the housekeeper and Dina’s doctor, and was starting to interview in-home caregivers. Rationale being that Dina would be happier in the city she loved.

So Jack and Ashley were initially resistant to the idea of letting her go, but then Traci offered to go with her, and they decided that would be a good idea. Dina went upstairs to pack her bags and came down a little while later to ask Jack for help with her luggage, and she thought he was John and said that it was really better this way (obviously she was thinking about when she left him for good). Jack was very emotional, but just played along with it, and then when she turned to go back upstairs, it reminded me so much of the last time Jeanne Cooper walked up the stairs. Maybe that was intentional on MY’s part (but somehow I doubt it!)

[NeverLate]

It was a mess, the whole thing. As Dina talked to Jack, (calling him John), it certainly sounded like that's the last we will see of her.

, I don't want to see anymore of JT and  Victoria, for some reason they irritate me, but why is he taking medication???

[miamama]

10 minutes ago, Capricasix said:

I’ll try - honestly the whole thing was a combination of boring and WTF? so I might miss bits here and there.

Jack was skyping with Abby, and Dina heard her voice and came in and wanted to talk to her. They talked about Paris and how wonderful it was, and Abby invited Dina to come and stay with her for a while, maybe in Dina’s house.Abby said she had called a bunch of people like the housekeeper and Dina’s doctor, and was starting to interview in-home caregivers. Rationale being that Dina would be happier in the city she loved.

So Jack and Ashley were initially resistant to the idea of letting her go, but then Traci offered to go with her, and they decided that would be a good idea. Dina went upstairs to pack her bags and came down a little while later to ask Jack for help with her luggage, and she thought he was John and said that it was really better this way (obviously she was thinking about when she left him for good). Jack was very emotional, but just played along with it, and then when she turned to go back upstairs, it reminded me so much of the last time Jeanne Cooper walked up the stairs. Maybe that was intentional on MY’s part (but somehow I doubt it!)

Thanks. sigh.

[Diane M]

Thanks for the info.  I find it odd that Dina can leave GC when Graham's death hasn't been resolved.  

[NeverLate]

9 minutes ago, Diane M said:

Thanks for the info.  I find it odd that Dina can leave GC when Graham's death hasn't been resolved.  

Yes, I said the same thing. It's like they missed a huge part of the storyline.. Sigh

[NinjaPenguins]

Again, I read in a magazine that this Dina storyline is "deeply personal" to Mr. Young. I'd hate to see how things would end if he didn't give a crap.

[UsernameFatigue]

29 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Again, I read in a magazine that this Dina storyline is "deeply personal" to Mr. Young. I'd hate to see how things would end if he didn't give a crap.

The last few days (OK, who am I kidding - weeks) the storyline with Dina is giving me whiplash. She thinks Graham is Brent Davis. Then she knows he is her husband. She also continues to think that Jack is her husband John, and gives messages to give to absent son Jackie. But she knows that Tracey and Ashley, who are the same age as "John", are her children. Alzheimers is deeply personal to many people, and Mr. Young is making a farce out of the disease. 

[NeverLate]

2 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

The last few days (OK, who am I kidding - weeks) the storyline with Dina is giving me whiplash. She thinks Graham is Brent Davis. Then she knows he is her husband. She also continues to think that Jack is her husband John, and gives messages to give to absent son Jackie. But she knows that Tracey and Ashley, who are the same age as "John", are her children. Alzheimers is deeply personal to many people, and Mr. Young is making a farce out of the disease. 

Same here. I did see an article where Marla said she was exhausted playing this part, and one comment said this was exactly how her parent was. Perhaps, each case is very very different, and it's hard to tackle( I would think) in a soap such as this one..jmho

[UsernameFatigue]

22 hours ago, NeverLate said:

Same here. I did see an article where Marla said she was exhausted playing this part, and one comment said this was exactly how her parent was. Perhaps, each case is very very different, and it's hard to tackle( I would think) in a soap such as this one..jmho

I have had both a friend (early onset) and several relatives that have Alzheimers or have passed from the disease.I agree that each case is different, but still think the storyline was very poorly done. Add in Dina burning down the Underground, stabbing Nikki, kidnapping a toddler, (I think I am leaving some stuff out) and I think the writers did the disease a disservice. 

OTOH, one of the few reasons I am still watching the show is Marla as she is a breath of fresh air in a sea of stale actors. I hope they find out that Dina was being drugged, didn't have Alzheimers at all, and returns to GC in all her glory. If she really is gone, I may not be far behind. 

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[NeverLate]

I was also hoping that was the case, once Graham was dead,that Dina would be fine.But after Friday, I'm not so sure. I thought some of the things Dina did were OTT, but I'm wondering if all they had, was a person with Alzheimer's, how that would appeal to the masses, without getting too maudlin. Perhaps it would of been far better to leave the subject alone altogether. Again jmho.

[basiltherat]

Perhaps this grueling storyline was too much for Marla and she asked for it to end sooner than later?  Whichever way, I really appreciated her and would not want her to hurt her health over this crapass show.  Might as well go out a diva, Madame M!

[IOU Payne]

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I don't want to see anymore of JT and  Victoria, for some reason they irritate me, but why is he taking medication???

A clickbait spumour I read on line was that he was dying and that's why he was rushing the relationship.  My theory is that he has opiods, which will soon be ingested by either Reed, Katie or Johnny.  

But it could be Viagra.  Whatevs.

Edited January 21, 2018 by IOU Payne
Speling is gud.

[boes]

3 hours ago, IOU Payne said:

A clickbait spumour I read on line was that he was dying and that's why he was rushing the relationship.  My theory is that he has opiods, which will soon be ingested by either Reed, Katie or Johnny.  

But it could be Viagra.  Whatevs.

Dying?  Could he share those pills with ButtBiscuit?

Please please please please PLEASE!!!!!!!

[miamama]

11 hours ago, basiltherat said:

Perhaps this grueling storyline was too much for Marla and she asked for it to end sooner than later?  Whichever way, I really appreciated her and would not want her to hurt her health over this crapass show.  Might as well go out a diva, Madame M!

I wouldn't want her to push it either if she doesn't want to but in every interview I have read she said she wanted to do it for as long as she could. I would think being front burner with all those lines would be a lot to do but that is something Mal could easily accommodate. In any case I find it highly unlikely Marla is the reason the storyline went the way it did. I mean she's not a stan and people don't make Dina videos, so. RME.

10 hours ago, IOU Payne said:

A clickbait spumour I read on line was that he was dying and that's why he was rushing the relationship.  My theory is that he has opiods, which will soon be ingested by either Reed, Katie or Johnny.  

 

It'll probably go this way so Billy can be right that Victoria made a bad relationship choice and put HIS kids in danger. And then he and Phyllis can have sex in the hospital waiting room. I don't think they've done it there yet, right?

[NeverLate]

13 hours ago, IOU Payne said:

A clickbait spumour I read on line was that he was dying and that's why he was rushing the relationship.  My theory is that he has opiods, which will soon be ingested by either Reed, Katie or Johnny.  

But it could be Viagra.  Whatevs.

I suspect he is sick, I'm not so sure about opioids...

[valleycliffe]

if jt has an opioid addiction, could it be getting worse?

wild mood swings?  aggressiveness when he needs another pill?

could he overdose while living with nikki?

s/l could go any which way.

[pearlite]

3 minutes ago, valleycliffe said:

if jt has an opioid addiction, could it be getting worse?

wild mood swings?  aggressiveness when he needs another pill?

could he overdose while living with nikki?

s/l could go any which way.

Yes, it could.

BUT, do we need another PSA/Social Issue storyline at the mo? Couldn't we just have some character-development? Something engaging?

[MollyB]

17 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

this Dina storyline is "deeply personal" to Mr. Young.

15 hours ago, NeverLate said:

I'm not so sure. I thought some of the things Dina did were OTT, but I'm wondering if all they had, was a person with Alzheimer's, how that would appeal to the masses, without getting too maudlin. Perhaps it would of been far better to leave the subject alone altogether.

I think it is safe to say that a majority of people have a 'deeply personal' experience with Alzheimer's/dementia*.  We live longer and these are age related diseases (exception: early-onset Alzheimer's). There are many ways to deal with it and MY has not researched it enough to pick a course and stay with it.  He just throws a new approach to care and "typical" behaviours (burning bars, kidnapping, stabbing!) that he thinks creates drama.  Shame on him for making Alzheimer's a gimmick to play off his equally disgusting treatment of relationships via Philly, Scabby, Messa, etc., the list goes on and on.  You don't need me to tell you that whatever the court determined (I'm assuming they awarded 'custody' to Jack and Co.) does not mean they get to do whatever they want with Ma.  The best interest of the person comes first and the custodian is obligated to consult with professionals re her care.  Or be removed as custodians.  If MY is so deeeeeply and personally involved with anyone with Alzheimer's then he would have handled this a lot better.  It is a story he never should have told.

Fuck Mal Young and his lazy, inept writers.  (Because it cannot be said enough.)

* [For me it was my mother-in-law.  My husband and brother-in-law refused to accept that any thing was wrong with Mom, but my sister-in-law had a degree in Sociology and focused on elder-care, so Mom was well cared for once we convinced our spouses to recognize it for what it was.]

[Toomuchsoap]

14 hours ago, IOU Payne said:

A clickbait spumour I read on line was that he was dying and that's why he was rushing the relationship.  My theory is that he has opiods, which will soon be ingested by either Reed, Katie or Johnny.  

But it could be Viagra.  Whatevs.

Well, a few years ago, JT was struck by lightning IIRC. He was out in some sort of wild storm and rescued Sharon after her car was washed off the road or hit a tree or something when she was in one of her manic flights or something. The lightning strike damaged his heart and he was in pretty bad shape for a while and he had to stop doing whatever it was he used to do, I guess he was working for Paul then, but I forget. Anyway, he subsequently moved to D.C. when he married Mac.  Maybe his heart condition is why he's taking medication.

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* [For me it was my mother-in-law.  My husband and brother-in-law refused to accept that any thing was wrong with Mom, but my sister-in-law had a degree in Sociology and focused on elder-care, so Mom was well cared for once we convinced our spouses to recognize it for what it was.]

A lot of the ability to "recognize" cognitive disorders such as dementia and Alzheimer's is proximity and daily presence in the person's life. Early on, the symptoms are subtle and people in cognitive decline adopt coping mechanisms to mask issues they'd rather others not perceive. My mother (and my father before her) both managed to hide their cognitive decline - for a while. My brother and I were working in stressful jobs and didn't really spend a lot of time with them. The first time I realized something was "up" with my father was after he had been really, really ill with the flu in the winter before he more or less fell off the cliff in the spring. I noticed something was really off about him in February of that year, and by April he was really 'round the bend. My brother and I consulted with his internist, who told us that in the elderly, there are subtle (to the observer) changes to cognition and behaviors that continue on a manageable plateau as long as there isn't some sort of major illness, injury or life-altering event, after which the relative equilibrium that the person had was totally disrupted.

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[peacheslatour]

47 minutes ago, Toomuchsoap said:

Well, a few years ago, JT was struck by lightning IIRC. He was out in some sort of wild storm and rescued Sharon after her car was washed off the road or hit a tree or something when she was in one of her manic flights or something. The lightning strike damaged his heart and he was in pretty bad shape for a while and he had to stop doing whatever it was he used to do, I guess he was working for Paul then, but I forget. Anyway, he subsequently moved to D.C. when he married Mac.  Maybe his heart condition is why he's taking medication.

A lot of the ability to "recognize" cognitive disorders such as dementia and Alzheimer's is proximity and daily presence in the person's life. Early on, the symptoms are subtle and people in cognitive decline adopt coping mechanisms to mask issues they'd rather others not perceive. My mother (and my father before her) both managed to hide their cognitive decline - for a while. My brother and I were working in stressful jobs and didn't really spend a lot of time with them. The first time I realized something was "up" with my father was after he had been really, really ill with the flu in the winter before he more or less fell off the cliff in the spring. I noticed something was really off about him in February of that year, and by April he was really 'round the bend. My brother and I consulted with his internist, who told us that in the elderly, there are subtle (to the observer) changes to cognition and behaviors that continue on a manageable plateau as long as there isn't some sort of major illness, injury or life-altering event, after which the relative equilibrium that the person had was totally disrupted.

This is why I was terrified to be around my dad when I had the flu that's been going around this year. I am afraid a really bad infection or virus will push him into the abyss.

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[NinjaPenguins]

I think Young probably should have left the dementia stuff alone if he felt he had to zazz it up with stabbings, arson, and kidnapping. There really is nothing but sadness and loss to be found in that well, interspersed with poignant family moments. As much as I would despise another gaslighting story, it probably would have been better to go with Graham drugging Dina senseless instead of this abruptly ended hot mess. Plus it's kind of gross to plunk down such a well-acted, serious storyline in the middle of a bunch of classless trash like Philly, Scabby, and Lane. The cheap thrills of gaslighting are a better fit for Young's vision.

[pearlite]

32 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

I think Young probably should have left the dementia stuff alone if he felt he had to zazz it up with stabbings, arson, and kidnapping. There really is nothing but sadness and loss to be found in that well, interspersed with poignant family moments. As much as I would despise another gaslighting story, it probably would have been better to go with Graham drugging Dina senseless instead of this abruptly ended hot mess. Plus it's kind of gross to plunk down such a well-acted, serious storyline in the middle of a bunch of classless trash like Philly, Scabby, and Lane. The cheap thrills of gaslighting are a better fit for Young's vision.

On the nose, NP!

Right now, the show is a horrible mix, and MY seems to be out of his depth.

[miamama]

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Plus it's kind of gross to plunk down such a well-acted, serious storyline in the middle of a bunch of classless trash like Philly, Scabby, and Lane. 

What an excellent summation of the show under Mal. 

1 hour ago, pearlite said:

Right now, the show is a horrible mix, and MY seems to be out of his depth.

yep. He is. 

[NeverLate]

I keep forgetting, but did Devon actually say to Mariah, the only way I can see who is telling the truth ( between thieving Tessa and Mariah) is to read her journal!? WTF! No...who says that? 

[bannana]

I have finally watched Friday's episode.  As impractical and illogical as the ending to Dina's story was, there were some great moments, especially from Marla.  I will really miss her Dina.

At the beginning of the ep, Dina is very blue.  She doesn't remember Graham's death.  Dina asks "John" why he is there since they are divorced.  She thinks she is supposed to be on a cruise with Brent, then gets upset because she realizes it wasn't Brent, it was someone else.  Dina thinks Tracey is her nurse.  From upstairs, Dina starts calling out for Graham.  Jack, Tracey and Ash are all distressed about her situation.  Jack and Ash argue about how to deal with her.  Ash wants to tell her that Graham is gone. Ash suddenly takes the position that they should remind her of things she has forgotten in order to help her hang on to her memories.  (In my family's case that definitely didn't work, and just distressed my mother more.)  Tracey finally tells the two of them it doesn't matter, because whatever they  tell her she will forget it in five minutes.  Later in the episode, after Dina's rest, she hears Abby's voice on Skype and recognizes it.  Jack is sitting in front of the computer, and Dina rushes into the living room, elated to see Abby.  When Dina finds out that Abby is in Paris, she PHYSICALLY PUSHES JACK OUT OF HIS CHAIR, so she can speak to Abby.  Hahaha!!!  PB laughed in a way that I think MA took him by surprise with that.  Abby tells Dina that she is in Paris and Dina starts to reminisce, and tells Abby the things she should see and do.  Then Abby, without having discussed it first with her mom and aunt and uncle, invites Dina to come stay with her in Paris. Dina is completely overjoyed at the idea and says she is going upstairs to pack.  She asks "John to contact the travel agent and see if there are any seats on the Concorde!  And then she SQUEALS with joy.   Jack et al then tell Abby that her idea is nice, but foolhardy, and she should not have mentioned it to Dina.  Then Abby says she has thought this through and has already been planning for it.  She has spoken to Dina's housekeeper, who gave her her Doctor's name, and she has spoken with her doctors, as well.  She says they can both live in Dina's home together.  Really, when did she do all this?  Right after she parted ways with Scott like five minutes ago?  Tracey says she will accompany Dina and she can write from Paris just as well as from GC.  They will get round the clock care for Dina and she will be so much happier in her true home.  So it is settled.  Everyone implies that it is not permanent, and that Dina will return to GC.  Jack worries if she will even recognize any of them if and when she does.  Dina is ready to leave and she calls from the stairs:  yoo hoo, John.  I love it!  She then has the convo with "John", and it is about her leaving him way back when.  Jack plays along and it is truly a touching moment.  She tells "John" that he is better at taking care of the family and the children will be better off.  She tells him to tell Jackie that she has to leave, and that she says she knows Jackie will grow up to be a wonderful man, just like John.  Jack hugs Dina, and it made me teary.  Dina's goodbye with Ash touched on their difficult relationship but with a little humour so that was nice.  Jack and Ash look out the glass door, and Ash appears to comfort Jack.  There was no mention of charges against Dina or Ash for Graham's death.  There was some mention of legal work that Mikey was doing on the MPOA and the will that is no longer necessary with Graham's death.  Then just a few minutes later, Mikey arrives and Ash says it is game on with the arbitration. Mikey was hoping that with everything that happened they would just drop it but Ash says, no, too much has been said and done by both of them, and they cannot go back.  She's a cold one.

The episode was also remarkable for the lunacy in the other storylines.  Philly are at Jack's office and have raided his private stash of expensive champagne, and they are positively chortling about it.  Oh, but they have to pick up his kids in 27 minutes and bring them to Vic's house.  They can't drive so they say they will hire a car, and then say they have just enough time to do it in the elevator on the way to the car.  And they take the champagne with them.  Blech.  When they arrive at Vic's Billy sees JT's suitcase and blurts out:  Are you moving in.  Vic is upset because she wanted to have a chance to tell the kids properly.  Phyllis thinks it is a good idea and she takes the kids to watch a video upstairs.  Vic realizes that Phyllis is just being supportive because she is jealous and wants Vic with another man.  Vic also thinks Billy reacted the way he did because he is jealous.  Billy and JT have words.  JT throws his words back at him.  He warns JT about hurting Vic.  Then Vic and Billy have words and he says he is just worried about her.  He pretends to be supportive but later tells Phyllis he is not supportive and is worried that JT will hurt Vic.  Vic tells JT that she is truly happy, the happiest she has been in a long time (what about sailor boy?).  Then we see JT taking some sort of medication.  I personally don't like JT and I don't think they make a very good couple.  There is the extra ick factor of the RL actors being divorced.  

Mariah is upset that the show where she went off on Tessa is still on the website, but Hilary said her blow up was good for ratings.  Hil tries to dig about who Mariah is writing about, and she seems to believe it is Devon.  At HWG, Devon confronts Tessa, and Noah is also there and wants to know the truth.  Tessa LIES LIES LIES with nary a flinch.  She never took the journal, those are her own words, and Mariah probably recognizes them from conversations that the two of them had.  Devon presses, and wants to know who the song is about, but she dodges.  He makes her swear that she is telling the truth, and she does, and he says he will stand by her.  Noah the dope says the same.  So he believes Tessa over Mariah.  Back at the studio Devon tries to talk to Mariah but she is very upset with him, that he doesn't believe her.  He doesn't see Tessa as a thief, and Mariah reminds him of the handgun theft.  He wants to READ HER JOURNAL to solve the mystery.  She is outraged.  He is torn, and asks her what he can do to make it right, and she says, don't release the song.

[crowsworks]

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 Then Abby says she has thought this through and has already been planning for it.  She has spoken to Dina's housekeeper, who gave her her Doctor's name, and she has spoken with her doctors, as well.  She says they can both live in Dina's home together.  Really, when did she do all this?  Right after she parted ways with Scott like five minutes ago?  Tracey says she will accompany Dina and she can write from Paris just as well as from GC.  They will get round the clock care for Dina and she will be so much happier in her true home.  So it is settled.  Everyone implies that it is not permanent and that Dina will return to GC.  Jack worries if she will even recognize any of them if and when she does.  Dina is ready to leave and she calls from the stairs:  yoo hoo, John. 

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But Tracy couldn't write in GC?  Meanwhile, Abby will return after she passes away - with a 5-month-old baby or a belly out to here - just in time to break up Scott's wedding with someone. Let MA take a rest and return when the drugs Cracker wear off.

[MollyB]

16 hours ago, bannana said:

Ash suddenly takes the position that they should remind her of things she has forgotten in order to help her hang on to her memories.  (In my family's case that definitely didn't work, and just distressed my mother more.) 

She can't hang on to something that doesn't exist for her anymore.  Alzheimer's brain is like an onion that is slowly being peeled layer by layer.  Each layer is the memories and the more recent memories are the outer layers.  As the memories fall away, the person is living in the only world they now know so trying to 'help' them remember something that just is not there results in fear/panic for the victim and frustration/anger for the loved ones.  This topic is for a LifeTime Movie. Shouldn't be on a soap opera, especially when it is written by insensitive aholes.  The same people aholes that brought us this:

16 hours ago, bannana said:

The episode was also remarkable for the lunacy in the other storylines.  Philly are at Jack's office and have raided his private stash of expensive champagne, and they are positively chortling about it.  Oh, but they have to pick up his kids in 27 minutes and bring them to Vic's house.  They can't drive so they say they will hire a car, and then say they have just enough time to do it in the elevator on the way to the car.  And they take the champagne with them.

Wow.  Where's a Parent Of The Year award when you need it?  Two people who are probably inebriated by legal standards and just fucked in an elevator are going to take care of kids? How very responsible of them to hire a car and bring the booze. What the fuck is wrong with you, Mal??  The only thing you are fit to write is an infomercial for penis enlargement.

 

16 hours ago, bannana said:

He wants to READ HER JOURNAL to solve the mystery. 

Isn't this one of the 7 signs of an abusive relationship?

[NinjaPenguins]

So Devon trusts Mariah enough to be intimate with her but can't believe her when she says her journal was stolen? Makes sense.

[basiltherat]

The same Darvon the Accidental Billionaire who did NOT have a pre-nup when he married the troublemaker Hilary chooses to once again believe the wrong person.  It's a damned miracle he has a sou left!

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Ok is it just me or is the actress who plays Hillary seriously losing weight....she looked very gaunt in that purple dress today.

[valleycliffe]

i saw a pic of her and yeah, she has lost weight..

i thought she already had a rockin bod with the curves in all the right places and now she is on the verge of being straight up and down..

guess there is lots of pressure for actresses cause they can be replaced by a newer younger thinner model...

and if she is losing so much weight, i hope it's by her choice and not management..

[DivaT]

Other ladies are losing weight. CG had lost alot of weight too. So has MTS. I also wondered if it was management. 

Devon needs to just say he doesn't care if it was stolen. He just wants a hit record to save his company. Cause that's what this is. 

 

It's not like he owes Mariah anything. I haven't forgotten how she cheated on him and made a fool of him behind his back despite the show turning this story upside down to make everyone Mariah wronged during her finding herself into the villains now. 

Edited January 23, 2018 by DivaT

[NeverLate]

I really like how Phyllis wears her hair, and the colour. I had hoped she and Ravi would become a couple. I find him very handsome, and the two showed an undeniable chemistry at one time, never forced , as it was with Ashley

What hair did Reed cut, I thought they meant his whole head!

Sharon, is she working in a coffee shop, or a lounge?.

Hillary has looked thin for awhile, I do think some clothes make her look thinner than others, I don't believe Victoria eats, she's way too thin, and what did she jeep tossing her pony tail around for, or, is that her acting..

Mariah suing Devon, good luck with that..

[UsernameFatigue]

The annoying thing about Devon is that he told Mariah that she would have to prove that Tessa stole her journal and copied her words. Then when Mariah does just that, Devon says it doesn't matter because the words were not copyrighted. This is the guy who told Mariah that he was with her because she was so honest, and the opposite of Hillary. Devon is no better than Hillary. Not that I should expect him to be, since he slept with father's wife, then married her. 

I guess the hit song is more important than integrity, including that of his singer who lied to his face. The song could be rewritten with different lyrics, keeping the same music. Which IMO is what makes a hit. Heck, there are songs that are hits - and that I love - and I couldn't tell you the words if my life depended on it. Many songs I thought I knew the lyrics to, then saw them in writing and was way off. Lol. 

[basiltherat]

Hold Me Closer, Tony Danza

and

Bathroom on the Right

to name some misunderstood lyrics.

[peacheslatour]

26 minutes ago, basiltherat said:

Hold Me Closer, Tony Danza

and

Bathroom on the Right

to name some misunderstood lyrics.

Once, when my son was little he inquired why Alanis Morrissette was given a "cross eyed bear".

[valleycliffe]

11 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Once, when my son was little he inquired why Alanis Morrissette was given a "cross eyed bear".

another one was "everytime you go away, you take a piece of meat with you". :]

[bannana]

Chelz is upset that the now discontinued perfume that Adam gave her got broken and is gone forever, because whenever she wore it, she would have all these memories of Adam.  Oh Nick, you are so gone.  Sharon and Chelz talk about Adam in reverent terms.  Which in itself is just weird, the two of them talking about Adam and Nick. Is Show bringing Adam back, with all these mentions it seems like maybe they are?  But then Nick manages to find a bottle of Chelz' discontinued perfume, and she is all happy again, that she can spritz herself with memories of Adam.  Good move, Nick.  Wonder if he knows.

Hilary goes baby shopping, or at least sperm donor shopping, online after visiting her doc.  And she is going to let a major media co buy her out.  Devon suggests that she sell to HWG, cause they make a good team.  She is going to think about it.

Ash and Jack duke it out in arbitration.  Ash believes that Jack played dirty whilst she told the truth and nothing but the truth.  But she played dirty too, she just doesn't remember or admit it.  

[Capricasix]

1 hour ago, basiltherat said:

Hold Me Closer, Tony Danza

and

Bathroom on the Right

to name some misunderstood lyrics.

‘Scuse Me while I Kiss this Guy!

[UsernameFatigue]

2 hours ago, basiltherat said:

Hold Me Closer, Tony Danza

and

Bathroom on the Right

to name some misunderstood lyrics.

You guys are killing me - lol!! 

Several years ago hubby and I went to an Elton John concert here in our hometown. Hubby is not as into music as I am, and Elton has been one of my all time favourites since the very early 70s. This concert sold out in less than ten minutes (the days before ticket buying bots) and I was lucky enough to get ticktets by basically asking for the worst tickets available. Which turned out to be the best - right behind Elton, who was alone on stage with no band, just his piano. (One of the best concerts -ever!). There was a monitor in front of him on the floor which was rolling the words to his songs. After reading the lyrics of several songs as Elton sang them, my hubby turned to me and said "The lyrics make no sense". Lol. 

The moral of this story is that Tessa could also write lyrics that make no sense, if she could write music like Elton John. 

Edited to add: " I can see clearly now Lorraine is gone". 

Edited January 23, 2018 by UsernameFatigue

[jewel21]

It's only been a few years that I realized it wasn't "there's a bathroom on the right," heh.

Also, bye, Ashley! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!