Spoilers and Speculation

[SimoneS]

TSDF has a new leak. Carol and Ezekiel are getting married or their marriage will be revealed in episode 6 or 7. I think more likely episode 7 after the time jump of 5 or 6 years after Rick's death. I just remembered that there are two time jumps. Their marriage would work with either.

Edited August 3, 2018 by SimoneS

[OoohMaggie]

20 hours ago, Gobi said:

The Wild West weapons are more likely to be reproductions than originals, as used by the re-enactors Nashville mentioned.

I was thinking more of the genuine ones that people have in collections and museums, It’ll be interesting to see just how far the show moves away from firearms and how far they go down the Mad Max route.

Edited August 3, 2018 by OoohMaggie

[OoohMaggie]

5 hours ago, WalkerTalker said:

In the za society peeps should be searching for brass cartridge cases to trade for goods. 

There must be huge amounts of raw materials at the arms factories, just waiting for an enterprising group to turn up, im sure Haircut could get production moving again.

[scrb]

1 hour ago, SimoneS said:

TSDF has a new leak. Carol and Ezekiel are getting married or their marriage will be revealed in episode 6 or 7. I think more likely episode 7 after the time jump of 5 or 6 years after Rick's death. I just remembered that there are two time jumps. Their marriage would work with either.

Marriage on TWD?

 

What a dumb gimmick it would be.

[SimoneS]

4 minutes ago, scrb said:

Marriage on TWD?

 

What a dumb gimmick it would be.

I don't think that it is a gimmick. Ezekiel and Carol's relationship has been slowly moving in that direction. It wouldn't be the first marriage. I loved Glenn and Maggie's "wedding." And Rick and Michonne pretty much got married when they were on their scavenging trip.

[scrb]

24 minutes ago, SimoneS said:

I don't think that it is a gimmick. Ezekiel and Carol's relationship has been slowly moving in that direction. It wouldn't be the first marriage. I loved Glenn and Maggie's "wedding." And Rick and Michonne pretty much got married when they were on their scavenging trip.

What would be the point of a marriage in a post-apocalyptic world?

So that they have legal rights over each other like power of attorney?  Or they can have rights to community property?

If it's about love, what does marriage have to do with it?  ;)

[Nashville]

5 minutes ago, scrb said:

What would be the point of a marriage in a post-apocalyptic world?

So that they have legal rights over each other like power of attorney?  Or they can have rights to community property?

If it's about love, what does marriage have to do with it?  ;)

Exclusive commitment, maybe?  Just a thought.  ;)

[SimoneS]

10 minutes ago, scrb said:

What would be the point of a marriage in a post-apocalyptic world?

So that they have legal rights over each other like power of attorney?  Or they can have rights to community property?

If it's about love, what does marriage have to do with it?  ;)

For Glenn and Maggie, their marriage was an expression of love and commitment to one another. Clearly marriage would take on a different meaning given the post-apocalyptic state of their world. This is consistent with what we know about how humans have adapted to their environments from their beginning as a species. Marriage has always existed in some form among human cultures. It hasn't always been about legal rights which is a very modern European version of marriage.

[scrb]

21 minutes ago, SimoneS said:

For Glenn and Maggie, their marriage was an expression of love and commitment to one another. Clearly marriage would take on a different meaning given the post-apocalyptic state of their world. This is consistent with what we know about how humans have adapted to their environments from their beginning as a species. Marriage has always existed in some form among human cultures. It hasn't always been about legal rights which is a very modern European version of marriage.

Another reason is religion.

And before the 18th or 19th century, it was more about the aristocracy or kings promising their daughters to the son of another king, to form diplomatic alliances..

 

Fortunately, they haven't had any depictions of religion on TWD.

[SimoneS]

1 minute ago, scrb said:

Another reason is religion.

And before the 18th or 19th century, it was more about the aristocracy or kings promising their daughters to the son of another king, to form diplomatic alliances..

 

Fortunately, they haven't had any depictions of religion on TWD.

At its core, marriage primarily exists in all human cultures is because it bonds individuals and their families (biological and non-biological) together. Humans have to live together to survive in our environment and our odds of survival improve if we build relationships with others and marriage is one way of achieving this. In the a  post-apocalyptic world, I would think marriage would become important again for that reason as well as a symbol of people's love for each other and not legal rights or religion.

[OoohMaggie]

1 hour ago, scrb said:

What would be the point of a marriage in a post-apocalyptic world?

Maybe it would give a semblance of normality, a small step on the path to returning to a world  which is about more than battling walkers or killing other survivors. What better way to celebrate the end of a ‘War’ than to bring some joy and happiness into the proceedings. The smallest thing in the face of adversity can mean so much.

[scrb]

Just now, OoohMaggie said:

Maybe it would give a semblance of normality, a small step on the path to returning to a world  which is about more than battling walkers or killing other survivors. What better way to celebrate the end of a ‘War’ than to bring some joy and happiness into the proceedings. The smallest thing in the face of adversity can mean so much.

But they already did that with Glen and Maggie and the births of the infants.

So they're going to the well again?

[nodorothyparker]

There's a quiet little scene in the same season 6 episode where Glenn rolled under a conveniently placed dumpster between Michonne and an Alexandria red shit about this.  He'll get bit and die before the episode's over but before that, he tells her that marrying in the ZA was important to him because it was about being connected to another living person and actually living and hoping as opposed to just existing.  That seems as good a reason as any when everything else is pretty much gone.

The show used to manage nice little moments like that. 

[OoohMaggie]

6 minutes ago, scrb said:

So they're going to the well again?

That wasn’t your question

[Nashville]

25 minutes ago, scrb said:

But they already did that with Glen and Maggie and the births of the infants.

So they're going to the well again?

Well, subsequent events may have put a little dent in that perception....

[AngelaHunter]

2 hours ago, scrb said:

If it's about love, what does marriage have to do with it?  ;)

Marriage has a lot to do with it, IMO. As others have said, it's a statement, a public committment two people make to each other. To me, it would have meaning even in an apocalypse, even if the meaning is only important to the two people involved.

 

1 hour ago, nodorothyparker said:

The show used to manage nice little moments like that.

Yes, it did but it's not possible to have those little relatable, human moments when everyone is obsessed with Negan and with making speeches. All normal, human interaction (remember the women washing clothes in the quarry, talking about things they missed and sounding like real human beings?) has been put by the wayside in favour of a cartoon waving a bat around.

[mightysparrow]

1 minute ago, AngelaHunter said:

Marriage has a lot to do with it, IMO. As others have said, it's a statement, a public committment two people make to each other. To me, it would have meaning even in an apocalypse, even if the meaning is only important to the two people involved.

 

Yes, it did but it's not possible to have those little relatable, human moments when everyone is obsessed with Negan and with making speeches. All normal, human interaction (remember the women washing clothes in the quarry, talking about things they missed and sounding like real human beings?) has been put by the wayside in favour of a cartoon waving a bat around.

I'm not a Carol fan by any stretch of the imagination but I can see why she and Zeke would get married.  Both have lost loved ones and have sunk to the depths of despair.  If they decide that they care enough for each other to want to be together and spend whatever life they have together, I think that's a good thing.  It's like screaming 'LIFE' in the face of death.  It would be a symbol of hope for their communities and gives Jerry a chance to sing, recite a poem or do some other lovely thing.

[raven]

42 minutes ago, mightysparrow said:

If they decide that they care enough for each other to want to be together and spend whatever life they have together, I think that's a good thing.  It's like screaming 'LIFE' in the face of death.

This is as good of a reason as any for a Carol/Ezekiel marriage.  It's actually something I would look forward to and not just because it

43 minutes ago, mightysparrow said:

gives Jerry a chance to sing, recite a poem or do some other lovely thing.

Though this is no small incentive, for sure!

One of the many problems with this show has been the lack of hope, good things, what have you, for any length of time.  So I (cautiously) look on this as a good thing.

[Nashville]

58 minutes ago, mightysparrow said:

I'm not a Carol fan by any stretch of the imagination but I can see why she and Zeke would get married.  Both have lost loved ones and have sunk to the depths of despair.  If they decide that they care enough for each other to want to be together and spend whatever life they have together, I think that's a good thing.  It's like screaming 'LIFE' in the face of death.  It would be a symbol of hope for their communities and gives Jerry a chance to sing, recite a poem or do some other lovely thing.

Except... the true message of TWD is “Everything Dies”, so screaming such is, like, begging on bent knee for one of them to be offed in some suitably spectacular fashion....

[AngelaHunter]

1 hour ago, Nashville said:

Except... the true message of TWD is “Everything Dies”, except Negan, who is immortal and whose very presence turns marksman into the "Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight"

Fixed.

[Ocean Chick]

Well, that seals it for me that Zeke's gonna die soon.  Carol can't have any happiness, after all.  That'll be her storyline for this season - finding a non-abusive husband and then mourning him when he dies.  Maggie 2.0, without becoming a leader.  I just she manages to get him to cut his hair - those dreds are as much a zombie grabbing hazard as Michonne's are.

[WalkerTalker]

On 8/3/2018 at 11:42 PM, Ocean Chick said:

Well, that seals it for me that Zeke's gonna die soon.  Carol can't have any happiness, after all.  That'll be her storyline for this season - finding a non-abusive husband and then mourning him when he dies.  Maggie 2.0, without becoming a leader.  I just she manages to get him to cut his hair - those dreds are as much a zombie grabbing hazard as Michonne's are.

Yeah, remember in Red Machete that is how the younger sibling got nailed by the walkers. They grabbed her long hair. She didn't even have dreads. 

[Morrigan2575]

Why did I think it was a wig? 

[Anela]

On 8/3/2018 at 5:42 PM, scrb said:

But they already did that with Glen and Maggie and the births of the infants.

So they're going to the well again?

What well? 

I say, go Carol!! I like Ezekiel. He gave her space, but also showed up to see her every so often. He helped her friends, fighting Negan. He was smart enough to get an entire community thriving in that hell. Kept it together as long as he could. 

I remember spoilers from the comics, and who Ezekiel ended up with there, as well as what happened. I hope they don't kill him off, unless the actor wants to be let go. The reminder that Carol can't be happy, will probably end up being true.

Edited August 5, 2018 by Anela

[SimoneS]

4 hours ago, Anela said:

I remember spoilers from the comics, and who Ezekiel ended up with there, as well as what happened. I hope they don't kill him off, unless the actor wants to be let go. The reminder that Carol can't be happy, will probably end up being true.

When Khary Payton advocated for Lauren Cohan getting paid in her negotiations with AMC, I figured that he did so because he knows that Ezekiel is dying soon. I hope that I am wrong.

[rab01]

Did anyone else watch the preview show last night?  I kind of liked the scene between Daryl and Carol talking about Ezekiel and that the actors were making fun of Norman Reedus for refusing to ride a horse.  Also, it was interesting that they were so open about Rick's departure but very little or no discussion of Maggie leaving. 

Kang was a pleasant departure from Kirkman or Gimple on the couch but she seemed a bit too much a fan/cheerleader for a showrunner.  Also, YNB was pretty funny but even more "look at me" than Hardwick.

(p.s. - This probably isn't the right thread but I finally watched the last 5 episodes of last season over the weekend and all of you who were insulting those episodes were ... too kind.  That was some really dumb garbage imitating a TV show. I really hope that Kang sees the flaws in the show and tries to fix them because I guess I haven't quit the show yet.)

[OoohMaggie]

2 hours ago, rab01 said:

I really hope that Kang sees the flaws in the show and tries to fix them because I guess I haven't quit the show yet.)

I don’t want to spoil your day, but Kang co-wrote six episodes in season 8, two of which were in the last five, unfortunately that awful finale was one of them! 

If she really is free of ‘The Gimps’ influence, we can only hope that complete control will be enough to make a positive difference and that her contributions to the writing were the good parts Lol

[nodorothyparker]

 

Clip from the preview special.  I do like that they're having these two longtime characters talk to each like actual people while also on the face of it at least laying the rumors of the renewed shipping nonsense to rest.  It's almost reminiscent of when the characters did still talk to each other and behave like normal people.  So that's something, I guess.

I had the special on in the background while I was doing other stuff, so I admit I wasn't paying a ton of attention when they were fangirling hard over Tom Payne, who appears to have inherited Carl's departed hair.  They seem awfully anxious to assure everyone that the show is going to survive Andy Lincoln leaving and that it's all going to be just as good as it ever was.  I found the lack of any mention about Lauren Cohen exiting rather interesting too.

[SimoneS]

That promo does give me hope, hope that those fucking monologues are a thing of the past and the characters actually start having conversations like they used to before Negan showed up. If this happens, the show will improve by a million percent. 

[OoohMaggie]

Latest photos

 

Edited August 7, 2018 by OoohMaggie

[Smad]

On 6.8.2018 at 10:55 PM, nodorothyparker said:

 

Clip from the preview special.  I do like that they're having these two longtime characters talk to each like actual people while also on the face of it at least laying the rumors of the renewed shipping nonsense to rest.  It's almost reminiscent of when the characters did still talk to each other and behave like normal people.  So that's something, I guess.

That was...nice. Almost felt old school, especially when she called him Pookie. And they really did sound like normal people for a change. I don't trust it though. It could very well be that it all starts well and then goes horribly wrong. Season 6 anyone? And while having the characters be like human beings again would certainly be nice, it still doesn't say anything about storytelling, structure, plot etc.

I still have no plans to watch again but I will follow the live chat and episode discussion. If anyone is left who watches so they actually write in those threads.

[AngelaHunter]

1 hour ago, Smad said:

And they really did sound like normal people for a change. I don't trust it though.

IMO? A day late and a dollar short. It's as though someone woke up and said, "Oh, shit! The fans are totally fed up. Are we going to have to make the remainder of CDB actually speak to each other like human beings? Anyone remember how to do that?"

"Oh, gee... it's been so long and we're only used to writing rousing but boring speeches, dreary, endless yet meaningless monologues and impotent threats. What do you want from us?"

"Well, remember a long, long time ago all the fans wanted Daryl and Carol to get together but we decided to make them brother and sister, or mother and son (because after all if a woman is a couple years older than the guy she's a mother figure. Anything else is, like, totally squicky, right?)? Maybe they can talk, y'know, the way people really talk? The way they used to back in the olden days?"

"How do people really talk? We don't remember how to write actual back and forth con-ver-sations between original cast members! Wahhh! We'll take a crack at it, but no promises. First we'll go pencil in how many times Negan is going to lean back and talk about dicks and balls or allude to masturbation in the premiere. Prime importance, so chop chop!!"

"Hey - you know that awesome pome of Negan's? "My ballsack is made of steel"? I wrote that. A little appreciation here, please."

"Hurrah! Well done! Bravo!"

Back pats all around.

[OoohMaggie]

Now that Ricks Atlanta horse ‘Blade’ has been confirmed for a reappearance in S9, in a different role obviously, it’s the perfect excuse to show this old photo again. 

Nex, apparently he’s going to be Sugarlumps (Tara’s) steed, where’s Apollo when you need him? Lol

 

 

 

Edited August 9, 2018 by OoohMaggie

[SimoneS]

Michonne, Rick, and grown Judith

 

Michonne with a grown Judith.

Edited August 9, 2018 by SimoneS

[OoohMaggie]

‘TDog’ has just given an interview over on Comicbook and one of his comments about the show was “the writing is still superb”

Im sure that slating your previous employer may not be the wisest thing to do with regards to future employment, yet I wonder who, if anyone will be the first to admit that we’ve been subjected to some shockers over the not too distant past, Superb IronE?

[Cherokee Rose]

On ‎8‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 7:37 AM, OoohMaggie said:

Now that Ricks Atlanta horse ‘Blade’ has been confirmed for a reappearance in S9, in a different role obviously, it’s the perfect excuse to show this old photo again

Great photo, OoohMaggie. I never saw it before. And you know the horse's name, too! Is there anything in TWD universe you don't know. lol. Apollo would indeed enjoy the news. Guess Tara will be around for a while then.

I'm so conflicted about S9, with Rick and Maggie leaving... almost makes me feel like I'm losing the whole show. I must say the only season I've looked forward to less than S9 is S7.

I saw the comic con preview on TV today; and it looked very good.... but, I still feel like I'm losing the family. Like it's the end of an era. I feel like I'll be watching S9 to say goodbye to the show. Not sure I want to see a "re-do" of the show, like they've done in other "Dead" shows. Seems to create a totally new show instead.

Great prelude for the whisperers, though. Looks like Rick's vision of peace belongs to him alone, and no one else. lol. What's new?  Like no one is getting along at all. At least a time jump will make Judith more pertinent, though only to lose her dad... Wonder how much they regret killing Carl now? Though I'm a big Daryl fan, just can't see him as leading the ensemble.

Looks like a lot of fun in the colonial setting, and seems to have them back in Atlanta too. I know you and I had discussed (way back!) our desire to see some urban settings utilized. Can't believe it's so close to the new season. Hope it's a good one, but it'd take a lot to sooth my conflicted emotions.

[OoohMaggie]

10 hours ago, Cherokee Rose said:

Is there anything in TWD universe you don't know

Yeah, most of it lol, I’d be lost without Wiki Walking Dead it’s a mine of useless information.

glad to have you back  it’s seems like an age, I’ve had a bit of a downer on the show recently, I’ve never been a Rick fanatic but his leaving is the closest thing to a show killer you could get, coupled with the beautiful one leaving it couldn’t get much worse.

the preview does look promising but how often have we said that? I think the front eight really will be a do or die for the show but I’m giving new runner Kang a fair shot at putting a smile on my face, if she can salvage something from the mess left by ‘The Gimp’ she’ll be a star!

i think Daryl will continue mumbling and looking moody, Kang has said the women will be the leads in the show which is a good move and yes, the little house on the prairie look will be interesting. The whole Whisperer idea leaves me cold, I’d much rather follow up on Georgie,dumb and dumber and exactly what the helicopter has got to do with Jadis.

Edited August 13, 2018 by OoohMaggie

[WalkerTalker]

11 hours ago, OoohMaggie said:

Yeah, most of it lol, I’d be lost without Wiki Walking Dead it’s a mine of useless information.

glad to have you back  it’s seems like an age, I’ve had a bit of a downer on the show recently, I’ve never been a Rick fanatic but his leaving is the closest thing to a show killer you could get, coupled with the beautiful one leaving it couldn’t get much worse.

the preview does look promising but how often have we said that? I think the front eight really will be a do or die for the show but I’m giving new runner Kang a fair shot at putting a smile on my face, if she can salvage something from the mess left by ‘The Gimp’ she’ll be a star!

i think Daryl will continue mumbling and looking moody, Kang has said the women will be the leads in the show which is a good move and yes, the little house on the prairie look will be interesting. The whole Whisperer idea leaves me cold, I’d much rather follow up on Georgie,dumb and dumber and exactly what the helicopter has got to do with Jadis.

I really want to learn what the helicopter is all about. We saw it the first time back in Atlanta. We deserve to find out about it. Also, its link to Jadis. It is nice to have CR back again.

Rewards has videos to watch in Activities. They are worth another 300 points. Get out there ASAP, they don't stay up long. Go forth earn points, buy merch. 

[SnarkyTart]

From The Spoiling Dead Fans Army facebook page:

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Spoiler Grab Bag

Anyone hungry for some spoilery morsels? Keep reading for a mixed bag of spoiler delights. Read at your own risk. There will be deaths mentioned. We are still tracking all of this information, but we do believe it to be accurate at this time. Big thanks to our sources!

- Our ray of sunshine Aaron will run into some bad luck and lose an arm in episode 3 or 4.

- Arat and Regina are dead (RIP badass ladies that we don’t know very well)

- Negan is out of his cell and hanging out around the woods.

- Lydia has been cast. She will be played by actress Cassady McClincy.

- The Whisperer arc seems to be following the comics pretty close so far. Henry appears to have become Carl 2.0 and it seems he is taking over his comic arc with Lydia.

- Our sweet Jesus has recently died. We aren’t sure if his death will in occur in episode 8 or 9. We don’t have details of his death right now other than the Whisperers are involved.

Aaron loses an arm, Jesus dies, Henry is Carl 2.0 (thus becoming a major cast character), and Negan is out on walkabout.  Meet the new showrunner, same as the old showrunner.  What a pantload!

[peach]

6 minutes ago, SnarkyTart said:

Henry is Carl 2.0 (thus becoming a major cast character)

Hell to the no.

And Jesus dying will somehow be all about Tara. 

[Gobi]

6 hours ago, peach said:

Hell to the no.

And Jesus dying will somehow be all about Tara. 

Don't worry, three days later he'll be back.

[nodorothyparker]

I saw those spoilers on my way out the door this morning.  I have only the vaguest idea about comic stuff as I don't read them and the rest ... well, I could only shrug.  

16 minutes ago, Gobi said:

6 hours ago, peach said:

And Jesus dying will somehow be all about Tara. 

Don't worry, three days later he'll be back.

LOL.  Despite how hyped Jesus was, the show has never figured out what to do with him or his dumb nickname.  That's usually a death knell for a character.

[Fellaway]

6 hours ago, SnarkyTart said:

Our sweet Jesus has recently died.

Geez, they barely did anything with him, now they're killing him off?  Don't he and Aaron hook up in the graphic novels?  The one thing I was looking forward to...

[raven]

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Spoiler Grab Bag

Anyone hungry for some spoilery morsels? Keep reading for a mixed bag of spoiler delights. Read at your own risk. There will be deaths mentioned. We are still tracking all of this information, but we do believe it to be accurate at this time. Big thanks to our sources!

- Our ray of sunshine Aaron will run into some bad luck and lose an arm in episode 3 or 4.     More bad CGI on the way

- Arat and Regina are dead (RIP badass ladies that we don’t know very well)  Who?

- Negan is out of his cell and hanging out around the woods.  Oh FFS, of course he is.  Our long national nightmare will never end.

- Lydia has been cast. She will be played by actress Cassady McClincy.  Who?

- The Whisperer arc seems to be following the comics pretty close so far. Henry appears to have become Carl 2.0 and it seems he is taking over his comic arc with Lydia.  Oh FFS, of course he is.  Our long national nightmare will never end.

- Our sweet Jesus has recently died. We aren’t sure if his death will in occur in episode 8 or 9. We don’t have details of his death right now other than the Whisperers are involved.   Maybe I can replace my Easter pic then.

 

 

I had a glimmer of hope but not so much now.

[Anela]

22 minutes ago, Fellaway said:

Geez, they barely did anything with him, now they're killing him off?  Don't he and Aaron hook up in the graphic novels?  The one thing I was looking forward to...

That's probably when it will happen, since I thought someone said they were going to hook up. Aaron gets to lose someone else, and an arm. 

[Mr. Sparkle]

1 hour ago, nodorothyparker said:

Despite how hyped Jesus was, the show has never figured out what to do with him or his dumb nickname.  That's usually a death knell for a character.

Completely miscast. They got the hair right, though. 

[SimoneS]

I cannot believe that they are killing off one of the longer supporting characters so soon after Rick's death and Maggie's departure. We barely have gotten to know anything about Jesus even though he has been around so long. All so they could give precious airtime to Negan's endless monologues. This show has forgotten that they need to develop characters so we care when they die.

I find it difficult to believe that AMC is paying for the CGI weekly for Aaron's missing arm. They have killed him off instead.

Edited August 16, 2018 by SimoneS

[LydiaMoon1]

Who?  This is my response to the casting of Lydia as well. I don't read the graphic novels. That name means nothing to me. Most of the GA don't read the comics, so I doubt the news will generate any kind a excitement among the remaining audience.  This is a problem. The show seems to have forgotten that TWD is a TV show written for a general audience. Ever since the intro of Negan, they seem to be writing to satisfy the viewership niche that reads the comics.  As a GA member, all I care about are the characters that I've followed for years. Now that they've either killed off or are about to write out a majority of those characters, I'm like....meh.  Lydia who? Henry? Who cares? Negan? Just die already! And so on.

My enthusiasm for this show is rapidly approaching zero.

[peach]

29 minutes ago, LydiaMoon1 said:

The show seems to have forgotten that TWD is a TV show written for a general audience. Ever since the intro of Negan, they seem to be writing to satisfy the viewership niche that reads the comics.  As a GA member, all I care about are the characters that I've followed for years. Now that they've either killed off or are about to write out a majority of those characters, I'm like....meh.  Lydia who? Henry? Who cares? Negan? Just die already! And so on.

 

Exactly.  Why should I care if Henry gets Carl's comic arc?  I don't care about the comic arc, I care about Carl.  It's irrelevant to me what Henry does or who he does it with.  I was only watching occasionally, and I stopped when I found out they were killing Carl.  Now once they get rid of Rick, Maggie, etc, now some other regular characters, why would I even read the synopses? 

[AngelaHunter]

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Lydia has been cast.

Lydia? Who she?

Lydia, oh, Lydia

Oh have you seen Lydia?
Lydia, the taaatooed lady!

Pardon me. That just slipped out.

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She will be played by actress Cassady McClincy. 

Who? times two.

As for Jesus, he was kind of a useless irritant at the end, especially dragging in all those POWs. He should have been told, "You brought them here. It's your job to feed and care for them."

Negan will skulk in the woods? Really? Are we going to have Little Riding Hood joining the cast? Gee, I hope so.