Catelynn (and Tyler)

[poopchute]

What is Catelyn's hair? She has it all pulled back in a ponytail but deliberately keeps one greasy hunk out of the ponytail and pasted to her forehead.  It's such an odd choice. She looks like Shit.

[TeenMomAngerMgmt]

I know it's been a couple pages, but this is always how I have read the situation with Kim and Catelynn:

7th grade babby Tyler brings Catelynn home. Kim immediately assesses her as drama and a terrible choice, but she also knows that if she out and out forbids the relationship they'll Romeo and Juliet their way into it. So she bit her tongue hoping things would run their course as middle school relationships do with a minimum of fuss and drama. I assume she probably talked to Tyler about protection and such, but it obviously fell on deaf ears. The only other vaguely parental figures were Butch and April, so they were probably 0 help at all. IIRC, Cate basically had to live with Kim off and on because of the fighting at her home. 

Then Catelynn get pregnant, and Kim knew right then that both Cate and the ensuing baby would be basically her sole financial obligation. Stevie Wonder could see that neither Cate nor Tyler were ready for parenthood and to say that the circumstances were "less than ideal" would be the understatement of the decade. 

Based on the information she knew at the time (16&P would be a one-time thing, plus a reunion special), the push for adoption was objectively the best choice. Kim probably hoped that the relationship would end soon after that, but MTV had other ideas. Now here we are. 

I think Kim resents Catelynn. I think she knows that it's unfair that she resents her, but she does. I think she knew from day 1 Cate would be trouble and she probably second guessed her decision to let them be together. 

[Brooklynista]

2 hours ago, TeenMomAngerMgmt said:

I know it's been a couple pages, but this is always how I have read the situation with Kim and Catelynn:

7th grade babby Tyler brings Catelynn home. Kim immediately assesses her as drama and a terrible choice, but she also knows that if she out and out forbids the relationship they'll Romeo and Juliet their way into it. So she bit her tongue hoping things would run their course as middle school relationships do with a minimum of fuss and drama. I assume she probably talked to Tyler about protection and such, but it obviously fell on deaf ears. The only other vaguely parental figures were Butch and April, so they were probably 0 help at all. IIRC, Cate basically had to live with Kim off and on because of the fighting at her home. 

Then Catelynn get pregnant, and Kim knew right then that both Cate and the ensuing baby would be basically her sole financial obligation. Stevie Wonder could see that neither Cate nor Tyler were ready for parenthood and to say that the circumstances were "less than ideal" would be the understatement of the decade. 

Based on the information she knew at the time (16&P would be a one-time thing, plus a reunion special), the push for adoption was objectively the best choice. Kim probably hoped that the relationship would end soon after that, but MTV had other ideas. Now here we are. 

I think Kim resents Catelynn. I think she knows that it's unfair that she resents her, but she does. I think she knew from day 1 Cate would be trouble and she probably second guessed her decision to let them be together. 

All of this.  I see Cate and Kail as the same person.  Two girls from shitty homes who glommed onto guys with a decent home life and never let go.

[TeenMomAngerMgmt]

4 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

All of this.  I see Cate and Kail as the same person.  Two girls from shitty homes who glommed onto guys with a decent home life and never let go.

Except I have to give Kail some credit in the sense that she is capabale(ish) of standing on her own. Has Catelynn ever really been without Tyler, ever? I know there was the "cheating" incident way back in the day but, otherwise, they have basically been up each other's asses the entire time. Catelynn NEEDS Tyler in a super unhealthy way. She cannot be without him. If Tyler did finally decide to say "fuck it, I'm out" she would spiral out of control. She may be 25 now, but mentally she is still the 13 year old girl she was when they met. It will be ugly, and Nova and Not-Carley-Pt-Deux would be caught up in that cycle. 

[Brooklynista]

3 minutes ago, TeenMomAngerMgmt said:

Except I have to give Kail some credit in the sense that she is capabale(ish) of standing on her own. Has Catelynn ever really been without Tyler, ever? I know there was the "cheating" incident way back in the day but, otherwise, they have basically been up each other's asses the entire time. Catelynn NEEDS Tyler in a super unhealthy way. She cannot be without him. If Tyler did finally decide to say "fuck it, I'm out" she would spiral out of control. She may be 25 now, but mentally she is still the 13 year old girl she was when they met. It will be ugly, and Nova and Not-Carley-Pt-Deux would be caught up in that cycle. 

I can totally agree with this. Kail has a spark. For whatever i think of the hosebeast shes not content to lay around and be a useless lump like Cate.  Single Kail will be just fine. Single Cate? Shes going to be the biggest mess when this show goes off the air and Tyler can make his escape.

[Scarlett45]

2 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

I can totally agree with this. Kail has a spark. For whatever i think of the hosebeast shes not content to lay around and be a useless lump like Cate.  Single Kail will be just fine. Single Cate? Shes going to be the biggest mess when this show goes off the air and Tyler can make his escape.

 

2 hours ago, TeenMomAngerMgmt said:

Except I have to give Kail some credit in the sense that she is capabale(ish) of standing on her own. Has Catelynn ever really been without Tyler, ever? I know there was the "cheating" incident way back in the day but, otherwise, they have basically been up each other's asses the entire time. Catelynn NEEDS Tyler in a super unhealthy way. She cannot be without him. If Tyler did finally decide to say "fuck it, I'm out" she would spiral out of control. She may be 25 now, but mentally she is still the 13 year old girl she was when they met. It will be ugly, and Nova and Not-Carley-Pt-Deux would be caught up in that cycle. 

I quoted you guys out of order but I wanted to chime in. I agree that Kailyn has a lot more ambition and drive than Cate does, BUT I think Cate is probably a kinder, more empathetic human being in the long run. 

If we had taken those girls as babies and given them stable/loving homes, Cate would be more like Chelsea, Kailyn I think would still be shrill, thinking the world owed her something. 

[SPLAIN]

I don't know. Has Kail ever been on her own without some guy in her life? She wasn't even legally separated before moving on to a new guy. When she and Jo broke up, there she was with Jordan. She may not be stuck on one guy like Catelynn, but she is hardly one I would think is on her own or can be without someone. When she didn't have a guy to steal from or take something from, she took from her mother. What she has now is not due to any hard work. A big part of it is due to marrying someone who had the benefits and the credit. It is due to marrying a guy. Kail has hardly spent any quality time without someone's dick near her as a support of some kind. 

 

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I think Cate is probably a kinder, more empathetic human being in the long run. 

I used to think so until I saw how cruel and mean she can really be, especially on the reunion shows. The way she fucks with her followers, as she recently admitted, comes off very mean and petty. Not to mention so immature.

Catelynn  commenting on the after-show last night how she and Tyler spent five hours on social media as they laughed and mocked their followers who believed their pregnancy story, came off very malicious. 

Edited April 19, 2017 by SPLAIN

[Scarlett45]

1 minute ago, SPLAIN said:

I don't know. Has Kail ever been on her own without some guy in her life? She wasn't even legally separated before moving on to a new guy. When she and Jo broke up, there she was with Jordan. She may not be stuck on one guy like Catelynn, but she is hardly one I would think is on her own or can be without someone. When she didn't have a guy to steal from or take something from, she took from her mother. What she has now is not due to any hard work. A big part of it is due to marrying someone who had the benefits and the credit. It is due to marrying a guy. Kail has hardly spent any quality time without someone's dick near her as a support of some kind. 

Also I think Cate is a decent enough human being/had enough personality to form an emotionally intimate relationship with another person. While I could list out all the problems with her and Tyler's relationship, (trust me the list would be long) they do have an emotional relationship. I don't think kailyn has been emotionally intimate with anyone in her entire life. She's a user and an abuser. If she were a better human being she would be cool with being single because she wouldn't feel the need to use others. She could date and hook up and have fun- no one would get hurt. Even during their "hey day" she acted like she couldn't stand Javi sometimes. 

[Brooklynista]

1 minute ago, Scarlett45 said:

Also I think Cate is a decent enough human being/had enough personality to form an emotionally intimate relationship with another person. While I could list out all the problems with her and Tyler's relationship, (trust me the list would be long) they do have an emotional relationship. I don't think kailyn has been emotionally intimate with anyone in her entire life. She's a user and an abuser. If she were a better human being she would be cool with being single because she wouldn't feel the need to use others. She could date and hook up and have fun- no one would get hurt. Even during their "hey day" she acted like she couldn't stand Javi sometimes. 

I think Kail saw Javi as weak.  So while his weakness worked for her so she could control him, it was also the flaw that made her despise him. Kail is a predator. Monsters only respect other monsters and the soft heart that was Javi worked against them. I never bought into Javi being this sexist who wanted to control Kail. He was just a weakling who needed to puff up his chest against this Hulk entity.

[ginger90]

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Catelynn  commenting on the after-show last night how she and Tyler spent five hours on social media as they laughed and mocked their followers who believed their pregnancy story, came off very malicious. 

 

 

And not very normal. I didn't see the show. Did anyone comment about this? Stare blankly? Curse? Anything?

I bet they have gotten some tweets about it that we will never see.

[SPLAIN]

1 minute ago, ginger90 said:

And not very normal. I didn't see the show. Did anyone comment about this? Stare blankly? Curse? Anything?

No. I was stunned not only at her saying such a thing, but even more shocking that no one had anything to say in response as if it is the most normal thing in the world. 

6 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

I think Kail saw Javi as weak.  So while his weakness worked for her so she could control him, it was also the flaw that made her despise him. Kail is a predator. Monsters only respect other monsters and the soft heart that was Javi worked against them. I never bought into Javi being this sexist who wanted to control Kail. He was just a weakling who needed to puff up his chest against this Hulk entity.

I don't buy it either simply because he isn't sexist. I think that term gets thrown around a lot to describe certain actions. Certainly him being Latino seems to play into that assumption, as if all Latino men are these sexist ogres who are macho and expect their wives to be home pregnant. 

[AmyFarrahFowler]

2 hours ago, SPLAIN said:

I don't know. Has Kail ever been on her own without some guy in her life? She wasn't even legally separated before moving on to a new guy. When she and Jo broke up, there she was with Jordan. She may not be stuck on one guy like Catelynn, but she is hardly one I would think is on her own or can be without someone. When she didn't have a guy to steal from or take something from, she took from her mother. What she has now is not due to any hard work. A big part of it is due to marrying someone who had the benefits and the credit. It is due to marrying a guy. Kail has hardly spent any quality time without someone's dick near her as a support of some kind. 

 

I used to think so until I saw how cruel and mean she can really be, especially on the reunion shows. The way she fucks with her followers, as she recently admitted, comes off very mean and petty. Not to mention so immature.

Catelynn  commenting on the after-show last night how she and Tyler spent five hours on social media as they laughed and mocked their followers who believed their pregnancy story, came off very malicious. 

This really struck me as mean and malicious too. Between that statement and her behavior on the reunion show that went all kinds of wrong, she just seems to be the epitome of the "trashy bitch" that she called Farrah.

[ghoulina]

I think Kail is the type who always likes to have a man, but I don't think she depends on them. Other than using Javi for his benefits, she HAS been fairly self reliant. I think her need to always have a man is a status thing - like the nice cars and Pinterest house. With Cate, she is completely 100% co-dependent with Tyler. I actually don't even know if she could function if he left her. 

I do agree that Cate is likely not much nicer than Kail, though. She used to come off that way, but the curtain has been swept aside lately. She has an inner mean girl and she will absolutely throw you under the bus if she can get in with the "cool girls" (like Maci). I think she's actually pretty awful. 

[Scarlett45]

3 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

I think Kail is the type who always likes to have a man, but I don't think she depends on them. Other than using Javi for his benefits, she HAS been fairly self reliant. I think her need to always have a man is a status thing - like the nice cars and Pinterest house. With Cate, she is completely 100% co-dependent with Tyler. I actually don't even know if she could function if he left her. 

I do agree that Cate is likely not much nicer than Kail, though. She used to come off that way, but the curtain has been swept aside lately. She has an inner mean girl and she will absolutely throw you under the bus if she can get in with the "cool girls" (like Maci). I think she's actually pretty awful. 

I think Catelynn is kinder than Kailyn, but that's not saying much. She probably used to be a better person but fame went to her head.

I agree that Kailyn likes having a man for "status". Despite it being 2017 there is still a narrative that a woman's life is improved attached to a man. Kailyn will use anyone she can for resources and status but I don't think she's dependent on anyone for her emotional stability  

The only girl in this series I think would make a good friend/loved one is Chelsea. 

Edited April 19, 2017 by Scarlett45

[Caracoa1]

I wonder how often they have to buy a new couch?  Catelynn's body must be molded into the furniture after awhile!  And what's this bullshit about her being a stay at home mom when we all know Nova spends the majority of her time at April's because you know... Cate has a mental illness. A " mental illness" that only comes around when the MTV camera crew shows up!  But she is so lucky it doesn't hit her when she goes on MTV promotional tours and vacations!  She thinks she is hot shit now but wait and see how fast Maci ignores her texts and phone calls after the show ends and the money is gone.  She still has time to turn this mess around and save some money and get an education...But she is to busy being a "reality TV star".

[ginger90]

Nova is going to school now.

[poopchute]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Nova is going to school now.

So what are they doing all day?

[GreatKazu]

It seems Cate didn't even have an issue with Farrah until that therapy show they were on awhile back. During the reunion, Farrah decided to ask Tyler and Cate what was up with their dreams and goals that they constantly mentioned on this show. It was a fair question. It is one we all have mentioned from time to time over the seasons. It would not have been mentioned at all if those two had never said it. It went downhill as Cate decided to bring up Farrah's porn and throw it in her face as if she had committed some criminal act. Prior to that showdown, Cate wasn't on Maci's team when she had her own issue with Farrah's porn. She suddenly jumped on Maci's side only after Farrah dared to question Cate on camera about her life. 

[teapot]

18 hours ago, SPLAIN said:

 

Catelynn  commenting on the after-show last night how she and Tyler spent five hours on social media as they laughed and mocked their followers who believed their pregnancy story, came off very malicious. 

and, again, if you HAVE five hours in one day to spend on social media, you really need to re-evaluate your life choices.

6 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Nova is going to school now.

yay!  she gets to wear clothes and have people talk to her!!

[SPLAIN]

7 minutes ago, teapot said:

and, again, if you HAVE five hours in one day to spend on social media, you really need to re-evaluate your life choices.

yay!  she gets to wear clothes and have people talk to her!!

And we know it is more than just five hours a day. Watching Catelynn at the restaurant, she couldn't even keep her stubby fingers off of her phone. When her hands are not on food, they are on her phone. No life whatsoever.  I am lucky if I can come here and spend at least an hour to post and read comments on various shows. I am lucky if I can do that at least three times in a week. Catelynn is Jabba the Hutt with a phone stuck to her hand. 

[Marisagf]

Just watching now.  

When asked about why Butch was back in the slammer, Cate said he didn't want them to talk about it.  So they couldn't talk about it.  Shouldn't Theresa have had the same courtesy with stuff she didn't want them to talk about?

[TeenMomAngerMgmt]

4 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

It seems Cate didn't even have an issue with Farrah until that therapy show they were on awhile back. During the reunion, Farrah decided to ask Tyler and Cate what was up with their dreams and goals that they constantly mentioned on this show. It was a fair question. It is one we all have mentioned from time to time over the seasons. It would not have been mentioned at all if those two had never said it. It went downhill as Cate decided to bring up Farrah's porn and throw it in her face as if she had committed some criminal act. Prior to that showdown, Cate wasn't on Maci's team when she had her own issue with Farrah's porn. She suddenly jumped on Maci's side only after Farrah dared to question Cate on camera about her life. 

It's so interesting looking back at earlier seasons, too, because Farrah and Amber used to be really close while Catelynn tried desperately to be everyone's friend and Maci was there. 

I think the only thing that hasn't changed is that Maci is still there. 

[Christina]

2 hours ago, Marisagf said:

Just watching now.  

When asked about why Butch was back in the slammer, Cate said he didn't want them to talk about it.  So they couldn't talk about it.  Shouldn't Theresa have had the same courtesy with stuff she didn't want them to talk about?

Catelyn seemed willing to honor Theresa's wishes and I think, understood and agreed with them. Tyler didn't because Tyler didn't want that and only Tyler's wishes matter because Tyler is a narcissistic asshole who unable to see or understand the wishes of others. It was Cate and Tyler riling their fans up that caused those fans to harass Brandon and Theresa at home, church and work, and made them concerned that someone would approach her while at school or on a field trip because she was becoming recognizable due to Tyler's insistence that he post her photo online because she was his, and Brandon and Theresa are just long-term babysitters. 

[CofCinci]

9 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Nova is going to school now.

Why are they calling day care "school"? It's not school.  Just like Maci & Taylor and Jenelle & David, none of these parents work but they ship their children off to kid farms to avoid having to parent. Fuck these people. 

[ginger90]

This was Cate's response to a negative tweet about Nova attending school

Excuse me?!? She needs it for socializing b/c she's an ONLY child! I take it ur not a parent ??

[CofCinci]

She can go to a playgroup or gymnastics class or a toddler Nar-Anon meeting for socialization. 

[GreatKazu]

1 hour ago, CofCinci said:

Why are they calling day care "school"? It's not school.  Just like Maci & Taylor and Jenelle & David, none of these parents work but they ship their children off to kid farms to avoid having to parent. Fuck these people. 

I vote "fuck these people" be put at the end of each of our comments regarding C&T. 

[Christina]

My son is on the autism spectrum and needed pre-school not only for the socializing, but to become acquainted and comfortable with the experience before starting kindergarten. He knew his numbers, letters, could count and read sight words before starting preschool because he was gifted in that area, but it was very beneficial to him. I don't fault any parent for it, and realize that the issue here is that some are taking exception to the word "school" even though in my experience with my son, nephew and nieces, they actually do learn things like numbers, letters and colors along with how to deal with other kids in a group setting, as opposed to a daycare where they just play.

With the exception of Chelsea, Gary, Kail and Maci, I think ALL the kids could benefit from being away from their parents for a portion (or all) of the day. 

[CofCinci]

Daycare is not school.  They do not require licensed/educated staff.  They do not require curriculum and educational philosophies.  I'm sure there are many great daycares; however, I doubt Tyler and Catelynn did any research. The extent of their questions were probably which meals their kid would get fed by the daycare because they're too lazy. Their decision to enroll the kid was solely so that they can loaf around without throwing this kid a PB&J at Noon.

Edited April 20, 2017 by CofCinci

[msblossom]

Catelynn is creating a long-term problem/pattern by loafing around all day and isolating herself. At 25 she should be active and more social and either creating a positive environment at home or engaging in something outside the home. I get that she's depressed, and I don't believe for one minute that she completly stopped smoking weed. She inebriates herself with food, pot, and the internet. She needs a schedule, a routine, which is difficult for her because she wasn't raised with it, but damn, she's gonna ruin Nova if she doesn't push herself to do more than lay around. I don't see her trying and keeping a small part time job any time soon, which is fine--baby steps. But she could get up every morning at 7am and take a daily shower, get breakfast together for the 3 of them or take turns with Tyler, clean the kitchen and get herself into something other than couch clothes, and spend 10-15 minutes fixing her hair and applying a little mascara and lip gloss.(when you look better you feel better). Get Nova dressed and take the stroller just once around the block (the more frequently she spends a little time with Nova in the fresh air, the more she'll actually start looking forward to it and will take longer strolls, fake it til you make it). If she would commit to that every morning for a month she would find herself in a better place and willing to add a few more baby steps to her daily "routine".  She could enroll in a pottery or jewelry making classes or anything that brings her a little joy and gets her mind and body outside of her environment. I actually think she has the potential to be a good mom and live a happier life. I believe Tyler is the number one negative influence on her. He is a self-centered, snarky, negative little bitch and always gives her the impression that she's not good enough (which feeds into the mental torture she grew up with by being raised by an alcoholic). She isn't around enough positivity and joy on a regular basis.

[ginger90]

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She isn't around enough positivity and joy on a regular basis.

 

 

I agree but would add Nova and Tyler , too.

[Calm81]

12 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Nova is going to school now.

Nova is 3 months older than my daughter, so 2 years and 3 months. Do kids start school this early??? Am I behind? ??I'm a work from home mom and I'm not ready to send her off to school at two years old. ?

[teapot]

Preview clips:

http://www.mtv.com/video-clips/3lw9g9/teen-mom-sneak-peek-amber-and-gary-plan-leah-s-birthday

Tyler is just *over* Butch's shit.  Must be hard to want what someone's saying to be the truth and knowing that it just isn't. 

[Christina]

I took both Janelle and Catelyn's statements to be that they were enrolling their kids in preschool, not just daycare, and preschool does require licensed and educated staff. When my son went, the state only required an Associate's degree in early childhood education to be employed at a preschool as long as there was an actual State-Certified teacher that oversaw the program. At my son's preschool, the person who oversaw the program actually had a Doctorate in Education, but I think that his involvement started as part of his Ph.D. thesis study, because a few years after my son left, he was poached by another school district to be the principal of an elementary school. There was a time period that they were trying to require all preschools to have educators that had Bachelor's not just Associate's but since the schools couldn't pay them what they would make at elementary schools, it kind of stalled and I don't know what became of it or what the requirements are now.

Kaiser is definitely old enough to be in preschool and it looked like that is what she took him to in the one episode. I don't actually know Nova's age and don't care enough to go search Catelynn's timeline, because she is too frustrating, but if she is under three, I agree that she is probably in a regular daycare because I don't think preschool accepts kids younger.

8 hours ago, msblossom said:

I believe Tyler is the number one negative influence on her. He is a self-centered, snarky, negative little bitch and always gives her the impression that she's not good enough (which feeds into the mental torture she grew up with by being raised by an alcoholic). She isn't around enough positivity and joy on a regular basis.

Does she have any positive influences in her life? I think Theresa used to try but she has probably burned that relationship to ash. You never see her animals trying to comfort her, Tyler's mom hates her, it can't be her fingernails since she chews them up daily, maybe her weed dealer is new best friend. She probably thinks her social media fans are actually friends and she is doing all right because they say so. 

[ginger90]

I hope Tyler and Cate used at least some of their online time to research where ever Nova is going to school. 

Meanwhile

https://mobile.twitter.com/CatelynnLowell/status/854868102521118720?p=v

[MaddyMaeboxerbabe]

Kaiser has been going to school for months and does not turn 3 until June 30.  Nova turned 2 in January.  And while I think both of those children are better off around other caregivers I don't think they are in preschool that young.  

[CofCinci]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I hope Tyler and Cate used at least some of their online time to research where ever Nova is going to school. 

Meanwhile

https://mobile.twitter.com/CatelynnLowell/status/854868102521118720?p=v

Any nightclub willing to let Catelynn pass the ropes is to be avoided. 

[Jennifersdc]

On 4/10/2017 at 4:43 PM, Meatball said:

And when Theresa gave Cate the bracelet and said the three of them will be forever linked. Boy, Theresa really stepped in it there. I'm sure she never imagined these two little assholes would pretend Carly was on loan.

Poor Theresa. I fully blame MTV...they should have never cast these two on TM to begin with.

Since they had no actual baby to show, their only real storyline for years was how they struggled with giving up their baby. No wonder they became fixated on it since I'm sure producers were constantly egging them on about their "feelings" and the latest Carly updates.

IMO - it was a disservice to everybody involved, mostly Carly...I don't think Tyler and Cate had the maturity to deal with the pressure combined with getting those heady MTV checks.

MTV couldn't give a damn except for ratings - for the network that advertises itself as having the "social conscious" for the youth of America. Please - at this point I'm thinking Bill O'Reilly has a better claim to a social consciousness then they do...

And yes - I fully believe Tyler would have been out of there a long time ago if not for the fact staying with the Stage 5 clinger is part of his MTV persona.

[Jennifersdc]

7 hours ago, MaddyMaeboxerbabe said:

Kaiser has been going to school for months and does not turn 3 until June 30.  Nova turned 2 in January.  And while I think both of those children are better off around other caregivers I don't think they are in preschool that young.  

I fully support anything that gets The Roll away from the Jenelle/David/Nathan Experience.

Edited April 20, 2017 by Jennifersdc
Capitalization of experience - like the Jimi Hendrix Experience. Way less talent - jury still out on drug use.

[GreatKazu]

9 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I hope Tyler and Cate used at least some of their online time to research where ever Nova is going to school. 

Meanwhile

https://mobile.twitter.com/CatelynnLowell/status/854868102521118720?p=v

Venice? lol Stupid Cate. Has no clue. I see someone mentioned Santa Monica to her as a place to find clubs. Too bad Cate wouldn't fit in.  Better keep Tyler away from the Venice Boardwalk, Cate. You will go nuts when all those females in tiny shorts and bikini tops catch his eye. 

I seriously loathe knowing she is anywhere near my neck of the woods. 

[ginger90]

Idiot

https://mobile.twitter.com/CatelynnLowell/status/855132615736610816?p=v

I guess she wants to be on for 5 hours again.

And Tyler joins in, another idiot

https://mobile.twitter.com/TylerBaltierra/status/855147374208983040?p=v

[poopchute]

These two are forever stuck at age 13.  Tweeting about 420 and all their other stupid passive aggressive vague tweets about haters is so immature.  I don't think it's healthy to continue to live like a 13 year old when you're 25 and have a child.  They don't work, they barely manage a household (don't cook, don't seem to clean, barely pay attention to child), spend all day on their phones, haven't dated anyone else since they really were 13, have no grown up adult friends.  Don't they want to grow up and act like adults? They have a child they are responsible.  They are so fucking stupid and lazy and just complete wastes of life.

[ginger90]

And they are "launching" a business. Customer service at it's finest.

Customer, "Does this come in a size 2T ?".

Cate, "Are you fucking kidding me? Hater.".

[bethster2000]

Regarding Cate's greasy bangs: dry shampoo should be her best friend.  When I was in the grips of a suicidal depression last summer, sometimes dry shampoo was all that I could manage to make myself somewhat presentable for the outside world.  Now I use it because I love the results, especially on my bangs, which can get a little oily as the day goes on.  There are a lot of great brands out there at varying price points.  I use the "Not Your Mother's" dry shampoo and it's about five bucks at Walgreens.  A lifesaver.  I even keep a can of the stuff in my car, for greasy bang emergencies.

[CofCinci]

She doesn't shower. 

[Chris Knight]

23 hours ago, Calm81 said:

Nova is 3 months older than my daughter, so 2 years and 3 months. Do kids start school this early??? Am I behind? ??I'm a work from home mom and I'm not ready to send her off to school at two years old. ?

I've heard of 2-y-o preschool but frankly I'm surprised these 2 losers have heard of it, much less put their child in it. I'm quite sure Nova is in the afternoon session lol. I can't imagine they'd ever be on time for a morning session. 

[ginger90]

Wherever Nova is going the children must be required to be potty trained because recently Cate tweeted about how it only took 5 or 6 days.

And guess what? It was filmed. 

http://www.mtv.com/news/3001108/catelynn-lowell-potty-training-novalee-teen-mom-og/

[CofCinci]

44 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Wherever Nova is going the children must be required to be potty trained because recently Cate tweeted about how it only took 5 or 6 days.

And guess what? It was filmed. 

http://www.mtv.com/news/3001108/catelynn-lowell-potty-training-novalee-teen-mom-og/

Of course it was filmed. It's probably the only reason they bothered to potty train her. 

[guilfoyleatpp]

They should merge their two passions and do a show on weed for Vice.

[Brooklynista]

29 minutes ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

They should merge their two passions and do a show on weed for Vice.

I would bet mone that these two dont even smoke quality weed. All the money they have and theyre probably smoking dirt weed laced w oregano.  Nothing about these two is top notch.