Maci

[Lemur]

I seriously doubt anyone asks Bentley that question.  I believe that is nothing but narcissistic speculation on the part of Maci.

[Maharincess]

I hate how She uses being pregnant as an excuse for everything. She's "pregnant and doesn't need this stress" and "MTV is asking a lot from a pregnant girl".

Kiss my ass Maci.

[zenme]

Sooo Gary wAs 21 when Amber gave birth at 16?!!

 

Yes, and I think there was an almost similar situation with Maci and Ryan, so technically, it's statutory in the state of Tennessee.  I guess holier than thou Maci likes to forget about that aspect of her life.

[GreatKazu]

It gets on my nerves that Maci uses the "parenting choices" phrase.  It's really saying that, "I'm a better mother than you are."  I don't know.  It just seemed like a really low blow, not to mention that turn of phrase is also insulting to Caitlyn and Amber.  They allow Chevy Nova and Leah to be on the show with Farrah.  That reminds me.  I wonder if Leah gets the same "Is your mother the one that did porn" questions that Bentley supposedly gets...

I posted this very same thing on the other thread. I don't think Amber and Catelyn have a clue as to how that comes off. They are not so smart. They also have dollar signs on their mind so, they don't care about all of that hoopla Maci is drumming up.

 

Maci didn't have qualms about being mistaken for the girl who is an abuser and addict.

 

Tatum - thumbs up to your entire post above. I wholeheartedly agree!!

Edited May 15, 2015 by GreatKazu

[Tatum]

There's only a 2.5 year difference between Ryan and Maci. Per Wikipedia, Ryan was born in Jan 1989 and Maci was born in August of 1991. Ryan and Maci were 19 and 16 respectively when she conceived Bentley (by my math Maci got knocked up in January 2008 so Ryan had just turned 19 or was just shy of 19), and they were 19 and 17 when Maci gave birth to Bentley.

According to Starcasm, Amber either just turned 25 or is close to turning 25. If that is true then I don't think Amber was ever truly 16 and pregnant. She would have been 17-18 her entire pregnancy with Leah.

Eta: per a Google search, in the state of TN, the age difference has to be either 4 or 5 years if the minor is 15-17 for it to be statutory rape.

Edited May 15, 2015 by Tatum

[GreatKazu]

Ryan has the mentality of a child no matter his adult age.   Maci is on par with him too. lol  Two kids had sex and brought a third child into the mix.

[Darknight]

I hate how She uses being pregnant as an excuse for everything. She's "pregnant and doesn't need this stress" and "MTV is asking a lot from a pregnant girl".

Kiss my ass Maci.

Yet she fights with Ryan and her current baby daddy. Now is getting into arguments with Farrah and mtv. Funny how she isn't stressed when the check comes in. And what the hell does Maci have to stress about? She got it easy. All the girls do.

Ryan has the mentality of a child no matter his adult age. Maci is on par with him too. lol Two kids had sex and brought a third child into the mix.

I never thought of it this way. You're right! Two kids playing house and poor Bently and another kid are dragged into it.

[GreatKazu]

Yet she fights with Ryan and her current baby daddy. Now is getting into arguments with Farrah and mtv. Funny how she isn't stressed when the check comes in. And what the hell does Maci have to stress about? She got it easy. All the girls do.

I never thought of it this way. You're right! Two kids playing house and poor Bently and another kid are dragged into it.

Maci always starts these arguments.  Always. She is the one wanting to argue about something all.the.damn.time. All those arguments with Ryan - who ends up walking away? Ryan. Maci always tries to have the last word. She usually ends her arguments with, "I'm done."  This is why her suddenly not being able to talk to Farrah is a bunch of bullshit. Regardless of how stupid Farrah may have been coming off at times, she was pushing the right buttons with Maci, who is no scholar herself. It was a level playing field, so to speak.

 

Agree, when it comes to playing for the cameras and getting that check, Maci has no qualms. She is stress-free. She can travel for MTV, she can do photoshoots, and she even has a book coming out this summer! She can give interviews and be on social media without any stress whatsoever.

[FaithsMum]

Yes, and I think there was an almost similar situation with Maci and Ryan, so technically, it's statutory in the state of Tennessee. I guess holier than thou Maci likes to forget about that aspect of her life.

The whole "16 and pregnant" shtick is often bullshit. Amber is the eldest of all the TM girls, she just turned 25 this week (I'm so embarrassed I know that!) so she was actually 18 when she had Leah - she was never "16 and pregnant."

Edited May 18, 2015 by FaithsMum

[NikSac]

At least she was a teenager... but yeah, I didn't know til this thread how many of the girls weren't even ever "16 and pregnant" after all. I guess it has a better ring to it than "18 and pregnant"?  It does partially explain why some of these girls, including Maci, look older than I thought they were. I think tanning salons are also to blame, although Maci's usually so orange I'm assuming she uses some kind of fake tanner.

[FaithsMum]

It does partially explain why some of these girls, including Maci, look older than I thought they were.

I'm pretty sure Maci actually was "16 and pregnant" - she just looks far older than she is!! Catelynn too was 16 and I think is the youngest of the four, almost two full years younger than Amber. Farrah was a few months shy of 18 when she had Sophia.

I'm so ashamed of myself that I even know this.

But yeah, you're right - "18 and pregnant" doesn't have quite the same ring because while you're still a teenager, you're legally (if not emotionally!) an adult.

I can't really criticise Ryan/Maci because at 16, I had a 24 year old boyfriend. Yeah, my parents were fucking thrilled. I also fell pregnant at 16 but I chose a different path than these girls and I'm grateful everyday that unlike Maci I'm not tied to my ex for the rest of my life.

[MissMel]

Haha!! I see what you are stepping in, FaithsMum. I did the same thing. (Hugs and well wishes for you!)

I did end up getting married to my older boyfriend. He had custody of his child from his previous marriage, too. My parents were exceptionally thrilled. As you can imagine they would be.

No joke, I thought of these girls recently while I was talking to my mother. She got confused for a second when I said "at least he knows he won't be an uncle again any time soon." She said, "Wait. What?" I said, "Mom, my kid has been an uncle since he was 5." ( he's 14 now )

Oh the thrills of teens and pregnancy... See? That is a real story. This show is not. I still watch it, though.

Edited May 18, 2015 by MissMel

[SPLAIN]

Oh dear. I remember dating a guy who was 24 years of age while I was 15 years of age. I lied to him about my age. I told him I was 18 years old. I then lied to my parents that he was 18 years old. Eventually the lies caught up and I was in a pickle. Something about the older guys. Maci was not the first girl to date an adult. She won't be the last either.

[NikSac]

Oh dear. I remember dating a guy who was 24 years of age while I was 15 years of age. I lied to him about my age. I told him I was 18 years old. I then lied to my parents that he was 18 years old. Eventually the lies caught up and I was in a pickle. Something about the older guys. Maci was not the first girl to date an adult. She won't be the last either.

 

Very true. My first "boyfriend" was 34 when I was 17 so I can't say too much on that. Except that once I got to the age of 34 I realized how completely disgusting it was - when I was 34, 17 year olds looked like kids!  But there is something about the older guy thing. There will always be older guys willing to date high school aged girls.

[ginger90]

Maci tweeted this today. Does anyone know what her job is?

 

maci bookout @MaciBookoutMTV 
  ·  13h 13 hours ago  
8 1/2 months pregnant.... its taking everything i have to not fall asleep on my desk at work right now.

[NikSac]

Desk at her social media job?

[cheatincheetos]

Maci tweeted this today. Does anyone know what her job is?

 

 

Willy Wonka's candy factory, where she is the least motivated worker in the entire orange-hued work force.

[ghoulina]

She has some radio show, doesn't she? Or am I confusing her with someone else? Still....it can't be that time consuming. 

[Tatum]

She does have a radio show on some local station, but I think it's like a once a week or less thing. She could be referring to a desk at home, but I suspect she is referencing her job as a "Social Media Specialist" which I bet mostly entails updating her company's facebook and twitter pages and maybe answering some emails. This job will likely just be one more thing that falls to the wayside after she has her baby.

[Maharincess]

Oh dear. I remember dating a guy who was 24 years of age while I was 15 years of age. I lied to him about my age. I told him I was 18 years old. I then lied to my parents that he was 18 years old. Eventually the lies caught up and I was in a pickle. Something about the older guys. Maci was not the first girl to date an adult. She won't be the last either.

I was 17 when I had my first baby (19 when I had my second) their dad was a 32 year old tattoo artist I met when he illegally tattooed me when I was 16.

I think my daughter was a little embarrassed when she had to take her birth certificate to school for a project and it said "Age of mother:17" "Age of father 32".

I wouldn't change it for the world because I raised 2 of the best human beings I know but still.

The sucky part is that everybody knew everybody's ages, my parents just didn't give a shit.

[GreatKazu]

Maci tweeted this today. Does anyone know what her job is?

 

Her real job is seeking out any guy who will put a ring on it.

[FaithsMum]

Haha!! I see what you are stepping in, FaithsMum. I did the same thing. (Hugs and well wishes for you!)

I did end up getting married to my older boyfriend. He had custody of his child from his previous marriage, too. My parents were exceptionally thrilled. As you can imagine they would be.

Thank you!

I thankfully did not marry mine; he was an abusive, controlling, psychotic shit which, with hindsight, explains why he wanted a 16 year old, barely out of school. I put up with him for two years before I'd had enough. I feel pretty bad for my parents now as there was very little they could do. In the UK, 16 is the age of consent and though you're not an adult if I disappeared off to his home (which was a few hundred miles away) they could not legally have me brought home. The police would refuse to intervene and I was not "stupid" enough to ever give them an address. I was stubborn and for a long time, besotted and I didn't care what anyone had to say about it and so I was doing what I was doing.

I met my husband when I was 19. He was 35. My parents were just as thrilled about that!! Eight years on they've just about accepted it! :)

I always figure Ryan was interested in 16 year old Maci because she was young and adoring in addition to probably being pretty pliable when he wanted to have unprotected sex. Not that I think 20 year olds are always a paragon of responsibility but those few years can make a difference and there's a far greater chance of someone with that little bit more life experience seeing through his bullshit.

[MissMel]

I always figure Ryan was interested in 16 year old Maci because she was young and adoring in addition to probably being pretty pliable when he wanted to have unprotected sex. Not that I think 20 year olds are always a paragon of responsibility but those few years can make a difference and there's a far greater chance of someone with that little bit more life experience seeing through his bullshit.

This is probably just "it". During my divorce, after 14 years of marriage, I asked him one question. "Why? Why me? You didn't love me. Hell, you didn't even seem to like me. So why?"

His answer was, "because you were young. You were pretty and had no baggage. (Which means no kids so no exes to deal with, as well) I knew I could mold you." Which, was totally true and it worked. Until I turned 31.

I have no doubt this was Ryan's thinking as well. Maci just didn't "mold" like he planned. She might want to be thankful she missed that boat and quit trying to steer it. Life is a lot easier that way. I must say, I do love that she gets to keep a relationship with his parents. Benny wins with that.

[qtpye]

This is probably just "it". During my divorce, after 14 years of marriage, I asked him one question. "Why? Why me? You didn't love me. Hell, you didn't even seem to like me. So why?"

His answer was, "because you were young. You were pretty and had no baggage. (Which means no kids so no exes to deal with, as well) I knew I could mold you." Which, was totally true and it worked. Until I turned 31.

I have no doubt this was Ryan's thinking as well. Maci just didn't "mold" like he planned. She might want to be thankful she missed that boat and quit trying to steer it. Life is a lot easier that way. I must say, I do love that she gets to keep a relationship with his parents. Benny wins with that.

 

 

I think Ryan never gave Maci this much thought.  He thought he had a young virgin to fool around with and could easily get rid of her once he was bored of the relationship.  As for why the hell he did not wear a condom...after the conversation about how he does not see the need to put his son into a carseat  or put on his own seat belt...we can see the guy does not make smart decisions.  I think he hates being chained to Maci for the rest of his life.  When he congratulated Maci's new baby daddy about the pregnancy...he had this look on his face that sort of said "welcome to my Hell".

Edited May 24, 2015 by qtpye

[GreatKazu]

 

I think Ryan never gave Maci this much thought.  He thought he had a young virgin to fool around with and could easily get rid of her once he was bored of the relationship

This. I don't think Ryan could even muster the energy or the desire to want to mold Maci or any girl for any long term relationship. He just wanted someone he could easily bang and eventually dump. Young girls can be easily manipulated. There is a reason why guys like Ryan can't or won't get girls that are older and more mature. Those women wouldn't want to waste their time with a clod like Ryan.

[lexiexx]

Maci has said that she was the one who talked Ryan into having sex.

[Maharincess]

FaithsMum, mine was abusive and controlling too. I did marrt him though, I was young and stupid just like he wanted. I grew up after I had my kids. I didn't want my daughter to think being abused was normal in a relationship and didn't want my son to grow up to be an abuser.

I escaped one night when my kids were 2 and an infant.

He died a few months later.

I agree that Ryan never gave Maci much thought. I think his plan was to play with the young virgin and then move on to another one.

I just watched her 16 and Pregnant today. Ryan never had any interest in Maci or Bentley.

Maci kept referring to herself as an over achiever, either she was full of shit or Teen Mom ruined her.

[Maharincess]

I just realized that those things in Maci's ears are big holes! I always thought that she was just attached to ugly black earrings. I never noticed they were those big hole gauge thingamajigs. Ew.

Why? Why would somebody want to do that? It's so gross when they take the ring thingys out and their ear lobes are flippity flapping all over the place.

How did I never notice that those ugly black earrings were holes?

Edited May 26, 2015 by Maharincess

[Tatum]

 

I agree that Ryan never gave Maci much thought. I think his plan was to play with the young virgin and then move on to another one.

I just watched her 16 and Pregnant today. Ryan never had any interest in Maci or Bentley.

 

I definitely agree that Ryan had no sinister intentions of molding Maci to his whims- but I do think they were officially dating before she became pregnant. Maci mentioned in her episode that Ryan had been "after" her since her sophomore year of high school. Now, granted, it's Maci talking, so perhaps Ryan merely said hi to her once when she was 15 and Maci took that for undying love. Still, Maci makes a few references to Ryan coming to her house and meeting her parents before she got pregnant, so I think they were dating- at least casually- for at least a few months prior. I don't think Ryan ever saw her as a long term future prospect, but I would be willing to bet he referred to her as his girlfriend even before the second line on the pregnancy test showed up.

 

I think he really did enjoy her company in the beginning, then once he realized he was tied to her forever, that's when the resentment set in. He was awful to Maci in her 16 and pregnant episode, I think in the hopes that she would break up with him and save him from being the bad guy. In their fight at the end, when Maci says she wants to leave him, you can just see the hope springing in his eyes, only to be crushed when Maci says she is willing to try her best to make it work for Bentley's sake.

 

Bitchy as it sounds, I still maintain 16 year old Maci totally outkicked her coverage. Maybe now the scales are a little more balanced in that Ryan and Maci are equally reprehensible, but 18 year old Ryan, who worked full time and had a cute apartment, was really not a bad catch. 

 

Sidebar- is Ryan 26 or 27 now? Every article I've seen lists his birthdate as January 1989, which would make him 26, but Maci herself said he was 27? If he's 27, then I retract my statement above. 3.5 years when the younger one is 15 is just kind of gross. 2.5 years is on the edge of acceptable (since Ryan and Maci would have been in high school together- not necessarily the same one, but the same time- as a senior and sophomore, which I saw all the time).

[GreatKazu]

Maharincess I am shocked that you barely noticed Maci's gauges in her ears. lol Yes, she has had those for some time now. They stick out like sore thumbs next to her pale skin.

 

As for things that I have not been aware of, I didn't know that Maci and Kyle had words over Twitter after their break-up:

http://www.examiner.com/article/teen-mom-maci-bookout-and-ex-boyfriend-kyle-king-s-twitter-war

 

 

Kyle called out Maci as being a "fake ass super mom"...LOL  I so believe this. Maci has always come off, to me, as if she tries real hard to give this impression that she is this multitasking mother who is just so damn busy tending to house, school, work, child and whatever dude is in her life at that moment.

Edited May 27, 2015 by GreatKazu

[Maharincess]

I can't believe I never noticed them. At least they aren't huge holes like some I've seen. I just think it looks so gross. Why would anybody want big huge floppy ear lobes?

[GreatKazu]

I agree. I don't like the gauge look, with or without the gauges. I think Maci thinks she is "oh so cool" with them. They look as horrible as her man's beard. Is he in some kind of beard club or something? Why do his friends have the same look? Grow the fuck up.

[pakalolo]

I can't believe I never noticed them. At least they aren't huge holes like some I've seen. I just think it looks so gross. Why would anybody want big huge floppy ear lobes?

Maci's guages are quite small, if she took the earrings out at her size instead of dangling floppy lobes they would probably leave a hole that looked eerily similar to Farrah's butthole mold.

[gunderda]

Very true. My first "boyfriend" was 34 when I was 17 so I can't say too much on that. Except that once I got to the age of 34 I realized how completely disgusting it was - when I was 34, 17 year olds looked like kids!  But there is something about the older guy thing. There will always be older guys willing to date high school aged girls.

Ditto to this... I was crazy for the older guys when I was 16-18. And that's when the internet first started up.....Mid-late 20s was my favorite.  And now that I am in my 30s I'm like EWWWWWWWWWWW.

[leighroda]

Apparently Maci had her baby this afternoon, so I guess she can go back to work and school because the reason she didn't have time for them was she was pregnant ;).

[GreatKazu]

Apparently Maci had her baby this afternoon, so I guess she can go back to work and school because the reason she didn't have time for them was she was pregnant ;).

Hope her baby is doing well.

 

Maci will have all kinds of excuses now. She can't study because the baby keeps her awake all night.

[Maharincess]

I can't find anything about her having the baby.

[Joe Jitsu913]

She named her baby Jayde.

[Maharincess]

We've been making fun of the name for a while now.

Edited May 30, 2015 by Maharincess

[Miss Chevious]

I can't find anything about her having the baby.

I saw an item on mtv.com saying Maci had her baby at 1:59pm today and she weighed 7lb 15oz. So Jayde is here. (That name ugh. Better without the unnecessary Y)

[MaddyMaeboxerbabe]

It is also on maci's twitter.

[Maharincess]

I see it now. When I first checked all I could find was baby shower stuff.

leighroda was quick on the draw with that one!

Edited because my comment repeated 3 times.

Edited May 30, 2015 by Maharincess

[Shelby]

Apparently Maci had her baby this afternoon, so I guess she can go back to work and school because the reason she didn't have time for them was she was pregnant ;).

I'm lazy/don't care to Google. What is Bintley's sister's last name? For that matter, what is Bintley's last name?

Welcome to the world, Jayde.

[ginger90]

 For that matter, what is Bintley's last name?

 

He's Bentley Edwards.

[Elizabeth9]

Taylor McKinney, so I'm assuming Jayde is a McKinney

[leighroda]

I see it now. When I first checked all I could find was baby shower stuff.

leighroda was quick on the draw with that one!

Edited because my comment repeated 3 times.

I have a bad habit of checking the Ashley's reality roundup when I'm supposed to be studying. I'm never first though...lol I didn't read back to see it hadn't been mentioned... Go me.

[cheatincheetos]

I saw an item on mtv.com saying Maci had her baby at 1:59pm today and she weighed 7lb 15oz. So Jayde is here. (That name ugh. Better without the unnecessary Y)

What kind of stuffed animal did they get the new darling? My bet is on a high horse.

[Darknight]

6 years ago Maci was a 16/17 yo teen mom. 6 years later she's a 22/23 yo single mom of two with two baby daddies that don't give two shits about her still trying to work on her TWO year degree Keep practicing safe sex kids.

[MaddyMaeboxerbabe]

Maci turns 24 in august. I only know because she shares the same birthday as my youngest :).

[lexiexx]

Also back when Maci had Bentley she wasn't supporting a man. At least Ryan had an apartment for them to live in. The new guy moved in with Maci and then rode her ass to buy them a bigger house. Remember when Maci was all pissed off because Ryan wouldn't pay for some cake mix to bake bentleys cake that time? Her standards are way lower now imo.

Edited May 31, 2015 by lexiexx