mamadrama December 30, 2016 Share December 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, GreatKazu said: Good catch! I would venture to guess the set is a generic set available for filming by various production companies. When that scene aired, I had a feeling it must be a set on some studio lot. This has nothing to do with Teen Mom, but going with the production set theme here, if you ever watch the film Mommie Dearest, notice the kitchen in the soap opera scenes with the adult Christina is the same kitchen used in the sitcom Happy Days. Back to TM. That whole scene with Matt's son was a waste of screen time. That could have been screen time devoted to Gary, Kristina, and their kids. I am so glad Gary put the pressure on Amber to get rid of that scumbag's so-called son from her house. That is something else MTV could have aired instead of this crap. I clearly need a life. When I first saw it I was like, "Hey! That was on a scene with TEEN MOM! Something with Amber..." And then my son piped up and said, "Where she was talking about her boyfriend's son?" Which proves my whole family needs a life. I love catching reusable sets. The house on GILMORE GIRLS was also on the DUKES OF HAZZARD. That stuff just tickles me. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2864103
ginger90 December 31, 2016 Share December 31, 2016 I wonder what she will be busy doing. She hasn't promoted an appearance or anything. Classy tweeting her "winnings", https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/815147533819252736?p=v 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2864968
CofCinci December 31, 2016 Share December 31, 2016 She's up $2,400 and "professional poker player" Matt is probably down $24,000. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2864985
Katt December 31, 2016 Share December 31, 2016 Won't she have to pay taxes on that? <insert that frigging annoying crying-with-laughter emoji> 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2865066
GreatKazu December 31, 2016 Share December 31, 2016 3 hours ago, ginger90 said: I wonder what she will be busy doing. She hasn't promoted an appearance or anything. Classy tweeting her "winnings", https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/815147533819252736?p=v Liar, liar, pants on fire. Amber is trying so hard to look rich like Farrah, and lie like her as well. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2865171
mamadrama December 31, 2016 Share December 31, 2016 6 hours ago, GreatKazu said: Liar, liar, pants on fire. Amber is trying so hard to look rich like Farrah, and lie like her as well. And ain't none of them better liars or fronters like Farrah. (Except maybe for Maci and the pregnancy-what-pregnancy-BELCH drama.) 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2865864
CofCinci December 31, 2016 Share December 31, 2016 7 hours ago, Katt said: Won't she have to pay taxes on that? <insert that frigging annoying crying-with-laughter emoji> I think with Vegas, if she wins more than $1200 then it is reported to IRS. With Indiana, where they live and I work, it is $600 for the racinos. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2865874
ginger90 January 1, 2017 Share January 1, 2017 https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/815342608893386752/photo/1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2866282
leighroda January 1, 2017 Share January 1, 2017 I know we all can't bring in the new year as thousandaires like Amber... but I hope for health and happiness for all of you!! 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2866550
guilfoyleatpp January 1, 2017 Share January 1, 2017 4 hours ago, ginger90 said: https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/815342608893386752/photo/1 pretty serious return policy for a site without a size chart. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2866560
CofCinci January 1, 2017 Share January 1, 2017 Serious commute too. San Antonio, TX. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2866609
druzy January 1, 2017 Share January 1, 2017 Happy New Year Everyone!!! Amber got out of bed and isn't depressed! https://twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/815501910694211584 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2866650
CofCinci January 1, 2017 Share January 1, 2017 http://imgur.com/B0qlGbM Her store site crashed because it's so popular. ? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2866672
Snarky McSnarky January 1, 2017 Share January 1, 2017 5 hours ago, CofCinci said: Serious commute too. San Antonio, TX. Send returns to a 4 Bedroom house in Texas. Something tells me this isn't exactly a hands-on business for Ambie. More like "sell our stuff through your website portal." 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2867003
Snarky McSnarky January 1, 2017 Share January 1, 2017 4 hours ago, druzy said: Happy New Year Everyone!!! Amber got out of bed and isn't depressed! https://twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/815501910694211584 So now she's a Vegas VIP? LOL! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2867013
Katt January 1, 2017 Share January 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, Snarky McSnarky said: Send returns to a 4 Bedroom house in Texas. Something tells me this isn't exactly a hands-on business for Ambie. More like "sell our stuff through your website portal." She puts in the least effort possible but posts about what's she's "achieved" 24/7 from her couch. I can't wait to hear someone say they're wearing something from AliBaba, I mean Hate U Couture, I mean whatever tf her "boutique" is called. It defintely won't start with, "Oooh, I just love your top!" Hehehe. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2867030
Snarky McSnarky January 1, 2017 Share January 1, 2017 (edited) Someone on Reddit found another website selling the exact same stuff for half of what Amber's website is selling it for. Edited January 2, 2017 by Snarky McSnarky 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2867293
CofCinci January 1, 2017 Share January 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, Snarky McSnarky said: Someone on Reddit found another website selling the exact same stuff for half of what Amber's website is selling it for. Walmart.com or Meijers.com? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2867317
druzy January 1, 2017 Share January 1, 2017 There is no mention of Teen Mom on Amber's Twitter profile. She does however mention that she is a real estate investor and flipper! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2867393
leighroda January 1, 2017 Share January 1, 2017 The website reads to me like before ever haute... maybe It's just me, but it confuses the brand for me... not that it mAtters, it's not like that is what will keep me from being a customer, but still. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2867451
GreatKazu January 1, 2017 Share January 1, 2017 43 minutes ago, druzy said: There is no mention of Teen Mom on Amber's Twitter profile. She does however mention that she is a real estate investor and flipper! More like a flopper. Two things come to my mind about no mention of TM on her profile. One, she is mad at them and removed "TM" from her profile info or two, Matt is pissed off at them and he removed it. I thought of the possibility that may be a hint that she is done with MTV, but she is still contractually obligated to that cruise with Maci and Kailyn. What does this tweet mean? More commas are necessary, and then she inserts an unnecessary apostrophe: As for Matt in the Twitter photo, every time I see his face, he reminds me of that serial killer, Gary Heidnik: 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2867483
FlowerofCarnage January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 3 hours ago, GreatKazu said: More like a flopper. Two things come to my mind about no mention of TM on her profile. One, she is mad at them and removed "TM" from her profile info or two, Matt is pissed off at them and he removed it. I thought of the possibility that may be a hint that she is done with MTV, but she is still contractually obligated to that cruise with Maci and Kailyn. What does this tweet mean? More commas are necessary, and then she inserts an unnecessary apostrophe: As for Matt in the Twitter photo, every time I see his face, he reminds me of that serial killer, Gary Heidnik: Oh, wow! I didn't know Gary Heidnik was that we'll known outside of Philly but then again, I was a kid when his house of horrors was discovered in North Philly. Why does Amber look like a mannequin in the pic? I think she means more commas as in commas between the amount of digits in her bank account. Good luck with that while trying to dodge Uncle Sam and putting everything in your grifter fiance's name. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2867908
leighroda January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 Ugh... you're right, I don't understand how she thinks this will end well for her, either the money is in her name and the govt seizes it or Matt is going to clear out the account and skip town... how can she not see that!? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2867931
DNR January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 Greasy Matt must be sharing Ambers foundation and pressed powder makeup cuz usually his skin is a greasy gross zit filled red mess. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2867938
Snarky McSnarky January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 Is Amber talking about adding commas to her net worth or her accumulated debt? 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2868038
MyPeopleAreNordic January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 6 hours ago, leighroda said: The website reads to me like before ever haute... maybe It's just me, but it confuses the brand for me... not that it mAtters, it's not like that is what will keep me from being a customer, but still. I am glad I'm not the only one who initially thought that's what the name of her boutique was. 1 hour ago, Snarky McSnarky said: Is Amber talking about adding commas to her net worth or her accumulated debt? Well, she said "comma's" - so I expect that means she's out looking for a possessive comma. Maybe that's what she's doing in Vegas....hunting down those possessive commas. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2868209
CofCinci January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 Bad grammar is one thing the IRS and Matt will never be able to take away from Amber. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2868223
GreatKazu January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, FlowerofCarnage said: Oh, wow! I didn't know Gary Heidnik was that we'll known outside of Philly but then again, I was a kid when his house of horrors was discovered in North Philly. Why does Amber look like a mannequin in the pic? I think she means more commas as in commas between the amount of digits in her bank account. Good luck with that while trying to dodge Uncle Sam and putting everything in your grifter fiance's name. She does look like a mannequin in her photo. Her Twitter page also shows a photo of her with her brother. Not sure, but he might be in Vegas with her. So, the comma remark is in reference to money. Amber is trying to fatten up her wallet for Matt to love her more. Gary Heidnik has stayed in my memory since he was arrested. That case made headlines and is mentioned from time to time on various crime shows. Edited January 2, 2017 by GreatKazu 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2868240
FlowerofCarnage January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 I hate to say it but I think Amber entered into a payment agreement with the IRS otherwise wouldn't the check she received from MTV be seized to repay the debt and wouldn't the profits from her online boutique be subject to garnish from them as well? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2868462
Katt January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 I wonder if she expected or asked MTV to settle her debt? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2868468
Christina January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 44 minutes ago, FlowerofCarnage said: I hate to say it but I think Amber entered into a payment agreement with the IRS otherwise wouldn't the check she received from MTV be seized to repay the debt and wouldn't the profits from her online boutique be subject to garnish from them as well? Absolutely. I know people think that because she is paid as an independent contractor the IRS can't take her income, but they absolutely can and will; they just have to get a judge's signature first. I worked as a litigation paralegal for a law firm that handled mostly contract disputes between companies. We often got court orders that ordered us to pay taxes, past due child support and alimony, along with other judgments owed the state or private individuals who learned of the civil action. There are certain individuals who always get paid out of any settlement, primarily insurance companies who have paid claims related to a car accident where someone else is at fault, and that falls under their policy. Everything else involves a court order or a child support/alimony lien. There was one case where Workers' Comp was claiming a lien on a contract dispute that didn't involve WC, and they sent a certified letter demanding a lien on the settlement. The attorney on that case contacted the bar association to see if he needed to honor it since they didn't have a judge's signature, and the bar association said no. When WC was notified, they went and got a court order. The IRS is actually willing to work with people because they just want their money. Arrange a payment schedule and they won't send you to jail. Both Ohio and WV state tax departments were horrible, and didn't seem to care if they were paid or not. There were perfectly happy to let you go to jail and still demand payment. It was quite absurd. If there were legitimate complaints and disagreements about the amount owed, some judges wouldn't sign the order of attachment, but for the most part, the orders were rubber-stamped. If MTV received one for Amber from the IRS or for Matt from the Child Support Enforcement agencies, which sounds like what happened according to one of Matt's ex's statements in his thread, then they couldn't say that person is an independent contractor and they wouldn't pay it. They could demand an Order from a court, but couldn't ignore it if they received one. The most egregious case I've ever seen was a man who worked out of state repairing and removing railroads. He was paid by a card, and would cash it out and take it to CSE each month. He had a stack of receipts two inches thick. His ex said she hadn't received anything and he showed her his receipts. She went to CSE and asked why she wasn't being paid and a warrant was issued for his arrest. He provided us with the receipts, and CSE insisted they had never received a payment, even though they admitted it looked like one of their receipts. That part of his case ended up being transferred to someone who specialized in domestic relations and was still pending when I forced into medical retirement. He and his ex were absolutely being cheated, and I hope he was able to prove it. That was a very long-winded way to say that Amber is screwed; the IRS will get their money. Owing the IRS is stupid, because you don't want them looking at your income. If she is charging twice as much as somewhere else for the same item, they are going to wonder why she is receiving it. She is very dumb and is going to wind back up in jail. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2868480
Calm81 January 2, 2017 Share January 2, 2017 (edited) On 12/30/2016 at 6:31 PM, GreatKazu said: Good catch! I would venture to guess the set is a generic set available for filming by various production companies. When that scene aired, I had a feeling it must be a set on some studio lot. This has nothing to do with Teen Mom, but going with the production set theme here, if you ever watch the film Mommie Dearest, notice the kitchen in the soap opera scenes with the adult Christina is the same kitchen used in the sitcom Happy Days. Back to TM. That whole scene with Matt's son was a waste of screen time. That could have been screen time devoted to Gary, Kristina, and their kids. I am so glad Gary put the pressure on Amber to get rid of that scumbag's so-called son from her house. That is something else MTV could have aired instead of this crap. No more wire hangerrrrrrrs. Ever since I was a child I'd call my mom Mommie Dearest whenever she was being a bit too rude for my liking and it would piss her off (in a fun way, my mom has a cool sense of humor). Nice catch to the one that spotted the set. That scene with Matt and his son was so awkward. You could tell Seth green was just agreeing to all the bullshit because he got paid some money. Edited January 2, 2017 by Calm81 I just noticed my like COUNT is at 1111 - MAKE A WISH Y'ALL 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2868620
EmeraldGirl January 3, 2017 Share January 3, 2017 (edited) I thought that was a hotel. I've seen Farrah, as well as C&T "stay" there while in LA. I think they even showed a kitchenette with some bar stools. Of course that doesn't mean it isn't a set. I personally really want that mirror. The full picture of Amber in Vegas is insane. That crazy hat and platinum hair is paired with a gold sequined jacket and lots of cleavage. She's doing a little Carol Channing meets the Solid Gold dancers. Edited January 3, 2017 by EmeraldGirl 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2870135
GreatKazu January 3, 2017 Share January 3, 2017 16 minutes ago, EmeraldGirl said: I thought that was a hotel. I've seen Farrah, as well as C&T "stay" there while in LA. I think they even showed a kitchenette with some bar stools. Of course that doesn't mean it isn't a set. I personally really want that mirror. The full picture of Amber in Vegas is insane. That crazy hat and platinum hair is paired with a gold sequined jacket and lots of cleavage. She's doing a little Carol Channing meets the Solid Gold dancers. Two different scenes. The hotel scenes were filmed at a hotel. The scene where Amber, Matt, and his son chatted was on a production set. I think the scene on the production set was shown right after, or before the scene Drew declared Amber as being definitely clean and sober. *eyeroll* 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2870173
ginger90 January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 Amber's on her way home. Wonder if she'll see Leah today https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/816535158085910528?p=v 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2873852
CofCinci January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, ginger90 said: Amber's on her way home. Wonder if she'll see Leah today https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/816535158085910528?p=v Or this month. She'll need to recover from the partying. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2873854
OtterReality January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 On 1/1/2017 at 4:31 PM, GreatKazu said: Boy George, is that you? 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2874001
DangerousMinds January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 Is she putting filters on her pics? If not, HOW is she getting that artificial face look? Troweling on makeup? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2874222
CofCinci January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 1 hour ago, OtterReality said: Boy George, is that you? Or Alexis Arquette as the Boy George fan in The Wedding Singer. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2874258
ghoulina January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 She's absolutely using a filter. Matt's face looks smoother than normal too. Her coloring is different with the filter, though, because she's under the shadow of the hat. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2874266
GreatKazu January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 Whose hand is behind Amber's head? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2874860
SuzWhat January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 34 minutes ago, GreatKazu said: Whose hand is behind Amber's head? Like THAT's the weirdest thing about the photo. LOL. We know it's not Matt's because the hand is too big. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2874992
GreatKazu January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, SuzWhat said: Like THAT's the weirdest thing about the photo. LOL. We know it's not Matt's because the hand is too big. lol He'd have to be a contortionist because that is a left hand. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2875023
ghoulina January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 We know it ain't Leah's. Probably one of her best friends (*cough*producer*cough*) 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2875065
ginger90 January 4, 2017 Share January 4, 2017 What does it mean that she only works with 4 and 5 star websites? https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/816703981074468866?p=v On the boutique's twitter someone commented they wanted to know where they could purchase the moo moo Amber was wearing in her filthy garage, lol!! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2875110
Snarky McSnarky January 5, 2017 Share January 5, 2017 (edited) I didn't know there was a rating system for websites! You learn something new every day. Amazing how she can "hand pick" everything she sells when it is all being shipped out of San Antonio (someone posted her order's tracking info). None of her Twitter groupies find it strange that "her" boutique is located 1,200 miles away from Indianapolis! Don't they realize the website is just a facade to funnel orders through an existing company, and Amber has nothing to do with any of it? At least Farrah has actual retail stores. Edited January 5, 2017 by Snarky McSnarky 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2876702
ginger90 January 5, 2017 Share January 5, 2017 She has alot to learn. She needs to learn the difference between visitors, hits and shoppers with $$$ https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/816861394276675584?p=v 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2876973
Snarky McSnarky January 5, 2017 Share January 5, 2017 (edited) The address in San Antonio is also linked to this person's website. She sells candles online using a "storefront" scheme similar to Amber's. She re-Tweets Amber's messages regarding the boutique. https://twitter.com/vanluc7 Edited January 6, 2017 by Snarky McSnarky 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2876985
FlowerofCarnage January 5, 2017 Share January 5, 2017 So this little gem on Instagram 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2877324
leighroda January 5, 2017 Share January 5, 2017 4 hours ago, ginger90 said: She has alot to learn. She needs to learn the difference between visitors, hits and shoppers with $$$ https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/816861394276675584?p=v If anyone watches sisterwives this is the same thing that happened with their business (for non watchers they opened an online jewlery business that flopped) they thought things were great because they had x number of views, but those views didn't turn into sales and it went under relatively fast. Every person in America could view the website twice but if nobody buys anything the views don't matter, it just means people are looking and don't like it... maybe we should all stop in and help with that view number ;). 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/39/#findComment-2877509
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