Season 20: Live Feed Discussion

[Callaphera]

4 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

Ok DR needs to have a talk with JC. Just because he's a 4'8" munchkin doesn't mean it's okay for him to be that sexually inappropriate with other HG's. So far the HG's have tolerated it ... a lot better than I'd handle it. But I could see it getting really ugly.

From the same people that brought you Frankie Grande talking about gang raping a virgin HG in front of her parents while she bled... it's JC! Minion fucker, junk grabber, ice cream scooper! This summer on Biiiig Brother!

But it's totes not sexual assault. Nope. Because he's gay. And short. It's fine, guys. He doesn't really mean it.

[Growsonwalls]

 

You can already tell that the HG's are trying to hide their annoyance. Actually Rachel isn't even trying to hide it. She's giving him the "you come over here with the ice cream scooper and I will really go Vegas on you" look.

[zorak]

Swaggy is talking to the camera in HOH.  He says his first priority is he and Bayleigh.  His 2nd priority is him, Scotty, and Tyler.

[Lady Calypso]

Swaggy's up in his Tyler's HOH room, talking to the live feeders, giving a run-down on everything.

This includes Haleigh/Kaitlyn love triangle drama, his plan to target Winston and throw his alliance under the bus to Winston, and other stuff.

[Wings]

19 minutes ago, zorak said:

It probably is.  They asked him if he had to eat any of the other stuff besides the "ham" and he said no.

He has to eat ALL of that ham?  That is way too much.  Very odd punishment. Better than some though. 

[Callaphera]

Just now, Wings said:

He has to eat ALL of that ham?  That is way too much.  Very odd punishment. Better than some though. 

I would have self-evicted. I hate ham. 

[zorak]

Swaggy thinks he and Bayleigh are in a secret showmance.  Dude, everybody knows. 

He's calling his plan with Bayleigh Operation Rock Rave Rock.  The first thing it involves is Bayleigh doing her best to help repair the relationship between Kaitlyn and Haleigh so that neither one will be tempted to go the other side of the house.  The 2nd part is his whole plan to tell Brett that people think Brett's a doctor and he's at the top of everyone's list to target.  I'm not sure if there was a 3rd part.

Swaggy's goal is not to make it to jury.  He came on BB to be in the final 2.  He says he didn't come on BB for the followers and the fame.  He's there to win.  He also thinks that if someone tries to take a shot at him they will fail.  I would love for him to not even make it to jury.

[Wings]

35 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

41 minutes ago, Wings said:

 I will assume he was scooping peens.  

I'll take "Things You Never Thought You'd Say Online" for 500, Alex.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zorak]

Swaggy is blaming his loss in the veto comp on his lack of willpower during that particular comp.

[Growsonwalls]

Guys Swaggy calls his chats "SwaggyC TV." Now he's trashing HG's who are working out in the yard. He says that shows a lack of fire and competition. He's just going to "cook" them in comps.

[zorak]

Now he's trying to give us Live Feeders a lesson in how to train your willpower.  Ok, Swaggy.

Edited July 1, 2018 by zorak

[Callaphera]

Swaggy C comes with tee shirts that have his name written on the chest. Talks non-stop about "trending". Begs America to give him the power next week. Shouts out his Instagram handle so everyone can follow him.

He's not here for fame or fans, though. He's here to win. 

[zorak]

Swaggy says to take note because he and Bayleigh are going to make it to the end and it will play out how exactly how he's saying it's going to.  But then in the next breath he says Bayleigh might get cut with 5 or 6 left.  

[zorak]

Faysal is talking to Bayleigh.  He says he's weirded out by Kaitlyn getting territorial with him.  He says she's his best friend in the house so why is she trying to fuck with him.  This was after Faysal walked in on Kaitlyn and Bayleigh talking about Haleigh and where her interests lie in terms of potential romances.  Kaitlyn made a point of saying while Faysal was standing there that she thinks Haleigh is into Tyler and Brett but that she's not into Faysal.

[backformore]

39 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

Ok DR needs to have a talk with JC. Just because he's a 4'8" munchkin doesn't mean it's okay for him to be that sexually inappropriate with other HG's. So far the HG's have tolerated it ... a lot better than I'd handle it. But I could see it getting really ugly.

How is his behavior OK?  Does being on Big Brother make you immune to sexual assault accusations?  

I want the other houseguests to stop shrieking and laughing, and just tell him to keep his hands and his "scoop" to himself.  What a disgusting little creep he is.

[TimWil]

Swaggy is insufferable.

[Callaphera]

I'm so divided on Kaitlyn. She's a feeds watcher, she knows the game. She seems determined to stir the pot once she sprinkles some essential oils into it. But the baby talk is annoying and she seems to be into the MLM shit, which gets an automatic pass from me. 

I just need someone to start bringing the drama. Not JC grabbing people drama, more like Who took my cat ears? drama. It's been like three or four days of feeds and we haven't had a screaming death match in the kitchen yet? Bah.

[vb68]

28 minutes ago, zorak said:

Swaggy is talking to the camera in HOH.  He says his first priority is he and Bayleigh.  His 2nd priority is him, Scotty, and Tyler.

 He can dress it up anyway he wants, but the priority is still him.  It would be funny if he kept going. His 56th priority is him, Bayleigh, the robot with or without Sam, and Rockstar's glasses.

[Growsonwalls]

1 minute ago, Callaphera said:

I'm so divided on Kaitlyn. She's a feeds watcher, she knows the game. She seems determined to stir the pot once she sprinkles some essential oils into it. But the baby talk is annoying and she seems to be into the MLM shit, which gets an automatic pass from me. 

I just need someone to start bringing the drama. Not JC grabbing people drama, more like Who took my cat ears? drama. It's been like three or four days of feeds and we haven't had a screaming death match in the kitchen yet? Bah.

Or WHO POURED OUT MY COKE CAN? drama. Remember that witchhunt for Alex's coke went on all summer? 

[zorak]

Swaggy is talking to Faysal about his plan to confront Winston.  He's trying to decide between confronting Winston about the fact that Winston has been saying he and Bayleigh are in a showmance (even though they totally are and everyone already knows it) or telling him that Winston has been seen as a threat to make him scared.  But then he said he would tell Winston he's being seen as a threat in the nicest of ways.  He said he would tell Winston that he, Swaggy, or Bayleigh would not put him on the block next week to try to make him think that they are looking out for him just in case Winston wins HOH.

Now Swaggy is telling Faysal that if they win HOH they will still put Winston up anyway.  I hope this plan totally backfires on him.  I'm not even a Winston fan but I hate it when over confident people get everything to go their way.

[zorak]

Swaggy is telling Faysal about how before Faysal came in that he and Haleigh were talking.  Haleigh told Swaggy that Swaggy needs to "check" some people they hang out with (aka Kaitlyn) but didn't say any names.  Swaggy says he's been kind of snapping at Kaitlyn these last few days because Kaitlyn has been getting on his nerves.  Is it wrong that I hope this love triangle shit is a catalyst for our first fight this season?

[Callaphera]

12 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

Or WHO POURED OUT MY COKE CAN? drama. Remember that witchhunt for Alex's coke went on all summer? 

Or "You can have this cereal, I don't want any more."/"HOW DARE YOU EAT ALL MY CEREAL, YOU HEATHEN? Also, you're a shit dad." drama.

*sniffs, wipes away a tear* Memories...

[zorak]

Swaggy is telling Tyler of his plan to confront Winston.  Winston is telling Swaggy that it's a really good idea.  Ha!

I think it's veto ceremony time.  

[Katesus7]

Oh, there is GOING to be a thing between Kaitlyn and Hayleigh at some point over Faysal, and I am here for it. Showmance drama is the most ridiculous kind of drama. 

It’s sounding more and more that depending on who wins HOH, either Winston/Angela or Swaggy/Faysal are going to be targets next week. Honestly, I hope Winston and Swag go first and second out the door; I don’t care what order. Maybe then everyone else will calm the fuck down about how they’re going to steamroll the whole season.

[Growsonwalls]

5 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Or "You can have this cereal, I don't want any more."/"HOW DARE YOU EAT ALL MY CEREAL, YOU HEATHEN? Also, you're a shit dad." drama.

*sniffs, wipes away a tear* Memories...

And let's not forget Jason laughing about raping Kevin's wife and making Kevin's kids watch. Wow the BB19 cast was vile.

[Alice Mudgarden]

Swaggy is exhausting me just reading all this. I can't imagine what it's like to be trapped in that house with him.

[vb68]

I think I could handle Swaggy better than JC. I'm amazed there hasn't been a major confrontation with him yet.

[Alice Mudgarden]

18 minutes ago, vb68 said:

I think I could handle Swaggy better than JC. I'm amazed there hasn't been a major confrontation with him yet.

Oh, for sure. JC is a whole other level I wouldn't think to put Swaggy on, since Swaggy's not running around with ice cream scoopers and what not.

Edited July 1, 2018 by Alice Mudgarden

[Lady Calypso]

JC, Faysal, and Swaggy are three people I would have a hard time being around, that's for sure. JC's just gross and he's really inappropriate. Faysal is creepy and extremely possessive. Sure, Haleigh isn't being blunt and straightforward, but he isn't seeming to take her closed off body language seriously. Swaggy seems to be a decent person, but his cockiness is unattractive. At least Swaggy's egoism is entertaining, as is Winston's paranoia and Brett's douchiness, because it's all innocent at the moment (this is subject to change the more we get to know them, of course). 

[Growsonwalls]

Swaggy doesn't really bother me. I'm a teacher and work with a lot of inner city kids and I think they'd behave just like Swaggy if they went on Big Brother. Underneath they are mostly sweet kids but they like to act and put on a show. There's a lot of bravado there and it's ridiculous but easy to laugh off. I don't sense any viciousness in him. 

JC however -- if anything he's more inappropriate  than Frankie. Frankie only did that touching/grinding/dry humping thing with people he was in an alliance with and for whatever reason ALL of them seemed perfectly comfortable with it. Derrick, Cody, Caleb, and Zach all got into the act. It was weird to see Derrick jump into bed and do a group dry-hump but whatever. JC however is just randomly going up to people and sexually touching them without asking. 

[Caseysgirl]

So how often does production interfere when someone is being as gross and inappropriate on camera as JC?  He’s really irritating as hell and not nearly as entertaining as he thinks he is.

[TVFan17]

I have not yet been able to start actively watching the feeds for this season, and I have also missed all the episodes of Big Brother After Dark thus far.   Though I will eventually get to the feeds at some point,  all I have seen are the CBS episodes from Wednesday and Thursday, and about 10 minutes of the feeds 2 days ago.   Would anyone here be so kind as to give me the rundown on these things:

1.  Have any prominent alliances been formed?
2.  Is there a specific target for eviction, or someone that everyone in the house hates?
3.   Have any showmances begun?
4.  Who are the annoying ones this year?  Every year there are some annoying houseguests who stand out as being worse than others -- though sometimes it takes a while for them to show exactly how annoying they are.  lol
5.   Has anyone been bullied, ganged up on or shunned yet?
6.  Is anyone emerging as a "one to watch" -- someone smart who seems to be playing the game well, strategizing, etc.??

Thank you in advance!!

[Lady Calypso]

7 minutes ago, Caseysgirl said:

So how often does production interfere when someone is being as gross and inappropriate on camera as JC?  He’s really irritating as hell and not nearly as entertaining as he thinks he is.

Basically never, as far as I remember. They MIGHT even make a segment out of it, but nothing more than that. 

They rarely interfere unless things get really bad or if the backlash online is massive. 

[MrHufflepuff]

2 hours ago, zorak said:

Faysal got another Hamazon delivery.  They are discussing if once someone gets a punishment does it go away meaning nobody else can get that punishment.  

 

Martha Stewart:  The Prison Years

[peachmangosteen]

18 minutes ago, Caseysgirl said:

So how often does production interfere when someone is being as gross and inappropriate on camera as JC?  

Oh, Production doesn't give a shit. Dick threatened to rape Jen on like a daily basis and they never did a thing. In fact, they helped Dick win. Hell, they never even intervened in BB15 with all the racism. Sure, they called Aaryn out when she was evicted and have since tried to scrub BB15 from our consciousness, but they didn't call anyone else out or do anything to stop it in the house.

Edited July 1, 2018 by peachmangosteen

[Growsonwalls]

I haven't seen anyone cleaning a lot on the feeds. Usually in every season there's just one person who spends most of the time cleaning. Past cleaners: Jameka in BB8, April in BB10, Brendon in BB12, Shelly in BB13, Helen in BB15, Amber and Jocasta in BB17, I remember in S17 there was even some jealousy between Becky and the twins over the cleaning, as the three of them wanted to clean all the time. S18 resident cleaner with Victor. 

[Lady Calypso]

Just now, TVFan17 said:

I have not yet been able to start actively watching the feeds for this season, and I have also missed all the episodes of Big Brother After Dark thus far.   Though I will eventually get to the feeds at some point,  all I have seen are the CBS episodes from Wednesday and Thursday, and about 10 minutes of the feeds 2 days ago.   Would anyone here be so kind as to give me the rundown on these things:

1.  Have any prominent alliances been formed?
2.  Is there a specific target for eviction, or someone that everyone in the house hates?
3.   Have any showmances begun?
4.  Who are the annoying ones this year?  Every year there are some annoying houseguests who stand out as being worse than others -- though sometimes it takes a while for them to show exactly how annoying they are.  lol
5.   Has anyone been bullied, ganged up on or shunned yet?
6.  Is anyone emerging as a "one to watch" -- someone smart who seems to be playing the game well, strategizing, etc.??

Thank you in advance!!

1. There's two major house divides: there's the Swaggy side of the house, and the Winston side of the house. Then there are mini alliances within those divides. 

So, Swaggy's side includes: Bayleigh, Haleigh, Angie Rockstar, Kaitlyn, Faysal, Steve, and Scottie. Winston's side includes: Brett, Rachel, Angela, Kaycee, Tyler, and JC. Sam's the most in the middle, but leans more toward Winston's side. Tyler and JC are floating at the moment, but they have their chosen side when things eventually stop working with the other side.

But within Swaggy's alliance, Swaggy/Faysal are close, Haleigh/Angie/Kaitlyn are close, Bayleigh's close with Swaggy, and Steve/Scottie are close. On Winston's side, he has his bro Brett, then there's the main four of those two and Angela/Rachel, and then there's the six of all four plus Kaycee and Tyler. Tyler/JC seem to be close, Angela/Kaycee have been seen together a lot, and Sam/Tyler are close, as they've shared really big secrets with each other (Sam with her secret power, and Tyler with being a superfan).  

However, Swaggy's alliance is already starting to crack with the Love Triangle and Kaitlyn's jealousy over Haleigh. The boys are already taking note of Haleigh and Kaitlyn's flirtation being annoying. Rachel/Angela are already bitching about the flirtation as well and declaring they're "not like those girls". But Winston's side, named Level 6 (which is everyone but JC/Sam for their alliance), haven't shown cracks yet, so they seem to be pretty close for the moment. That could easily change, but for now, Swaggy's side is more unstable than Winston's. 

2. Sam/Steve are up for eviction and as of the moment, Sam's set to be evicted. But there are other targets that people want. On Swaggy's side, they want to get Angela and Winston out. On Winston's side, they want Swaggy out and they don't like various members of that side. Tyler's also a name being thrown out as a target by Swaggy due to him flip flopping and not backdooring Angela (he was gonna backdoor Bayleigh, mostly so the veto isn't used). Everyone kind of has beef with someone else in the house, which is hilarious.

3. Swaggy/Bayleigh are a showmance but are pretending just to be more like brother and sister, despite the fact that Winston, and everyone else, already knows. Swaggy's side is pretty heavily showmantic in a complicated way. Faysal's interested in Haleigh, who has been flirting with him, Brett, and Tyler (who has a crush on Haleigh). Kaitlyn's interested in Faysal despite the fact that she has a boyfriend in real life, and she's been flirting with Faysal, Tyler, and Brett. Nobody wants to be with Winston because of his personality, which is hilarious. 

4. There's a few annoying ones, but it depends on who you're asking. Swaggy's very egoistical, which can be annoying or hilarious. Winston's a paranoid mess. JC's pretty obnoxious. Faysal's creepy. Angie's annoying sometimes. Steve's a bit annoying. It's really everyone in some way, but some more than others. 

5. Sam's been isolated for most of the time because she's had to be a robot pretty much every other day, but she's finally bridging some trust with Winston's side of the house and only Angie on Swaggy's side. There's been the start of the Bitching Fests with houseguests, so that'll intensify in the next week or two.

6. Some are playing well, and others aren't. At the moment, I'd say Tyler is the one to watch. He's the HOH, but keeps getting fed EVERYTHING from everyone. Kaycee is also flying under the radar and is playing a decently quiet game.

I think I got everything and don't think anything was misinterpreted, but anyone else can chime in with any additional info or corrections. 

[missyb]

I am always amused by HG's who say they are there to make big moves, other side can't make a big move, I'l make a big move. Then they get HOH and they do the safe thing. Kaitlin is a big talker.  Big talker until they get the HOH .She would be doing big moves.  Win the HOH and lets see!

[zorak]

3 minutes ago, missyb said:

Win the HOH and lets see!

But she can't possibly win HOH because Swaggy and Faysal have already planned to keep winning it.

[Lady Calypso]

Feeds are back. 

Tyler/Sam are chatting in HOH right now.

[zorak]

Sam is convinced that Scottie is going to vote for her to stay even though he's said he's with Steve.

[missyb]

I like how Tyler plays. Sam thinks that they ( or her) should spread a rumor that JC has the power. Tyler does not think that is a good idea. He knows the other side will try and nominate the person who they think has the power to get them to use it. Sam thinks she has Kaitlin's vote ( slap to head). She thinks that Kaitlin thinks for Haliegh. Meanwhile, Tyler has spent tons of time with Haleigh and knows better.  Sam thinks she is reading people but Tyler's take is much better. Either Sam has really been hurt by not being able to be around the HG's while RobotSam or she just cant play this game.

I'm dying. Tyler is trying to explain things to Sam and she just doesn't get it. She does not understand this is a numbers game. She is driving me crazy.

Edited July 1, 2018 by missyb

[zorak]

She is clueless.  Tyler is trying to explain to her that Swaggy's side wants to keep Steve over her because they already threw out a life vest to Steve and he grabbed on, whereas they haven't done that with her.  She said, "How do you know that's not coming?"

[Lady Calypso]

1 minute ago, missyb said:

I like how Tyler plays. Sam thinks that they ( or her) should spread a rumor that JC has the power. Tyler does not think that is a good idea. He knows the other side will try and nominate the person who they think has the power to get them to use it. Sam thinks she has Kaitlin's vote ( slap to head). She thinks that Kaitlin thinks for Haliegh. Meanwhile, Tyler has spent tons of time with Haleigh and knows better.  Sam thinks she is reading people but Tyler's take is much better. Either Sam has really been hurt by not being able to be around the HG's while RobotSam or she just cant play this game.

Sam/Tyler is my favourite duo. He's trying to help her out with game stuff and she is trying to learn how to really play. That's why I don't mind her sticking around; I want to see if she can learn to be a good gameplayer. 

Either way, Sam will learn come eviction night when she does have to use her power. 

[zorak]

She also seemed to think that because she does dishes and things like that that that makes her more valuable to keep around.  Tyler had to spell it out for her that it's not about who does dishes.  It's about having the numbers and Steve is a number for the other side.

[TVFan17]

9 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

1. There's two major house divides: there's the Swaggy side of the house, and the Winston side of the house. Then there are mini alliances within those divides. 

So, Swaggy's side includes: Bayleigh, Haleigh, Angie Rockstar, Kaitlyn, Faysal, Steve, and Scottie. Winston's side includes: Brett, Rachel, Angela, Kaycee, Tyler, and JC. Sam's the most in the middle, but leans more toward Winston's side. Tyler and JC are floating at the moment, but they have their chosen side when things eventually stop working with the other side.

But within Swaggy's alliance, Swaggy/Faysal are close, Haleigh/Angie/Kaitlyn are close, Bayleigh's close with Swaggy, and Steve/Scottie are close. On Winston's side, he has his bro Brett, then there's the main four of those two and Angela/Rachel, and then there's the six of all four plus Kaycee and Tyler. Tyler/JC seem to be close, Angela/Kaycee have been seen together a lot, and Sam/Tyler are close, as they've shared really big secrets with each other (Sam with her secret power, and Tyler with being a superfan).  

However, Swaggy's alliance is already starting to crack with the Love Triangle and Kaitlyn's jealousy over Haleigh. The boys are already taking note of Haleigh and Kaitlyn's flirtation being annoying. Rachel/Angela are already bitching about the flirtation as well and declaring they're "not like those girls". But Winston's side, named Level 6 (which is everyone but JC/Sam for their alliance), haven't shown cracks yet, so they seem to be pretty close for the moment. That could easily change, but for now, Swaggy's side is more unstable than Winston's. 

2. Sam/Steve are up for eviction and as of the moment, Sam's set to be evicted. But there are other targets that people want. On Swaggy's side, they want to get Angela and Winston out. On Winston's side, they want Swaggy out and they don't like various members of that side. Tyler's also a name being thrown out as a target by Swaggy due to him flip flopping and not backdooring Angela (he was gonna backdoor Bayleigh, mostly so the veto isn't used). Everyone kind of has beef with someone else in the house, which is hilarious.

3. Swaggy/Bayleigh are a showmance but are pretending just to be more like brother and sister, despite the fact that Winston, and everyone else, already knows. Swaggy's side is pretty heavily showmantic in a complicated way. Faysal's interested in Haleigh, who has been flirting with him, Brett, and Tyler (who has a crush on Haleigh). Kaitlyn's interested in Faysal despite the fact that she has a boyfriend in real life, and she's been flirting with Faysal, Tyler, and Brett. Nobody wants to be with Winston because of his personality, which is hilarious. 

4. There's a few annoying ones, but it depends on who you're asking. Swaggy's very egoistical, which can be annoying or hilarious. Winston's a paranoid mess. JC's pretty obnoxious. Faysal's creepy. Angie's annoying sometimes. Steve's a bit annoying. It's really everyone in some way, but some more than others. 

5. Sam's been isolated for most of the time because she's had to be a robot pretty much every other day, but she's finally bridging some trust with Winston's side of the house and only Angie on Swaggy's side. There's been the start of the Bitching Fests with houseguests, so that'll intensify in the next week or two.

6. Some are playing well, and others aren't. At the moment, I'd say Tyler is the one to watch. He's the HOH, but keeps getting fed EVERYTHING from everyone. Kaycee is also flying under the radar and is playing a decently quiet game.

I think I got everything and don't think anything was misinterpreted, but anyone else can chime in with any additional info or corrections. 

Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you so much, Lady Calypso!   I truly appreciate it.   I am sending you a big cyber hug!   Even though the season just began and the feeds just went live a few days ago, I feel as though I have missed one entire month of developments!   lol   In just a couple of days on this show, as we all know, important things can happen in the house.  I am hoping to be able to get into the swing of the feeds sometime in this upcoming week, but I was completely out of the loop. 

I did wonder if the whole Sam-as-a-robot thing would get old to the viewers after a while.  It was funny at first, but I suspected that it could wear out its welcome fairly soon.   At least it can't go on for the whole season, and has a definite end date.

[Lady Calypso]

3 minutes ago, TVFan17 said:

I did wonder if the whole Sam-as-a-robot thing would get old to the viewers after a while.  It was funny at first, but I suspected that it could wear out its welcome fairly soon.   At least it can't go on for the whole season, and has a definite end date.

Well, it's only a few episodes for BB viewers, but for Sam, it'll be two weeks. It sucks for her because she's missed out on a lot of important bonding moments, so it's taken her this long to finally find a footing with a group. 

She also will 100% be sticking around past this week, despite being the target, but will be lasting at least a few more weeks while other targets are formed. 

[zorak]

Rockstar just announced that she is going to paint her nails black.  How very edgy of her.  She says she's going to paint them black like her soul.  Then she says that it's not true.  Her soul is actually rainbow.  I can't stand this woman.  

[Growsonwalls]

3 minutes ago, zorak said:

Rockstar just announced that she is going to paint her nails black.  How very edgy of her.  She says she's going to paint them black like her soul.  Then she says that it's not true.  Her soul is actually rainbow.  I can't stand this woman.  

The Sam as Robot thing for me was a good litmus test of who has potential to go far in this game. After the initial awkwardness of talking with a robot there were those who continued to treat the Robot as, well, a robot, and those who were smart/empathetic enough to interact with the Robot completely as if it was just Sam in robot form. Tyler and Rachel are by far the best at doing this.

[zorak]

Swaggy: "I guess it's a good thing prom is canceled."  Oh darn.