Spoilers and Speculation: Clink Boom and Cheese Fondue

[Badsamaritan]

Cosign on RC/FV loving Roger/Todd/OLTL more than giving a shit about any of the established actors. RoHo was brought in and 50 sumthin Franco has been in A stories ever since. They've had him wookin pa nub with 3 different women in 4 years. On the other side of the coin, you have Father Doctor Griffin, a character in the 18-34 y.o. range, single, a DOCTOR, and he still hasn't gotten laid, has he? They should be throwing every available female at a character like that for fuck's sake. But naw, let's take another female hostage, shackle her to the murderhobo, twist every single one of her character traits into a pathetic mess in order to champion him, and see if this one sticks. 

[yowsah1]

6 hours ago, ulkis said:

And Sonny still got a ton of stuff to do. It was just in MB's mind he wasn't getting enough to do.

Not only that, under RC's pen, Sonny would actually....GASP!!!!... lose once in a while.

[IWantCandy71]

7 hours ago, Chairperson Meow said:

Yeah.  I think they loved/love Roger.  Roger loves the paycheck and perks.  I don't blame him, but I'd like to see alleged diva Roger who refused certain stories.  That Roger wouldn't have played Franco.  

You know, I hear that said a lot-that actors would refuse stories, but I don't know how much of that I believe. I think most of these actors have had stories(and maybe even costars) they hated. But I think anyone who likes to keep their lights on and food on the table, doesn't pull the diva act too often, if at all. Especially these days. Not only is it obvious anyone's expendable- they can be replaced with much cheaper actors. I think the days of any of these actors storming off a set to get their way died with the mid nineties, if it ever happened at all. 95/96 was the beginning of the ratings declines, when soaps on every network started dropping like flies, year by year.

Edited May 23, 2017 by IWantCandy71

[IWantCandy71]

1 hour ago, yowsah1 said:

Not only that, under RC's pen, Sonny would actually....GASP!!!!... lose once in a while.

RC wrote Sonny and Jason as losers if he wrote for them at all. I think MB AND SBu hated that. I think Ron writing Jason as the pile of stink he is, is part of the reason SBu left. 

Edited May 23, 2017 by IWantCandy71

[coffee drinker]

6 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said:

RC wrote Sonny and Jason as losers if he wrote for them at all. I think MB AND SBu hated that. I think Ron writing Jason as the pile of stink he is, is part of the reason SBu left. 

Agreed.  Burton had to be chaffing at being the 3rd wheel big bad to the McBain/and Jason's spouse pairing.  He'd never, ever suffered that sort of writing with Guza/JFP.  Notice how quickly he found a place to land with his benefactor JFP over at Y&R.  And how he left that role when she did.  

[rur]

15 hours ago, Chairperson Meow said:

Yeah.  I think they loved/love Roger.  Roger loves the paycheck and perks.  I don't blame him, but I'd like to see alleged diva Roger who refused certain stories.  That Roger wouldn't have played Franco.  

 

8 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said:

You know, I hear that said a lot-that actors would refuse stories, but I don't know how much of that I believe. I think most of these actors have had stories(and maybe even costars) they hated. But I think anyone who likes to keep their lights on and food on the table, doesn't pull the diva act too often, if at all. Especially these days. Not only is it obvious anyone's expendable- they can be replaced with much cheaper actors. I think the days of any of these actors storming off a set to get their way died with the mid nineties, if it ever happened at all. 

Roger may have never refused a story, but we have been subjected to him half-assing his role for considerable lengths of time when he apparently didn't like the storyline. That, to me, is far more egregious since it affects ratings, and ratings eventually affect the jobs of everyone involved with the show. 

[ulkis]

#Melle
Michael is reminded of all the positive things he saw in her. For them to move forward as a couple, they must face Carly's wrath #GH

#Lante
Opportunity to bring Charlotte more into the family fold. Dante develops his own bond w/ her. He also gets pulled into Sonny's world

Griffin 
His role as a doctor becomes important in many storylines. One will take a personal turn. He will finally get a love interest #GH

Ava 
She has a day of reckoning and must come to terms with her past as she contemplates a very different kind of future #GH

#Killon
Kiki is faced w/ some difficult choices when she learns the truth about Ava. Dillon must deal with a reorganization of the Q family

#Niv
Romantic summer. Olivia becomes the grand dame of the Q mansion #GH

#Cordan
Finally get together but a surprising complication arises for Curtis #GH

so much "no" in these spoilers. Dante bonding with Charlotte would be cute if it weren't for trading off with Sonny scenes. Ew. Carly being a bitch again could also be fun times if it weren't to be the obstacle for Michael and Nelle, lord.

Edited May 23, 2017 by ulkis

[OnceSane]

12 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Olivia becomes the grand dame of the Q mansion

This is the worst thing I've read in a while.

[Oracle42]

Those spoilers have achieved a new and exciting level of terribleness

[ulkis]

6 minutes ago, OnceSane said:

This is the worst thing I've read in a while.

this time, Maura West will don a Lila wig in a special double role and be seen burning down the Q mansion.

More:

#Jasam 
Jason gets pulled into something from Sonnys past which ignites a fire in Sam. Sam becomes obsessed w/ a surprising enemy #GH

#Julexis
Alexis is forced to examine the role she wants to play in Julian's trial and in his life. Their future remains complicated #GH

#Friz
They remain a couple and plan on moving in together. Liz will be involved with some issues related to Hayden #GH

#Kevlar 
Involved with Spencer and must make accommodations to their relationship. Spencer has a mission and a surprising foe to face #GH

Anna/Valentin/Nina
Anna and Andre test the romantic waters for a little bit. Nina & Valentin's relationship will be severely challenged #GH

Oh! So that's why Laura and Kevin weren't doing anything. They had to wait for Nicholas Brechtel to come back!

w.t.f.

Robin doesn't go to the Nurses' Ball #GH

Valentin sings #GH

Jake gets upset when his magic trick doesn't work, he tells Liz he won't perform #GH

Jason, Liz, Franco, Anna, Griffin, and Andre piece together Jake's coonection to the chimera but assume he only saw the symbol on CI #GH

Jason worries #GH

Jake sees a vision of Helena who reminds him what he must do. He tells Liz he'll perform #GH

#CarSon learn that Ava was responsible for the pill switch. Ava tries to flee but they corner her at the art gallery #GH

Martina is gone...for now #GH

#Friz and #Jasam fans rejoice. They finally move on to separate storylines 


Showdown between Anna and Valentin #GH

#CarSon will get closer in the aftermath of the pill reveal #GH

Wk of 6/5 Laura gets a surprise visit #GH

Wk of 6/5 Ava faces a life of agony #GH MW has a great upcoming storyline and yes it does appear Griffin will play a role in it

Wk of 6/5 Valentin makes a rash decision concerning Charlotte #GH

Wk of 6/5 Sonny and Jason take stock of their lives #Sason #GH

Wk of 6/5 Liz has an offer for Franco #Friz #GH
 

Edited May 23, 2017 by ulkis

[dubbel zout]

11 minutes ago, OnceSane said:

23 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Olivia becomes the grand dame of the Q mansion

This is the worst thing I've read in a while.

It's not even her house! (This is one of the few times that stupid joke is pertinent.)

5 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Liz will be involved with some issues related to Hayden

Oh, so now the writers remember they're sisters?

7 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Valentin sings #GH

Please let it be "Desperado." Please let it be "Desperado." Please let it be "Desperado." Please let it be "Desperado." Please let it be "Desperado." Please let it be "Desperado." Please let it be "Desperado." 

8 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Wk of 6/5 Ava faces a life of agony #GH MW has a great upcoming storyline and yes it does appear Griffin will play a role in it

I wonder if her cancer returns, and this is how she weasels out of any consequences for switching Morgan's pills? 

[Cheyanne11]

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Wk of 6/5 Ava faces a life of agony #GH MW has a great upcoming storyline and yes it does appear Griffin will play a role in it

I bet she gets some serious burns in the fire she starts.

[ulkis]

23 minutes ago, OnceSane said:

This is the worst thing I've read in a while.

Oh yeah, OnceSane? What about THIS:

Nathan/Amy 
Amy pulls him into a project he has no idea abt & quickly gets in over his head. Long distance relationship w/ Maxie continues
 

There are also these, but I'm not putting them on the level of the aforesaid spoiler.

There will be a wedding this summer #GH

Young Set 
Kristina continues her journey of self-evaluation. Young romances blossom. Joss expands her horizon. A new face pops up #GH

[Oracle42]

2 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I wonder if her cancer returns, and this is how she weasels out of any consequences for switching Morgan's pills? 

It's how she weaseled her way out of paying for Kate and  AJ's deaths

[TeeVee329]

15 minutes ago, ulkis said:

#Kevlar 
Involved with Spencer and must make accommodations to their relationship. Spencer has a mission and a surprising foe to face #GH

Oh gawd, Kevin and Laura's whole summer storyline is really a Spencer story?  What have I done to deserve this?!?!

[ulkis]

1 minute ago, TeeVee329 said:

Oh gawd, Kevin and Laura's whole summer storyline is really a Spencer story?  What have I done to deserve this?!?!

Not learn to appreciate Spencer enough?

I could kinda understand these spoilers if Spencer were now a teen. But he's not. Why. Is. Frank. Obsessed. With. This. Friggin. Kid. 

[TeeVee329]

4 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Young Set 
Kristina continues her journey of self-evaluation. Young romances blossom. Joss expands her horizon. A new face pops up #GH

How can one continue a journey of self-evaluation that's been in stall mode since last fall?

I read a RUMOR on Twitter that the show was bringing in some teens for Joss' orbit.  If one of them's not Cam, I'm gonna set something on fire.

[dubbel zout]

4 minutes ago, Oracle42 said:

It's how she weaseled her way out of paying for Kate and  AJ's deaths

Cancer: the get-out-of-jail-free card. (If only.)

1 minute ago, TeeVee329 said:

If one of them's not Cam,

Who?

[statsgirl]

Why can't they write a decent teen storyline? Or young adult storyline?  Anything to get us out of this endless Sonny/Carly, Jasam, Friz, crap.

And the endless battles over who owns the children.  I remember when Anna told Robert that she didn't tell him about Robin because she didn't want it to affect his marriage to Holly.

It's not only bad writing, it's lazy writing.

[TeeVee329]

45 minutes ago, ulkis said:

 Liz will be involved with some issues related to [Rebecca Budig] #GH

Probably stuff with Rebecca Budig's pregnancy/becoming a mom, never mind that Liz regularly forgets about two of her own children.

Edited May 23, 2017 by TeeVee329

[OnceSane]

2 hours ago, ulkis said:

Oh yeah, OnceSane? What about THIS:

Nathan/Amy 
Amy pulls him into a project he has no idea abt & quickly gets in over his head. Long distance relationship w/ Maxie continues
 

There are also these, but I'm not putting them on the level of the aforesaid spoiler.

There will be a wedding this summer #GH

Young Set 
Kristina continues her journey of self-evaluation. Young romances blossom. Joss expands her horizon. A new face pops up #GH

Pfft…the Queen Liv one is still worse, the rest is just typical summer fare.

And why are you trying to hurt me, @ulkis?  I haven't even slept with your lawyer yet!

[LexieLily]

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Oh gawd, Kevin and Laura's whole summer storyline is really a Spencer story?  What have I done to deserve this?!?!

 

3 hours ago, ulkis said:

#KevLaur
Involved with Spencer and must make accommodations to their relationship. Spencer has a mission and a surprising foe to face #GH

Will we finally find out that Laura moved in with Kevin off-screen and Spencer will be staying with them, or are we supposed to still assume that Laura lives with Lulu/Dante/Rocco even though there was no mention of her at Chocolate Chip Family Breakfast?

[TeeVee329]

I dunno, Kevin and Laura living together with stupid Spencer would require a set.  Are they gonna give Kevin and Laura a house set?

Edited May 23, 2017 by TeeVee329

[Oracle42]

I have an idea! What if they had a brownstone set that could be used for multiple characters just by changing out the furnishings! 

Edited May 23, 2017 by Oracle42

[dubbel zout]

Too bad Spencer isn't spending the summer with a nanny at the house in Italy.

[TeeVee329]

5 minutes ago, Oracle42 said:

I have an idea! What if they had a brownstone set that could be used for multiple characters just by changing out the furnishings! 

Now you're just talking crazy!

[peachmangosteen]

I'm disappointed that none of those spoilers are so bad they could go around to good. They're all just boring.

[LexieLily]

32 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

I dunno, Kevin and Laura living together with stupid Spencer would require a set.  Are they gonna give Kevin and Laura a house set?

Well, they gave Kevin a porch and a front door, and he does have a bedroom. Just chop off half of Anna's gigundo house that is way too large for one person and give it to Kevin (and Laura).

If Lulu expects to get custody of Charlotte she'll need a bedroom. I assume she would get Laura's unless Lulu and Dante are rude and make Laura sleep on the couch. 

[TeeVee329]

Meanwhile, nothing in the spoilers really sounded like it was paving the way for Lulu to be off-canvas.  Is she just going to be in another room the whole time, while Dante forms his own bond with Charlotte?

[dubbel zout]

When Bree Williamson was pregnant on OLTL, they sent Jessica upstairs for a three-month nap. Maybe that's what they'll do with Lulu, heh.

[ulkis]

probably. 

[TeeVee329]

I guess.  I wanted Lulu and Charlotte to go on the run so I'd be spared both of them. #frownyface

Edited May 23, 2017 by TeeVee329

[TeeVee329]

So apparently, Jamey Giddens made mention in his site's podcast that a "big get" for GH was leaving the show or wanted out of the show or something.  People were speculating on Twitter and then Jamey posted this hint:

I think we have our answer lol.

Edited May 23, 2017 by TeeVee329

[jsbt]

7 hours ago, ulkis said:

Ava 
She has a day of reckoning and must come to terms with her past as she contemplates a very different kind of future #GH

As Carly Snyder.

This shit all sounds so awful/boring. Like, it's stunning.

Edited May 24, 2017 by jsbt

[WendyCR72]

<Reads last few pages of thread, gets bored, has no clue what is going on, realizes everything is still terrible, walks out again>

[peachmangosteen]

13 hours ago, jsbt said:

This shit all sounds so awful/boring. Like, it's stunning.

Right! I am surprised every week but just how much further this show goes down the toilet. Although I don't know why, it's been falling steadily for like probably at least a year.

[IWantCandy71]

On ‎5‎/‎23‎/‎2017 at 5:51 AM, coffee drinker said:

Agreed.  Burton had to be chaffing at being the 3rd wheel big bad to the McBain/and Jason's spouse pairing.  He'd never, ever suffered that sort of writing with Guza/JFP.  Notice how quickly he found a place to land with his benefactor JFP over at Y&R.  And how he left that role when she did.  

It was pretty blatant, wasn't it? :)

On ‎5‎/‎23‎/‎2017 at 7:59 AM, rur said:

Roger may have never refused a story, but we have been subjected to him half-assing his role for considerable lengths of time when he apparently didn't like the storyline.

Lots of the actors has been doing that for decades(KeMo, SBu when he was on, Billy Miller now..., Maurice, Nancy....the list goes on).Bottom line is that probably half the cast stopped trying a long time ago, and that's sad. Ten years ago I would've said GH had one of the most talented casts on television, much less daytime. Now? You can FEEL the "don't care". It's like a physical presence, it's so strong. And no, it's not okay. You're being paid to do a job. Do it well, or get out. The bad writing excuse only gets you a thimble full of sympathy. The rest is on you as an actor. Jane Elliot came in and busted it up every DAY and she got CRAP most of the time, and what she did get was rarely about Tracy.

There is ZERO reason everyone else shouldn't do the same.

 

Ava facing a life of agony is no less than what she deserves.

I really hope ME is leaving, but they should have begged Jane to stay a little longer and wrote Finn going off with Tracy.

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becoming a mom

I saw this at first as "becoming a man". Considering she's pregnant, I thought "finally, something interesting". Then I realized I misread. Remember the old rumors about Griffin being Claudette? Yeah. The rumors of what might happen are always more discussion worthy than what actually takes place.

Edited May 24, 2017 by IWantCandy71

[TeeVee329]

Hmmm I wonder if that's why Liz gets all up in Rebecca Budig's business - Dr. Michael Easton dies or fucks off and Rebecca Budig is faced with raising her baby solo.

[tvgoddess]

If they're finally giving Ava a story worthy of Maura's talent, I'll be thrilled. But the likelihood and chances of that are about as good as me becoming the next President.

I will give them points though if they give her any story devoid of the gruesome twosome.

[IWantCandy71]

Liz has never needed a reason to get in anyone's business. She's a lot like Laura in that respect.

[IWantCandy71]

7 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Right! I am surprised every week but just how much further this show goes down the toilet. Although I don't know why, it's been falling steadily for like probably at least a year a decade.

Fixed that for you.

[Oracle42]

On 5/23/2017 at 1:53 PM, ulkis said:

#Friz
They remain a couple and plan on moving in together.

Of course they will, Franco doesn't pay for his own housing 

[stlbf]

13 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Hmmm I wonder if that's why Liz gets all up in Rebecca Budig's business - Dr. Michael Easton dies or fucks off and Rebecca Budig is faced with raising her baby solo.

Like Liz would get to do anything outside of Franco or Jason! Her own freaking "rapist gets out of prison" storyline wasn't ever about her! I would love to just have her drop a line about calling her real siblings, Sarah and Steve. Maybe say she talked to them about Jake or some attitude issues of a teen Cam.

I would wager that Liz and HayChel get into it over Franco and the hospital. Why else?

[Chairperson Meow]

I want to see Dr Micheal Easton get killed and Ava is framed.  Then, that kicks off a serial killer storyline, who kills everyone.  Greenlee, Franco, etc.  

[IWantCandy71]

2 hours ago, Chairperson Meow said:

I want to see Dr Micheal Easton get killed and Ava is framed.  Then, that kicks off a serial killer storyline, who kills everyone.  Greenlee, Franco, etc.  

I guess I have fondness for Finn because of Tracy, and I'd much rather he just left town, because Tracy has a job for him. I don't have a problem with him leaving, though-hey, I'm not watching. I will tune in for the Niv wedding-even though Olivia bores me to no end-and if I hear of the Qs getting good stuff, I'll watch clips. Otherwise, the show is nonexistent as far as I'm concerned. I couldn't care less about pretty much every other character.

I like the idea of killing a bunch of folks off-my only problem with that? If the show goes on, it gets re-populated AGAIN with a bunch of people the audience doesn't know-even if they are related to core families or returning old characters.

[sunnyface]

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I like the idea of killing a bunch of folks off-my only problem with that? If the show goes on, it gets re-populated AGAIN

They can kill off Sonny/Carly/Jason/Franco and there still would be too many characters.

Edited May 26, 2017 by sunnyface
Sonny

[Oracle42]

I don't think there are necessarily too many characters. I think there are too many on contract, and most of them are missing both story and purpose. And after 4 years (it's been 4 years, right?) the writers still haven't bothered to get a grip on the existing characters or to provide necessary character development for the new characters. 

The show has no identity, it's just a mess of actors FV thinks he needs to have to keep the show on the air and the ones he actually wants - and he's jammed them in, like puzzle pieces that don't fit, without doing the work of trying to integrate them, so that they work on this particular soap. 

Edited May 26, 2017 by Oracle42

[dubbel zout]

We complained about the lack of cast integration with Ron; I think block taping, for whatever reason, does an especial number on that. I don't know if contract vs. recurring would be such an issue if the stories were better distributed and paced. Too many people aren't in stories they should be in, and too many people are in stories they shouldn't be in.

[Asp Burger]

I felt watching Friday's show that I could see the return of Morgan coming from a mile off. They pretty much have to, at this point, especially if the plan is to keep Ava long term. Then Sonny and Carly can still hate her (their son is alive but "no thanks to [her]!") but not to a homicidal degree. The story will be something about him being thrown clear of the blast and wandering around with amnesia. If it isn't going to be Bry-Dawg (and Laura Wright seemed so firm that a Bry-Dawg return would not happen, ever), they can make the character's new face part of the story or not. I'll feel even more that this is coming if Dillon and Kiki get more serious. 

There is a long term, right? I wonder what the cancellation odds are these days. 

Edited May 27, 2017 by Asp Burger

[Chairperson Meow]

Is it too much to ask that a new Morgan won't be tainted by acting advice from Mo?  Let Laura Wright coach him.  Because Bry Dawg was decent till he started imitating Mo.