"The View": Week Of 2/12/18

[blondiec0332]

2 minutes ago, jumper sage said:

She, herself, called herself a ho. 

I did laugh though when she said yes I was a ho and I'm not the only one in the room who was.

[Apprentice79]

3 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

I did laugh though when she said yes I was a ho and I'm not the only one in the room who was.

I actually laughed out loud when Sherry said it. It felt like a comment that somebody would say, when talking to their friends. That is what the view was intended to be. Joy got a kick out of that comment, even Megan cracked a smile..

Edited February 12, 2018 by Apprentice79

[GHScorpiosRule]

19 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

She was trying to say once you start with foreplay you can't back out.  But she was afraid of getting bleeped by the censors.

Which is a bunch of hooey. I've been in situations where I enjoyed the foreplay, but didn't what came after and said no, and no harm, no foul. And we went out again. So STFU, Whoopi!

12 minutes ago, WhitneyWhit said:

And I have a lot of issues with the woman who accused Asari Aziz but saying that a woman loses the right to say no because she goes to a man's house is a new level of stupid.

It's Aziz Ansari.

As for Sherri loving 50 Shades of SUCK, well, I remember when those "books" first came out, and Sherri acted as if someone had finally written soft core porn or something. And I recall saying, clearly she'd never read Susan Johnson or Robin Schone, who are far SUPERIOR in writing that kind of sex than this hack wannabe writer James is.

Edited February 12, 2018 by GHScorpiosRule

[sugarbaker design]

3 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And I recall saying, clearly she'd never read Susan Johnson or Robin Schone, who are far SUPERIOR in writing that kind of sex than this hack wannabe writer James is.

Or Anne Rice's Beauty series.  Way better.

[Medicine Crow]

17 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

I must've missed that part but even so, who says a woman can't back out once foreplay starts? That's still not a very positive message.

Yup. She's said it numerous times on the show. Maybe it doesn't exist for her, but to act as if the same is true for all women seems a bit unfair on her part.

Unfair???  More like totally ignorant of real life & the FACTS!!!

[imjagain]

7 minutes ago, WhitneyWhit said:

Let's all imagine the Olympics were being held in the US right now and a world leader refused to stand for USA, or refused to sit in the VIP box with Trump, MM would be calling for their heads right now and order them out of her country. Pence acted like a disrespectful ass at the opening ceremony and I actually agreed with Whoopi, if you can't show respect then don't go. 

 

And I have a lot of issues with the woman who accused Asari Aziz but saying that a woman loses the right to say no because she goes to a man's house is a new level of stupid.

Me too, regarding the Aziz accuser . There is many things wrong with the story. It's a complicated story that I have issues with. But yeah I can go to man house and not be expected to have sex. Whoopi is ridiculous.  

As a teen I went to a guys house. He went to the bathroom came out naked , I left immediately.  I didn't just say well hell I came here guess we must have sex. Jerk still told everyone we did. Ugh poor teenage me. I was so hard on myself, for going to his home.  

[blondiec0332]

5 minutes ago, imjagain said:

As a teen I went to a guys house. He went to the bathroom came out naked , I left immediately.  I didn't just say well hell I came here guess we must have sex. Jerk still told everyone we did. Ugh poor teenage me. I was so hard on myself, for going to his home.  

And that still happens today because of people like Whoopi saying women should have known better or you know what  you are signing up for.

[Apprentice79]

6 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

And that still happens today because of people like Whoopi saying women should have known better or you know what  you are signing up for.

It reinforces rape culture that deprives women agency, when it comes to their own bodies. 

[TheGreenKnight]

2 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

I did laugh though when she said yes I was a ho and I'm not the only one in the room who was.

I laughed, too, I'll admit, and that's rarely happened because of something Sherri said.

About Whoopi's comments, I'm glad Joy argued with her at the end there about how you can still say no even after you've gone to someone's apartment. I thought Sunny would be the one who'd have to say it, since she was the one who disagreed with Whoopi the last time they talked about the Aziz story.

[GHScorpiosRule]

35 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

 

About Whoopi's comments, I'm glad Joy argued with her at the end there about how you can still say no even after you've gone to someone's apartment. I thought Sunny would be the one who'd have to say it, since she was the one who disagreed with Whoopi the last time they talked about the Aziz story.

That's the problem I'm having. The host already talked about this when the story first broke, and I recall rolling my eyes at Sunny's coy question "what about if I just want to make out?" when going to the guy's home. What's the point of trotting it out again? It sounds like the same old same old. What was different today?

And just like last week, when Sunny read some law or statement--a statement she had originally read the day before!

[CheezyXpressed]

3 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

That's the problem I'm having. The host already talked about this when the story first broke, and I recall rolling my eyes at Sunny's coy question "what about if I just want to make out?" when going to the guy's home. What's the point of trotting it out again? It sounds like the same old same old. What was different today?

And just like last week, when Sunny read some law or statement--a statement she had originally read the day before!

There wasn't anything different. Sherri just mentioned that on top of raising her son to respect women, she feels like she also needs to teach him on non verbal cues. Men and women like to talk about how attractive someone is, but (and this is a double standard) when guys talk about women it might make women look at them weird and think certain things. Sherri also brought that up when she got worried about her son talking about a hot girl, which is fine, but there are people who might say something else. So there's all of these things that parents need to teach their sons and daughters, because there are nuances regarding MeToo and flirty interactions.

Unfortunately, Whoopi then went on and on about how everything needs to be verbal, which is true, but Sherri wasn't talking about that. Consent kept being brought up, which is great, but not what Sherri was talking about.

Though, I'm not going to lie. It was kind of funny seeing Sherri getting more and more frustrated as the table completely missed her point and kept talking about something else.

[NotinKansasanymore]

I’m sorry but Whoopi going off on Trump’s speech about wishing Porter well and saying that Porter claims he’s innocent Is so hypocritical!!

whoopi you stated on the View to remember Cosby said he was innocent and that until he had due process they are just accusations, until he is found guilty in a court of law. Remember that Whoopi? Remember when you said to Rosie we don’t know the Cosby accusers motives and they could be doing it for money? 

Come on! She defends her famous friends! Cosby, Palenski, Vick, Gibson, etc.

so dont Cast too many stones there Whoopi defending abusers!

[rcc]

Whoopi will always think her actor friends should get the benefit of the doubt no matter how much evidence there is.

[Apprentice79]

11 minutes ago, NotinKansasanymore said:

I’m sorry but Whoopi going off on Trump’s speech about wishing Porter well and saying that Porter claims he’s innocent Is so hypocritical!!

whoopi you stated on the View to remember Cosby said he was innocent and that until he had due process they are just accusations, until he is found guilty in a court of law. Remember that Whoopi? Remember when you said to Rosie we don’t know the Cosby accusers motives and they could be doing it for money? 

Come on! She defends her famous friends! Cosby, Palenski, Vick, Gibson, etc.

so dont Cast too many stones there Whoopi defending abusers!

Don't forget how she responded to her critics about her staunch defense, of Cosby. By lashing out, at them, on the show.  Her diatribe that day was disgusting.  Whoopie at her worst, arrogant, condescending, smug and ignorant.

Edited February 12, 2018 by Apprentice79

[GHScorpiosRule]

4 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Don't forget how she responded to her critics about her staunch defense, of Cosby. By lashing out, at them, on the show.  Her diatribe that day was disgusting.  Whoopie at her worst, arrogant, condescending, smug and ignorant.

And then Dan Abrams had to sit her down, like some child, and point by point, have him "explain" to her why he was being charged. And then Whoopi's disingenuous "ohhhhhh! I get it now! Thanks! Did y'all hear Dan? Listen to Dan?"

[Apprentice79]

9 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And then Dan Abrams had to sit her down, like some child, and point by point, have him "explain" to her why he was being charged. And then Whoopi's disingenuous "ohhhhhh! I get it now! Thanks! Did y'all hear Dan? Listen to Dan?"

She also looked in the camera and said dramatically, Shut up Bill!  I guess that was the extent of her apology, for being a bitch to everybody that dared to call out Bill, as a serial rapist..

Edited February 12, 2018 by Apprentice79

[Jaded]

8 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And then Dan Abrams had to sit her down, like some child, and point by point, have him "explain" to her why he was being charged. And then Whoopi's disingenuous "ohhhhhh! I get it now! Thanks! Did y'all hear Dan? Listen to Dan?"

I always thought she acted like she believed Dan because he was a man. Who knows if she really did change her mind at that time or just acted like she did to keep her job. She seems like she may see the situation with Cosby differently now. 

[Medicine Crow]

No one has mentioned Sherri's total lack of propriety when she said something to the effect that when a man's head is between your legs ... & the look on Joy's face was priceless.  I really did laugh out loud!!!

[Apprentice79]

2 minutes ago, Medicine Crow said:

No one has mentioned Sherri's total lack of propriety when she said something to the effect that when a man's head is between your legs ... & the look on Joy's face was priceless.  I really did laugh out loud!!!

Joy was enjoying herself today and it was really cool to see her this way. As opposed to last Friday...

[backformore]

3 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

It sounded like Whoopi was saying the woman who accused Asari Aziz of sexual misconduct gave up the right to say no when she went to his place. That is a horrible message for women to hear.  

I don't think that's really the message though.  When I read the woman's account of the incident, I was struck by her saying she was undressed in Ansari's apartment, and never refused sex, but talked about how she "wanted to just chill".   I've been out of the dating world for a long time.  BUT I think that if you are alone with a man in his apartment, AND you are undressed, AND you have already engaged in oral sex, but you do not want to have intercourse, you need to say it explicitly and loudly and make sure he understands.   Because, I'm sorry, but most men would assume consent in that situation.  If a woman's behavior can be construed as consent, but she is not consenting, she has the responsibility to make her "NO" louder than her YES. 

[Haleth]

4 hours ago, Alexis2291 said:

I don't understand what Hillary and Bill Clinton had to do with the conversation and why Meggie had to bring them up.

Emails!  Benghazi!

4 hours ago, jumper sage said:

She did make an ass out of herself.  I hate when she drags poor Jeffrey into her stories.  Just raise your son respectfully.  This will be hard as Jeffrey has seen his mom being oversexualized.  She, herself, called herself a ho.  

Remember when Sherri used to talk about shaking her breasts in Jeffrey's face?  The chickens have come home to roost.

[maggiemae]

I've googled and can find no source that Hicks and Porter have broken up. MM needs a source for that.

[CynicalGirl]

Maybe Hope is another one of Meghan's "close personal friends". 

*rolleyes*

[GHScorpiosRule]

5 hours ago, bannana said:

Hey, Elsa didn't mention how respected she was by Van Jones!

Color me SHOCKED that Meghan didn't throw in Joy's face how much of a tongue bath RESPECT she got on his show. And if he ever comes back on this show. I hope Joy hits him with: "So, you think we're mean?"

[Fannysue]

11 hours ago, OnTime said:

What on earth was Meghan wearing today? I didn't see her walk out, but sitting down it looked like giant striped skirt and with her hair tied back. Really? 

Gosh, she just does not have the figure for that skirt or hairstyle.

I can't help but feel these are her clothes  choices because any professional dresser would be ashamed to claim her as a client..

[backformore]

13 hours ago, OnTime said:

What on earth was Meghan wearing today? I didn't see her walk out, but sitting down it looked like giant striped skirt and with her hair tied back. Really? 

Gosh, she just does not have the figure for that skirt or hairstyle.

It looked like she was mismatched, the top, a black sweater, didn't match the bottom, a multi-colored shiny-fabric full stripey skirt.  What a strange outfit. 

ANd I noticed that Whoopi has gone back to the only scarf she has ever owned, that grey/blue monstrosity. 

[bannana]

@backformore, I was just waiting for you to mention the scarf!

[backformore]

1 minute ago, bannana said:

@backformore, I was just waiting for you to mention the scarf!

yeah, I'm kind of obsessed with that rag.   I don't get it.  It's getting kind of nasty looking, and it wasn't all that great to begin with.  I get it, a scarf can really transform an outfit.  I know for me, dress pants and a plain shirt is my work "uniform", but a colorful scarf makes it a whole new outfit.  But that rag?  looks like something I'd use to dust the furniture. 

[Tosia]

9 hours ago, Fannysue said:

I can't help but feel these are her clothes  choices because any professional dresser would be ashamed to claim her as a client..

I agree.

MM wears tween sweatshirts with sayings on them or strange combinations  like Monday's shiny, striped long skirt and ruffled blouse.  Surely, the wardrobe department would offer her better options.( And don't call me Shirley. ) 

Her spanx goes up almost to her bra and lets the back fat out--if she's going to wear something tight--like on Van's or Colbert's show-- get a bra/spanx combo to keep it all in, or wear something looser. 

The outfits that she chooses to wear are another mish-mash like her comments. They either look too matronly  or too young. But then, the moniker, " Barbie Political Pundit" doesn't fit her either.  

 When her hair is up,  it makes her head look too small. Where are the stylists????? 

OTOH, on a more serious note, I was so glad that Joy schooled MM on the use of torture by many of the U.S.' friends, like the Soviet Union, China, Middle East, etc. I can't believe that M M is that naive or just unaware of the atrocities that still go on in the world (and U.S.). Her ignorance of social justice (or lack thereof) is beyond comprehension.  Trying to defend Pence's behavior by blaming Korea is typical WH tactics. 

Edited February 13, 2018 by Tosia
MM has NO business on tv in any form.

[OnTime]

27 minutes ago, Tosia said:

MM wears tween sweatshirts with sayings on them or strange combinations  like Monday's shiny, striped long skirt and ruffled blouse.  Surely, the wardrobe department would offer her better options.( And don't call me Shirley. ) 

Her spanx goes up almost to her bra and lets the back fat out--if she's going to wear something tight--like on Van's or Colbert's show-- get a bra/spanx combo to keep it all in, or wear something looser. 

Oh I know.  Seems everything is so tight on her. Even her wedding dress was pretty but didn't look so good on her because it was so tight.

[blondiec0332]

Meghan is full figured with curves. She  has two choices. She can accentuate the curves without looking like a sausage or she can wear things that are looser.  Her wardrobe now does her no favors.  She is in her 30s.  She has a huge array of choices.  But the message shirts need to go.  And what she wore on Van Jones show.  Yikes.

[GoldenGirl90]

15 hours ago, Tanichka said:

I think if a man asks you to their apartment, they are assuming they are going to get sex.  If a woman asks a man to her apartments, she probably wants to talk, listen to music, and maybe kiss a little.  It's been a while, but correct me if I'm wrong!

I'm still on the dating scene and in my experience, this is about right. I never invite a man I'm only casually dating to my place like I did in my early 20s becauase they do tend to think something sexual is going to happen.

[Tanichka]

Just now, Alexis2291 said:

I'm still on the dating scene and in my experience, this is about right.

See!  I knew it!  The dating scene is still the same.  

[GoldenGirl90]

25 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

And what she wore on Van Jones show.  Yikes.

That was probably one of the worse outfits I've seen her wear. Hideous. I agree with the sentiment that these are probably outfits she's putting together herself.

[Tanichka]

28 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

Meghan is full figured with curves. She  has two choices. She can accentuate the curves without looking like a sausage or she can wear things that are looser. 

I'm sure she's reluctant to go up a size, but body skimming outfits, as opposed to sausage, would be much more flattering.  When all their parts are hanging out, a lot full figured women say that they aren't ashamed of their bodies.  A good stylist could really help, but she has to be willing to listen.  (I didn't like her wedding dress, either)

[GoldenGirl90]

Meggie just said to Sunny, "you're a liberal."

Sunny: "Why am I a liberal?"

Meggie: *stammers* well I just assumed you were because on this show... (couldn't understand what she was saying)

Sunny: *says something about how Meggie shouldn't make assumptions*

Shut her up with a quickness, Sunny! That's what Meggie gets for throwing out all these words although she claims to hate labels.

I really wish Whoopi would take more than Friday's off, she always "shuts the convo down" when things get too heated for poor 'ol victim Meggie.

Edited February 13, 2018 by Alexis2291

[GHScorpiosRule]

38 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

I'm still on the dating scene and in my experience, this is about right. I never invite a man I'm only casually dating to my place like I did in my early 20s becauase they do tend to think something sexual is going to happen.

Umm...when I invited my guy (at the time) to my place, I knew something would happen. I wanted it to be at my place, so that I would have control (is that the right word?), so if things went awry or he was being selfish, I put a stop to things and he could leave. Maybe it's just the exception, but we're very good friends to this day, and we've talked and basically, determined, it just wasn't meant to be. The fact that we've known each other since the ninth grade might also be a factor!

But, and I don't mean to stray too off topic, but am only mentioning this because it's on point to the discussion the ladies were having, and that is still going on in light of the MeToo movement--I had a crush on him when we became friends; didn't see each other after graduation for maybe two, three years, went to the same college and had a couple of the same classes; another two years went by and we connected, and the attraction was there on his side and he fanned my attraction and there you go. But when I said stop, he stopped, even if it was...painful for him.

As for Meghan's choice in clothing, well, she should have asked for Ashley's advice, when she was on the show, about what would be flattering to a woman with Meghan's body type.

[Apprentice79]

Sherry is not feeling Megan. She told her, to not get so upset, if they are talking about Jesus, Word!

Sherry also told her, you know what they say about assuming, in her assumption that Sunny is a liberal. Sherry is throwing some jabs at Megan and  I am loving it.

Megan got flustered when Sunny disagreed with her.

Edited February 13, 2018 by Apprentice79

[GHScorpiosRule]

7 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

Meggie just said to Sunny, "you're a liberal."

Sunny: "Why am I a liberal?"

Meggie: *stammers* well I just assumed you were because on this show... (couldn't understand what she was saying)

Sunny: *says something about how Meggie shouldn't make assumptions*

Shut her up with a quickness, Sunny! That's what Meggie gets for throwing out all these words although she claims to hate labels.

I really wish Whoopi would take more than Friday's off, she always "shuts the convo down" when things get too heated for poor 'ol victim Meggie.

 

Sunny is liberal in some things, but also socially conservative. She believes abortion is murder; BUT because it's legal, according to the law, she accepts it. She's said this so many times, even after Meghan has been on the show! She's religiously conservative, as well. I guess Meghan just wasn't listening? And based on this, I guess she just wanted to start a fight with Sunny this week?

But there's this also--even if she is Pro Life, she doesn't shove that down the throats or try to convince those that are Pro Choice, NOT to have abortions, because these are her beliefs. Therein lies the difference.

Edited February 13, 2018 by GHScorpiosRule

[Vanderboom]

Ugh. The Omarosa/Mike Pence discussion was a mess. Meghan claims that "Values Voters" only care about abortion, and gets mad when Sunny claims they should care about more. Then Whoopi word-salads something about three comics and sticking to the subject, and then surveys the group. It was incoherent even by The View's standards.

[GoldenGirl90]

11 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Sunny is liberal in some things, but also socially conservative. She believes abortion is murder; BUT because it's legal, according to the law, she accepts it. She's said this so many times, even after Meghan has been on the show! She's religiously conservative, as well. I guess Meghan just wasn't listening? And based on this, I guess she just wanted to start a fight with Sunny this week?

I really would love to know Meghan's definition of liberal. She had an opportunity to explain herself at least somewhat after calling Sunny a liberal but she dodged it.

8 minutes ago, Vanderboom said:

Then Whoopi word-salads something about three comics and sticking to the subject, and then surveys the group. It was incoherent even by The View's standards.

She had to "shut it down," remember? Anyway, yeah, whatever Whoopi was trying to say made no sense.

12 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Sherry also told her, you know what they say about assuming, in her assumption that Sunny is a liberal. Sherry is throwing some jabs at Megan and  I am loving it.

Sherri is definitely throwing shade at Meggie and I don't think she's feeling her very much.

Edited February 13, 2018 by Alexis2291

[sugarbaker design]

13 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

But there's this also--even if she is Pro Life, she doesn't shove that down the throats or try to convince those that are Pro Choice, NOT to have abortions, because these are her beliefs. Therein lies the difference.

But that's a nuanced, complex view.  Meghan can't seem to understand this.  The more I see and hear of Meghan, the more I realize she's just not that bright.

[Apprentice79]

2 minutes ago, sugarbaker design said:

But that's a nuanced, complex view.  Meghan can't seem to understand this.  The more I see and hear of Meghan, the more I realize she's just not that bright.

Her big problem is that  she has her talking points that she has to say. Instead of listening to what is being said to her and reacting accordingly. She cannot handle people challenging her worldview.  She gets flustered, defensive and angry. She takes everything as a personal attack. 

[Haleth]

15 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

I really would love to know Meghan's definition of liberal.

Anti Trump.

I loved that Sunny shut Meghan down and left her sputtering  

Sunny is right that Pence is disliked in IN.  He's lucky that he won VP because he was going to lose as gov.

[ChicagoCita]

5 minutes ago, sugarbaker design said:

But that's a nuanced, complex view.  Meghan can't seem to understand this.  The more I see and hear of Meghan, the more I realize she's just not that bright.

When Sunny asked her why she thought she (Sunny) was a liberal, Meghan sputtered, "If you're a conservative, I apologize."

In MeghanWorld, apparently there are only liberals (bad) and conservatives (good). No nuances, no middle of the road opinions.

And remember, in addition to this, she hates labels. They exhaust her.

[sugarbaker design]

4 minutes ago, ChicagoCita said:

And remember, in addition to this, she hates labels. They exhaust her.

Irony alert!

[Jewlmc]

32 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

Meggie just said to Sunny, "you're a liberal."

Sunny: "Why am I a liberal?"

Meggie: *stammers* well I just assumed you were because on this show... (couldn't understand what she was saying)

Sunny: *says something about how Meggie shouldn't make assumptions*

Shut her up with a quickness, Sunny! That's what Meggie gets for throwing out all these words although she claims to hate labels.

I really wish Whoopi would take more than Friday's off, she always "shuts the convo down" when things get too heated for poor 'ol victim Meggie.

Or maybe she shut it down because she's tired of Meghan's s***  in this conversation?

[GoldenGirl90]

2 minutes ago, ChicagoCita said:

In MeghanWorld, apparently there are only liberals (bad) and conservatives (good). No nuances, no middle of the road opinions.

I don't know what her plans are after this gig is up, but if she wants to grow as a "political commentator" and be taken seriously on multiple platforms, she needs to educate herself. There are so many different types of political beliefs (socially liberal, fiscally conservative, ect) and even then, one shouldn't allow these terms to define them as she seems to do.

On a lighter note, I can't wait to see Black Panther! 

[blondiec0332]

9 minutes ago, Haleth said:

Sunny is right that Pence is disliked in IN.  He's lucky that he won VP because he was going to lose as gov.

He is a perfect example of failing upwards.

 

10 minutes ago, ChicagoCita said:

In MeghanWorld, apparently there are only liberals (bad) and conservatives (good). No nuances, no middle of the road opinions.

She is getting worse with each day.  I don't know if her husband is an influence or not but she has definitely become a lot more "tribal" since she started on the View.

 

5 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

I don't know what her plans are after this gig is up, but if she wants to grow as a "political commentator" and be taken seriously on multiple platforms, she needs to educate herself. There are so many different types of political beliefs (socially liberal, fiscally conservative, ect) and even then, one shouldn't allow these terms to define them as she seems to do.

She has crossed the line into Ann Coulter territory.  Meghan is always going to side with her team no matter what.

[Apprentice79]

7 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

I don't know what her plans are after this gig is up, but if she wants to grow as a "political commentator" and be taken seriously on multiple platforms, she needs to educate herself. There are so many different types of political beliefs (socially liberal, fiscally conservative, ect) and even then, one shouldn't allow these terms to define them as she seems to do.

She sees it as a war. The big bad liberals, who are out to get the conservatives. She is perplexed by Sunny, who is anti-choice, but, is very liberal in other things, like, taking a knee, during the anthem. In her limited worldview, if you are anti-choice, you must be a conservative.  It is ironic since she claims to be pro LGBT and identifies as a conservative.. I doubt she would like it, if people called her a liberal. Complexity is hard for her pea brain to understand. Sad!

Edited February 13, 2018 by Apprentice79