All Episodes Talk: Small World, Big Lives

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21 minutes ago, Hedgehog2022 said:

THIS! Matt is master manipulator. It's important to remember that this whole farm mess started when Matt first turned down Jeremy's offer. Next up...Zach. We all know that Matt said to the camera that Zach's offer wasn't enough. Now...let's go back in time and remember how many times Matt yapped about leaving the farm to one or more of the kids if they were interested in it. Note the word "leave"...he never once said "sell" to one or more of the kids. My guess is that Matt sought out a realtor to see how much he could get for the farm while the market was hot...then he made the decision to sell it on the open market. This decision was most certainly made before he went into "negotiations" with his kids...I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around that aspect of this whole thing. I'm sure Jeremy and Zach were not thinking that they would not have to pay up on some aspects of the farm, like machinery, care and feeding of the animals, etc... but to have to "negotiate" with your Dad when you have a young family to support seems cold. 

The funny thing about all of this is that there are no buyers for the part of the farm Matt put on the market!! I read an article that said the fancy realtor Matt is using has no takers or even any interested people wanting to put a bid on it. I'm sure Matt thought he would have it sold in a week...NOT! And now the market has dropped and sales are slow...housing prices have dropped let alone farm property. He might wish he had sold it to one of the boys.

The house is dated and too big for families with one or two kids.  Few people have four kids anymore.  And most people wouldn’t want any of the “attractions” such as the Western Town so just see them as a headache to remove.  Apparently the township will not permit additional houses to be built on the property so basically buyers would be paying 4 million for that house and surrounding lawn when they could get a nice mansion for that somewhere else.  

[Hedgehog2022]

4 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

The house is dated and too big for families with one or two kids.  Few people have four kids anymore.  And most people wouldn’t want any of the “attractions” such as the Western Town so just see them as a headache to remove.  Apparently the township will not permit additional houses to be built on the property so basically buyers would be paying 4 million for that house and surrounding lawn when they could get a nice mansion for that somewhere else.  

Apparently his realtor didn't tell him this...

[Hedgehog2022]

23 minutes ago, Endora said:

Just when I think the show can’t get more annoying it does!  Amy is so full of shit you can smell her a mile away.  Amy and Chris show up at the farm and pump Matt all about his personal business then Amy gets annoyed and says I can’t stand here and listen to this, then don’t, who told you to go there anyway?  Chris and Mae West need to shut up, Amy too, it’s none of their business what he does with the farm.  If Amy were so concerned about the kids getting the farm, did she talk to Matt in advance, did she offer Zach any money to help him buy her half?  Not too late Amy, offer him the money now and he can re-negotiate with Matt, after all it means so much to you and Chris.  Better yet, you should have stayed there and bought out Matt, Chris would be so much happier.  

Tori letting Lilah ram into a tree and then laughing is so disturbing, she then tells Zach Lilah could have taken over, so it was Lilah’s  own fault I guess.  Also, she should have been wearing helmet.  Tori is a lazy slug, she is possibly worse then Zach.  

I agree about the Lilah segment...OMG! This child was driving that vehicle with a patch over one eye! And no helmut??? Tori is not only a lazy slug but a negligant adult. She and Zach are too immature to be responsible parents. And that "creek"is just an accident waiting to happen.

[65mickey]

1 hour ago, Hedgehog2022 said:

'm sure Jeremy and Zach were not thinking that they would not have to pay up on some aspects of the farm, like machinery, care and feeding of the animals, etc... but to have to "negotiate" with your Dad when you have a young family to support seems cold. 

I t would be a lot easier for Zach and Jeremy to get off their butts and get jobs to support their young families than for their 60 year old father who has multiple serious physical problems to come up with the money support himself in his retirement. And the proceeds from the sale of the farm will support Matt in his retirement.  I still can't understand why the farm should go to one of the kids. Just suppose that Matt handed over the farm to Zach or Jeremy at a cut rate price. How would the other 3 kids feel about this? Amy keeps talking about the farm going to one of the kids because she sees it as a legacy. A legacy for whom? Not the other three who receive nothing. No child should expect to receive their inheritance while their parents are still alive. And note to Zach, 60 year olds worry about money probably more so than 30 year olds for good reason.  

[Dibs]

21 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

Where's the part where Caryn said she stopped all negotiations?

I have no problem believing that sixth-graders ZiT, who apparently walked in the room "like they owned the place" already making demands and spoiling for a fight, quickly escalated the "negotiations" to a nasty shouting match, and Caryn - the peacemaker - quite rightly saw fit to nip it in the bud or at least try to break it up before relations were even more irreparably damaged by emotion-driven words.  Once Zach offered and Matt counteroffered and both were refused, what productive was there to say?  Evidently ZiT had no problem with Caryn being present when they were all in it together, as I believe Tori said, and they actually believed they had a shot at taking over the farm and the show; nor did they object when she was practically helping raise their kids.  How soon they forget!

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39 minutes ago, Hedgehog2022 said:

I agree about the Lilah segment...OMG! This child was driving that vehicle with a patch over one eye! And no helmut??? Tori is not only a lazy slug but a negligant adult. She and Zach are too immature to be responsible parents. And that "creek"is just an accident waiting to happen.

I, too, was STUNNED at the sight of Lilah trying to "maneuver" that electric car with an eye patch on!!! 

Then, Zach is yelling at Tori to DO SOMETHING as Tori just scoffs at his concern.  OMG! 

To think of that ZiT are now accommodating another child (special needs) into their family is hard to picture; however, the 3rd child has been born and now resides in whatever conditions this "dynamic duo" has created in the home.

Am I correct in understanding that next week's episode is the LAST for the season?

[Dibs]

16 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Yes she did. They put a tiny 2 year old child alone in the car and let her ride around the yard.  Tori was supposed to be controlling the car with a remote controller but she failed to stop it before Lilah hit the tree.  Even Zach yelled at Tori. If these children manage to survive to their teen years without serious injuries it will be no thanks to their moronic parents.

There's something very wrong with Tori if she thinks her children getting hurt and being put in danger is funny or even that ridiculing her husband's speech impediment or learning difference (or whatever it is) is amusing, but then we knew something was off with her when she chose Zach as a life partner!  If it was to become Queen of the Pumpkins, that's halfway understandable, but I begin to wonder about her.

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3 minutes ago, pdlinda said:

I, too, was STUNNED at the sight of Lilah trying to "maneuver" that electric car with an eye patch on!!! 

Then, Zach is yelling at Tori to DO SOMETHING as Tori just scoffs at his concern.  OMG! 

To think of that ZiT are now accommodating another child (special needs) into their family is hard to picture; however, the 3rd child has been born and now resides in whatever conditions this "dynamic duo" has created in the home.

Am I correct in understanding that next week's episode is the LAST for the season?

Even putting aside her small stature, one eye covered, and apparent developmental delays, who would let any two-year-old steer a motorized vehicle?  I wonder what age those are marketed for.

[Dibs]

14 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Why didn't Amy and Zack work out a deal for Amys half?  Perhaps the divorce decree said they had to sell to each other only but both Amy and Matt had attorneys that drew it up the contract that way and Amy agreed to it. 

If the farm meant so much to her and Zack she should have agreed the farm could be sold to family members only!

Amy took the money and ran.  Prices went up which probably makes her really angry.  Now Matt's putting it on the market and Amy's bitching as usual!  She's a nasty one!

This.  Zach said SEVERAL times during this period that he had NO desire to live on or buy the farm as he couldn't go along with Matt's methods and was quite happy living apart from it.  His sudden interest came out of the blue (probably after he saw the dwarf children beginning to pile up and realized he "was the show") and shocked both Matt and Amy by revealing this ambition only AFTER Amy had not only agreed to the buy-out and gotten her money and run against Chris's expressed wishes, but (finally) moved all her crap out of there and the place was empty.  Both parents also realized and expressed that it would be problematic re: Jeremy.

The market went crazy, and Amy is eating nails!  Wonder how Chris likes the look?  Maybe he doesn't mind nasty, bitter, furious, rageful, crass, vengeful Amy as long as, as he said once, it isn't "directed at him."

On 7/12/2022 at 3:18 PM, Kid said:

Amy wanted to make it more "palable" for the kids.  The word is palatable.

If she did any cooking at her friends' house in AZ, hope she checked the pots for SCORPIOS. 😂

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[Dibs]

13 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

This!  

So the only place that Amy and Chris can walk and get exercise is Matt’s farm, then Amy gets all bitchy about his new house plans, paving the driveway, you name she’s pissed off… GO HOME, go sit in your little cracker box house with whiny, nasal voiced dull as dirt Chris and STFU!!!  🤬

That still wasn’t enough bitching about Matt so she had to lunch with her old bleached blonde Mae West wannabe Lisa and BITCH about Matt!

and even that wasn’t enough so now we see scenes of her AT THE FARM bitching at Matt about how he wants to run HIS farm and HIS life…. Which is none of her business!  🙄

Matt might have to get a restraining order to keep Amy and her boring husband off his property, right now they’ll make up any excuse to hang around Matt and his farm.

Right?  Matt is nice enough to let them walk around that farm "like they own the place" and pop into his office anytime they please, and they trash-talk him while they do it?  That really took the cake.  And it's the overdue return of snide, sh*t-stirring, gossip-loving, Matt-hating, Veronica Lake lookalike Lisa...  Maybe she doesn't care for happy, amicable Amy and only shows up when there's drama???

[65mickey]

I tried to find information about the age guidelines for these remote controlled cars. Most didn't give an age range but the two that did showed for ages 3-6 and 3-8 with additional information for height requirements. Lilah is only 2 and is very small. If the car had been going faster she could have been thrown out and hit her head. I would never ever ever put a small 2 or 3 year old child in one of these cars. Besides the chance for an injury what value is this to the child? Better to have them in cars that they have to pedal to exercise and strengthen their legs.

[Dibs]

2 hours ago, Libby said:

It seems to me that Zach and Tori are more angry at Caryn than at Matt. The biggest mistake the new girlfriend/boyfriend after divorce can make is to get involved in disputes between their significant other and their children. She really overstepped.

She may have caused a permanent rift between herself and Matt's children.

Tori is more angry at Caryn because she considered her the BFF who was going to grease the wheels with Matt, most likely, and is in a snit because their offer failed...

I get the sense Zach and Matt are ready to kiss and make up, but Tori is the HBIC.

I was happy to see Caryn (notice Amy said she visited "Grandpa and Caryn"; not Grandpa and Cha-Cha; does she want Jackson to forget that relationship entirely?) with her own grandchild, but she and J dearly loved each other.  It's pure evil, IMO.

[Redrum]

Oh I definitely don't think Zach is ready to forgive and forget.

As for Caryn, there doesn't seem to be any rule that she can't come visit with Matt.

[Dibs]

Irate Panda, you made me guffaw out loud in a public place.  😅

Jeanine, you are so right that Amy had the best legal representation (considerable) money could buy, took absolutely forever dawdling over the negotiations, and she claims she still got screwed?  Maybe she should sue her attorneys.  She's full of it!

What I don't get is Chris.  Here he's acting like Matt's best friend, going out of his way to follow him around like a Labrador, yet he sits there and listens and nods and tacitly agrees with Amy's revisionist history BS without saying a word when I'm sure he knows better, not only from being around at the time, but in his role as realtor.  Is he really that afraid of She Who Wears the Crown (in the bedroom), or what game is he playing, exactly?  They're going to have to get a crowbar to pry him off that place when it does sell.  Just when I thought he couldn't get whinier, he starts rhapsodizing!

32 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

Even putting aside her small stature, one eye covered, and apparent developmental delays, who would let any two-year-old steer a motorized vehicle?  I wonder what age those are marketed for.

I was wondering what they cost and who paid for it.  Have they ever ONCE said "thank you" when Grandpa shows up after a 90-minute drive bearing presents?

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[Dibs]

25 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

I tried to find information about the age guidelines for these remote controlled cars. Most didn't give an age range but the two that did showed for ages 3-6 and 3-8 with additional information for height requirements. Lilah is only 2 and is very small. If the car had been going faster she could have been thrown out and hit her head. I would never ever ever put a small 2 or 3 year old child in one of these cars. Besides the chance for an injury what value is this to the child? Better to have them in cars that they have to pedal to exercise and strengthen their legs.

Zach is very obviously trying to replicate Matt's farm on his poor, pathetic piece of wasteland, right down to the sandbox and fav chicken named Teeter, and tooling around on a mule is part of that.  But you're right; Lilah is probably the size of the average one year old.  I can imagine Caryn dying a thousands deaths watching this.

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[PrincessPurrsALot]

In response to a question above, the season finale is on Tuesday, 19 July. It is entitled The Legacy of the Farm.  
 

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Matt updates the family with news about Roloff Farms. When no one responds, Matt is left hoping that his relationship with Zach is not in jeopardy yet again. Amy confronts Matt about the conflict he's caused with the family.

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16 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

Can’t wait too see how Zach “improves the creek.”

Zach is a moron, maybe he plans to dam the ditch and turn his mess into lakefront property

That dirty trash filled ditch was running like a small river and it's summer time, wait until the fall that thing will be suitable for whitewater rafting. 🌊🛶

Why they thought it would be a good idea to buy a home with a dirty run off ditch would be a good feature with small stature toddlers waddling around is beyond me.

Lilah regularly falls over just walking on flat ground, if she falls head first into that ditch I'm afraid to imagine what could happen and as we've seen ZiT are not watching those kids as closely as they should, they think it's funny when Lilah topples over or runs into trees.

Dumb and Dumber 

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33 minutes ago, Munchkin said:

Zach is a moron, maybe he plans to dam the ditch and turn his mess into lakefront property

That dirty trash filled ditch was running like a small river and it's summer time, wait until the fall that thing will be suitable for whitewater rafting. 🌊🛶

Why they thought it would be a good idea to buy a home with a dirty run off ditch would be a good feature with small stature toddlers waddling around is beyond me.

Lilah regularly falls over just walking on flat ground, if she falls head first into that ditch I'm afraid to imagine what could happen and as we've seen ZiT are not watching those kids as closely as they should, they think it's funny when Lilah topples over or runs into trees.

Dumb and Dumber 

Something as simple as a gated fence between the kids and the creek, allowing access only when adults are present, would be a first step.  Of course that assumes the parents will pay attention when they are present.

[Jeanne222]

I think Amy’s biggest problem is that Matt could ever get 4million for that small parcel of Roloff Farms.   That possibility is what nightmares are about for Amy!

She doesn’t care that Zack didn’t get the property any more than she cared when Jeremy didn’t get it!  She didn’t hoot and holler back then  

It’s the money and once again Matt one upping her!

[Redrum]

Well, only if it sells for 4 million. 

I don't think Amy did all that badly and while I understand her irritation.... yeah she could have pressed but it still would have been 1.2, maybe 1.3 million at that time. 

[Joan of Argh]

3 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I think Amy’s biggest problem is that Matt could ever get 4million for that small parcel of Roloff Farms.   That possibility is what nightmares are about for Amy!

She doesn’t care that Zack didn’t get the property any more than she cared when Jeremy didn’t get it!  She didn’t hoot and holler back then  

It’s the money and once again Matt one upping her!

Exactly!

there was a scene between Matt and Amy when she was almost moved out of the farmhouse and it was empty of furniture, Matt told her about Zach planning to make an offer and buy the place…. Amy looked horrified and didn’t think it was a good idea yet now she would have bought it and handed it to him…. What a load of bullshit!

This is Amy rewriting history AGAIN 

If Chris and Amy are so broken up about the farm there’s nothing stopping them from buying it and leaving it to the kids…. They need to put their money where their big mouths are or STFU about Matt and what he does with HIS property.

[Irate Panda]

27 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

Something as simple as a gated fence between the kids and the creek, allowing access only when adults are present, would be a first step.  Of course that assumes the parents will pay attention when they are present.

This was what I wondered when I saw the preview if they might be adding a fence with a gate, but I am confused as to where the “creek” cuts through their property. I’m all for not wrapping kids in bubble wrap and God knows I did enough nonsense when I was a kid, but Lilah’s stumbling/falling and vision problems is worrisome near the water. I get she’s a toddler, but almost every episode has her falling.

Hopefully Zach and Tori take a more proactive approach in safeguarding their home, but Mom’s letting Lilah drive into a tree and Dad’s laughing when she face plants, so I’m not that hopeful.

With that said, Zach grew up on the farm that had its own raggedy hazards as we’ve seen over the years, so I can see why Zach probably thinks it’s no big deal, although that doesn’t explain Tori.  I think they both act like teenagers pretending to play house on the show.  I’m can’t find the right words to explain it, but they don’t seem like people in their 30s.

[SunnyBeBe]

1 hour ago, Irate Panda said:

This was what I wondered when I saw the preview if they might be adding a fence with a gate, but I am confused as to where the “creek” cuts through their property. I’m all for not wrapping kids in bubble wrap and God knows I did enough nonsense when I was a kid, but Lilah’s stumbling/falling and vision problems is worrisome near the water. I get she’s a toddler, but almost every episode has her falling.

Hopefully Zach and Tori take a more proactive approach in safeguarding their home, but Mom’s letting Lilah drive into a tree and Dad’s laughing when she face plants, so I’m not that hopeful.

With that said, Zach grew up on the farm that had its own raggedy hazards as we’ve seen over the years, so I can see why Zach probably thinks it’s no big deal, although that doesn’t explain Tori.  I think they both act like teenagers pretending to play house on the show.  I’m can’t find the right words to explain it, but they don’t seem like people in their 30s.

True. That’s exactly what it appears like. It’s as if they are playing the part of parents.  It doesn’t ring true to me.  And the way they talk about their kids on the show…it sounds like a cross between demeaning them and boasting about them at the same time. It’s odd.  I’m not sure what to make of it.  

[Hedgehog2022]

5 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I t would be a lot easier for Zach and Jeremy to get off their butts and get jobs to support their young families than for their 60 year old father who has multiple serious physical problems to come up with the money support himself in his retirement. And the proceeds from the sale of the farm will support Matt in his retirement.  I still can't understand why the farm should go to one of the kids. Just suppose that Matt handed over the farm to Zach or Jeremy at a cut rate price. How would the other 3 kids feel about this? Amy keeps talking about the farm going to one of the kids because she sees it as a legacy. A legacy for whom? Not the other three who receive nothing. No child should expect to receive their inheritance while their parents are still alive. And note to Zach, 60 year olds worry about money probably more so than 30 year olds for good reason.  

Well…Amy AND Matt never prepared their sons to work or get jobs. They had silver spoons in their mouths and did whatever they wanted whenever they wanted so that’s on the Amy and Matt. As for the farm…for literally YEARS Matt talked about handing the farm to one or more of the kids…his words not mine. He never said anything about selling any portion of it to any of the kids. Matt is a multi millionaire and can afford a second home in Arizona and still has more than enough to live on in his “retirement”…I could care less if any of his entitled brats were to get a portion of the farm in handshake or a $$$ deal that they sign off on with a cashiers check…but I will not defend Matt in his revisionist history of all this. It’s all on tape…

[Endora]

Does ZiT really consider that run off creek potentially full of garbage a treasure that they can clean up like when you adopt a section of the highway?  Do they really “own” the section on their property or is owned by the town or something?  Reminds me of the runoff drain on the Kody Brown family property and they were calling it a pond and went swimming in it.  

[Redrum]

33 minutes ago, Hedgehog2022 said:

Matt is a multi millionaire and can afford a second home in Arizona and still has more than enough to live on in his “retirement”

Yeah there is a part of me that feels he wants it both ways. Matt wants to be known as a rich man. He owns million dollar properties, he's got a vacation home, he's blowing 50k on a "granpa cabin" just because he wants it, Matt's happy to simply discard a custom built home and build his dream house (the 12 architects alone that he's hired and fired is likely about 25k that he's pissed away) not because he needs it but because he wants it... but funny the second his possible greed comes up, why suddenly Matt is desperate to fund his retirement. Suddenly he's acting like this is it, if he doesn't sell the 16 acres for as much as he can, he will be houseless and dying on the mean streets of Portland. There's no pumpkin money saved, there's no show money saved, even though every idea Matt has literally shits gold into his bank account, he has nothing for retirement. Except you know, the proceeds from this sale of 16 acres... that he actually plans on spending on building his barbie dream house.

58 minutes ago, Hedgehog2022 said:

Matt is a multi millionaire and can afford a second home in Arizona and still has more than enough to live on in his “retirement”…I could care less if any of his entitled brats were to get a portion of the farm in handshake or a $$$ deal that they sign off on with a cashiers check…but I will not defend Matt in his revisionist history of all this. It’s all on tape…

This. If he's so damn poor his retirement is in danger if he doesn't get top dollar, then why did he blow 975k buying it from Amy last year to begin with? He was moaning about being near death and wanting to retire then too. Dunno about Matt but I know a lot of people who would HAPPILY retire on 975k

[Irate Panda]

Is Matt actually rolling in dough? Watching the show all these years, I always thought Matt spent a lot of his money building crap on the farm.  I guess I thought he was “house poor” to a certain extent especially after the divorce.  

I know in the beginning they were “struggling/poor”, but as the show went on, I had always thought he spent a lot of his money expanding the farm, so he/they had a big asset, but were always spending.   Mostly Matt, since Amy seemed to balk at the expenditures:  castle, ghost town, train, dinosaur 🦕 statues, etc.

I guess because of this I had always assumed after the split Amy was the wealthier one, because Matt seemed to be the spender and he bought her out.  I also thought she chose a reasonably priced home and now I guess shares expenses with Chris.  No idea if Caryn shares expenses with Matt in the same way, since she still has her own house.  On the show, did they say if he and Caryn own the home in Arizona or is it Matt’s home only?

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42 minutes ago, Redrum said:

Yeah there is a part of me that feels he wants it both ways. Matt wants to be known as a rich man. He owns million dollar properties, he's got a vacation home, he's blowing 50k on a "granpa cabin" just because he wants it, Matt's happy to simply discard a custom built home and build his dream house (the 12 architects alone that he's hired and fired is likely about 25k that he's pissed away) not because he needs it but because he wants it... but funny the second his possible greed comes up, why suddenly Matt is desperate to fund his retirement. Suddenly he's acting like this is it, if he doesn't sell the 16 acres for as much as he can, he will be houseless and dying on the mean streets of Portland. There's no pumpkin money saved, there's no show money saved, even though every idea Matt has literally shits gold into his bank account, he has nothing for retirement. Except you know, the proceeds from this sale of 16 acres... that he actually plans on spending on building his barbie dream house.

This. If he's so damn poor his retirement is in danger if he doesn't get top dollar, then why did he blow 975k buying it from Amy last year to begin with? He was moaning about being near death and wanting to retire then too. Dunno about Matt but I know a lot of people who would HAPPILY retire on 975k

I read yesterday he paid her around $675k for her half of the North part.  Maybe that is why she is so mad about $4 million.  

[Fostersmom]

4 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

I think Amy’s biggest problem is that Matt could ever get 4million for that small parcel of Roloff Farms.   That possibility is what nightmares are about for Amy!

She doesn’t care that Zack didn’t get the property any more than she cared when Jeremy didn’t get it!  She didn’t hoot and holler back then  

It’s the money and once again Matt one upping her!

Her problem is she apparently thought she could cash out and still have 100% access to the house and whole property forever and ever. 

[Redrum]

3 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

I read yesterday he paid her around $675k for her half of the North part.  Maybe that is why she is so mad about $4 million.  

Naw, she got 667k for the wedding barn side and 975k for the big house side. 

She can cry but even if she pushed for full market value at the time, its not significantly more.... and frankly I think Matt's 4 million is over priced. 

9 minutes ago, Irate Panda said:

Is Matt actually rolling in dough? Watching the show all these years, I always thought Matt spent a lot of his money building crap on the farm.  I guess I thought he was “house poor” to a certain extent especially after the divorce.  

Hey all I know is that he's throwing down the "its my retirement" card over selling the 16 acres when he literally bought it less than a year ago all while he was spending 50k plus for his fun granpa cabin AND dropping anywhere between 1-5k to each architect (there's been 12) that does a plan for the new place. Why wasn't he thinking about his retirement then?

[Hedgehog2022]

1 hour ago, Endora said:

Does ZiT really consider that run off creek potentially full of garbage a treasure that they can clean up like when you adopt a section of the highway?  Do they really “own” the section on their property or is owned by the town or something?  Reminds me of the runoff drain on the Kody Brown family property and they were calling it a pond and went swimming in it.  

They should have an environmental evaluation done of that property. The runoff that they call a “creek” could be loaded with toxins, heavy metals and other stuff that could be extremely harmful to the kids, poor Murphy and even Tori and Zach. They should have had that done prior to the final sale.

[PrincessPurrsALot]

Folks,

Whether or not Matt has enough money for retirement and/or needs to sell the property at top dollar to fund his retirement topic is becoming a bit of a dead horse.  Let's put down that riding crop UNLESS you have not already made your point.  If you have made your point, it is time to move on.  Someone disagreeing with you is not a signal to make the same point again. 

Questions?  PM @PrincessPurrsALot.  As always, we do not discuss or debate moderator directives in the forums. 

[Hedgehog2022]

4 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

I think Amy’s biggest problem is that Matt could ever get 4million for that small parcel of Roloff Farms.   That possibility is what nightmares are about for Amy!

She doesn’t care that Zack didn’t get the property any more than she cared when Jeremy didn’t get it!  She didn’t hoot and holler back then  

It’s the money and once again Matt one upping her!

No…Amy got played by Matt…bigly!

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25 minutes ago, Redrum said:

Naw, she got 667k for the wedding barn side and 975k for the big house side. 

She can cry but even if she pushed for full market value at the time, its not significantly more.... and frankly I think Matt's 4 million is over priced. 

Yeah he won’t get that so maybe there hasn’t been much appreciation over what he paid her.

[Ms.Lulu]

I am ready for this season to be done.  It just feels uncomfortable and is difficult to watch.

• ZiT spent the entire season angry at Matt and Caryn 
• Amy spent the entire season trying to put aside her dislike and mistrust of Matt and Caryn to film with them
• Chris spent the entire season trying to deepen his friendship with Matt and move the plot line forward
• Matt and Caryn spent the entire season in denial that that their relationship with ZiT may be irreparably damaged because Zach expected a family discount
• Jackson missed Matt, ChaCha, Teeter and the farm
• Lilah was largely ignored
• Everyone spent the entire season believing they are the misunderstood victims

We don't need to see baby Si Si as he is all over the internet.

[Redrum]

1 minute ago, Hedgehog2022 said:

He’ll always have his hand in the part of the farm he’s setting up his “dream house” that apparently he will be designing and building himself since he’s gone thru 25 architects so far…is that really true?

In last night's episode he said he had already consulted with 12.  They don't do plans for free. 

2 minutes ago, Hedgehog2022 said:

I think Matt fancies himself some kind of Renaissance man that builds, designs, creates, employs, oversees and makes business deals like a mogul. If those dilapidated play shacks that the kids would use to pelt each other and their friends with apples is something Matt considers one of his finer projects i can’t wait to see what his design for his dream home looks like🤣😂 

Oh agreed and go look at the floor plan of the big house and their tour of the place. Its got a lot of awkward design moments. Or better yet head back to season 4, 5 and 6 and see the chaos of the build. 

[ginger90]

Architects do free consultations. Once there’s a contract, a draftsperson is sometimes hired separately, or is included in the fee.

[Redrum]

Pretty sure Chris never made an appearance during the negotiations between Amy and Matt. It was even commented on at the time, that it was odd that Amy wasn't involving Chris. 

[tinderbox]

13 minutes ago, Redrum said:

Pretty sure Chris never made an appearance during the negotiations between Amy and Matt. It was even commented on at the time, that it was odd that Amy wasn't involving Chris. 

He may not have been in the room physically, but my guess is that Chris advised Amy behind closed doors.  She has a mind of her own, of course, but she would have been a fool not to consider any input he had to offer.  

Edited July 14, 2022 by tinderbox

[Joan of Argh]

19 minutes ago, tinderbox said:

He may not have been in the room physically, but my guess is that Chris advised Amy behind closed doors.  She has a mind of her own, of course, but she would have been a fool not to consider any input he had to offer.  

Exactly they were a couple, sleeping together and planning to marry there’s no way she didn’t talk about it with Chris throughout the negotiation.

no wonder no one in that family uses him as their realtor or gives them their listing he’s obviously an idiot if he let his fiancé get snookered that badly by her ex-husband.

sounds like a piece of cake for Matt, he didn’t even break a sweat… like taking candy from a baby…. No wonder Chris sucks up to Matt and wants his advice on playing the market.  

[Hedgehog2022]

1 hour ago, Dustbunny said:

well if Amy got played "bigly" by Matt then she's a bigger moron that I thought she was plus she had her trusted sidekick realtor extraordinaire Chris by her side throughout the negotiations so he must be a big old dummy too!  DOH!

If that's true I think it's hilarious, Matt was able to pull the wool over both their eyes and Amy is just realizing it now.

I'm not sure which couple is dumber,, Amy & Chris or Zach and Tori  😂

Or Matt...he put the farm up for sale too late...by the time he finally did it the market was slowing down and and the sellers market was no more. Being the "shrewd businessman" that he is, he blew it. As of July 7th no bids and no sale. 

[Joan of Argh]

1 hour ago, Hedgehog2022 said:

Or Matt...he put the farm up for sale too late...by the time he finally did it the market was slowing down and and the sellers market was no more. Being the "shrewd businessman" that he is, he blew it. As of July 7th no bids and no sale. 

Matt’s not the one who’s complaining, I think he put it at 4 million thinking IF I can get that much great, if not I’ll keep it

Amy is the one whining like a baby and wishing she’d held out for more 😂

Edited July 14, 2022 by Joan of Argh
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[Tikichick]

I was surprised to see the farmhouse when Matt and Caryn walked through it.   He was so insistent for Amy to make her decision, and then to get moved out because it was critical that he attend to the dire shape of the home.   Then we heard the employee was leasing the home for a while.   Doesn't seem Matt actually did much of anything to the home before the employee moved in, or before filming the walkthrough with Caryn. 

I did expect a kitchen reno, possibly bathrooms, to bring things to standard height for selling purposes.   Instead he's choosing to asphalt a driveway it sounds like Amy had suggested for many years.   IDK the actual situation, but just on the bare bones of what was presented I'm surprised.  

[Redrum]

Well... Matt tends to exaggerate about things like critical maintenance not being done. But you're right, he didn't reno the kitchen and thats the obvious problem. I'm not tall but that grill top would suck.

[SunnyBeBe]

Matt and Amy’s philosophy about their tv marriage reminds me of that joke Clooney tells in the trailer of his new movie.  Sort of like he and Amy as they spend time together for children’s event.  Husband says about the marriage : It was the most traumatic 15 years of my life!  Wife: But, we were only married 5 years!  Husband: I’m including the recovery time.  Lol.   I wonder how long there will be hard feelings with Matt and Amy.    Probably, for as long as they live.  The previews look pretty intense…..good for ratings though.  

[bichonblitz]

16 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

The previews look pretty intense…..good for ratings though.  

Finally! I've been waiting all season for the old Matt and Amy to show up. No more buddies lets spend time and vacations together. Sorry, Chris. Your love affair with Matt is just about done. 

Damn, Amy is back to being good ole' bitter Amy. If I hear "this is sad" one more time from her. She's more upset about the sale of the land then her kids are. Get. Over. It. 

[Hedgehog2022]

I think it's important for people to understand that all of these reality shows are scripted. I have a friend that worked on a reality show a few years back and he said that seasons are scripted and fleshed beore the new season with all participants. In the quest to goose up ratings they almost always end the season with some kind of huge fight or conflict to pique interest for the next season. At any time post filming participants can opt out of filming for the next season. Of course negotiations for salaries and other stuff is always on the table prior to filming the next season...but scripting and fake stuff is just par for the course. 

[stoppro]

Junk TV starring Junk people.Piss on them!

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16 minutes ago, stoppro said:

Junk TV starring Junk people.Piss on them!

Junky People, Junk World.