S04.E04: Nostos

[tessaray]

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The crew searches for one of their own as enemies close in on all sides. Slattery is haunted by visions of the past.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHymtmrzfzU 
 

[ottoDbusdriver]

Slattery is haunted by visions of the past.

After 4 episodes they are already out of new ideas that we are going to get flashbacks.  Yay ! </sarcasm>

[oakville]

Chandler made me laugh when he argued with the snobby MI6 agent. He said Who are you? That's just my opinion I am new here:)). The look on the rest of the team's faces was hilarious. Chandler does comedy with a straight face.

Slattery has the seeds to save the world you Bloke! They have to find him.

[dirtydi]

Loved the ending montage.

[thuganomics85]

Ah, so of course Peter Weller is the main bad guy running the show.  Really should have called that last week, so thanks for making me look like an idiot, show!  Also, not only are both Giorgio and Lucia his children, but he has some other son that's apparently a doctor/scientist like him and played by Hall from Falling Skies... err, Drew Roy, I meant.  I will admit that I got a kick out of their little family moments, especially since it seems clear that Hal is the golden child/favorite, while Giorgio and Lucia are the fuck-ups that cause Daddy Robocop to tear his hair out.  And Weller was having a ball devouring the scenery, especially with that "I feel impotent!  IMPOTENT!!!!!!" line delivery at the end.

Anyway, Slattery basically stumbles around the city, until a lady rescues him and gives him that drug thing, that makes him flash back to his family and when he first met Chandler.  Kind of dull, although I was impressed over the wig they used to hide Adam Baldwin's lack of hair now. 

Foster and O'Conner were a pretty effective team, even though I'm still unsure how they exactly created a replica/"ghost" of the Nathan James, to fool Lucia and the Greek ship.

Chandler is back on the Nathan James and the reaction from the crew is a bit... well, mixed to say the lease.  At least Jeter gave him a salute, but there was quite a few people eyeing him, which is understandable I guess after he left.  Sasha was also giving him a hard time, but that's partially because she's still crushing on him a bit (especially the way she brought up the way Lucia was looking at him.)

At least they have the seeds now, but I have a feeling that's only temporary since Hal told Daddy Robocop that he thinks he knows of a way to recover it.  And we're only at the fourth episode here, of course!

[Raja]

Isn't Sunshine flying an old Huey because they couldn't find the newer high tech stuff to keep Seahawks flying, wasn't that the justification for the real life US Navy taking their toys? So the old bird suddenly has radar detection. Once again an enemy fire single missiles at an alerted warship designed to protect others from a swarm of missiles. Flashbacks of Captain Slattery being one of everybody who lost almost or their entire family added absolutely nothing to the episode.

[Artsda]

The ending was great. With the montage and visions though I almost thought Slattery was a goner. 

I finally figured out where I recognized Lucia from! FX's Tyrant. I like her, rather keep her around than Sasha.

[Raja]

39 minutes ago, thuganomics85 said:

 

Chandler is back on the Nathan James and the reaction from the crew is a bit... well, mixed to say the lease.  At least Jeter gave him a salute, but there was quite a few people eyeing him, which is understandable I guess after he left.  Sasha was also giving him a hard time, but that's partially because she's still crushing on him a bit (especially the way she brought up the way Lucia was looking at him.)

 

I just noticed the door gunner and it was understandable seeing that she is Tex's daughter and her father died defending Captain Chandler.

[ChiliCrab]

It didn't take long before Chandler went full command mode. The looks on the team's faces when Chandler asked the British guy who he was and explained his strategy were quite funny. So was Green and Miller's conversation on how they were going to call Chandler now that he's no longer the ship's captain - "Hey, Tom? Mr. Chandler?" Lots of gun battles and shouting over the noise, just like last episode. And the one before that. And the one before. At least this time they managed to squeeze in a scene or two of those left in the ship to remind us that they are still floating around at sea. 

I was wondering how far the cathedral was in relation to Burk and Wolf who were in the rhib because they got there just around the same time as the rest who were in town.

The ending montage was great though but the shot of Chandler entering the helo bay with the sunlight behind him was a bit cheesy. 

[Dowel Jones]

12 minutes ago, ChiliCrab said:

Lots of gun battles and shouting over the noise, just like last episode.

My imprecise calculation is that the Vulture squad used approximately 250 rounds to kill each bad guy.

So did Omar have a vest on? Is he going to come after Giorgio now?  Inquiring minds want to...well, maybe are just a bit curious instead.

Why didn't the Nathan James fire on and dispose of the Greek ship after the rescue had been effected.  They certainly had cause to do so.

[Catronia]

I was SO ready for the team to be all together on the NJ again! Now start the squabbling about who's in charge while Slattery is out of commission!

Right now it seems that, bafflingly, the English agent and Sasha (the translator/diplomat?) are running the show on the ground. Shouldn't Wolf be doing that? If Sasha's going to play commando, she really needs to get that hair in a ponytail and tuck it into the back of her shirt, and put a cap on. She just looks silly.

I liked Slattery's drugged dreams of his past. Partly, I love anything Adam B. does, but also I thought the extended exploration of his memories served as a representation of similar memories held by all the people who lost their families.

[Netfoot]

That was awful!  Can this crap-fest be turned into a complete season?

An entire episode chasing around behind the seeds, with Slattery acting the grim-faced hard-man with a soft side, and me just wishing that someone would shoot him, thereby putting me out of my misery.

Giorgio does shoot Omar, (Hooray!  Why do people stand there looking stupid, and let the erstwhile baddy threatens them, while all the while they have a gun in their pocket? ) but (naturally) Omar is wearing a bullet-proof vest.

And Chandler?  Hell, why didn't they all just genuflect at the end?

[Inquiry]

3 minutes ago, Netfoot said:

And Chandler?  Hell, why didn't they all just genuflect at the end?

Huh? The reactions from the other crew members seemed like a mixed bag. Definitely didn't get the sense they were worshipping him (the director, however, with that light basking behind Chandler as he entered the ship certainly provided a messianic image). I'm guessing the next episode will explore the crew's reaction to being back after "abandoning them."

[Netfoot]

It was that saintly aura I was talking about.  The director is making it pretty plain how things will end up, so they might as well have all fallen to their knees and started singing Jeff Buckley's "Hallelujah!" 

[Raja]

6 hours ago, Dowel Jones said:

My imprecise calculation is that the Vulture squad used approximately 250 rounds to kill each bad guy.

So did Omar have a vest on? Is he going to come after Giorgio now?  Inquiring minds want to...well, maybe are just a bit curious instead.

Why didn't the Nathan James fire on and dispose of the Greek ship after the rescue had been effected.  They certainly had cause to do so.

Historically speaking 250 per kill is an outstanding kill per shots fired  ratio. That everybody seems to be on full auto without the three round burst regular troops have been limited to after Vietnam and a weapon redesign does inflate the number further. With so many snipers being featured on shows,  Vulture doesn't seem to have a dedicated sniper, we expect higher one shot one kill action. Given the situation we only have  Lt Green (USN SEAL) and Chief Wolf (Australian Clearance Diving Branch) as pre Red Fflu special operations troops. The rest seemed to have learned their trade well even without Hell Week at a special ops selection and qualification course, perhaps too well but then they are all combat experienced it seems including the American and British spies.

Of course Omar will survive and probably be a wild card somewhere down the line, perhaps saving a Nathan James crewman when he goes for revenge against the Greeks.

[Raja]

7 hours ago, thuganomics85 said:

 

Foster and O'Conner were a pretty effective team, even though I'm still unsure how they exactly created a replica/"ghost" of the Nathan James, to fool Lucia and the Greek ship.

 

They name dropped the actual decoy electronic warfare system. How it works beyond the strips of metal and bubble noise makers of WWII is beyond my pay grade.

Mark 53 &nbsp;(NULKA) decoy system

[ChiliCrab]

18 hours ago, Catronia said:

If Sasha's going to play commando, she really needs to get that hair in a ponytail and tuck it into the back of her shirt, and put a cap on. She just looks silly.

You can run out of food and basic supplies in the apocalypse but Sasha Cooper will never run out of makeup and hair products. 

Edited September 5, 2017 by ChiliCrab

[JackONeill]

8 hours ago, Raja said:

I just noticed the door gunner and it was understandable seeing that she is Tex's daughter and her father died defending Captain Chandler.

Wow. I had forgotten that!!! Thanks for reminding me. NOTE TO SHOWS: If you're going to take long breaks (yes, I know about Dane's issue) and you have a big cast, somehow let viewers know the characters!!! I miss Tex. Good to see that there's something on the show I can root for.

And did anyone else notice that Robocop's secret lair looked like the mad scientist's stage on Mystery Science Theater? (BTW, for those of you who don't know—that is NOT a compliment.) Does The Last Ship no longer have a budget???

[preeya]

I liked Dane much better when he was banging Lexie Grey.

[xaxat]

Not a fan of this episode. Too much walking into/out of the light. 

I'm really concerned that the show is going to find a way to get Chandler back in charge. If Mike is out of commission, command should go to Mylan, his XO. No question. (Especially since he has captained a ship before.) I hope the show doesn't go easy on him and his return. He left. They stayed.

Sasha continues to do little things that annoy me. When Chandler, reasonably, asked who the British agent was, she could have said MI 6, SAS or whatever and Chandler would have known his resume. Instead she got snarky. Although it did allow Chandler to give the "grudging head nod of acceptance" later on in the show.

The show is always better when the Nathan James is at the center of the action.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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 Also, not only are both Giorgio and Lucia his children, but he has some other son that's apparently a doctor/scientist like him and played by Hall from Falling Skies... err, Drew Roy,

Heh, I recognized him from Falling Skies too. Hope he's not getting typecast in these post-apocalyptic TV shows. :-)

Peter Weller seems like he's having a ball with this role.

[oakville]

3 hours ago, ChiliCrab said:

You can run out of food and basic supplies in the apocalypse but Sasha Cooper will never run out makeup and hair products. 

I don't understand why Green & Wolf have to wait for Sacha's approval to take a shot at the hostiles. Sacha keeps ordering everyone to stand down this season. She needs to put her hair i a ponytail. During one scene when she was fighting with Giorgio's crew, her hair got in her face during the fight.

I can't believe that Lucia is ordering around the Greek captain Spiro. If I was him, I would tell her to take a seat.

Kudos to the producers for getting the correct Greek Navy logo on Spiro's uniform.

[TV Anonymous]

This is what I like about action series. Unlimited ammunition. They do a good job showing spent casing ejected from their rifles. Knowing that however, they all always go full automatic. As each magazine only holds 30 rounds, they should change magazines very often, which of course they never do.

Hey, whaddya know. Cooper does not speak Greek. So she is not a universal translator this show depicts her to be? Even though for English speaker Greek would be easier to learn than Vietnamese, for example. I am not even going to go to Cooper's appearance. Other posters address it quite adequately.

So the Nathan James now fought warships from the Russian, British, Chinese and Greek Navies? That is more navies than most U.S. Navy ships ever fought in their lifetime.

Speaking of ships, this is the Nathan James that fought and victorious against a Kirov-class battlecruiser and an Astute-class fast-attack submarine. Now she hides and runs against a Hydra-class frigate? The Arleigh Burke-class destroyers are bigger and more heavily armed than Hydra-class frigate. In open battle she would have been able to pound her opponent with her missiles.

Why is the helicopter is marked as H-60 in the opening title? It is clearly H-1, even the crew mentioned it was H-1. Which makes a little sense since the Navy IRL does not operate H-1 anymore. So regardless of material shortage, it would have been more difficult to find working H-1 than H-60. But of course for the show's logistics, H-1 is much easier to obtain.

[MissLucas]

Damn it Giorgio! I was cheering for you when you went in for the double tap and then like a true millennial you get distracted by your smartphone!

[Netfoot]

2 hours ago, TV Anonymous said:

Unlimited ammunition.

But mostly, blanks.  Because none of them can hit a barn from the inside of the barn!

1 hour ago, MissLucas said:

I was cheering for you when you went in for the double tap...

Absolutely!

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...and then like a true millennial you get distracted by your smartphone!

Too true!

[Inquiry]

11 hours ago, Netfoot said:

It was that saintly aura I was talking about.  The director is making it pretty plain how things will end up, so they might as well have all fallen to their knees and started singing Jeff Buckley's "Hallelujah!" 

Hey, that could actually be good. Have Chandler come in, basking in a divine glow, with the music coming from a boombox Miller (the redhead) is holding. Every single character we've met that's still alive is crammed in the tiny room. They all have tears in their eyes, some are openly weeping. Then Mason goes up to Slattery, who just seconds ago seemed on the verge of death; touches his wounded friend and Slattery's eyes start to flutter open! Slattery, through glazed eyes, sees his Hero, his Brother in Arms, and with great effort props himself up and gives Tom a salute. We pan around Slattery's bed as every character, cheeks wet and eyes filled with awe and gratitude, gives Tom a salute.

Knowing this show, it wouldn't be "Hallelujah" playing throughout though. Probably "Proud To Be An American."

I mean, if you're going to go cheesy, at least commit.

Edited September 4, 2017 by Inquiry

[TV Anonymous]

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Edited September 4, 2017 by TV Anonymous

[FnkyChkn34]

So this season is moving slow, eh?

Sasha is awful. I need to know why she's in charge; I don't understand at all. Green and Wolf should be in charge on ground missions, no doubt. They were last season when Chandler was still in charge so why not now? I didn't mind Sasha before but now I really can't stand her. Rachel Scott was a much better female lead. 

I liked Mike's drug induced dreams. It made the character more human to me  finally.  I know Adam Baldwin from Chuck, where he played the same type of emotionless military commander and this episode was a nice little break. 

Yes, the ending was super cheesy. Yes, I liked it anyway. 

I'm still waiting for them all to shave... Green is usually my guilty pleasure, hot man in a uniform, but man he looks goofy with a beard...

[BasilSeal]

I think the plant virus aspect of the plot is only part of it, (just as well, as it makes absolutely no sense). Weller's mad scientist character talked to Chandler about man's propensity for violence, that and some of his comments in this episode suggest that he's planning to subvert this violent instinct most probably using the red rust related drug that is administered to Slattery. the drug makes Slattery have nice dreams about his  (presumably dead, but who knows with the last ship) kids, whilst a violent gun battle carries on around him. 

The people on the Greek island where Chandler dumped his kids, before embarking on a top level shagging and fighting mission, had loads of people in a drugged stupor because of the 'nostos' potion. It's got to be significant. my guess is Robo Cop is intending to chemically lobotomize the World's population in order to make them less fighty, and only the crew of the Nathan James can stop him, via the medium of lots of guns, blowing shit up, oh, and beards.

[Raja]

I like the Military Porn and the sailors talking like what I think a Combat Information Center is within reason of what it is supposed to sound like. I guess many have a problem with a spy with an almost impossible to obtain particular set of skills having some strategic command over the operations of the SEAL officer , his Australian CPO counterpart and their field promoted into SEAL comrades.

[BasilSeal]

33 minutes ago, Raja said:

I guess many have a problem with a spy with an almost impossible to obtain particular set of skills having some strategic command over the operations of the SEAL officer , his Australian CPO counterpart and their field promoted into SEAL comrades

I take your point, but I'm not so bothered about those sort of inaccuracies, or the 'they're doing guns wrong' stuff, the programme is an escapist fantasy where pretty people fire lots of guns in an exciting way and kill lots of bad guys whilst miraculously avoiding getting killed themselves (mostly). I'd quite like an interesting plot that made some sort of sense and some sort of consistent view of what the post apocalyptic world this is all set in is actually like though. It's early days yet and this could still happen, but i'm not holding my breath, They could have explained what's happening with the governance of Greece, but they didn't, instead some guy who dresses like he's on the way to a Miami Vice themed fancy dress party is in charge, for some reason.

[ChiliCrab]

4 hours ago, BasilSeal said:

I think the plant virus aspect of the plot is only part of it, (just as well, as it makes absolutely no sense). Weller's mad scientist character talked to Chandler about man's propensity for violence, that and some of his comments in this episode suggest that he's planning to subvert this violent instinct most probably using the red rust related drug that is administered to Slattery. the drug makes Slattery have nice dreams about his  (presumably dead, but who knows with the last ship) kids, whilst a violent gun battle carries on around him. 

This is very possible. Also, there was a scene where the Dr Vellek's other son mentioned something about the results of a research on brain function. Maybe the seeds are somehow part of that experiment. I'm convinced though that his son is a hallucination because of how confused and bewildered Lucia and Giorgio when it the doctor stopped and turned to his other kid.

[FnkyChkn34]

I still like the show.  It's goofy and completely unrealistic, but I like it.  I like Chandler's character, and most of the characters, but I just don't understand Sasha...

On 9/5/2017 at 8:54 AM, Raja said:

I guess many have a problem with a spy with an almost impossible to obtain particular set of skills having some strategic command over the operations of the SEAL officer , his Australian CPO counterpart and their field promoted into SEAL comrades.

Yes, yes we do.  Does it make ANY sense??  As I said above, this show is completely unrealistic, but I feel like until this season, one thing that they did do well was showing the chain of command.  I guess not anymore.

23 hours ago, ChiliCrab said:

This is very possible. Also, there was a scene where the Dr Vellek's other son mentioned something about the results of a research on brain function. Maybe the seeds are somehow part of that experiment. I'm convinced though that his son is a hallucination because of how confused and bewildered Lucia and Giorgio when it the doctor stopped and turned to his other kid.

Good call.  I didn't even think of that, but now that you say it, I like this theory.

[oakville]

The good scientist kid seemed to be real to me. 

I want to know how Robocop can control the remnants of the Greek Navy.

Why did Spiro have to listen to Lucia before firing missiles at the hélicopter or Nathan James?

Its ludicrous. 

Why doesn't the US Navy have any other functioning ships 16 months later ?

[BasilSeal]

1 hour ago, oakville said:

The good scientist kid seemed to be real to me. 

I want to know how Robocop can control the remnants of the Greek Navy.

Why did Spiro have to listen to Lucia before firing missiles at the hélicopter or Nathan James?

Its ludicrous. 

Why doesn't the US Navy have any other functioning ships 16 months later ?

 You'd think that manpower rather than hardware would be the problem. i suppose some captains may have scuttled their ships when it became clear that they and their crew were going to die of the red flu, to prevent them falling into enemy hands, but you'd think there were some ships in home ports. I could believe that in the circumstances the Nathan James was the last ship to remain operational, but not that it's the last US Navy ship that exists.

[oakville]

40 minutes ago, BasilSeal said:

 You'd think that manpower rather than hardware would be the problem. i suppose some captains may have scuttled their ships when it became clear that they and their crew were going to die of the red flu, to prevent them falling into enemy hands, but you'd think there were some ships in home ports. I could believe that in the circumstances the Nathan James was the last ship to remain operational, but not that it's the last US Navy ship that exists.

Why haven't we seen other Navy officers being trained?

Tex's daughter is now a gunner on the Helo. 

Couldnt you train other people to help run other ships? 

Surely some other Navy officers survived?

its a bit confusing to follow what state the USA is in.

last year, the media was operating. There seemed to be a functioning military or national guard that was busy putting up border walls.

Now? 

[BasilSeal]

3 minutes ago, oakville said:

Why haven't we seen other Navy officers being trained?

Tex's daughter is now a gunner on the Helo. 

Couldnt you train other people to help run other ships? 

Surely some other Navy officers survived?

its a bit confusing to follow what state the USA is in.

last year, the media was operating. There seemed to be a functioning military or national guard that was busy putting up border walls.

Now? 

These are the problems i have, also, last season they were acting on executive orders from the president, now they are on their own and acting autonomously again. It's annoying that all this stuff is just hand waived away when it could be quite easily explained without boring us to death with exposition, there's no attempt to build a consistent believable world beyond the Nathan James, they could get away with that in the first 2 seasons because no one could really know what was going on in the rest of the world because the crew didn't know either, but now a very different world to the one we know has been created, i really think they need to flesh it out a bit.

[TV Anonymous]

On 9/5/2017 at 7:54 AM, Raja said:

I like the Military Porn and the sailors talking like what I think a Combat Information Center is within reason of what it is supposed to sound like. I guess many have a problem with a spy with an almost impossible to obtain particular set of skills having some strategic command over the operations of the SEAL officer , his Australian CPO counterpart and their field promoted into SEAL comrades.

I do not like their ignoring the grooming standards while in uniform, though...

[Raja]

38 minutes ago, TV Anonymous said:

I do not like their ignoring the grooming standards while in uniform, though...

After  Chandler stopped saluting uncovered as he did in the first couple of episodes with the attached cry from us mil-porn fans I think they have done better than many miltary based shows on that point. The complaints this season seem to be focused on Vulture Team. But as a provisional SEAL Team the hair is part of operational necessities. If needed for a Presidential Unit Citation pictures they can shave and the spy and Kenyan could lose their skinny jeans 

Edited September 6, 2017 by Raja

[TV Anonymous]

Special Operators can and do wear beards while on the mission. The time they do that though, they are either not in uniform or in 'sterile' uniform. I do have issue with their in their NWU with all insignia (name, rank, service, unit) and still keeping their beard. That is a no-no, even for Special Warfare community. The Unit depicted this better. They wore their hair and beard long when downfield, dog-face and high and tight when back and in uniform.

Edited September 6, 2017 by TV Anonymous

[Raja]

13 minutes ago, TV Anonymous said:

Special Operators can and do wear beards while on the mission. The time they do that though, they are either not in uniform or in 'sterile' uniform. I do have issue with their in their NWU with all insignia (name, rank, service, unit) and still keeping their beard. That is a no-no, even for Special Warfare community. The Unit depicted this better. They wore their hair and beard long when downfield, dog-face and high and tight when back and in uniform.

The thing is because of the limited force size other teams can't go operational while Vulture is in reserve and shaved. Trying to beard back up for an operation but biology not letting them get ready. Where as Sgt Major Blane's team can stand down and another Delta, or SEAL Team could be on alert 

[Netfoot]

3 hours ago, Raja said:

After  Chandler stopped saluting uncovered...

Isn't that pretty standard in the US military?

3 hours ago, Raja said:

But as a provisional SEAL Team...

I hate to hear this bunch of jokers called that.

You don't get to be a member of the SAS unless you pass selection.  But maybe any joker who can fire 3-400 rounds without hitting something gets to be a SEAL team member. 

[Raja]

1 hour ago, Netfoot said:

Isn't that pretty standard in the US military?

I hate to hear this bunch of jokers called that.

You don't get to be a member of the SAS unless you pass selection.  But maybe any joker who can fire 3-400 rounds without hitting something gets to be a SEAL team member. m

The naval services  US NAVY  and USMC only salute or return them while wearing a hat. The Army and USAF are not as particular and even use the left hand if your right is injured.

The provisional Rangers  (LURPS) of the Vietnam era, when there were no Ranger Battalion sometimes get accused of stolen valour. Even without going through a course they are taking the risk we now reserve for others because we have a Ranger School, Special Forces qualification courses and Basic Underwater Demolition Schools 

[Netfoot]

I was just saying that "SEAL" is not a generic term for a special forces soldier.  Receiving "on the job" training on this particular ship should not automatically entitle someone to claim to be a SEAL.  Or a member of the 22nd Regiment SAS.  Or a Russian Spetsnaz.

[Raja]

5 minutes ago, Netfoot said:

I was just saying that "SEAL" is not a generic term for a special forces soldier.  Receiving "on the job" training on this particular ship should not automatically entitle someone to claim to be a SEAL.  Or a member of the 22nd Regiment SAS.  Or a Russian Spetsnaz.

They don't I called them provisional SEALS to describe their role. Much like the US ARMY changed Long Range Patrol companies into Provisional Ranger companies around 1968.

[raven]

On 9/4/2017 at 0:15 PM, oakville said:

During one scene when she was fighting with Giorgio's crew, her hair got in her face during the fight.

That was pretty funny.  She tries to swing it out of her face but doesn't succeed. 

Though she bugs me, I don't mind Sasha being snarky to Chandler since he did walk out on them and isn't he a civilian now?  I'm not sure.   I also hope he doesn't just slide back into command, but I'm afraid that's what will happen since Slattery is badly injured.

I also got the impression that Peter Weller's "good" son was a figment of his imagination, based on the facial expressions of the other two.   Maybe he died with all the other billions and it pushed him over the edge.

On 9/4/2017 at 5:05 PM, MissLucas said:

Damn it Giorgio! I was cheering for you when you went in for the double tap and then like a true millennial you get distracted by your smartphone!

LOL.  I admit I enjoy Giorgio as a villain.  His sister, not so much.  So she's so angry because Chandler "hurt" her because they had sex and he lied to her?  Didn't she lie to him?  Ughh why can't she just be out for power and whatever like Giorgio?

I like Eric Dane, but if the show is going to deify Chandler, I would rather he died or permanently retired with his kids so we can focus on the others.  He can take Sasha with him. I liked the ending montage except for the saintly glow with Chandler.

I'm also curious as to what's going on in the States - is there still the same President, is there a Congress, etc.

Thanks @Raja and @TV Anonymous for the grooming and saluting info!

[Raja]

I went through Armor School when it was still at Fort Knox. Every class had the student leader of the day reporting to a USMC Captain when we got to his class to be taught that bit of customs and courtesy before getting to his actual subject. Armor piercing ammunition types if memory serves. I  am reasonably sure the foreign students did not attend as that was classified knowledge. Meaning most of it was in military topic coffee table picture books 

[FnkyChkn34]

I don't have any special military knowledge, but I think it's obvious that Lt. Green is still the only special ops or SEAL on the show; he's still the only one who wears the different color scheme uniform. 

[jzygayle]

So.....has Chandler just abandoned his kids in Greece?  Or did I sleep through him evacuating them before he took up with Giorgio?

[Raja]

8 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I don't have any special military knowledge, but I think it's obvious that Lt. Green is still the only special ops or SEAL on the show; he's still the only one who wears the different color scheme uniform. 

Actually Chief Wolf is the Australian equivalent from their Clearance Diving Branch, much like the US Navy SEALs that also have their roots from the Underwater Demolition Teams but the SEALs got a new name. Although wrestler and Governor Jesse Ventura got the stolen valor acquisition because after going through the BUDS course he was assigned to a Underwater Demolition Unit and not a SEAL Team.

However we have been given a world where the SEAL and Ranger instructors died in the Red Flu, but yet when Nathan James sailed into Norfolk we have a SEAL standing watch in a guard tower. The tradition being what held the Nathan James crew together when everything else went to shit is a good reason why to keep the uniforms. However when sailors go to shore to fight you would think that surplus Army or Marine Corps uniforms like the Navy Seabees use would be better for their mission than the blue based camouflage working uniforms that the Navy is about to retire

Edited September 7, 2017 by Raja