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  1. Sorry if this has been mentioned, but this episode cemented my belief that DeVoe's master plan involves switching his mind into Barry's body. As the episode showed, before his body started to degrade, DeVoe had altruistic, lofty goals. I can easily see him using utilitarianism to rationalize his decision: taking Barry's life to save his own would have a net benefit for society. They also hammered home the point that both DeVoe and Barry being hit by lightning with the incident affecting one's mind and the other's body. De'Voe's body is failing because it can't handle the energy DeVoe's mind is siphoning. Barry's body is an infinite energy source.
  2. Not to defend Archie (seriously, what he did was idiotic), but didn't he only pull out the gun after one of the Serpents pulled out a knife and threatened him? Makes it a bit more understandable, to me anyway.
  3. I don't know, I thought the town's reaction to Archie's video was completely over the top. If Archie lived in any other town the video either would have only gotten a handful of views or been mocked mercilessly. If they wanted us to truly believe the town's reaction, they really shouldn't have shown the actual video. Given they did though, all I kept thinking was "in the past year this town has had two murders, several attempted murders (one during broad daylight), had a huge drug ring exposed, etc. yet THIS compels an emergency town hall meeting? Really?" I'm really enjoying Archie/Veronica and Bughead, but I think the writers have telegraphed (pretty subtly, I think) the issues that will eventually cause them to split. I think both couples will be broken up by the end of season 2, at the latest. I'd be happy to be wrong though. Part of me thinks the Archie PTSD storyline and Dark!Betty storyline might somehow converge. So the show will go there with Betty/Archie, but not in a way viewers are expecting. Honestly, I think that iteration would be the most satisfying (at least to me). Anyone else think there's something up with the librarian? Betty said she used to check the Nancy Drew book out all the time when she was a kid. Obviously, she's not the killer, but the killer might be her son or something. This made me laugh way more than it should. I still think Fred's the best parent on the show, but that's not a very high bar. He definitely seems more complacent, but I think that's for plot-related purposes. I did love the scene with Archie/Fred after they found the hood in Archie's locker. Both actors nailed that scene. Fred was close to tears when he said Archie was scaring him MORE THAN THE MAN WHO JUST SHOT HIM and Archie's realization (and subsequent guilt) was written all over Archie's face. Also, little things like Archie being terrified when Veronica went to open the door after Reggie knocked goes a long way toward showing how truly messed up Archie is at the moment.
  4. I will just say this: no matter what you think of the various iterations of Harrison Wells, Tom Cavanagh is a damn treasure. The scene where he told Wally that Jesse was breaking up with him was absolute gold. The highlight was the microsecond death stare Wells gave Wally after Jesse-through-Wells said she'd always remember Wally because he was her first. The group's background reactions were also spectacular after that reveal.
  5. Damn, this episode was great. This series has evolved into such a great show over the years. They always had the right actors (that's what got me through most of season 1), but the writing had to catch up. I truly believe this will end up a cult classic. There are just two things I'll note about this episode that I found the most powerful: 1) The way Gordon's death happened felt very real to life. It's usually unexpected and you usually never get to say goodbye. It isn't clean and pat. Joe staring at the whiteboard with only the words "Re-Launch" written on it perfectly symbolizes that. There would have been more, but Gordon didn't want to start working on something for 15 minutes when he has to go in an hour. It's better to just save it for tomorrow. Even though he and Joe were both so excited, those words on the whiteboard will be the only thing Gordon got to do in pursuit of his and Joe's goal. Donna leaving a voicemail for Gordan when he was already dead also brought that point home. I really REALLY hope that we're going to be getting some flashbacks because I love Gordan and the actor is absolutely brilliant. 2) Joe and Donna's conversation might be my favorite scene from this season (maybe even the series). Everything about it was just great. Joe bringing up the things Donna did to him, especially alluding to Texas, was a highlight. I always hated that Donna constantly did these shitty things to Joe, but always talked to/about him with such smug superiority. I never necessarily minded what Donna did, it was her lack of self-awareness that bugged me. It seemed the show wanted to say that Joe was The Worst and Donna was forced to do those shitty things by Evil Joe. I feel like that barrier completely dissolved (or certainly weakened) when Joe said that he knew being cast as the Machiavellian villain wasn't fun because he'd been there. It really put things in perspective and was a fantastic moment. One that could only be created because of the unique relationship these two characters have with one another. By the way, am I the only one who thought the actors had amazing chemistry together? Maybe the writers never gave us much Donna/Joe scenes because they saw the chemistry too. Okay, one more thing: I'm starting to think Joe/Cameron won't end the series together. If they do, I really don't think she'll be pregnant. I'm envisioning a non-acrimonious break-up soon and Joe taking up the mantle of surrogate dad, especially with Hailey. I don't think the writers have any intention of putting Joe and Donna together romantically, but they'll act as a quasi-family unit. Of course, I don't know how that would mesh with the inevitable Donna/Cameron reunion. ETA: I lied. One final thing: my god, Gordan's death scene was so gut-wrenching. The director certainly was a fan of the lens flare, but the actor just absolutely nailed it (I second the poster who said he's woefully underappreciated). Is it ridiculous for me to have also wanted Joe somehow included even though it would make no sense? Like, we just see a shot of Joe in the background standing outside Gordon and Donna's window as they saw the kids off to school? LOL. I guess it's just my love for the Joe/Gordan relationship. I will sorely miss their scenes together...annndd now I'm back to hoping we'll get flashbacks with Gordan in the episodes to come.
  6. Interesting. I have sympathy with Frank, but what he was doing with Bree was bullshit. I thought it was clear Frank didn't want to sue for custody because he knew he'd lose. Honestly, him gaining even partial custody would have been a huge win, especially given his adultery. I saw Frank as trying to circumvent the courts and Claire. It was him basically spitting in her face as soon as he could and, again, I say that as someone who largely sympathizes with Frank. I can understand that the anger and resentment had been building up for 20 years, but trying to take Bree from Claire (and forcing his daughter to make that choice KNOWING that she doesn't know pivotal information) was downright vengeful. Honestly, I felt like it made Frank more of a tragic character. He didn't start this way. But after 20 years of unacknowledged tension and bitterness (that was largely wrought by his own hand, making it even sadder) changed him. I guess I'm saying I don't think that change made Frank more sympathetic. It just made him less sympathetic differently.
  7. Get out of my head! That's exactly what I was thinking. Could possibly happen when Jon and Dany are on the King's Road or at Winterfell.
  8. Yeah, I hadn't considered that. I mean, it could be worked around but I don't know if the writers will want to invest that much time in the character. Unfortunately, I think you're right. The writers won't/can't go too much in Rhaegar's characterization. I'm guessing that most of the information we'll get about him will come from Three Eyed Braven. Oh, and Jon is DEFINITELY going to ride Rhaegal next season. In the earlier outlines of Season 7, his fall into the lake happened because he was riding Viserion when the Night King no scoped Viserion. One of the reasons the writers cut that out is because they wanted the symbolism of Jon's first dragon ride being on Rhaegal.
  9. Yeah, I think making JonCon head of the Golden Company would be great and allow the viewers to know more about Rhaegar. As for him not helping Dany/Viserys making him unsympathetic; I think that could be resolved. He could be tormented over that (something like the brother and sister of Rhaegar Targaryen deserved more than to be raised by the man that failed their brother) or have him simply say "I have no love for the Targaryeans, but Rhaegar was as a brother. I swore an oath to protect him and his children, not you and Viserys." Really, there's a lot of ways they can explain his absence (this is all under the assumption he never knew about Jon because why would he?). I know he wouldn't be like the book character, but we are far past that point anyway. Having a character that was once extremely loyal to Rhaegar, but grew disillusioned after his death and ended up as the leader of the Golden Company (whose only loyalty is to gold) would be interesting, in my opinion. And, if used correctly, it would provide the viewers with more information about Rhaegar, which I think is needed.
  10. I'll agree that Dany didn't lie because she had no inkling of the truth, but I think it might matter to a just informed, emotionally raw Sam that the justification used to burn his brother and father alive isn't even true.
  11. I never said that the only reason Jon would marry Dany is that he doesn't want to father a bastard, but I do think it will be a large motivating factor. Not wanting to father a bastard is ingrained in Jon's characterization. How do you think the incest conflict will be played out to make it palatable to casual viewers? Also, I think you're ignoring a huge part of Dany's character in believing that she'll just be fine with Jon being the heir because they're in love and can just marry. Dany believing herself to be the rightful ruler of Westeros has been a fundamental part of her story. That's definitely going to cause some turmoil for her/them. ETA: Or what madam magpie said.
  12. Not the poster you're quoting, but Jon and Dany's reactions to the news will likely be unfavorable, at best. I imagine that Jon, at the very least, will feel like the relationship cannot continue because of the reveal. I imagine he'll be conflicted about it up till the moment he finds out Dany's pregnant. Then he'll still be conflicted, but he'll marry her to prevent bringing another bastard into the world. Not to mention, Dany will have to come to terms with Jon's right to the throne.
  13. Yeah, I almost feel like they have to show Dany and Jon having grown close before the big reveal. It makes so much sense from a story-telling perspective. Them becoming close will only make the reveal that much more painful for the characters. Plus, showing them happy together will make the scene where Jon and/or Dany discover their familial connection that much more powerful to the audience because we will have seen them happily together before everything tumbles down. I'm just hoping the shortened season won't require the removal of scenes like this and the first scene of season 8 isn't Jon and Dany entering Winterfell. I'm hoping the writers (and HBO) noted the criticisms of the shortened season 7, principally the story's pacing, and will remedy the problem as best they're able (making each episode at least an hour and a half each would be great).
  14. Hey, that could actually be good. Have Chandler come in, basking in a divine glow, with the music coming from a boombox Miller (the redhead) is holding. Every single character we've met that's still alive is crammed in the tiny room. They all have tears in their eyes, some are openly weeping. Then Mason goes up to Slattery, who just seconds ago seemed on the verge of death; touches his wounded friend and Slattery's eyes start to flutter open! Slattery, through glazed eyes, sees his Hero, his Brother in Arms, and with great effort props himself up and gives Tom a salute. We pan around Slattery's bed as every character, cheeks wet and eyes filled with awe and gratitude, gives Tom a salute. Knowing this show, it wouldn't be "Hallelujah" playing throughout though. Probably "Proud To Be An American." I mean, if you're going to go cheesy, at least commit.
  15. Huh? The reactions from the other crew members seemed like a mixed bag. Definitely didn't get the sense they were worshipping him (the director, however, with that light basking behind Chandler as he entered the ship certainly provided a messianic image). I'm guessing the next episode will explore the crew's reaction to being back after "abandoning them."
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