truthaboutluv January 3, 2018 Share January 3, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Florinaldo said: Their "bottom line" (actually at the top of the article): "Penelope Cruz and Edgar Ramirez take a backseat to Darren Criss in a juicy if uneven saga". That last description reminds me of RM's recent series on the Crawford/Davis feud; juicy if uneven indeed but up for a few Globes. It also reminds me of The People vs. O.J. Simpson. I'm not sure if that was an unpopular opinion but I felt that while the series started very strong, it sort of lagged in the end and I wasn't particularly in love with the finale. Typical Ryan Murphy and company fare though - i.e. there are impressive and strong parts but it doesn't always work as cohesively as it should. Edited January 4, 2018 by truthaboutluv 1 Link to comment
Florinaldo January 4, 2018 Share January 4, 2018 (edited) On 03/01/2018 at 11:59 AM, truthaboutluv said: Good for Darren. If nothing else, as long as the reviews are good, I imagine the goodwill from how well received The People vs. OJ Simpson was, will guarantee the show and the actors will be in Awards contention. Awards can certainly be a factor, but I think that most important for his further employment prospects will be the level of his performance in this new show. Production companies will not wait for awards season to consider him (or not) for other roles or productions. Playing Cunanan is a wise showcase for an actor, although risky because you can fall flat on your face: a charming mythomaniac who lied to just about everyone he met and was a different person to each of his friends and acquaintances according to reports and remains a cypher to this day, on top of being a spree killer, is a truly meaty part, which always gets people's attention. DC already showed he could stretch beyond his expected comfort zone by taking on the role of Hedwig, a turn which was I believe very well received all over. But the nature of this new role goes beyond that, if written faithfully to the book it is based on. On 03/01/2018 at 1:07 PM, truthaboutluv said: Typical Ryan Murphy and company fare though - i.e. there are impressive and strong parts but it doesn't always work as cohesively as it should. Something that could also be said about Glee, although it was not really a continuous story arc as is the case with the two ACS shows. Edited January 7, 2018 by Florinaldo Because "spree killer" is the more correct term. 1 Link to comment
caracas1914 January 5, 2018 Author Share January 5, 2018 (edited) Lea Michele’s TV show “The Mayor” has been cancelled by ABC: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/mayor-canceled-at-abc-will-be-shopped-1060810 The producers will try to shop the comedy somewhere else...... Edited January 5, 2018 by caracas1914 Link to comment
Florinaldo January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 (edited) As can be expected for a major new TV show, the cast of ACS Versace (after acting as presenters at the Golden Globes) will be making the rounds of various talk shows; I would not be surprised if RM and the writers do the same. For his part, at present Darren Criss is scheduled to appear on Jimmy Kimmel on January 10th, on Good Morning America on the 15th, on Kelly and Ryan on the 17th, and on MTV's TRL on the 17th. As usual, this is all subject to change if important news events, the weather or unexpected personal factors intervene. There may be others to come, as well as radio spots. The Fox/FX TCA Press Tour took place on Thursday and Friday; a transcript or at least excerpts from the panel DC and RM were on might pop up here and there on the Web, but other media pieces, like this one, from the event are starting to appear: http://hollywoodlife.com/2018/01/05/darren-criss-andrew-cunanan-role-american-crime-story-interview/ Edited January 6, 2018 by Florinaldo Link to comment
Florinaldo January 15, 2018 Share January 15, 2018 (edited) Two interviews with DC regarding the upcoming ACS Versace: one in the New York Times and one with USA Today. Reviews from people who received the screeners discussed upthread have been coming out. A number of them can be found under the umbrella of Metacritic, but several other ones have also been published, for example in the Miami New Times, in Newsday, on Decider and in Canada's Globe and Mail. Mostly positive comments, especially towards the cast, with reservations mainly directed at narrative choices and the music score. Premiere is this Wednesday. ETA: Another interview, with the San Francisco Chronicle, discussing ACS but also getting into DC's roots as a native of the city. Edited January 16, 2018 by Florinaldo Because Thursday is not the same as Wednesday Link to comment
Florinaldo January 17, 2018 Share January 17, 2018 Another reviews aggregator has a generally positive verdict on the new series: Rotten Tomatoes comes to an 84 % approval rating from 43 reviews and summarizes it as "Critics Consensus: The Assassination of Versace starts with a bang and unfurls slowly, moving backward through an intricate (and occasionally convoluted) murder mystery anchored by a career-defining performance from Darren Criss". Plus DC interviews on The Daily Beast and Elvis Duran. He was on Kelly and Ryan this morning but I did not watch it; I am sure it will eventually pop up on YouTube or some blog. Link to comment
Acceleration January 30, 2018 Share January 30, 2018 I am not surprised and honestly, I don’t feel any sympathy for him Outside of the fact that he’s a human being, but daaaaamn. The thought of rewatching Glee at this point is painful, because I used to get so much joy of watching it and being snarky about it online, now all I see is Cory and being creeped out by Mark. 9 Link to comment
truthaboutluv January 30, 2018 Share January 30, 2018 Yeah, hadn't he already tried to kill himself when the trial was going on? And yes, like you, I don't think I can rewatch Glee now and that was already a struggle because of how awful it was in the last few seasons. 2 Link to comment
WhosThatGirl January 30, 2018 Share January 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Acceleration said: I am not surprised and honestly, I don’t feel any sympathy for him Outside of the fact that he’s a human being, but daaaaamn. The thought of rewatching Glee at this point is painful, because I used to get so much joy of watching it and being snarky about it online, now all I see is Cory and being creeped out by Mark. This is what I feel. I haven’t rewatched Glee since it ended. Link to comment
Artsda January 30, 2018 Share January 30, 2018 Saw that on TMZ. Sad when anyone takes their own life, wish he would have gotten help. 3 Link to comment
Lady Calypso January 30, 2018 Share January 30, 2018 It feels a little surreal, to be honest. No matter my recent feelings on Mark Salling, this show was somewhat important to me and I enjoyed it for the first several seasons. Hell, I even happily snarked on it for the last couple. I haven't really been able to rewatch, with Cory's death (I have had strong feelings about that for a long time now), and with knowing the behind the scenes drama that went on. This just adds onto the reason why I probably won't be rewatching for a long, long time. I mean, if I ever did rewatch, not only would I have to see Puck onscreen and think "hey, he was found guilty for having child pornography", but now to think "hey, he's also dead on top of being found guilty for having child pornography." 11 Link to comment
WhosThatGirl January 30, 2018 Share January 30, 2018 Above post too, yeah Glee was something important to me too. I go back and forth on it a lot because of the situations that have happened in real life of the show. 2 Link to comment
marymon January 30, 2018 Share January 30, 2018 I have no problem watching glee still. He was messed up and I have no sympathy for him but I'm sad it happened and how it will effect others. 4 Link to comment
mtlchick January 30, 2018 Share January 30, 2018 51 minutes ago, Artsda said: Saw that on TMZ. Sad when anyone takes their own life, wish he would have gotten help. Sadly I don't think he would have. How can anyone really recover from what he did? I feel awful for the people he hurt and I feel sad for the family members he leaves behind. But it's hard for me to find sympathy in what he did. 7 Link to comment
GaT January 30, 2018 Share January 30, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Artsda said: Sad when anyone takes their own life, wish he would have gotten help. The time for him to have gotten help was before he committed crimes against children. Now would have been too late, he wasn't the victim. Edited January 30, 2018 by GaT 13 Link to comment
Florinaldo January 30, 2018 Share January 30, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, marymon said: I have no problem watching glee still. He was messed up and I have no sympathy for him but I'm sad it happened and how it will effect others. I am with you on rewatching the show. If a particular scene is disquieting because of the real-life behaviour of one of the actors, I can just skip or FF through it. Same with movies or other TV shows where one central actor (or either the writers and director) died in tragic circumstances as happened to many, or had a troubled later life as drug addicts, criminals or murderers, when and if it does indeed bother me, which does not happen in every instance. In his case though, his actions are so egregious that the FF button might be mandatory. It would be different it MS had been the lead of Glee of if his character had taken center stage every episode. His individual performances and sub-plots can be edited out as need be with the simple push of a single button. Edited January 31, 2018 by Florinaldo 1 Link to comment
camussie January 31, 2018 Share January 31, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, mtlchick said: Sadly I don't think he would have. How can anyone really recover from what he did? I feel awful for the people he hurt and I feel sad for the family members he leaves behind. But it's hard for me to find sympathy in what he did. I agree with this. I am also bothered by the linking Cory's and Mark's deaths. See Paris Barclay's Tweet and Matthew Morrison's Instagram. On one hand I get why people link them. On the other it seems disrespectful to Cory's family and loved ones to compare him to Mark or to group him with Mark. Cory was an addict and of course that is not something to be celebrated nor admired but it also isn't something akin to pedophilia. From all accounts Cory was a good person despite his personal demons. Meanwhile Mark's Salling's pedophilia means he was a bad person. Full stop. Edited January 31, 2018 by camussie 13 Link to comment
Sara2009 January 31, 2018 Share January 31, 2018 46 minutes ago, camussie said: I agree with this. I am also bothered by the linking Cory's and Mark's deaths. See Paris Barclay's Tweet and Matthew Morrison's Instagram. On one hand I get why people link them. On the other it seems disrespectful to Cory's family and loved ones to compare him to Mark or to group him with Mark. Cory was an addict and of course that is not something to be celebrated nor admired but it also isn't something akin to pedophilia. From all accounts Cory was a good person despite his personal demons. Meanwhile Mark's Salling's pedophilia means he was a bad person. Full stop. It bothers me too, but I’m trying not to judge any of the cast and crew too harshly for how they react. I’m sure a lot of them are feeling really conflicted right now. 2 Link to comment
caracas1914 January 31, 2018 Author Share January 31, 2018 It’s just so...wow. One of my absolute favorite Glee numbers used to be Mark as Puck singing “Sweet Caroline” in season one. I just don’t think I could force myself to ever watch it again. 2 Link to comment
camussie January 31, 2018 Share January 31, 2018 (edited) I was never a huge Puck fan to begin with (partly because of Mark's limited acting and partly because Mark always came across as a bit skeezy to me). Because of that I fast forward through most of his scenes in rewatches except oddly "The Quarterback" where his song was the one that most got to me. As I plan on never watching that episode again (I have seen it twice and twice is enough) there is only song that I absolutely love that I will now fast forward through in rewatches - "Glory Days." Edited January 31, 2018 by camussie 1 Link to comment
aradia22 January 31, 2018 Share January 31, 2018 I think the closest I got to liking Puck was when they would pair him with Rachel. I think "Need You Now" and "Sweet Caroline" were part of that but I may be mistaken. Still, even if he wasn't one of my favorite characters, it's a weird feeling when someone commits suicide. I wasn't exactly hoping for his comeback but the news was still unsettling when I read it. Just to clarify, because so many people are always being shitty and it's been a while... was he charged with being in possession of child pornography, creating child pornography, actually molesting or sexually abusing someone underage or some combination thereof? Link to comment
truthaboutluv January 31, 2018 Share January 31, 2018 6 hours ago, aradia22 said: was he charged with being in possession of child pornography, creating child pornography, actually molesting or sexually abusing someone underage or some combination thereof? I believe it was just possession of child pornography. His sentence was going to be 5-7 years in prison, then probation and he would have had to register as a sex offender. Link to comment
camussie January 31, 2018 Share January 31, 2018 (edited) Here is a good summary Quote In all, authorities reportedly found over 50,000 images and videos of child pornography and erotica on Salling's laptop, while a thumb drive held an additional 4,000 images and 160 videos. Per federal prosecutors, some of Salling's victims were aged between three and five years old. Salling admitted to using software to hide his IP and download child pornography. Rolling Stone It completely skeeves me out to think that more than likely between breaks in filming Glee he was going back to his trailer and watching children as young 3 being sexually abused. Edited January 31, 2018 by camussie 5 Link to comment
Pink ranger January 31, 2018 Share January 31, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, camussie said: I agree with this. I am also bothered by the linking Cory's and Mark's deaths. See Paris Barclay's Tweet and Matthew Morrison's Instagram. On one hand I get why people link them. On the other it seems disrespectful to Cory's family and loved ones to compare him to Mark or to group him with Mark. Cory was an addict and of course that is not something to be celebrated nor admired but it also isn't something akin to pedophilia. From all accounts Cory was a good person despite his personal demons. Meanwhile Mark's Salling's pedophilia means he was a bad person. Full stop. Matthews memory of Mark and Cory are equal because of the shared experience of Glee. He wasn't commenting on their relative private lives but on his gut reaction of how that's now two of his friends from a specific phase of his life that are dead young. Its natural. Edited January 31, 2018 by Pink ranger 5 Link to comment
camussie January 31, 2018 Share January 31, 2018 Like I said on one hand I get why people link them but on the other it bothers me because, putting myself in Cory's family's shoes, I know I wouldn't want my loved one grouped with a pedophiliac. Despite his issues that killed him and yes hurt the people around him there is no evidence that he ever aided and abetted the exploitation of children as young as 3. 5 Link to comment
Scarlett45 January 31, 2018 Share January 31, 2018 17 hours ago, mtlchick said: Sadly I don't think he would have. How can anyone really recover from what he did? I feel awful for the people he hurt and I feel sad for the family members he leaves behind. But it's hard for me to find sympathy in what he did. So much this. I feel awful for his parents and/or loved ones and their grief. I feel awful for the number of children that were hurt by his crimes, but for HIM?! Nah. I was thinking about re-watching Glee the other day, the early seasons were a joy despite the sadness of Corey’s passing and the sickness of Mark’s crimes. 2 Link to comment
aradia22 January 31, 2018 Share January 31, 2018 I feel a little conflicted about the language being used. Obviously his predilection elicits disgust and I understand how being a market creates a demand that leads to the exploitation of child victims. But unless I'm missing something, he didn't sexually abuse a minor. He also didn't try to use his fame to coerce a minor or their guardian into creating child pornography (Anthony Weiner, some shitty youtubers). I don't have a problem thinking he should have served jail time for his crime but he didn't need to kill himself. And there's tragedy in that. Of course, if his crimes were more along those lines and that just hasn't been stated, then yes, I think the offence is worse. 1 Link to comment
Scarlett45 January 31, 2018 Share January 31, 2018 3 hours ago, aradia22 said: I feel a little conflicted about the language being used. Obviously his predilection elicits disgust and I understand how being a market creates a demand that leads to the exploitation of child victims. But unless I'm missing something, he didn't sexually abuse a minor. He also didn't try to use his fame to coerce a minor or their guardian into creating child pornography (Anthony Weiner, some shitty youtubers). I don't have a problem thinking he should have served jail time for his crime but he didn't need to kill himself. And there's tragedy in that. Of course, if his crimes were more along those lines and that just hasn't been stated, then yes, I think the offence is worse. With a little bit of life experience under my belt I HIGHLY doubt someone with that amount of child pornography in their possession never touched a child in real life. Often child porn charges are easier to prosecute and have longer statues of limitations. And yes, if you’re buying the product you are participating in the torture of inncocent children- some as young as THREE. On the flip side it is sucky that our legal system is set up in such a way it’s often easier to punish the person in possession of the video where a three year old is being raped rather than the person that made the video or sold the child for said purposes. That being sad, no, I don’t think that he “needed” to kill himself. As long as one is alive there is hope for change and to make amends, I would never use what he did to try and diminish the grief of his parents or loved ones. 2 Link to comment
mtlchick February 1, 2018 Share February 1, 2018 5 hours ago, aradia22 said: I don't have a problem thinking he should have served jail time for his crime but he didn't need to kill himself. And there's tragedy in that. He was facing 20 years and pleaded that down to 4-7. But then would have to register as a sex offender and be under supervised released for 20 years. Maybe he felt his career was over, and if he had to register, he would be lucky to get a job in any field or any where when he was released. We will never know. 2 Link to comment
MizStaken February 1, 2018 Share February 1, 2018 Make no mistake, his life was pretty much destroyed. And I hear that pedophiles and child molesters do not do well in jail, plus with his degree of celebrity, I have a feeling prison would have been beyond awful. Don’t get me wrong, I dispise what he’s done, and he deserved everything he had coming to him, but what did he have to live for? I feel bad for the people that knew and loved him, first to lose him due to his crimes then to lose him altogether. I’m sure it’s hard for anyone that knew him to really say anything, I’m sure most of his friends and costars had no idea what he was doing in private, there was the nice guy they knew, who turned out to be a monster. Can you still love the sinner and hate the sin? I just feel bad because I know there’s got to be feelings of sadness for the person they thought they knew. And I’m still ambivalent about whether I can watch Glee anymore. I know I can’t listen to anything he sings now. 2 Link to comment
legaleagle53 February 1, 2018 Share February 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, MizStaken said: Make no mistake, his life was pretty much destroyed. And I hear that pedophiles and child molesters do not do well in jail, plus with his degree of celebrity, I have a feeling prison would have been beyond awful. Don’t get me wrong, I despise what he’s done, and he deserved everything he had coming to him, but what did he have to live for? I feel bad for the people that knew and loved him, first to lose him due to his crimes then to lose him altogether. I’m sure it’s hard for anyone that knew him to really say anything, I’m sure most of his friends and costars had no idea what he was doing in private, there was the nice guy they knew, who turned out to be a monster. Can you still love the sinner and hate the sin? I just feel bad because I know there’s got to be feelings of sadness for the person they thought they knew. And I’m still ambivalent about whether I can watch Glee anymore. I know I can’t listen to anything he sings now. Of course it's possible to love the sinner and hate the sin. To forgive the offender does NOT mean to condone the offense. It's just that now, justice for Mark's victims is up to God, and God's perfect justice will ultimately prevail. 1 Link to comment
marymon February 1, 2018 Share February 1, 2018 Sadly I am not surprises but too many glee fans being are annoying the cast for not posting on social media about Mark. 1 Link to comment
caracas1914 February 1, 2018 Author Share February 1, 2018 (edited) There has to be so much mixed emotions for the cast and crew. First they find out this person they knew and worked with and probably had good times with was involved in such a heinous horrible practice. Make no mistake, child pornography as a business only exists because others are willing to circulate , view and pay for such filth. It’s beyond complicity, it’s perpetuating and abetting the abuse of children. It’s like the person who hires and pays a hit man to kill someone, they share culpability of the crime ; IMO Mark was guilty, so to speak of molesting minors. So the Glee cast /crew had to face that and perhaps most (understandably) closed the door on him. Who knows? However from even that to hearing that he killed himself, it still has to be very traumatic for all of them. The premature death of someone you bonded with and probably loved (to some level) has to be jarring. I can see why many can’t fathom how to respond or if to respond at all on social media....damned if they do or damned if they don’t. Someone is going to be offended. Edited February 1, 2018 by caracas1914 6 Link to comment
fakeempress February 1, 2018 Share February 1, 2018 17 hours ago, camussie said: It completely skeeves me out to think that more than likely between breaks in filming Glee he was going back to his trailer and watching children as young 3 being sexually abused. When this blew up, I thought for a moment that he was just trafficking material for cash rather than engaging in it. Not that it would've made it better or he couldn't have done both, but I was so shocked. The material as described in some articles is so graphic and inhumane, it's beyond my comprehension how someone would be involved in that, in whatever way. The cast and crew are surely conflicted and want to remember the good, but I winced when Iqbal tweeted how good he was with Iqbal's kids. But I get that it's so hard for them to reconcile the guy they knew with the guy who really was, and they dissociate. Correction: some of them. IIRC Naya said at the time she wasn't that surprised. Quote One of my absolute favorite Glee numbers used to be Mark as Puck singing “Sweet Caroline” in season one. Back during the first 13, I didn't think Finchel set the world on fire exactly. Sweet Caroline in Mash-Up made me perk up at the bad boy-good girl possibilities with Puck-- but in true Glee fashion this was over in one episode. I thought they had good chemistry. Now in hindsight, it's a bit of a relief. Link to comment
WhosThatGirl February 1, 2018 Share February 1, 2018 Yeah. I think many of them have stayed quiet because anything they say is going to be brought up somewhere. I’ve only seen a few things online and save for MMS Instagram post being the only main cast member who posted something , the rest being posted by non main cast members and I saw a brief clip from JL on e news from paparazzi and she just said something brief about it being “heartbreaking” and that’s it. I think it was hard for them when the news came out about him and now they are in between a rock and a hard place and it is sadly probably best for them to stay quiet. Link to comment
Scarlett45 February 1, 2018 Share February 1, 2018 4 hours ago, fakeempress said: But I get that it's so hard for them to reconcile the guy they knew with the guy who really was, and they dissociate. Correction: some of them. IIRC Naya said at the time she wasn't that surprised. After he and Naya broke up she wanted nothing to do with him, like NOTHING. I know breakups can be hard but it was a stark contrast compared to let’s say Nina Dobrev and Ian (I cannot spell his last name right now for the life of me) who still had to work together. Knowing what we know now, Naya may have gotten a bad feeling that creeped her out (I mean she was intimate with him) or saw something she wasn’t supposed to see that wasn’t at the level of “go to the police” but “I want this guy out of my life”. 3 hours ago, WhosThatGirl said: Yeah. I think many of them have stayed quiet because anything they say is going to be brought up somewhere. I’ve only seen a few things online and save for MMS Instagram post being the only main cast member who posted something , the rest being posted by non main cast members and I saw a brief clip from JL on e news from paparazzi and she just said something brief about it being “heartbreaking” and that’s it. I think it was hard for them when the news came out about him and now they are in between a rock and a hard place and it is sadly probably best for them to stay quiet. Yes. I don’t begrudge anyone’s right to mourn him, and attacking his parents or loved ones is inexcusable, but in this instance people are damned if they do or if they don’t. And many are probably very Conflicted and wonder how could they have seen one side of him and not the other. Link to comment
truthaboutluv February 1, 2018 Share February 1, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, marymon said: Sadly I am not surprises but too many glee fans being are annoying the cast for not posting on social media about Mark. Are some people really bugging the other cast members, about not saying anything about Mark? Oh what am I saying, this of course doesn't surprise me since people are annoying and on social media that annoyance gets ratcheted up to the hundredth power. I am sorry but I have no issues with any of the cast wanting to distance themselves from this as much as possible. Yes, it's tragic how Mark's life ended but the tragedy started from the moment or thing that led him to engage in such disturbing behavior. The guy was a heinous criminal - that's just a fact and I'm not going to judge Lea or Darren or Chris or any of them who want no part of this. Especially since no one ever owes anyone public sympathy messages on social media. And speaking of, US Weekly got dragged for their stories about him. US Weekly first tried it with this article from some source claiming how Mark never got over Cory's death, almost like tying Cory's death to the reason he killed himself. People in the comments were not here for that and frankly I called bullshit on that ridiculous piece as well. While I'm sure Mark was sad by Cory's death like all the cast and crew were, fact is, had his sex crimes not been exposed, he'd probably still be alive. Mark Salling killed himself because he was exposed as a pedophile and was going to face jail time for it, not to mention become a registered sex offender, and any career he hoped to have, was over. Edited February 1, 2018 by truthaboutluv 4 Link to comment
marymon February 1, 2018 Share February 1, 2018 28 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said: Are some people really bugging the other cast members, about not saying about Mark? Oh what am I saying, this of course doesn't surprise me since people are annoying and on social media that annoyance gets ratcheted up to the hundredth power. I am sorry but I have no issues with any of the cast wanting to distance themselves from this as much as possible. Yes, it's tragic how Mark's life ended but the tragedy started from the moment or thing that led him to engage in such disturbing behavior. The guy was a heinous criminal - that's just a fact and I'm not going to judge Lea or Darren or Chris or any of them who want no part of this. Especially since no one ever owes anyone public sympathy messages on social media. And speaking of, US Weekly got dragged for their stories about him. US Weekly first tried it with this article from some source claiming how Mark never got over Cory's death, almost like tying Cory's death to the reason he killed himself. People in the comments were not here for that and frankly I called bullshit on that ridiculous piece as well. While I'm sure Mark was sad by Cory's death like all the cast and crew were, fact is, had his sex crimes not been exposed, he'd probably still be alive. Mark Salling killed himself because he was exposed as a pedophile and was going to face jail time for it, not to mention become a registered sex offender, and any career he hoped to have, was over. Yes, dozens and maybe even hundreds on some cast's accounts, but many others are defending their silence too. The BS Mark was distraught over Cory come on he was a pedo before he knew Cory. Also another rag is invoking Cory and Lea, saying she is having a hard time since Cory died too, blah, blah. Link to comment
aradia22 February 1, 2018 Share February 1, 2018 (edited) Quote After he and Naya broke up she wanted nothing to do with him, like NOTHING. I know breakups can be hard but it was a stark contrast compared to let’s say Nina Dobrev and Ian (I cannot spell his last name right now for the life of me) who still had to work together. Knowing what we know now, Naya may have gotten a bad feeling that creeped her out (I mean she was intimate with him) or saw something she wasn’t supposed to see that wasn’t at the level of “go to the police” but “I want this guy out of my life”. Unrelated, but Naya says a lot of shit. I'm saying that as someone who read her book. Edited February 1, 2018 by aradia22 Link to comment
Scarlett45 February 1, 2018 Share February 1, 2018 7 hours ago, aradia22 said: Unrelated, but Naya says a lot of shit. I'm saying that as someone who read her book. Oh ok thank you! I did not read her book and I’m not too familiar with her (compared to Lea, Darren or Amber for example). Link to comment
buffy11bnl February 2, 2018 Share February 2, 2018 16 hours ago, Scarlett45 said: Oh ok thank you! I did not read her book and I’m not too familiar with her (compared to Lea, Darren or Amber for example). Spiritof76 did a great write up of it, about 1/2 way down the 3rd page of the Naya/Santana thread Link to comment
Florinaldo April 2, 2018 Share April 2, 2018 (edited) A bit of news regarding LM and DC. Let the speculation begin: joint recording, concert, show, play, or just a bit of inconsequential "cameo" fun on Ellen? We will know soon enough, being mindful as the article reminds us that listings are subject to change. Edited April 2, 2018 by Florinaldo Link to comment
itsjustme April 7, 2018 Share April 7, 2018 On 4/2/2018 at 4:29 PM, Florinaldo said: A bit of news regarding LM and DC. Let the speculation begin: joint recording, concert, show, play, or just a bit of inconsequential "cameo" fun on Ellen? We will know soon enough, being mindful as the article reminds us that listings are subject to change. well they did a photo-shoot together so more than just a fun cameo. Probably some tour dates together. Link to comment
Florinaldo April 7, 2018 Share April 7, 2018 (edited) Judging from the promo clip, the "cameo" part means being spotted sitting in the audience and then doing an interview (it may be a regular thing on Ellen). Edited April 7, 2018 by Florinaldo Link to comment
caracas1914 April 9, 2018 Author Share April 9, 2018 I’m curious why we haven’t gotten any formal date or announcement when Dreamgirls will open on Broadway; ie the West End production for which Amber Riley got the Olivier award. Perhaps still negotiating a venue. Link to comment
Florinaldo April 9, 2018 Share April 9, 2018 (edited) The announcement from LM and DC is indeed a tour together: 8 dates over 2 weeks, including a stop in Canada, sticking to the Eastern part of the continent. No word as to if other dates might be added; perhaps that is all they could fit at present in their window of joint availability or this is what seemed feasible commercially or in terms of logistics. And their Web designers apparently think Canada is divided into "Providences", not "Provinces"; I guess someone will correct that typo eventually. And here is their interview on today's Ellen. Edited April 9, 2018 by Florinaldo Link to comment
Pink ranger April 30, 2018 Share April 30, 2018 Does anybody know what is happening with Glee forum? It just suddenly closed without warning about a week a go. Link to comment
itsjustme May 8, 2018 Share May 8, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 3:37 PM, Pink ranger said: Does anybody know what is happening with Glee forum? It just suddenly closed without warning about a week a go. I think no more $. On 4/9/2018 at 8:29 AM, Florinaldo said: The announcement from LM and DC is indeed a tour together: 8 dates over 2 weeks, including a stop in Canada, sticking to the Eastern part of the continent. No word as to if other dates might be added; perhaps that is all they could fit at present in their window of joint availability or this is what seemed feasible commercially or in terms of logistics. And their Web designers apparently think Canada is divided into "Providences", not "Provinces"; I guess someone will correct that typo eventually. And here is their interview on today's Ellen. 5 more dates added Chicago, St Louis, Atlanta, Durham and Charlotte . https://www.lmdctour.com/ Link to comment
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