S05.E12: One Month Anniversary

[LennieBriscoe]

Are people watching and posting about TWO shows? What is this "Unfiltered"? I didn't see half of what's been posted about here!

I'm officially annoyed with all three wives. Go back to your losing dating attempts.

Edited June 30, 2017 by LennieBriscoe

[humbleopinion]

Unflitered is a 15 minute weekly show which Jamie Odious sits and watches snippets from each episode with the cast to get their take on what was going on and of course to insert herself into the show as much as possible...

You have to DVR it separately...

You've lost that loving feeling ...even for Ashley????

[Racj82]

On 6/30/2017 at 3:29 PM, humbleopinion said:

Unflitered is a 15 minute weekly show which Jamie Odious sits and watches snippets from each episode with the cast to get their take on what was going on and of course to insert herself into the show as much as possible...

You have to DVR it separately...

You've lost that loving feeling ...even for Ashley????

You don't actually have to dvr it separately. My dvr tapes all the married stuff. But, even more crazy is that the unfiltered for this episode is literally attached to the episode. It tapes as one complete thing. That's how I end up seeing it.

Edited July 2, 2017 by Racj82

[LennieBriscoe]

Not so with Tivo, Racj82. I always watch MAFS the next day, and have never seen "Unfiltered."  This episode ends with Sheila's saying, "I'm done." Then "Next time,....." previews.

Anyway, so yes, humbleopinion, even Ashley. I think she and we might be surprised if Anthony eventually "tells all" as he opts for divorce. 

Edited June 30, 2017 by LennieBriscoe

[Drogo]

Unfiltered did have its own thread, however, a poll of MAFS viewers showed that the vast majority of you watch it and want to discuss it here. 

If anyone has questions about this, hover over my name and click on " Message." 

[Empress1]

2 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

Not so with Tivo, Racj82. I always watch MAFS the next day, and have never seen "Unfiltered."  This episode ends with Sheila's saying, "I'm done." Then "Next time,....." previews.

Anyway, so yes, humbleopinion, even Ashley. I think she and we might be surprised if Anthony eventually "tells all" as he opts for divorce. 

My TiVo records it separately too, and I always delete "Unfiltered" unwatched.

I love s'mores (who doesn't?), but OUCH. Cody and Danielle are painful to watch. I think they could be buddies if they'd met under different circumstances - they looked like they were having fun working out. (I have workout buddies who are guys because the majority of my female friends work out way less than I do.) But I do not see a shred of sexual or romantic energy between them.

21 hours ago, potatochips said:

So....did Danielle really wear that medieval barmaid off the shoulder top to work? What kind of dietitian is she? I know dietitians can work in a variety of settings but I would think professional dress would be required in all of them. Clearly, she has no interest in Cody and is just doing the minimum of affection  to give the impression that she is trying. My guess is that she is counting the days until she can bolt.

Nate deserves a wife who is less moody and mean. 

Ashley is all in but I think Anthony will choose to move on without her.

There was one time they showed her leaving for work and she was in scrubs. And if there's one thing I've learned, it's that peoples' definition of professional dress can vary greatly. My boss had on a dress today where I thought, that is more lace than I would wear to work, but [shrug]. (It's hot as hell today so I think everybody was just like, let me wear what I can get away with and avoid sweating to death.)

I always call bags cornhole too, and I can't think of a dumber argument. I also didn't really get why Sheila was mad at Nate looking at living in a garage for $200 a month. What's the big deal? It's just him, he was trying to save money, and he's young enough that that would be a funny and not-really-that-weird story when he's older. I didn't get why she was so mad.

Edited June 30, 2017 by Empress1

[Jeanne222]

So does anybody think these three couples will make it to the end?  If you think yes I give them maybe three months before calling it quits.

Sheila has a fiery temperment  and is always ready to say 'I'm through'.  Nate seems to indicate he would chose momma over Shelia.  Momma is one high maintenience Mother.  Surely by now Shelia has figured out if Nate is good or bad with money?  Is there more we don't know?  I thought he was downsizing to get his charge accounts in order?  Not too sure about going into a 'garage'...really.

Danielle and Cody make me want to cry everytime I see them fumble through a show.  No hope there.  They just don't feel any love connection.  Are holding on to finish up their contract but it's painful to those of us watching.

I had a bit of hope for Ashley and David but the more I watch them the more I think they both prefer the single life to married life.  Ashley just wants a baby and I think Anthony is there because of pressure to marry somebody. 

[Empress1]

1 minute ago, Jeanne222 said:

So does anybody think these three couples will make it to the end?  If you think yes I give them maybe three months before calling it quits.

Sheila has a fiery temperment  and is always ready to say 'I'm through'.  Nate seems to indicate he would chose momma over Shelia.  Momma is one high maintenience Mother.  Surely by now Shelia has figured out if Nate is good or bad with money?  Is there more we don't know?  I thought he was downsizing to get his charge accounts in order?  Not too sure about going into a 'garage'...really.

I look at it like this: I wouldn't date someone who lived in a garage. But if I met someone and he was like, "Yeah, when I was 23, 24, my finances were a mess so I rented a garage for $200 a month for a year while I was working and paid off all my debt," I'd be like "Oh word? Good for you." Because to me, it shows financial responsibility (which is an absolute must have for me in a man. I don't do "bad with money." You can not have a lot of money, but you need to be responsible with what you do have) and I would think it was responsible of him to make that sacrifice. It's not really any different from living with your parents for a year or two while you get your shit together, and I've known a lot of people who have done that. Also, living in NYC for as long as I did, you're bound to meet somebody who rents a closet in their friends' place or something (true story. Dude slept in a sleeping bag. I think he paid like $150 a month or something) so weird living arrangements don't faze me that much. There's an age past which that stops being OK, but Nate is young.

(But I would have a lot of questions, like "Where did you shower and go to the bathroom?")

[Jeanne222]

1 minute ago, Empress1 said:

I look at it like this: I wouldn't date someone who lived in a garage. But if I met someone and he was like, "Yeah, when I was 23, 24, my finances were a mess so I rented a garage for $200 a month for a year while I was working and paid off all my debt," I'd be like "Oh word? Good for you." Because to me, it shows financial responsibility (which is an absolute must have for me in a man. I don't do "bad with money." You can not have a lot of money, but you need to be responsible with what you do have) and I would think it was responsible of him to make that sacrifice. It's not really any different from living with your parents for a year or two while you get your shit together, and I've known a lot of people who have done that. Also, living in NYC for as long as I did, you're bound to meet somebody who rents a closet in their friends' place or something (true story. Dude slept in a sleeping bag. I think he paid like $150 a month or something) so weird living arrangements don't faze me that much. There's an age past which that stops being OK, but Nate is young.

(But I would have a lot of questions, like "Where did you shower and go to the bathroom?")

Early on I said they were in two different places with the difference in age.  Maybe this is an example?  She has a 40 year old head on her shoulders.

[humbleopinion]

Anthony may do the gentlemanly deed and not dump Ashley at the Decision Show but they will not be married for long after.

Anthony doesn't seem that enthralled with his wife after ONLY one month, the bloom is definitely off the rose.

Natalia Petta, Sammy Petta, Mikey Petta will be raised a single mom.

[Empress1]

3 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Early on I said they were in two different places with the difference in age.  Maybe this is an example?  She has a 40 year old head on her shoulders.

I think they definitely are, as are Danielle and Cody.* The nature of Sheila's work means she has to be very detail-oriented and have her head on straight, and I think she's just that sort of person. Nate just seems very young. When he saw her apartment, he commented on how everything matched - he's still in the phase where he's getting castoff furniture from family, probably (as are most 25-year-olds - my first couch came from my grandparents' basement). Like, of course he wants to be in the club with his boys - he's 25. I think both he and Cody should have waited at least three years before they tried this.

*I have a friend who married his wife when he was 26 and she was ... I forget, maybe 32. This was 10 years ago and they're still married and have a son. But he was a very mature 26-year-old - even looking at him, people thought he was 35. (He looks younger now than he did then because he took up running and got himself in shape.)

[Snarklepuss]

6 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

The moment of fingernails raking the chalkboard from last night's episode...

Cody: Tonight is Danielle's and I's one month anniversary...

Baby Jesus help me....

LOL I was thinking of you when I heard him say that!  I'd think it was just specific to him, but on "MAFS Second Chances" this week David used that wording to refer to his relationships with Isabella and Tara.  Did an entire generation get absolutely NO education in basic grammar???  It's killin' me!

[humbleopinion]

When Cody told Danielle... "you did good" I blinked but let it go...but when he said...Danielle"s and I's ...I flipped a table...

Dumbing down of a generation....

[Evil Queen]

6 hours ago, Braveshoppr said:

Yes, I agree. She well knew what was expected of her , they all do. You can't cherry pick, like taking the free dinner and bed and breakfast, then turn around and have a contest with the producers.  I understand she wanted to reserve her and Nate's issues for alone times, but the issues were then, at that moment, when the camera was there.  As it was, she created a scene anyway, one that made her appear extremely selfish, imo.

2 hours ago, Empress1 said:

I also didn't really get why Sheila was mad at Nate looking at living in a garage for $200 a month. What's the big deal? It's just him, he was trying to save money, and he's young enough that that would be a funny and not-really-that-weird story when he's older. I didn't get why she was so mad.

I think the issue wasn't hat he was going to live like that but more about what got him to the point of why he was thinking about it. It starts to make her wonder how he is at the time with his money. Which like I said before, he wanted to jump on the high rent house because of how it looked. Whether or not that was the producers telling him to is another debate there but I do think she has a good reason to question it. I am sure it wasn't just all casually started either. And with the fight that seem to start when they got out of the car....I will bet it wasn't because of him but the producers butting in while in the care with them. I think they probably said there pieces the night before and were done but the producer brought it up in the car or before getting in the car or at some point during this time frame....that was it. I think it wasn't selfish at all but that she is fed up with the producers butting into things and not letting things play out "normally". Its been building and building for her and she probably has tried to just let it go but there is that moment when something snaps and that is it. So she unleashed. I don't blame her. Its beyond obviously the crap they pull and how much they interfere. I am sick of seeing it myself. Hell even Sheila said in Unfiltered some thing along the lines of if they just left them alone and let things play out as they should they would still have their drama because she is drama and she laughed. Which this is the thing, if they let things play out more naturally there would be drama still. Wouldn't be the crap these idiot producers want but natural drama couples can end up with and more so when they are trying to learn about each other. 

[JAndy]

2 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

Anthony may do the gentlemanly deed and not dump Ashley at the Decision Show but they will not be married for long after.

Anthony doesn't seem that enthralled with his wife after ONLY one month, the bloom is definitely off the rose.

Natalia Petta, Sammy Petta, Mikey Petta will be raised a single mom.

Eh I don't really see that. He seems into her and they seem to be in good terms during the unfiltered episodes. 

I tend to think that he's pretty even tempered. My husband is that way too, and while it may seem like he's relaxed and not into something, he actually is.

I think they are sweet and both want kids. 

[humbleopinion]

We will see...am rooting for those 2 crazy kids and their fish and snail kids..but after the cameras are gone and the next apartment lease is up and it is time to start making babies...  wonder if they still want to take the next step to parenthood.

[Lopethina]

Sheila was irritated that Nate *couldn't just admit* that he considered the garage life for financial reasons -- not that he'd had debt.  I see it as an extension of the ping pong scene.  He just cannot handle any ding to his "reputation," whether it be as a ping pong champion or a financially successful guy.  That can get exasperating.  But Sheila did ruin a nice dinner out and should've dropped it.

[humbleopinion]

Purely guessing...maybe she was referring  about his clubbing social life and the $$$$ it takes to be "in the club" multiple times a week as well as spending on wardrobe and a nice car...

Who knows with Sheila?...she's mercurial...

[Madding crowd]

We seem to be missing a lot as to the arguments between Sheila and Nate. Based on what we saw, I just wanted to say GIve the guy a break Sheila! Chicago is expensive, he is young and was just starting out, he was probably helping his brother with school supplies, lunches etc. I really wonder if Sheila requested a man who was her age or older and who made more money than she does. It is a problem for a lot of women. I still think Nate seems like a great guy. I like Sheila too but wish she would calm down sometimes. Ashley and Anthony are also a good couple-I guess it is editing showing her melting down over bags. I hope they make it.

Daniella and Cody are awful and I can barely watch them on the screen. I do wonder what the bad news was and why Cody couldn't just tell Danielle. They don't seem to get out as much as the other couples do and they both seem pretty boring. 

[Jellybeans]

Sheila would give me an ulcer.

[Braveshoppr]

From the beginning, it appears she wanted to subjugate Nate, not that she's aware of it, it's just the way she deals with her human race. It's her way or not at all. She had to have her way in choosing which side of the bed she slept on, although both wanted that side. The first video of her wearing her ring - she stuck it out as if to show she conquered another challenge in her life, not saying anything about Nate unless she referred to him as 'her husband', almost like a Raggedy Andy doll sitting in the corner,pointing to him, he's mine, I own him.

I feel for Nate, actually, I think his intentions are good, but he is way in over his head. He wants and expects to be the man, but he is going to have to fight a powerful force - She will have it her way or no way.  He will become another Milquetoast  husband which will eventually make him ill, or he will commit a violent outburst. She is just warming up now. 

This may be why she especially doesn't want the outbursts to be filmed. She learned in episode (whatever) when she was having a fit and leaving the table that her dark moods will turn on her and paint a picture she doesn't like and does not want to acknowledge.

Of course, she might realize she needs help, and commit to a counselor to help their marriage and her need to be the boss all the time.  Jmo.

1 hour ago, Jellybeans said:

Sheila would give me an ulcer.

[humbleopinion]

That is how Sheila gets her way with her family...she throws a big hissy fit  and gets harsh until they back down.

N8 will have to learn to stand down or pick his battles with his queen.

They may decide to stay together through the Decision Show but how much longer past that...depends if they can work through all the problems Sheila won't allow cameras to film now.

Those include...

Money-his debt, his club spending, his ability to provide a financially secure future

Trust-Jealousy is not pretty

Family-Mother Duhon will be a thorn in Sheila's side until she is properly honored and convinced of the sincerity of the marriage.

            Tyrique is a positive...they both connect to him

M@FS should provide a year of marriage counseling with REAL counselors to the couples or singles so they can learn/decompress from their experience.

[gonecrackers]

There's a lot I liked about Sheila, but I'm rethinking due to her attitude. She's very 'my way or the highway', & also has this way about her if she's upset/angry that is self righteous & condescending. The look on her face when she continually repeats that she's 'not going to do this' with him is downright disturbing; flash back to the honeymoon. Nate looked like he's wondering what he should do with this crazy person.

I doubt she'd want to be spoken to that way by her husband, & Nate shouldn't have to be spoken to that way by his wife, especially on TV. I doubt her crazy is winning any points with Mother Duhon either, & I wouldn't blame her for continuing to be wary of Sheila after seeing all this played out on TV.

[Guest]

15 hours ago, Snarklepuss said:

 Did an entire generation get absolutely NO education in basic grammar???  It's killin' me!

It's killing I, too!

[ChristmasJones]

I wonder if some of Nate's apparent continued attraction to Sheila is that she is a bit like his mother - extremely strong-willed and rigid. Its probably a subconscious thing - the dynamic gets imprinted in childhood and then the person seeks out similar partners as an adult without being aware of it.  But with this crazy show, who knows what the hell is going on...

Edited July 1, 2017 by ChristmasJones

[humbleopinion]

Dr. Freud..Paging Doctor Freud...Doctor ...Sigmund... Freud...Code Mommy Syndrome...

[Jellybeans]

Sheila scares me.  She reminds me of a horrid housemother I had at the deaf school.  Shut up, stand up straight, no music, no books, no laughing, no flushing toilets in the night (even if it's full of crap) and no orgasms.  (sorry, couldn't resist that one)

[gonecrackers]

LOL Jellybeans, but yeah really, it's no wonder she hasn't had one yet - her own body is probably intimidated by her.

[Braveshoppr]

4 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

That is how Sheila gets her way with her family...she throws a big hissy fit  and gets harsh until they back down.

N8 will have to learn to stand down or pick his battles with his queen.

They may decide to stay together through the Decision Show but how much longer past that...depends if they can work through all the problems Sheila won't allow cameras to film now.

Those include...

Money-his debt, his club spending, his ability to provide a financially secure future

Trust-Jealousy is not pretty

Family-Mother Duhon will be a thorn in Sheila's side until she is properly honored and convinced of the sincerity of the marriage.

            Tyrique is a positive...they both connect to him

M@FS should provide a year of marriage counseling with REAL counselors to the couples or singles so they can learn/decompress from their experience.

Great post. -Agreeing with everything you wrote. Nate at this point is still young of mind and not at all equipped for the harridan Sheila may likely become. Talk about Desert Storm -just wait until her wrath is vented and it's aimed squarely at Nate. Although she is cute enough, well-dressed and smart, it's no wonder she's not already hooked up. Men will run to get away. She admitted as much in an early episode with Nate when she brought out the tears-something about 'she has been trying to convince ...(men) (for years)'  I don't recall her words but they were very telling about her relations with men.  Imo she is not good marriage material at all-and why they allowed her to take one of the coveted spaces can only be because they were placing drama over a basic and good foundation.

[Racj82]

On 6/30/2017 at 5:15 PM, LennieBriscoe said:

Not so with Tivo, Racj82. I always watch MAFS the next day, and have never seen "Unfiltered."  This episode ends with Sheila's saying, "I'm done." Then "Next time,....." previews.

Anyway, so yes, humbleopinion, even Ashley. I think she and we might be surprised if Anthony eventually "tells all" as he opts for divorce. 

 

It may be something xfinity is doing. They also seem to be recording like a minute of the next show. I guess so you don't miss a overrun. 

I was wondering why the episode was ending like 16 minutes early according to the dvr. This was why. I also get separate segments I always skip. It's smart on their part. I would have skipped it otherwise.

 

I almost don't like the layers being peeled back. Never been a fan of seeing how the sausage is made. I guess with this show, some filling in the gaps is needed though.

[Evil Queen]

4 hours ago, Racj82 said:

 

It may be something xfinity is doing. They also seem to be recording like a minute of the next show. I guess so you don't miss a overrun. 

I was wondering why the episode was ending like 16 minutes early according to the dvr. This was why. I also get separate segments I always skip. It's smart on their part. I would have skipped it otherwise.

 

I almost don't like the layers being peeled back. Never been a fan of seeing how the sausage is made. I guess with this show, some filling in the gaps is needed though.

I have Time Warner Spectrum and I noticed it picks up anything listed as MAFS so I get the snippet from the season 1 couples still together and then the Unfiltered before MAFS. The one after it is just part of it now from what I have seen but I only dvr it if needed but kept it on there just in case. The Unfiltered on before the episode is the one from the week before. I get some may not want to see these shows but it seems this season it does fill in parts that were bs during the show with how it was edited. I didn't watch Unfiltered last season but sit threw it now since I do watch MAFS Second Chances too. The one snippet from the season 1 couples I delete as I have no desire to see that. With my cable if I want it to overrun I have to set my dvr to do so but I always do at least 5 mins just in case. 

[Gem 10]

On June 30, 2017 at 5:15 PM, LennieBriscoe said:

Not so with Tivo, Racj82. I always watch MAFS the next day, and have never seen "Unfiltered."  This episode ends with Sheila's saying, "I'm done." Then "Next time,....." previews.

Anyway, so yes, humbleopinion, even Ashley. I think she and we might be surprised if Anthony eventually "tells all" as he opts for divorce. 

You may be right.  Although Anthony thinks Ashley is cute and quirky, her anxiety of having a baby yesterday seems like it's getting to him.  Unless, it's all producer driven.  

[humbleopinion]

The M@FS editing with the dull machete makes it look like Ashley frames ALL their time together dropping reminders about having a baby...soon...sooner...now.

A month in, Anthony likes Ashley more than a month's worth (referencing Nick's method of measuring of feelings from last season) but he isn't fessing up to more than that...definitely not starting a family level yet.

Those 7 minutes M@FS featurettes with the 2 couples from season one are insufferable.

I'd rather see the commercial for the Hair Extension Baby Talking Gal 7 times in a row than those stupid segments.

  One showed Courtney and Jason changing a light bulb, another Jason working out.

The others had Jamie Odious and Moley Doug... lacking of anything interesting but maximum nothingness to irritate.

[Evil Queen]

59 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

You may be right.  Although Anthony thinks Ashley is cute and quirky, her anxiety of having a baby yesterday seems like it's getting to him.  Unless, it's all producer driven.  

From what has been said and it might have been in Unfiltered, that they have talked about it and her wanting to have a baby like yesterday is really the producers making it seem that way. He had said he had thought that himself but that once they talked it was that she was saying in a year start trying. Which he was like ok that is different and seemed to be on board with that. I think what we are seeing is the producers/edit team twisting things around to look like she wants one right now. They seem to be on the same page with this from how it sounds. 

[Jellybeans]

I thought the Unfiltered segment of Doug putting diapers on squashes was kinda funny!

Edited July 2, 2017 by Jellybeans
segment is not spelled segmeg

[ethalfrida]

I think Sheil is sincere when she says how much she likes Nate.

Not that I don't go, "what is she fussing about now?" when she is protesting something. But overall, I still think they are a good match.

[27bored]

Danielle is a trick ass bitch. You're going to set up this romantic evening by the fire and bring out some s'mores? That bullshit is probably why your ex stayed cheating on you. I maintain that I don't think it's that Danielle isn't into Cody. She thinks she's making him take her seriously by withholding sex, but I think he's more or less checking out at this point, as would many guys. Seriously. Has anyone heard Danielle articulate one semi-coherent reason why her and Cody haven't had sex yet? Like I've said before, it would be cool if she just wasn't feeling it. But she's trying to turn him into Prince Charming while she's just the Chick Across The Street. She said Cody was more confident in the gym, and I think that might be playing into it somewhat. Cody might need to disengage a bit from Danielle. Stop with the hand holding and lovey-dovey eyes and talking about sex. Start treating her like the lukewarm friend she's making you out to be. Either she'll feel desperate because she isn't the apple of his eye, or at the very least he won't look and feel like a sucker for caring so much about her not sleeping with him. And, I hope he doesn't confide in her. All she's going to do is judge you, Cody. Don't do it.

Ashley and Andrew are a little annoying, but that fight over cornhole was corny. And it did look fake. I do think Ashley is tightly wound, despite the editing she gets, but that was stupid.

Sheila and Nate are getting more and more annoying. Sheila is self-conscious about looking a certain kind of way on camera, but I don't think the producers are trying to instigate anything. I think she does petty shit when she's mad in front of the cameras, and Nate probably tried to check her, and she was like, she wasn't going to have that kind of discussion on camera. OK, well, do a better job of hiding it then because it's clear you got out of a car and walked away and when Nate was trying to talk to you, you were ignoring him while you were on your phone. Nate was probably being "real" and Sheila was being fake and she wanted to wait until the cameras were off to have their discussion. But obviously she was on one because why not have it with the cameras on? Unless you were the one starting shit and don't want to look bad, I don't see why it would be an issue to have a disagreement on the cameras. We care, but we don't care. Y'all are adults. Arguments happen. Life goes on.

[Jellybeans]

Yes, Sheila getting out of the car and walking away is not hiding it from the cameras, it is putting the spotlight on you!!!  

[gonecrackers]

And who was Sheila talking to on her phone?  She's ignoring Nate, walking away, & it's all being filmed - what better time to chit chat on the phone?  So rude & weird, & yes, attention getting.

[spunky]

Something is going on with Nate and Sheila behind the scenes. I don't think Sheila has forgiven him, for saying he no longer wants to be married off camera on their honeymoon. It also appears that Nate can't take a hint. I do agree with Sheila, couples should not have arguments in the streets. Nate comes across as the male version of his mother.

Poor Cody had more chemistry with the smores than with Danielle. She needs to stop her crap, about how she thinks a man should be.

[humbleopinion]

Sheila...you are not on Big Brother...stop acting like there are 100 cameras on you.

You have one crew following you.

Stop over reacting and cut out the hissy fits if you don't want to be filmed as a emotionally unstable woman.

Really can do without their extreme close up make out sessions.

In contrast, a month into his marriage and Cody still kisses like a middle schooler.

That smacking would be enough to turn most grown women off... his lack of finesse and expertise.

[seacliffsal]

Although I do agree that the producers try to get drama out of the participants, I do not believe that they are responsible for the Sheila and Nate arguments.  Sheila doesn't like something, berates Nate about it and then gets upset if her wants to explain himself or discuss the issue.  She's the one who blows up at him-production can't fake that.  She sees herself as always right and always a victim.  That perspective is rigid and it is impossible to interact or compromise with someone like that.  Even the way she yells at production indicates her unwillingness to do or say anything she does not want to do or say.  They all know that they will be constantly filmed.  Most people would realize they can not control production, but in Sheila's world she gets what she wants.  I really feel sorry for Nate who seems to be trying to do his best with her.  They really remind me of Sam and Neil from last season.

[MsPH]

1 hour ago, seacliffsal said:

Although I do agree that the producers try to get drama out of the participants, I do not believe that they are responsible for the Sheila and Nate arguments.  Sheila doesn't like something, berates Nate about it and then gets upset if her wants to explain himself or discuss the issue.  She's the one who blows up at him-production can't fake that.  She sees herself as always right and always a victim.  That perspective is rigid and it is impossible to interact or compromise with someone like that.  Even the way she yells at production indicates her unwillingness to do or say anything she does not want to do or say.  They all know that they will be constantly filmed.  Most people would realize they can not control production, but in Sheila's world she gets what she wants.  I really feel sorry for Nate who seems to be trying to do his best with her.  They really remind me of Sam and Neil from last season.

I agree. If you don't want to argue on camera then the smartest thing to do would be to act civil until you get some privacy, not storm off and ignore your husband completely while a camera crew is following you. She's the one always picking fights as well, apart from the Donnay thing. It's pretty idiotic to start an argument on camera and then refuse to talk things through while the cameras are there. I'm sure talking things through won't make you look any worse than starting an argument in the first place and being super rude and condescending to your husband. I'm starting to really think she just suffers from severe PMS, since the last time she was acting like this was about a month ago. She seemed more positive and patient in between. I just find it disturbing how she can talk to him with such complete lack of empathy especially in front of other people. I might get mad too sometimes when I'm PMS'ing, but I still manage to act normal around innocent bystanders. Sheila just turns into a self-absorbed teenager who gives no f*cks. It's bizarre. A 31-year-old should have more self-control. I was feeling sorry for Sheila with the mother-in-law from hell, but maybe she deserves her. 

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27 minutes ago, MsPH said:

I was feeling sorry for Sheila with the mother-in-law from hell, but maybe she deserves her. 

What incredible karma, eh? It would be the perfect match made in hell, but (I truly hope, for Nate's sake) he ends the marriage.  Living with her and her tantrum moods and her need to be the man (and the horrible way she demeans him) will eventually make him a withered and ill man. With problems as deep-seated as Sheila's, it would take years of therapy, because this didn't start with Nate, it's been a way of life for her.  As negative as she has been with her earlier snits, not once did we hear her apologize to Nate - rather she appeared quite satisfied with herself. Maybe she apologized, but I doubt it.  When the couples were given the wedding albums (weren't they great pictures!)  the women all opened and held the albums. Sheila was the only one who placed the album in her lap only. The other two 'shared' the album. 

[Lusterleaf]

Ashley comes off as very insecure. Especially with the whole quitting the bag game. Danielle and Cody are so boring to watch. I think Danielle is like Ashley from the other season, she's not into who she was matched up with and I think at this point she is just waiting for the weeks of this experiment to end. I feel bad for Nate actually trying to have a conversation with Sheila about yet another thing she's ticked off about and then she goes on her phone, wtf? 

I think in the end Ashley/Anthony and Nate/Sheila will stay together but I don't see their marriages lasting very long.

BTW a few people mentioned "Unfiltered", I always delete it unwatched off my DVR. I can't stand Jamie Otis.

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On 7/2/2017 at 1:54 PM, Evil Queen said:

From what has been said and it might have been in Unfiltered, that they have talked about it and her wanting to have a baby like yesterday is really the producers making it seem that way. He had said he had thought that himself but that once they talked it was that she was saying in a year start trying. Which he was like ok that is different and seemed to be on board with that. I think what we are seeing is the producers/edit team twisting things around to look like she wants one right now. They seem to be on the same page with this from how it sounds. 

Even waiting a year seems really quick. They met in such unusual circumstances that a year still does not seem like enough time. Didn't the two couples from last year divorce after being together for a year? Ashley needs to calm down. If she just wanted a child there are many options now. She didn't need to come on some crappy reality show with a horrible track record to do so. 

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I found it odd that Sheila was so adamant that Nate come clean about his financial situation on national television,  but behaved the way she did with him and the producer later in the episode. 

I basically believed Nate's explaination of being cheap vs in dire financial straits. Maybe it's because at least two people came to mind whom I personally know to be that way. But, even if he was fudging the explanation, why wouldn't Sheila understand that he might not want to go more into this subject in camera? She was like a dog with a bone and it showed a lack of empathy. In a marriage, you need to extend grace to your partner and become very clear about which fights are worth having.

Also, she picked the right show because a different production company would have had a 'come to Jesus with her about what she is contractually obligated to provide in exchange for this marriage and the financial penalties for not holding up her end of the bargain. 

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16 minutes ago, red12 said:

I basically believed Nate's explaination of being cheap vs in dire financial straits. Maybe it's because at least two people came to mind whom I personally know to be that way.

For me it's the equivalent of Cody moving back in with his parents to help accommodate for the opening of his business. Since Nate doesn't have a parent he can move in with nearby, the friend's garage for two-hundy/month was his "Move Back Home To Save Money" option.

I think Sheila is just self-sabotaging a good thing at this point. Luckily for her, I don't think NATHAN (why does she insist on calling him by his full first name when everyone else is fine with N8?)  is the type of fella who'll let her off his hook that easily.

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Instead of praising N8 for his money saving idea of living in a garage she got mad that he was willing to do so to afford his clubbing lifestyle.

His reasons for cutting back on rent wasn't for frugality or saving for a rainy day...it was so he could still be a player at the club multiple times a week, have nice clothes and drive a nice car.

The reason N8 didn't push back was that she was right...but if the shoe or high heel was on the other foot she would be enraged he would criticize her personal finances.

Totally producer driven.

[Drogo]

25 minutes ago, humbleopinion said:

Instead of praising N8 for his money saving idea of living in a garage she got mad that he was willing to do so to afford his clubbing lifestyle.

His reasons for cutting back on rent wasn't for frugality or saving for a rainy day...it was so he could still be a player at the club multiple times a week, have nice clothes and drive a nice car.

I thought he said it was so he could get out of his credit card debt more quickly.