S07.E20: Reunion Part 2

[chewycandy]

4 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

No, Erika needs to improve her listening skills. She has a problem in hearing only part of a conversation, twisting what she does hear into something else entirely and ignoring the rest. Then add in her 2 side kicks that love to feed her misinformation about the others and you have a recipe for disaster. IMO, Erika assumed Dorit had bad intentions toward her because that is exactly how Erika would think had someone accidentally exposed their lady bits to Tom.

You do not know exactly how Erika would think.

Of course she assumed Dorit had bad intentions--she felt Dorit was shaming her. I guess you can also assume Dorit thought Erika  had bad intentions by not sitting like a lady should. 

[HunterHunted]

1 hour ago, escape said:

VPR and RHOBH are not first run throughout the year like Y&R.   I would never compared Judge Judy (who has a law degree) to any of the no-talents, drunken dummies on VPR.

Anyone who aspires a career in acting would choose a network scripted show over a cable reality show.

Anyone working in TV would want to win the ultimate prize from the industry - The Emmy award.

And congrats to Eileen for making the recent People's Most Beautiful List. 

A JD is indicative of nothing other than that a person has completed a course of schooling. Phaedra Parks has a JD and is driving most of the foolishness on Atlanta now. We've got some MDs and a DDS on Married to Medicine. Paul Nasif and Terry Dubrow are MDs and Terry is one of the thirstiest people to ever be featured on a housewife show. Hell, I have a JD. There's nothing about my degree that guarantees that I'm not a no-talent drunken dumbass. I'm not. No one would ever accuse have me of having no-talent.

I think people who aspire to an acting career would prefer to be on a scripted show, but if your career is stagnating I can see why you might join one of these shows. Heather Dubrow hoped it would restart her career. It didn't. It helped launch Nene's. It helped launch Miss Lawrence's too. Daytime Emmy award nominated (for Y&R) Princeton graduate, Vail Bloom, was on Vanderpump Rules for a season as was Julliard graduate, Laura Leigh.

None of this is to minimize Eileen's accomplishments. She's had a long successful career, but some people have made peace with their dreams vs reality. Bethenny started out wanting to be an actress. She became famous for reality tv and made her fortune selling low-cal cocktails. LVP started as actress, but she's essentially been out of the biz for more 20 years. She became famous and a name because of this show. I think LVP has made her peace with her acting career aspirations.

Neither is better, worse, greater, or lesser. If it gets the person to the place they want to be, it's fine whether it's an Emmy nomination or a successful clothing line or premixed cocktails.

[AndySmith]

8 hours ago, Easyspreestep said:

Ericka also dealt with the situation right away.  When Dorit gave her the underwear she told her to stop.  Ericka did not bring this back up again until HK.  It was because Dorit wanted to know why Ericka has been distant towards her.  Ericka let it go but would not become friendly with Dorit.  I see nothing wrong with that and I see nothing wrong with explaining to Dorit why she would not be close to her.  Ericka actually didn't hold on to it and we saw proof of this all season, she complimented Dorit, showed up to her events and had mulitple conversations with her.  This is why Dorit was shocked at Ericka reason for not wanting to get close to her, she didn't realize that over it did not mean they would be friends.  Over it for Ericka meant cordial, and over it for Dorit meant friends.  

Exactly.

7 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Well, at least at his age, Nana will make him laugh all the time!

Laughing at someone vs laughing with them...

6 hours ago, Martinigirl said:

Is that Kim in the red wig?

If only Eden knew...maybe she and Kim could have bonded over that...

2 hours ago, Kallee said:

She's NOT smart or quick enough to say that - NOT surprising. Probably didn't graduate from high school.

Not sure if she did or didn't graduate from high school so who knows lololol

[zoeysmom]

7 hours ago, WireWrap said:

No, Erika needs to improve her listening skills. She has a problem in hearing only part of a conversation, twisting what she does hear into something else entirely and ignoring the rest. Then add in her 2 side kicks that love to feed her misinformation about the others and you have a recipe for disaster. IMO, Erika assumed Dorit had bad intentions toward her because that is exactly how Erika would think had someone accidentally exposed their lady bits to Tom.

What Erika display both in Hong Kong and during the PK portion of the Reunion is she is only thinking about how to wrestle away the conversation.  It was dizzying listening to her shut down Andy with the, "don't talk about it" and then interjecting profanities at the Kemsleys.  Her final lecture to them about starting over and going slow is just not realistic.  There are eighteen 35 minutes episodes with six women.  I am using 35 minutes because by the time they bookend scenes, do the what happened at the beginning and scenes for what is coming up they have cut into the 43 minute airing time significantly.  There just isn't time to warm up the cast to Erika's liking.  She had a couple of scenes with Kyle that were outside her comfort zone but they were essentially about her upbringing, cue upcoming mom scenes.  It might be good for them to cut out the Erika Glam Squad scenes so she is forced to actually have conversations with the cast.   Erika's best scenes were in Mexico where she seemed to be having fun and for the first part away from Eileen and Rinna.  Once they arrived she was still pretty decent and interested in addressing the situation at hand. 

Erika cannot grasp the fact that she has blurred the lines between Erika Jayne and Erika Girardi.  She cut LVP off when she was giving her view of the situation.  LVP's opinion, albeit not to Erika's liking, is just as valid as Erika's.  Erika had no problem judging LVP calling her a sniper from the side without any significant interaction with her.  Aren't the others' opinions just as valid when they are presented an Erika Jayne persona and a very snide Erika Girardi.  It is a marker as to what one will do for fame/money. 

Erika's opinion of Dorit's input being boring was certainly her opinion but at least Dorit listens and does a fine job of defending her position without doing some fake over the top Rinnaesque apology.    

[Yours Truly]

Kim returned a bear and hurt Lisa's feelings.

Considering that everything else revolved around accusations or saying things that created an outside ripple effect and were more vicious I'd say Kim returning the bear and sharing how she felt about the insincerity of what was supposed to be a friendly gesture is perfectly within someone's right to do. Yes, even on camera. At least she was addressing her feelings about the matter clearly and to the point and didn't start wildly throwing low blows and randomly hurtful comments around like Rinna's wig is tilted and she should be honest about her bald head or some stupidness that usually goes on on these shows.

I'm actually happier about that exchange because it was about expressing something that didn't sit well with another cast member and even though it was boo hoo so hurtful it was actually pretty straight forward and not in the least surprising considering it's between two women who really don't care much for each other.  This is why no one really resolves conflicts this way because it doesn't really leave room for interpretation or wiggle room or deflection, unless of course there's a bunny involved. Cause now people are going on and on about a stupid bunny which is unfortunate cause I thought they were finally getting somewhere with all the explaining and getting to the crux of it.

For what it's worth Kim came across pretty well spoken and clear about a lot of the problems she has with Rinna and was really pin pointing a lot of the bullshit but now everyone is all concerned about her returning a stupid bunny on camera and how terribly hurtful that act was.

OH. MY. GOD.

Nothing can ever stay on topic.

Edited April 25, 2017 by Yours Truly

[zoeysmom]

16 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

Kim returned a bear and hurt Lisa's feelings.

Considering that everything else revolved around accusations or saying things that created an outside ripple effect and were more vicious I'd say Kim returning the bear and sharing how she felt about the insincerity of what was supposed to be a friendly gesture is perfectly within someone's right to do. Yes, even on camera. At least she was addressing her feelings about the matter clearly and to the point and didn't start wildly throwing low blows and randomly hurtful comments around like Rinna's wig is titled and she should be honest about her bald head or some stupidness that usually goes on on these shows.

I'm actually happier about that exchange because it was about expressing something that didn't sit well with another cast member and even though it was boo hoo so hurtful it was actually pretty straight forward and not in the least surprising considering it's between two women who really don't care much for each other.  This is why no one really resolves conflicts this way because it doesn't really leave room for interpretation. Well now people are going on and on about a stupid bunny which is unfortunate cause I thought they were finally getting somewhere with all the explaining and getting to the crux of it.

For what it's worth Kim came across pretty well spoken and clear about a lot of the problems she has with Rinna and was really pin pointing a lot of the bullshit but now everyone is all concerned about her returning a stupid bunny on camera and how terribly hurtful that act was.

OH. MY. GOD.

Nothing can ever stay on topic.

Rinna as usual, took the opportunity to ham it up.  Rinna hates Kim with every fiber of her being.  Rinna acted as if she gave Kim a live bunny and Kim returned it as hasenpfeffer.  It was a weird gesture on Kim's part but no weirder than denying she said something about Kim and Kyle and then giving Kim the stuffed toy.  Rinna is a very sick individual who takes things so far beyond the pale.  She squeezed a tear out and then went off stage and was quite normal.  Rinna can't stand the fact that time after time Kim is the one to get under her skin and calls Rinna on her nonsense.

[Diane Mars]

57 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

Kim returned a bear and hurt Lisa's feelings.

Considering that everything else revolved around accusations or saying things that created an outside ripple effect and were more vicious I'd say Kim returning the bear and sharing how she felt about the insincerity of what was supposed to be a friendly gesture is perfectly within someone's right to do. Yes, even on camera. At least she was addressing her feelings about the matter clearly and to the point and didn't start wildly throwing low blows and randomly hurtful comments around like Rinna's wig is tilted and she should be honest about her bald head or some stupidness that usually goes on on these shows

Yes. HER feelings ! As always ! It's always "ME", "MY Feelings", "MY sobiriety", but she gives zero fuck to OTHER PEOPLE'S feeilngs.... But, hey, who cares ? Because she's the amazing and talented Kim Richards (note to Kim : it's was a loooong time ago, you're not any of that anymore), so HER feelings are the only ones to consider.

EDIT before posting : nothing against you :)

Edited April 25, 2017 by Diane Mars

[Juliegirlj]

I still believe Rinna was really upset on stage, but not because Kim returned that stupid bunny. She was humiliated because Andy and the producers were obviously in on it, as were Kim and likely Kyle. She was butt hurt that no one clued her in so she could be ready. 

Rinna does seem emotionally unstable. When faced with real hurt and anger by Eden, Rinna's inappropriate laughing and leaning up against Eileen ( trying to act like they ALL were laughing) shows that. When she was cornered for her crap in Mexico she wept and said she needed her family and wanted to go home...

[Giselle]

Erica has never realized that she wasn't the only one hurt here. Dorit was obviously hurt. It botherd her on some level that her husband was accidentally flashed. She chose to deal with it with a joke.

Not once after Erica was made aware of her flashing everybody did she apologize. An " I'm so sorry and embarrassed, it was an accident. I didn't realize that had happened till now." Would have gone along way.

Erica never accepts personal responsibility. Somebody else or circumstances are always to blame.

[Yours Truly]

4 minutes ago, Diane Mars said:

Yes. HER feelings ! As always ! It's always "ME", "MY Feelings", "MY sobiriety", but she gives zero fuck to OTHER PEOPLE'S feeilngs.... But, hey, who cares ? Because she's the amazing and talented Kim Richards (note to Kim : it's was a loooong time ago, you're not any of that anymore), so HER feelings are the only ones to consider.

EDIT before posting : nothing against you :)

I don't understand what's so wrong about Kim addressing the issue that both these women have.

Every time these women have an exchange people seem to expect Kim to fall all over herself trying to establish some good will with Rinna. Fall down on her knees and be contrite. I really don't get that. Especially not now after everything Rinna has done that has been way off the charts.

At this point that relationship is damaged, damaged, damaged and not all because of Kim.

For once I would love a situation to be what it is and not something with a mile long strip of toilet paper attached to its shoe that includes every Kim offense known to man. Kim is addressing Rinna and their issues and in the case of Rinna, Kim has every right to express yes, HER feelings. Rinna's bounced around like a lunatic hurling nasty barbs with no rhyme or reason and Kim is supposed to hold back??? Why?

Besides The scary limo ride (oooooo, such as heinous act towards Rinna can't believe she got out alive) , lets talk about the husband (that shit was so fucking lame and tame and Kim didn't even claim shit big whoop) , that very uncomfortable game night (where she was mostly just obnoxiously intoxicated) ....... um what else did Kim lobby at Rinna? Like in all honesty, if you look back, how many times has Kim and Rinna had exchanges where Kim deliberately directed any anger towards Rinna randomly and for no reason?

No, trying to twist away from uncomfortable conversations started by the others about her addiction doesn't count as Kim having a deliberately aggressive or mean spirited exchange.

I think people like to lump all of her conflicts into one. We see Kim have a confrontation and express her feelings with one and think of all the other things that have gone on with Kim but what's going on in the exchange with Rinna is about what has gone on between HER and RINNA. And Rinna's been wrong, wrong, terribly wrong on numerous occasions pertaining to Kim. Why shouldn't Kim express that?

It's always disturbing to me how there's this blanket of silence people want to put on Kim cause she's had so many issues but I don't think she's not supposed to have a voice cause of her poor decisions in the past. Rinna's been vile to her and has attacked her as well as hurt her. I don't agree with taking away Kim's ability to defend herself or express herself just because she has bad qualities or a tainted history of offenses.

[Mindthinkr]

@Yours Truly That was a very thoughtful post. Balancing. 

[Diane Mars]

1 hour ago, Yours Truly said:

I don't understand what's so wrong about Kim addressing the issue that both these women have...

Her timing ? The fact that she thought about it for weeks ? That she planned everything in order to really hurt ?

That's why I'll NEVER be on Kim's side. She's selfish, rude, mean -sober or not- and the "bunny action" proved this to me.

YMMV :)

[zoeysmom]

2 hours ago, Diane Mars said:

Yes. HER feelings ! As always ! It's always "ME", "MY Feelings", "MY sobiriety", but she gives zero fuck to OTHER PEOPLE'S feeilngs.... But, hey, who cares ? Because she's the amazing and talented Kim Richards (note to Kim : it's was a loooong time ago, you're not any of that anymore), so HER feelings are the only ones to consider.

EDIT before posting : nothing against you :)

Well I do think Kim has expressed that Rinna has hurt Yolanda, Brandi and LVP and of course hers are always the most hurt ("What about my feelings?", "What about what she said about me?").  Kim does not like it when others get picked on and it is a battle she should not engage in because in spite of a noble entry into the fray she does always make it about her.  I don't think she is lying when she claims she intervened when she saw Eileen and Rinna having a go at Dorit on Game Night.  

[Yours Truly]

nm

Edited April 25, 2017 by Yours Truly

[zoeysmom]

29 minutes ago, Diane Mars said:

Her timing ? The fact that she thought about it for weeks ? That she planned everything in order to really hurt ?

That's why I'll NEVER be on Kim's side. She's selfish, rude, mean -sober or not- and the "bunny action" proved this to me.

YMMV :)

I think people give the bunny act way too much credence.  As evidenced by Andy laughing at the bunny when Rinna  left the stage to reload.* Making her way back in with some more barbs really didn't make it any more or less egregious.  I can't believe Rinna thought for one minute anyone would buy her crying act so she exited for dramatic effect.  It was just lame on both their parts, Kim for thinking it was important and Rinna for her fake reaction.

Kim is rude.

* New rule for RH walk offs-you walk off there should be an entire segment devoted to what an asshole you are-uncontested. 

[Yours Truly]

38 minutes ago, Diane Mars said:

Her timing ? The fact that she thought about it for weeks ? That she planned everything in order to really hurt ?

That's why I'll NEVER be on Kim's side. She's selfish, rude, mean -sober or not- and the "bunny action" proved this to me.

YMMV :)

So people are allowed to come for her but she can't retaliate is that it?

I mean a bunny being returned on camera wasn't exactly a horses head in Rinna's bed.

I guess there's just a huge chasm with what I think is harsh (Rinna's nasty threats and physically aggression and nasty low blows.)

and other mileage. (Bunny return)

Mileage really does vary it seems.. <shrug>

Edited April 25, 2017 by Yours Truly

[Giselle]

47 minutes ago, Diane Mars said:

Her timing ? The fact that she thought about it for weeks ? That she planned everything in order to really hurt ?

That's why I'll NEVER be on Kim's side. She's selfish, rude, mean -sober or not- and the "bunny action" proved this to me.

YMMV :)

I'm not on Kim's side nor Rinna's. They are both one and the same when it comes to vile behavior. How long was Rinna planning on getting back back at Dorit in Hong Kong?Rinna's HK accusations and viscious questions hurt Dorit. She went for blood. 

So how is Kim a worse person? Any charge leveled at one should also be leveled at the other. Rinna owned up to putting drugs in her smoothies. Kim's an alcoholic. Both go off the deep end and treat other people horribly. The stick the knives deep enough and repetitively till blood is drawn. Lisa is just better adept at kissing ass with her meaningless apologies afterwards.

I was pro Rinna and anti Kim their first season together. Kim over many seasons showed us who she  was and is. These past two seasons we have seen who Rinna really is. They both come from the same low place.

Edited April 25, 2017 by Giselle
Last paragraph added.

[Yours Truly]

4 minutes ago, Giselle said:

I'm not on Kim's side nor Rinna's. They are both one and the same when it comes to vile behavior. How long was Rinna planning on getting back back at Dorit in Hong Kong?Rinna's HK accusations and viscious questions hurt Dorit. She went for blood. 

So how is Kim a worse person? Any charge leveled at one should also be leveled at the other. Rinna owned up to putting drugs in her smoothies. Kim's an alcoholic. Both go off the deep end and treat other people horribly. The stick the knives deep enough and repetitively till blood is drawn. Lisa is just better adept at kissing ass with her meaningless apologies afterwards.

Have we ever seen this level of sinister with Kim tho?

I mean don't get me wrong. I get that her behavior has been some of the most disturbing and distasteful but I never really saw her wielding knives like that. Jab and barbs sure and I guess cause there's been sooooooo many incidences it may seem like there's been blood drawn but actual knock down drag out?? Yelling matchings sure and stupid altercations and inappropriate behavior okay, but I really don't recall this truly sinister side people associate with her.

This was just a side thought.

I do agree with most of your post.

[jaync]

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It was her most memorable year for the DWTS routine. 

That was her most memorable year, and not the birth of her son, or when she met/married Tom? I probably shouldn't be surprised.

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I only wish there were more shots of Kyle and LVP's faces when Erika would go off on PK.  They looked pretty dismayed it what was shown.

Kyle (and Eileen) was also visibly dismayed when Erika was praising Rinna's attack against Dorit. Of course that dismay wasn't verbalized, lest one of the Erikas went into beasty meltdown mode again.

[Diane Mars]

To clarify my two previous posts, I was talking about Kim, and giving my opinion about Kim. Nobody else. (because, yes, I agree 100% they all have done and said nasty things)

To summarize : it's not because I haven't talked about the others that I don't think they have done shit too.

[VedaPierce]

22 hours ago, Lady of nod said:

Here's my humble take on grudges. If someone make a joke at my expense or makes an offhanded remark and I never get over it, to me that's holding a grudge. But if someone outright attacks me or makes slanderous comments about me or my family or screams in my face then I'm done! Forever! And I think that's self preservation rather than holding a grudge

Some of these HWs have been so abused by others, Bethenny Rhinna and Brandy come to mind, that I don't know how they just carry on like nothing has happened. Good on LVP for even filming with these harpies after Dubai.

Fab

[zoeysmom]

Bravo's take on the bunny:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/blogs/the-most-shocking-rhobh-reunion-cameo-yet

[Giselle]

34 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

Have we ever seen this level of sinister with Kim tho?

I mean don't get me wrong. I get that her behavior has been some of the most disturbing and distasteful but I never really saw her wielding knives like that. Jab and barbs sure and I guess cause there's been sooooooo many incidences it may seem like there's been blood drawn but actual knock down drag out?? Yelling matchings sure and stupid altercations and inappropriate behavior okay, but I really don't recall this truly sinister side people associate with her.

This was just a side thought.

I do agree with most of your post.

I think we have seen it in Kim if the stylist's relaying of events are true. Kim's dog attacked her and Kim refused to call 911 until the woman agreed to say it was a stray dog. That is evil. Sadly I am inclined to believe the stylist's accusations because we have seen the utter disregard for her niece and longtime friend when they were bitten by the same dog.

[Giselle]

16 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Bravo's take on the bunny:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/blogs/the-most-shocking-rhobh-reunion-cameo-yet

Bet that bunny ended up on the Hamlin BBQ  or in the trash the next day.

His theme song "No bunny knows the trouble I've seen. No bunny knows my sorrow."

Andy should give it a home in the clubhouse. >;->

Edited April 25, 2017 by Giselle

[VedaPierce]

15 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Yes, I'd love to hear any scoop that Lololol has (oh, sorry - I meant Kallee. Writing styles are similar and I got mixed up for a minute) regarding Erika and her education. 

So smart!

[WireWrap]

2 hours ago, Diane Mars said:

Her timing ? The fact that she thought about it for weeks ? That she planned everything in order to really hurt ?

That's why I'll NEVER be on Kim's side. She's selfish, rude, mean -sober or not- and the "bunny action" proved this to me.

YMMV :)

I think the "timing" had a lot to do with watching the episodes before the reunion was filmed. Kim was reminded of what Rinna said about her/Kyle, what she told others just before she gave Kim the bunny, Rinna's overall nasty behavior this season and Kim decided to return the bunny in the same manner it was given....on camera.

[VedaPierce]

13 hours ago, chewycandy said:

The point is that Dorit still brought the seducing thing UP. Erika didn't like that, she made it known with her "the more you talk about it, the worse it gets."

Then why didn't Erika follow her own advice? Why did she bring up pantygate again and talk more about it in Hong Kong?

Edited April 25, 2017 by VedaPierce

[Yours Truly]

30 minutes ago, Giselle said:

I think we have seen it in Kim if the stylist's relaying of events are true. Kim's dog attacked her and Kim refused to call 911 until the woman agreed to say it was a stray dog. That is evil. Sadly I am inclined to believe the stylist's accusations because we have seen the utter disregard for her niece and longtime friend when they were bitten by the same dog.

Well that's being inappropriately self serving through desperate measures. I don't think that's the same as jamming the knife into someone until they draw blood.

I'm not denying that Kim has engaged in some pretty selfish and thoughtless behavior. Some downright dangerous behavior but I don't think it equates to her wanting to deliberately eviscerate someone for sport.

But then again not being able to stand someone doesn't really need to be sub catalogued into accurate catagories I guess. LOL. ;-)  End of the day Kim made some bad decisions and people are gonna feel how they feel about her. This I do get. :-)

[AndySmith]

13 hours ago, chewycandy said:

I think Erika got the gist from Dorit telling her he was looking, everyone had seen it, and she wasnt sure if Erika was trying to seduce her husband, but here's some lace panties!

Ericka not knowing exactly what PK said doesn't mean he wasnt the cause. He told Dorit, and she ran with it.

Yeah, and in her passive-aggressive asshole way..."I'm sure sure wasn't trying to seduce my husband because a real lady crosses her leg etc"...

Edited April 25, 2017 by AndySmith

[zoeysmom]

12 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

I think the "timing" had a lot to do with watching the episodes before the reunion was filmed. Kim was reminded of what Rinna said about her/Kyle, what she told others just before she gave Kim the bunny, Rinna's overall nasty behavior this season and Kim decided to return the bunny in the same manner it was given....on camera.

At least Kim watched the episodes this year.  She has admitted to not watching episodes once she acted up.  This year she actually live tweeted a few.  Kim was on WWHL earlier this year when they showed her some footage of Rinna talking smack about her and she was a little taken back. 

[WireWrap]

36 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

Well that's being inappropriately self serving through desperate measures. I don't think that's the same as jamming the knife into someone until they draw blood.

I'm not denying that Kim has engaged in some pretty selfish and thoughtless behavior. Some downright dangerous behavior but I don't think it equates to her wanting to deliberately eviscerate someone for sport.

But then again not being able to stand someone doesn't really need to be sub catalogued into accurate catagories I guess. LOL. ;-)  End of the day Kim made some bad decisions and people are gonna feel how they feel about her. This I do get. :-)

Kim went after Brandi for no reason other than that Kyle didn't like her (when Brandi first joined the show), so, Yes, Kim has stabbed/drawn blood as well. Kim is a nasty person be it drunk/high or sober but she has never used another HW as her storyline like Rinna has done, so she, Kim, has that in her favor. As much as I dislike Kim, she was not the aggressor/nasty one this season.

[BravoAddict72]

Part of the problem is that Kim never owns up to anything. She won't talk about her dog biting her niece or friend. She won't talk about her arrest. She won't talk about her ex. Nothing is ever her fault! It's like she skipped over steps 4.,5,8,9,& 10 in her recovery. It was just a rude thing to do to Lisa or anyone else. If she didn't want the gift fine, but it was wrong to return it like that. She could have just thrown it away.

[chewycandy]

1 hour ago, VedaPierce said:

Then why didn't Erika follow her own advice? Why did she bring up pantygate again and talk more about it in Hong Kong?

Maybe because Dorit couldn't stop with her little jabs? "You don't talk enough." So she asked Dorit what her problem with her was. 

[Yours Truly]

47 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Kim went after Brandi for no reason other than that Kyle didn't like her (when Brandi first joined the show), so, Yes, Kim has stabbed/drawn blood as well. Kim is a nasty person be it drunk/high or sober but she has never used another HW as her storyline like Rinna has done, so she, Kim, has that in her favor. As much as I dislike Kim, she was not the aggressor/nasty one this season.

I'm not being understood.

I'm talking about going after someone relentlessly with low blows until they potentially affect a persons life.

Not being bitchy to the new girl. Not being an annoying drunk. Not taking nasty jabs during an argument. I'm talking about obsessing over someone else needlessly to the point they feel justified in constantly berating them? She was standoffish with Brandi cause of the crystal meth accusation (and yeah that happened because both Kyle and Kim decided to pull the bitch sister mean girl routine on her) but funny enough she was able to get passed that. And during the time she didn't want to have anything to do with Brandi she pretty much maintained her distance and did her best to avoid her at all cost not constantly seek her out to antagonize. 

I was just curious about when she went after anyone's blood for no real reason.

But it's not that serious. I've moved on.

46 minutes ago, BravoAddict72 said:

Part of the problem is that Kim never owns up to anything. She won't talk about her dog biting her niece or friend. She won't talk about her arrest. She won't talk about her ex. Nothing is ever her fault! It's like she skipped over steps 4.,5,8,9,& 10 in her recovery. It was just a rude thing to do to Lisa or anyone else. If she didn't want the gift fine, but it was wrong to return it like that. She could have just thrown it away.

Who is she SUPPOSED to talk to about those things?

Edited April 25, 2017 by Yours Truly

[WireWrap]

1 minute ago, Yours Truly said:

I'm not being understood.

I'm talking about going after someone relentlessly with low blows until they potentially affect a persons life.

Not being bitchy to the new girl. Not being an annoying drunk. Not taking nasty jabs during an argument. I'm talking about obsessing over someone else needlessly to the point they feel justified in constantly berating them? She was standoffish with Brandi cause of the crystal meth accusation (and yeah that happened because both Kyle and Kim decided to pull the bitch sister mean girl routine on her) but funny enough she was able to get passed that. And during the time she didn't want to have anything to do with Brandi she pretty much maintained her distance and did her best to avoid her at all cost not constantly seek her out to antagonize. 

I was just curious about when she went after anyone's blood for no real reason.

But it's not that serious. I've moved on.

Kim was like that with Brandi her entire first season though. Kim was horrid to her and that is the main reason, IMO, that prompted many of us to support/like/side with Brandi. Kim wasn't "standoffish" with Brandi, she was the aggressor, even after Kyle asked her to back down. Kim went after Brandi every chance she got, be it face to face with her or to the other women and in her THs, she was pretty ruthless.

IMO, just because Kim has been horrid to others in the past it still doesn't negate what Rinna has done to her since the reunion 3 years ago. We, as viewers, held Kim accountable for her actions and Rinna is being held accountable now for hers.

[Martinigirl]

Sorry, but it appears no one holds Kim accountable for one damn thing!

[Yours Truly]

11 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Kim was like that with Brandi her entire first season though. Kim was horrid to her and that is the main reason, IMO, that prompted many of us to support/like/side with Brandi. Kim wasn't "standoffish" with Brandi, she was the aggressor, even after Kyle asked her to back down. Kim went after Brandi every chance she got, be it face to face with her or to the other women and in her THs, she was pretty ruthless.

IMO, just because Kim has been horrid to others in the past it still doesn't negate what Rinna has done to her since the reunion 3 years ago. We, as viewers, held Kim accountable for her actions and Rinna is being held accountable now for hers.

Yeah, I didn't see any of that. I remember Kim making it clear that she didn't like Brandi, wasn't gonna be her friend and it was because of what she accused her off doing at game night. See, this is what I like to see. Kim was clear why she didn't like her. Made it clear she didn't want to squash shit and yeah whenever Brandi tried to make peace she wasn't having any of it and let her have it cause Brandi knew damn well Kim didn't want to talk to her.

There was no confusion over the matter. No we're good, oh wait no we're not, oh okay this time we're good I understand now, and then weeks later, oh no we're not. Kim was mad at Brandi over what happened and wasn't gonna pretend to like her until that animosity faded. Point. Blank. Period. And they've been cool ever since they finally got passed their shit. Why? Cause there was none of the fake back and forth bullshit that the rest of them pull. Pretending to squash shit when they are still seriously in their feels about stuff.

Say what you want but Kim was pretty straight forward at the reunion as well. Not sugar coating shit and getting right to the point about why she's not feeling Rinna. These woman are used to niceties they don't deserve for behavior that's way over the line. Kim had asked that people stop talking and speculating about her sobriety which I feel is an acceptable expectation to have of people. However Rinna expects hugs to fix everything. "I own it" to absolve her of her shit and "I don't remember" to wiggle out of vicious comments. But Kim being direct about what she's got beef with. Or act out in reaction to some bullshit aimed at her life and her struggle with addiction and that's somehow extremely awful.

So to me.....

....Oh well.

Edited April 25, 2017 by Yours Truly

[WireWrap]

3 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Sorry, but it appears no one holds Kim accountable for one damn thing!

No, not really. Kim has been called out numerous times for her nasty behavior by the other HWs (and by most viewers). it just never got through the addicts haze/fog to do any good. Nothing seems to get through Rinna's thick skull either! LOL Kim and Rinna are more alike than not in their nasty, entitled behavior BUT, Kim never went after Rinna on SM or in interviews like Rinna/HH have her. And Kim did not use Rinna as "her" storyline, ever. LOL

[Martinigirl]

LOL! Rinna has  model daughters, QVC, Harry's meat, BF Eileen, her charity, etc.

What would Kim's story line be? She has none. Well, not anything anyone is allowed to talk about.

Edited April 25, 2017 by Martinigirl

[WireWrap]

4 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

Yeah, I didn't see any of that. I remember Kim making it clear that she didn't like Brandi, wasn't gonna be her friend and it was because of what she accused her off doing at game night. See, this is what I like to see. Kim was clear why she didn't like her. Made it clear she didn't want to squash shit and yeah whenever Brandi tried to make peace she wasn't having any of it and let her have it cause Brandi knew damn well Kim didn't want to talk to her.

There was no confusion over the matter. No we're good, oh wait no we're not, oh okay this time we're good I understand now, and then weeks later, oh no we're not. Kim was mad at Brandi over what happened and wasn't gonna pretend to like her until that animosity faded. Point. Blank. Period. And they've been cool ever since they finally got passed their shit. Why? Cause there was none of the fake back and forth bullshit that the rest of them pull. Pretending to squash shit when they are still seriously in their feels about stuff.

Say what you want but Kim was pretty straight forward at the reunion as well. Not sugar coating shit and getting right to the point about why she's not feeling you. These woman are used to niceties they don't deserve for behavior that's way over the line. Kim had asked that people stop talking and speculating about her sobriety which I feel is an acceptable expectation to have of people. However Rinna expects hugs to fix everything. "I own it" to absolve her of her shit and "I don't remember" to wiggle out of vicious comments. But Kim being direct about what she's got beef with. That's somehow extremely awful.

So to me.....

....Oh well.

Kim was ugly to Brandi before the "meth in the bathroom" comment was made. As for Kim's sobriety being an issue, it became one when it was clear she wasn't sober/clean despite her claims to the opposite. No matter what, at the reunion 3 years ago, Rinna promised to stop and she didn't and has kept it up each year both on and off the show which is solely on Rinna, not on Kim. I don't think Kim was wrong in returning the bunny to Rinna on camera. At least Kim was honest about why she was doing it, Rinna wasn't honest when she gave it Kim to begin with nor in her grab at being a victim at the reunion either.  

[WireWrap]

6 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

LOL! Rinna has  model daughters, QVC, Harry's meat, BF Eileen, her charity, etc.

What would Kim's story line be? She has none. Well, not anything anyone is allowed to talk about.

Rinna has used Kim as part of her storyline since the end of her first season even though she has had very little interaction with Kim on the show and they have nothing to do with each other off the show.

[sarivon]

On 4/21/2017 at 2:55 PM, zoeysmom said:

I don't think Erika Jayne's videos are suppose to invoke a funny response, isn't she suppose to be a singer not a parody?  Do you think Tom received the desired response, which I would assume he desired  she is a great singer.

 

I did not say anyone laughed AT the video, I said some thought it was funny. They watched it, got a chuckle out of it, and until I asked, said they never thought about it again. There was no single great wave of outrage and I think Tom is fine with the response he got.

[Martinigirl]

Just now, WireWrap said:

Rinna has used Kim as part of her storyline since the end of her first season even though she has had very little interaction with Kim on the show and they have nothing to do with each other off the show.

And what is Kim's story line? I can't think of a damn thing.

[sarivon]

3 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

I think people give the bunny act way too much credence. 

 

I think people give the response to Ericka's video way too much credence.

 

17 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Yes, I'd love to hear any scoop that Lololol has (oh, sorry - I meant Kallee. Writing styles are similar and I got mixed up for a minute) regarding Erika and her education. 

 

Yeah, not just you.

Edited April 25, 2017 by sarivon

[WireWrap]

Just now, Martinigirl said:

And what is Kim's story line? I can't think of a damn thing.

Well, this season it was about her soon to be grandson and her sobriety. Also, as a FOH, she really doesn't need a storyline, only the full HWs need one.

[Martinigirl]

1 minute ago, WireWrap said:

Well, this season it was about her soon to be grandson and her sobriety. Also, as a FOH, she really doesn't need a storyline, only the full HWs need one.

Nope, can't talk about her sobriety. 

[BravoAddict72]

41 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

Who is she SUPPOSED to talk to about those things?

She could start by apologizing to Lisa and everyone at the reunion for doing a nasty, tacky thing. She could answer the questions at the reunion instead of refusing to talk about them. She could just for once take ownership instead of sitting there in her giggly voice not talking about anything negative. Everyonr always protecting her so she doesn't get upset is not helping her in the long run.

[sarivon]

3 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Nope, can't talk about her sobriety. 

 

Next season it will be her LACK of sobriety.

[Martinigirl]

2 minutes ago, BravoAddict72 said:

She could start by apologizing to Lisa and everyone at the reunion for doing a nasty, tacky thing. She could answer the questions at the reunion instead of refusing to talk about them. She could just for once take ownership instead of sitting there in her giggly voice not talking about anything negative. Everyonr always protecting her so she doesn't get upset is not helping her in the long run.

I don't know why they even have Kim on the damn show. I'm so sick of her and her stupid faces. She is one nasty piece of work.  I really feel for her children. 

[WireWrap]

7 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Nope, can't talk about her sobriety. 

But she did, with Kyle. She doesn't want the other to use it as their storylines (like Rinna has done before and did again this season), she wants control over it, just like the others want control over what is said about their private lives. Look at this way, Kim doesn't want Rinna to talk about it anymore than Rinna wanted Kathryn to talk about Rinna's issues with eating/food! LOL At least Kathryn had the good graces to respect Rinna's wishes, whereas Rinna doesn't even respect her own promise to stop talking about Kim/Kyle.

4 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

I don't know why they even have Kim on the damn show. I'm so sick of her and her stupid faces. She is one nasty piece of work.  I really feel for her children. 

Because Andy Loves her, he really does! LOL

Edited April 25, 2017 by WireWrap