Bosch: Legacy - General Discussion

[Kerri Okie]

2 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

Having never read the books I came into this with no preconceived notions, but I bet that those books were page turners. 

One of the things I like a lot about this series is that enough is changed so that even if you have read the books, you still don't know whodunnit.  Angel's Flight alone has a slightly different set of victims and a different killer, with definitely a different outcome, so don't let having seen the show stop you from reading the books.  

[FinnishViewer]

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One of the things I like a lot about this series is that enough is changed

The most significant change they have made in the TV series is the relationship between Irving and Bosch. I think I kinda like the TV version better.

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Having never read the books I came into this with no preconceived notions, but I bet that those books were page turners

The Harry Bosch in the books can be a bit too much some times though. They have toned him down quite a bit in my opinion for the TV series.

[Readalot]

8 hours ago, Raja said:

Off screen? I don't see how you can't go public with the death of a suspected serial killer and the closing of the case. But that doesn't mean press conferences and Crate and Barrel being upheld as heroes of Los Angeles. After all they did not track him down and arrest him. With the larger story going on about the torture and what everyone thought was the police assassination of a civil rights attorney.

Few Los Angeles based stories take place below ground and you never hear about rats that don't fear people. Maybe they are around the growing homeless tent cities but it never occurred to me to think hey no rats that might be standard in a NYPD based show.

I need to watch this epsisode, or actually the whole season again. I remember the scene where they were congratulating themselves but I don’t remember how they actually solved the case. I’m halfway through 4.1 and I am seeing so much I didn’t before 

[Readalot]

I like the Madi interactions, at this point she is all Bosch has.  I was pleasantly surprised to hear Chapman mentioned. Our daughter goes there. Their film school and alumni has a lot of Hollywood connections, I wonder if it was deliberate though that. Go Panthers! 

On another note, I hope Bosch finds peace now. It’s sad that he and Madi can bond over their moms being murdered. 

[catrice2]

I can do without the family scenes with Bosch and J Edgar. I hope Madi stays at college in the next series and J. Edgar just spends time with his sons.  Love Irving....is this the last we see of the mayor?

[Irlandesa]

On 4/16/2018 at 4:58 AM, FinnishViewer said:

They received a two-season-renewal last year after season 3. I think I saw on Twitter / Instagram of Titus Welliver or Michael Connelly, that they just started work on season 5.

I am pretty sure the 2 season renewal came for seasons 3 and 4.  The fifth season was announced in Feb, around the same time the April debut date was announced.   One thing I noticed about this season that previous seasons lacked was a sense of things wrapping up.  It could have ended here and there weren't any ongoing stories.  Last season the threads about Bosch's mother's killer and the Koreatown killer were left open. 

On 4/18/2018 at 9:25 AM, Sir RaiderDuck OMS said:

A) Whole Koreatown Killer arc kind of fizzled out, no?

 

I don't feel like it did.  Since we already knew what the killer looked like and the murders seemed random, without specific motivation (towards the specific victims), I wasn't looking forward to spending a lot of time with that lack of mystery.  It was the reason I wasn't a huge fan of S1's serial killer story. 

But to have that story also end randomly made it work for me. The fact that it was likely a combination of the killer's recklessness on the bike meeting a potentially distracted driver and Crate & Barrel's dumb luck felt comedically satisfying to me.  That's the way this works sometimes.

As for Maddie, I think she has a place but I hope next season gives her a little bit less of a place.  There was just a tad too much of her this season--likely related to her mother's murder.  Hopefully, that's the only reason. 

Edited April 21, 2018 by Irlandesa

[White Sheep]

The youth home. Bosch was in as a kid. He talks about in S3E03 to the tagger kid.  Is that youth home still in business in modern day LA?

Edited April 21, 2018 by White Sheep

[White Sheep]

On 3/13/2016 at 10:39 AM, molshoop said:

I remember Irving being much more unlikable in the books than in this series.

Plus him and Bosch was mortal enemies.   In the one with the coyote that finds the kids bone.  Bosch finds out he stop an investigation lead that would have quit the killer when it happened.  

 

The youth home. Bosch was in as a kid. He talks about in S3E03 to the tagger kid.  Is that youth home still in business in modern day LA?

Edited April 21, 2018 by White Sheep

[pivot]

1 hour ago, White Sheep said:

The youth home. Bosch was in as a kid. He talks about in S3E03 to the tagger kid.  Is that youth home still in business in modern day LA?

Yes. There was a scene there in season 1 where Bosch went back to the home looking for info on a suspect.

[Desperately Random]

13 hours ago, 2727 said:

I did, just the wrong one!

Me too. I thought that her losing her ID was the giveaway that she was the shooter but I guess it was a red herring. Never occurred to me it was the other one. 

Really enjoying this season. It started out a little slow but by the third episode I was fighting not to binge the remaining episodes. Been doing one a day to make them last.

[Desperately Random]

I was just thinking after the first two episodes that I guess they weren't going to follow the books and kill off Eleanor. And then they did it. Took me by surprise.  Maybe I should have seen it coming with her going undercover with the Asian gambling but I figured as long as the story didn't take her to Hong Kong, it wasn't going to happen.

[Prevailing Wind]

I thought her losing her ID indicated someone stole it to use nefariously, especially when it showed back up "in the parking lot."  If she were the one, I don't think she'd have mentioned her ID at all.

[2727]

Just finished Two Kinds of Truth and am really enjoying the change of pace in the later books with Harry out of LAPD.  I don't suppose the show will go there, though -- maybe in the final season?

On 3/21/2018 at 4:42 AM, GussieK said:

My husband and I listen to the Bosch books in the car. We are in the middle of the latest one.  We do not listen when not in the car, so it keeps up the suspense. Titus Welliver has been the reader for the last few, which is a nice touch, as we are fans of the show too.

Ya know, Welliver has won awards for his audio performances, but I don't like his reading! It's fun to hear his voice, but his narration seems very flat and rushed to me. Personal quirk!

[Kerri Okie]

On 4/20/2018 at 12:47 PM, FinnishViewer said:

The most significant change they have made in the TV series is the relationship between Irving and Bosch. I think I kinda like the TV version better.

The Harry Bosch in the books can be a bit too much some times though. They have toned him down quite a bit in my opinion for the TV series.

Yes to both of these comments.  MC writes good mystery/procedural, but not always great interpersonal relationships, Bosch's romances in particular.  (I personally couldn't stand Eleanor, neither the book nor the TV versions, and wasn't sorry to see her written out.)  It feels like Amazon has put together a writing team that allows him to play to his strengths, while improving on other aspects of the novels that aren't so much in his wheelhouse.  I don't mind the family stuff. I could have done without Maddie's walkabout scene, but in general, I like Bosch's relationship with his daughter and their scenes together, and I was glad to see a secondary character like Edgar be given so much importance aside from the main storyline.

 

On 4/20/2018 at 3:27 PM, Readalot said:

I like the Madi interactions, at this point she is all Bosch has.  I was pleasantly surprised to hear Chapman mentioned. Our daughter goes there. Their film school and alumni has a lot of Hollywood connections, I wonder if it was deliberate though that. Go Panthers! 

Maddie goes to Chapman in the books as well.

Edited April 25, 2018 by Kerri Okie
Because it's Amazon, not that other network.

[Calvada]

At first I was sort of disappointed by the way the Koreatown Killer story ended, but I think it was true to life.  Often, cases are solved not by crackerjack investigative work, but by a fluke.  Think about Ted Bundy being caught in a traffic stop, David Berkowitz because of a parking ticket, and so on.  There was a case in Wisconsin a few years ago where a guy was charged for a child porn crime (was exchanging images with a person in another state), they ran his DNA, and hey!  He's the serial rapist they had been looking for.  I suppose it couldn't be included because of time constraints, but even when the crime spree ended by KTK killing himself through reckless bicycle riding, I have to believe that LA officials (or any city where something like this happened) would be having a press conference to proclaim the end of terror, blah, blah, blah.  

One thing that was odd was the attitude of the uniformed officer to the gun found at the scene.  Did he just not see it?  And why wasn't he at all bothered by the fact that he missed it, and it was pointed out to him by a lieutenant?  Or if he did see it, he was pretty ho hum about it.  At least pick the damn thing up and bag it!  

[Raja]

14 minutes ago, Calvada said:

At first I was sort of disappointed by the way the Koreatown Killer story ended, but I think it was true to life.  Often, cases are solved not by crackerjack investigative work, but by a fluke.  Think about Ted Bundy being caught in a traffic stop, David Berkowitz because of a parking ticket, and so on.  There was a case in Wisconsin a few years ago where a guy was charged for a child porn crime (was exchanging images with a person in another state), they ran his DNA, and hey!  He's the serial rapist they had been looking for.  I suppose it couldn't be included because of time constraints, but even when the crime spree ended by KTK killing himself through reckless bicycle riding, I have to believe that LA officials (or any city where something like this happened) would be having a press conference to proclaim the end of terror, blah, blah, blah.  

One thing that was odd was the attitude of the uniformed officer to the gun found at the scene.  Did he just not see it?  And why wasn't he at all bothered by the fact that he missed it, and it was pointed out to him by a lieutenant?  Or if he did see it, he was pretty ho hum about it.  At least pick the damn thing up and bag it!  

It was a hit and run and thus a homicide investigation is my guess. So the evidence just stayed in place awaiting Scientific Investigation Division. Crate and Barrel coming back from the COMSTAT meeting just happened to catch the case. There is an Adam-12 episode and back then 1969/70 era because a hit and run happened on Sunday no detectives rolled out, no SID or anything and between patrol Reed and Malloy broke the case as their Sergeant gave them some leeway after taking Polaroid pictures of the crime scene.

[Pike Ludwell]

I loved the concept of that running story of the KTK - the bike rider. A running story with a few seconds in an episode every once in a while.  Finally it ends suddenly in this episode. Neat idea to have a brief side story like that, unconnected to anything else - it's sort of like the little running gags they'd have on the sides of the pages of Mad Magazine.  And now I see Maddie wandering around in the desert! The writers should have a little fun, and have her encounter a cougar!

[Raja]

40 minutes ago, riverclown said:

I loved the concept of that running story of the KTK - the bike rider. A running story with a few seconds in an episode every once in a while.  Finally it ends suddenly in this episode. Neat idea to have a brief side story like that, unconnected to anything else - it's sort of like the little running gags they'd have on the sides of the pages of Mad Magazine.  And now I see Maddie wandering around in the desert! The writers should have a little fun, and have her encounter a cougar!

I was thinking that her skin should have been peeling off from sunburn the next day

Edited April 21, 2018 by Raja

[Desperately Random]

10 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

I thought her losing her ID indicated someone stole it to use nefariously, especially when it showed back up "in the parking lot."  If she were the one, I don't think she'd have mentioned her ID at all.

I was thinking that she said something because she didn't know where she lost it or if it would turn up again. If she hadn't mentioned losing it and it turned up near the crime scene, it would look more suspicious than if she never mentioned it.

It looks like we were both wrong since it seems she just lost it. At least so far. I haven't seen the last episode so there could still be a twist coming. Or not. ?

[Mindthinkr]

My first thought re: the missing ID was that someone stole it to get access into their war room (like Drake). 

[Fiftyninth]

On 3/13/2016 at 10:39 AM, molshoop said:

I remember Irving being much more unlikable in the books than in this series.

I can’t believe how much I’ve eventually warmed up to the TV version of Irving; the book version of this character was odious.

[Readalot]

On 4/21/2018 at 7:30 AM, Kerri Okie said:

Yes to both of these comments.  MC writes good mystery/procedural, but not always great interpersonal relationships, Bosch's romances in particular.  (I personally couldn't stand Eleanor, neither the book nor the TV versions, and wasn't sorry to see her written out.)  It feels like Netflix has put together a writing team that allows him to play to his strengths, while improving on other aspects of the novels that aren't so much in his wheelhouse.  I don't mind the family stuff. I could have done without Maddie's walkabout scene, but in general, I like Bosch's relationship with his daughter and their scenes together, and I was glad to see a secondary character like Edgar be given so much importance aside from the main storyline.

 

Maddie goes to Chapman in the books as well.

Good to know!  I’ve debated on whether or not to start reading the Bosch series. I can’t read gory books any longer but if the series is the like the book I think I will be ok? 

[jrlr]

This may be the first time I haven't been annoyed to death by a teenage daughter in the mix;  The Americans' Paige and Homeland's Dana Brody are and were two of the most unneeded, irritating, waste-of-space chacters ever.  Maddie, on the other hand,  seems to me to be a fullly realized young woman with an actual place in the plot, and I think Madison Lintz is impressive in the part.  Like most of you, I could have done with a little less walkabout, but even that didn't really bother me because it was such a great portayal of grief.  Also, the last scene on Ep 10 with Harry and Maddie scattering Elanor's ashes was visually beautiful and a great way to end the season. 

I am, however, very impatient and bored with Jerry Edgar's home life.

[FinnishViewer]

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It feels like Netflix has put together a writing team that allows him to play to his strengths, while improving on other aspects of the novels that aren't so much in his wheelhouse.

Just a nit pick, but it's Amazon, not Netflix. Can't have the wrong streaming company take credit :)

[FinnishViewer]

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Ya know, Welliver has won awards for his audio performances, but I don't like his reading! It's fun to hear his voice, but his narration seems very flat and rushed to me. Personal quirk!

I agree. While it's nice to have Titus Welliver narrate in the new Bosch audiobooks, his voice is a bit too monotone. I prefer Len Cariou's narration much more in the older books.

[Prevailing Wind]

I love Len Cariou.

[Kerri Okie]

16 hours ago, FinnishViewer said:

Just a nit pick, but it's Amazon, not Netflix. Can't have the wrong streaming company take credit :)

You are absolutely right, thanks.  That's what I get for flipping back and forth between episodes of Bosch and A Series of Unfortunate Events.  I'll go fix my post. 

[yourmomiseasy]

Cameron Hayes, Jimmy O, and Lyla all at the Angels Flight crime scene made me wonder if any other SOA actors will be showing up.

[AdebisiLives]

I’m not a fan of the teenage daughter storyline on any show... it was painful watching it on 24 & Homeland. This isn’t quite as bad, but still bad.

Only show that a teenage daughter storyline works is on The Americans & that’s because she has a specific role in the plot as a XXX (don’t know how to do spoilers, but if you watch you’ll know what I mean).

[AdebisiLives]

Lyla from SOA is a terrible actor... she pulls me out of every scene she’s in. This is too big a role for her here... rest of casting is spot on.

[AdebisiLives]

Bosch is the WORST teammate ever... always going rogue on the case & leaving his partners in the dark. I don't know if we're supposed to like him, but I do NOT like the guy. To me he's no anti-hero, just an asshole.

Also, the daughter storyline felt very out of place... tone completely changed & episodes lost all momentum in those scenes. I think it could have been left out completely w/no effect on the plot... perhaps the show runners are trying to pull a more diverse audience or something? For me, it was boring & took me out of the episode.  

On 4/22/2018 at 12:04 PM, jrlr said:

This may be the first time I haven't been annoyed to death by a teenage daughter in the mix;  The Americans' Paige and Homeland's Dana Brody are and were two of the most unneeded, irritating, waste-of-space chacters ever.  Maddie, on the other hand,  seems to me to be a fullly realized young woman with an actual place in the plot, and I think Madison Lintz is impressive in the part.  Like most of you, I could have done with a little less walkabout, but even that didn't really bother me because it was such a great portayal of grief.  Also, the last scene on Ep 10 with Harry and Maddie scattering Elanor's ashes was visually beautiful and a great way to end the season. 

I am, however, very impatient and bored with Jerry Edgar's home life.

You must not watch The Americans anymore because Paige is definitely not a "waste of space" character... she has a huge role in the plot, whereas the Maddie character here does not.

[Irlandesa]

9 hours ago, AdebisiLives said:

Only show that a teenage daughter storyline works is on The Americans & that’s because she has a specific role in the plot as a XXX (don’t know how to do spoilers, but if you watch you’ll know what I mean).

Ha.  I don't know of you've read The Americans board or not but many, so many, would disagree with you about Paige. I think Maddie has far less airtime which is why it worked here for me.

[mjc570]

I'm sick of Maddie, both as a character and as an actor.  She's so whiny, and her treatment of Harry was just awful - too bad she it takes so long to show him even an iota of the love she has for Reggie.  I'm not sure it even happened yet, since I FF through all her scenes, especially her wandering in the desert for 40 years .  H ha, I originally had "dessert," which at least might have been delicious.

I also thought it was the other IA, because of the ID.  I like how it unfolded, although I'm pretty sure word would have gotten around about the camera in the evidence room.

I'm not sure why, maybe because of his commanding presence and deep voice, but Capt. Irving (who was much worse int he books, if I remember) is my favorite character,  I am mesmerized whenever he is on the screen.

[Prevailing Wind]

I like the actress who plays his "girlfriend" or whatever she is. But it took me a while to remember that I know her as Hoshi from "Enterprise."

[Raja]

31 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

I like the actress who plays his "girlfriend" or whatever she is. But it took me a while to remember that I know her as Hoshi from "Enterprise."

Linda Park, that is exactly who she is. His wife left after they lost their son.

[White Sheep]

On 4/21/2018 at 12:07 AM, pivot said:

Yes. There was a scene there in season 1 where Bosch went back to the home looking for info on a suspect.

I remeber that.  But I did not realize it was the same place.  

 

What youth home in real life is it based?    

[auntiemel]

Len Cariou is also my favorite, but I enjoy Titus Welliver's work. As long as they don't go back to the guy that read #16, The Black Box. I grew up in the Central Valley, 15 minutes from Manteca, 30 minutes from Modesto and Stockton, respectively. I can't tell you how it freaking grated on my nerves to hear him mispronouncing the various names of cities from the valley. Thank God he managed Modesto and Stockton, since those were the major players. But every single other one (Manteca, Ripon, and Salida spring to mind) he managed to fuck it up like he was doing it intentionally!

Anyway. Rant over. Here's a video clip with Michael Connelly and Titus Welliver at the LA Times Festival of Books talking about Titus doing the audiobooks:
 

Another great clip:
 

[auntiemel]

On 4/20/2018 at 9:39 PM, Desperately Random said:

I was just thinking after the first two episodes that I guess they weren't going to follow the books and kill off Eleanor. And then they did it. Took me by surprise.  Maybe I should have seen it coming with her going undercover with the Asian gambling but I figured as long as the story didn't take her to Hong Kong, it wasn't going to happen.

Same. Although, this storyline makes more sense for TV, because with only ten episodes and a lot of other things going on, it would be hard to work in Harry and Maddie dealing with the fact that her death was both of their faults, in different ways. I like this better for the show.

Edited May 1, 2018 by auntiemel

[FinnishViewer]

Season 5 will draw its main story line from Two Kinds of Truth, http://fanfest.com/2018/04/26/bosch-titus-welliver-shares-season-5-source-material/

[BrittaBot]

On 4/22/2018 at 12:04 PM, jrlr said:

This may be the first time I haven't been annoyed to death by a teenage daughter in the mix;  The Americans' Paige and Homeland's Dana Brody are and were two of the most unneeded, irritating, waste-of-space chacters ever.  Maddie, on the other hand,  seems to me to be a fullly realized young woman with an actual place in the plot, and I think Madison Lintz is impressive in the part.  Like most of you, I could have done with a little less walkabout, but even that didn't really bother me because it was such a great portayal of grief.  Also, the last scene on Ep 10 with Harry and Maddie scattering Elanor's ashes was visually beautiful and a great way to end the season. 

I am, however, very impatient and bored with Jerry Edgar's home life.

 

I've always thought this about Maddie. I think the difference is that, for some reason, the actress manages to act like a normal teenager. Like I feel you could insert her into any high school and she'd be fine. Her emotions make sense; her actions make sense. I don't know who's writing her but kudos to them and kudos to Madison Lintz. 

Edited May 7, 2018 by BrittaBot

[jrlr]

On 4/28/2018 at 2:00 AM, AdebisiLives said:

Bosch is the WORST teammate ever... always going rogue on the case & leaving his partners in the dark. I don't know if we're supposed to like him, but I do NOT like the guy. To me he's no anti-hero, just an asshole.

Also, the daughter storyline felt very out of place... tone completely changed & episodes lost all momentum in those scenes. I think it could have been left out completely w/no effect on the plot... perhaps the show runners are trying to pull a more diverse audience or something? For me, it was boring & took me out of the episode.  

You must not watch The Americans anymore because Paige is definitely not a "waste of space" character... she has a huge role in the plot, whereas the Maddie character here does not.

I still watch the Americans, and I still think Paige is a waste of space - a badly writtten, poorly acted character.  Taking up more plot time with Paige is just irritating.

[yourmomiseasy]

On 4/20/2018 at 7:07 AM, Raja said:

Off screen? I don't see how you can't go public with the death of a suspected serial killer and the closing of the case. But that doesn't mean press conferences and Crate and Barrel being upheld as heroes of Los Angeles. After all they did not track him down and arrest him. With the larger story going on about the torture and what everyone thought was the police assassination of a civil rights attorney.

Few Los Angeles based stories take place below ground and you never hear about rats that don't fear people. Maybe they are around the growing homeless tent cities but it never occurred to me to think hey no rats that might be standard in a NYPD based show.

There are rats in Los Angeles, especially downtown.  You don't see them scurrying around on the ground that much though.  I think in general roof rats are a bigger problem.  They love palm trees, bougainvillea, and citrus trees  -- so basically, the quintessential LA landscaping.   

[Guest]

On 4/20/2018 at 5:54 AM, Mindthinkr said:

Thank goodness they have respirators now for the cops viewing an autopsy, but yes...mints (and Vick’s) are great for helping to quell gagging from strong odors  

@Prevailing Wind If we are talking about the first scene we saw Sheenan being offered the mints I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree because I strongly think that he had a drinking problem. Keep watching and you will see more of it. 

He looked like a homeless person so I assumed he smelled like booze, too.  

[benteen]

Very good start.  I enjoy this series a great deal.

[Guest]

I really enjoy the Maddie character and actress.  Finally, a show where a teen girl isn't the stereotypical hormonal nightmare bitch from hell.  She does pull back from Harry but she mostly lets him know she's doing it and why, and when she'll be back.  

I was glad they didn't strand her in the desert or something. 

I really liked that when Harry scolded her for not knowing where she was, she reminded him there are apps for that.  It bugs the crap out of me when tv shows ignore that simple fact.  And him a detective.  

The KTK stuff is kind of confusing me.  I enjoy how the story is just sprinkled in, but so he died off camera in a hit and run where a gun of his was found, and stolen phones, so Crate and Barrel figured out he's KTK?  Kind of anticlimactic but ok.  

I also am not sure why Internal Affairs officers are working the case with the task force but more as lackeys than as overseers, when Bosch sees fit.  Would IA really take orders like "go interview the neighbors alone" from the man they're there to watch work?  Tiny nit but I've never seen IA portrayed like this before.  

[Raja]

1 hour ago, Winston9-DT3 said:

 

I also am not sure why Internal Affairs officers are working the case with the task force but more as lackeys than as overseers, when Bosch sees fit.  Would IA really take orders like "go interview the neighbors alone" from the man they're there to watch work?  Tiny nit but I've never seen IA portrayed like this before.  

The Chief of Police put Bosch in charge of a task force, the Internal Affairs Group still works for the police department, not the County DA. They were there because police, specifically the "elite" detectives from Robbery Homicide Division were among the usual suspects but not the actual target of an investigation.

[Guest]

Thanks but I still don't really understand it.  Aren't IA officers typically investigating officers' conduct, not homicides and such?  I understand the RHDs are suspects so IA would be interested but I would expect them to monitor the investigation from above Bosch, not beneath him?

[Raja]

2 minutes ago, Winston9-DT3 said:

Thanks but I still don't really understand it.  Aren't IA officers typically investigating officers' conduct, not homicides and such?  I understand the RHDs are suspects so IA would be interested but I would expect them to monitor the investigation from above Bosch, not beneath him?

 Because Bosch is Bosch and the Chief trusted that he would do the right thing. In normal circumstances perhaps an IA detective wouldn't be assigned such a role, but it was politics of the situation  and the Chief assigned them to the task force under Bosch

[Guest]

Ok, thanks.  It just seems like it would be set up to never even be able to happen that way, because they're totally ineffectual if they're underlings.  But this is fiction.  But the chief isn't supposed to be a dirty cop trying to undermine IA or put one over on the public, either, so it seems like he'd want it all very above board.  Bosch is known for being the opposite.  

[Raja]

31 minutes ago, Winston9-DT3 said:

Ok, thanks.  It just seems like it would be set up to never even be able to happen that way, because they're totally ineffectual if they're underlings.  But this is fiction.  But the chief isn't supposed to be a dirty cop trying to undermine IA or put one over on the public, either, so it seems like he'd want it all very above board.  Bosch is known for being the opposite.  

Because IA is a police agency and not independent they are not seen as being above the board anymore than anyone in blue. Thus the constant calls for civilian review boards. Bosch is known by the Chief for going for justice when the politicians and LAPD commanders wanted to turn the other way for what they see as a greater good