zoeysmom November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 So Vicki will never speak Brooks again> http://www.eonline.com/news/714644/vicki-gunvalson-breaks-silence-on-brooks-ayers-city-of-hope-cancer-bombshell Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1698653
KungFuBunny November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Thank you. Hmm it could be. Maybe some rabid fan could snap a side view of the new (same?) man. :-D The shot of him in the straw hat....there is a show on National Geographic about the Smokey Mountains and the people hunt for ginseng. He looks like one of the foragers - LOL 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1698748
Primal Slayer November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Vicki needs to grovel at Meghan/Shannon/Tamras feet next season. I am surprised that Bravo isn't rushing S11 into production. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1698766
zoeysmom November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Vicki needs to grovel at Meghan/Shannon/Tamras feet next season. I am surprised that Bravo isn't rushing S11 into production. For the last ten days Vicki has had every opportunity to show some remorse or introspection into her abetting the Brooks' cancer story. I am writing from the position Brooks does not have cancer and was never treated at City of Hope for cancer or anything else. I went back and read her blogs cancer, cancer, cancer-how could she perpetuate such a fraud and quite frankly create her own little world of lies without some sort of heartfelt mea culpa. granted she is pretty close to the most self-absorbed person on the planet but at some point there has to be something that ignites the pilot and causes her to try and repair the relationships. I guess between she and Tamra making up every season she has forgotten the time that passes between the Reunion airing and filming beginning. So now I guess we are left with Vicki the victim unable to control her burning desires, she teams up with a conman who not only sullied her reputation but broke her heart. At some point even in the sleaziest of romance novels there is good in the heroine-just not happening with Vicki. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1698924
Cherrio November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 I think Vicki ruined her own reputation because she willingly went along and probably created a lot of the scam herself. Brooks was not at the reunion when she lied about going with him to City of Hope for chemo. Now she is saying he is sick. She is sicker than he is imo. He is just a con man. She claims she is a business woman who is beyond reproach. What she really is , is just a con too who lies every time she opens her mouth. If they check the records at City of Dopes, Vicki and Brooks have lifetime memberships. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1698982
zoeysmom November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Vicki has plastered her Twitter with all the Brooks articles and her claim that he is sick. Isn't that what got Vicki and trouble in the first place these proclamations of illness? http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/vicki-gunvalson-vows-to-never-speak-to-brooks-ayers-again-20151111 I think Brooks and Cicki are terribly similar only Brooks has the good sense to apologize while Vicki wants some kind of victim ribbon. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699096
Lyra Angelica November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 I think the City of Hope rightfully doesn't want to be part of Brooks' misrepresentations and have their institution associated with someone who is lying about being treated there. Good for the City of Hope (and the quack doctors Shannon knows ;) ). 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699282
Cherrio November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 http://www.people.com/article/brooks-ayers-cancer-admits-fabricating-medical-documents (mods, if this is taboo, please delete) I am going to guess that Brooks got a very serious letter from the legal representation of City of Hope. I can think of no other reason that he would admit he is a liar and a con man. So, are you still going to sue Meghan Brooks? HA HA HA HA 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699369
Lucygirl2 November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 I got a parent horror story for you... my dad told me if my mom was smart & listened to him 40 years ago & had the abortion we would be having this argument right now! Unfortunately you can't pick your parents & while I don't think Vicki would win any mom of the year awards, I don't think she is one of the worst mothers out there. That being said I still think she is a crazy bitch who lies 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699385
Mya Stone November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 I think in light of the statement that just came out, as long as this doesn't turn into finger pointing and "I told you so's" it's fine to discuss. If you can't discuss it without sniping at each other, we'll step in. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699410
zoeysmom November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 (edited) I got a parent horror story for you... my dad told me if my mom was smart & listened to him 40 years ago & had the abortion we would be having this argument right now! Unfortunately you can't pick your parents & while I don't think Vicki would win any mom of the year awards, I don't think she is one of the worst mothers out there. That being said I still think she is a crazy bitch who lies Lucy I hesitated to like your post because of the horrific parent story. Glad you have survived and here to contribute. I think Vicki's parenting skills will one day be analyzed in a neutral place and her kids can get well. Vicki is a strange lady, someone commented on her son's Instagram about being at some great party/concert or whatever and did a no Vicki invited HAHA and Vicki posted a comment-I would love to be there. Michael is 30 and I doubt he wants to crash his mother's Friday night line dancing with her new fake boyfriend. Vicki shows a lack of growth and my best guess is her next mate will be in his mid-thirties. I often wonder if she doesn't have a couple of young hunks being held hostage in the basement. I could see them chained wearing Speedos and stuffing Coto Insurance envelopes. Edited November 11, 2015 by zoeysmom 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699455
ghoulina November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Good Lord, so now he's saying he DID fake the documents, but only because he wanted to shut people up? He is still maintaining that he does have cancer, but never had any intention of disclosing real medical records? Well, damn man, why not just have left it at that to begin with??? Does he actually think ANYONE believes a word coming out of his mouth??? 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699504
talula November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 http://www.people.com/article/brooks-ayers-cancer-admits-fabricating-medical-documents (mods, if this is taboo, please delete) I am going to guess that Brooks got a very serious letter from the legal representation of City of Hope. I can think of no other reason that he would admit he is a liar and a con man. So, are you still going to sue Meghan Brooks? HA HA HA HA Thanks Cherrio for breaking the story about the no good snake Brooks. Wonder how Andy will include Brooks' confession on his show Thursday at 9 PM? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699538
islandgal140 November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 so apparently the City of Hope Hospital Claims It Never Treated Brooks Ayers! So im guessing this is the final nail in the coffin about the whole does brooks ayers have cancer or not lol! Did they try looking under the name Girth Brooks? I find it hilarious that the article at E! is entitled Brooks comes clean about his "fabricated" medical records. But not really. That man couldn't come clean if you threw him in a pool full of industrial strength bleach and then in a vat of The Dip from the movie Roger Rabbit. He only faked them because he doesn't want to give his real ones. From now on, he will keep his journey with this disease private. "Words cannot express the deep regret that I have in fabricating documents to 'prove' to the world that I, in fact, have cancer. What I did was wrong and inexcusable. I acted alone, without Vicki [Gunvalson]'s knowledge, to produce documents for a reality TV show in hopes of putting doubts about my cancer to rest," Ayers told E! News in an exclusive statement Wednesday. "I never intended to disclose my actual medical records or details about my private and personal medical history, thus the rationalization of presenting documents that weren't true simply for a 'storyline' for the show." "From this day forward, my own personal journey with this disease will remain private as I initially intended over a year ago," Ayers continued. "My sincerest apologies to my family, friends, loved ones, and those who are battling this horrid disease for any additional pain and/or stress that I have caused. As [university of Louisville basketball coach] Rick Pitino once said, 'Mistakes can be good. They are fertilizer. Everything I've learned about coaching [life], I've learned from making mistakes.' I made a mistake yet I have learned a huge lesson as well." http://www.eonline.com/news/714608/brooks-ayers-breaks-silence-after-cancer-bombshell-reveal-and-apologizes-for-fabricating-medical-documents 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699544
Cherrio November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Thanks Cherrio for breaking the story about the no good snake Brooks. Wonder how Andy will include Brooks' confession on his show Thursday at 9 PM? I think Bravo Andy will have to come up with a totally new show? Vicki should have to appear live and be given sodium pentothal and then tell what really happened. Now, that would be a good I.V. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699585
Kerrey92 November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Didn't Vickie say that she was with Brooks at City of Hope while he got treatment? OMG! What a lying liar who lies! 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699592
Cherrio November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 The networks will have people following him to see where he goes, what he is doing and how much he is drinking. Everyone is watching you Girth ! BAHAAAAAAAAA 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699596
talula November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 I think Bravo Andy will have to come up with a totally new show? Vicki should have to appear live and be given sodium pentothal and then tell what really happened. Now, that would be a good I.V. Hehehe she could be laying on a hospital bed with the IV in her arm as Andy questions her and I still wouldn't believe a word she says. I know where's forgiveness for Vicki...duh I lost it! :-D 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699606
Cherrio November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Now Vicki should be investigated for insurance fraud and scams. I doubt whatever clients she has are thrilled with having bought policies from her. She has sullied both her kids reputations too. Bravo probably knew early on they were both lying and set it up so they could easily hang themselves. I knew the minute they did a close up on that Pet Scam they knew. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699625
AnnA November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 http://www.people.com/article/brooks-ayers-cancer-admits-fabricating-medical-documents (mods, if this is taboo, please delete) I am going to guess that Brooks got a very serious letter from the legal representation of City of Hope. I can think of no other reason that he would admit he is a liar and a con man. So, are you still going to sue Meghan Brooks? HA HA HA HA Thank you for finding and posting that link. It provided a bright spot in an otherwise gray and gloomy day. I think in light of the statement that just came out, as long as this doesn't turn into finger pointing and "I told you so's" it's fine to discuss. If you can't discuss it without sniping at each other, we'll step in. Thank you. Now that Brooks has admitted his documents were faked, there's nothing to snipe about unless someone claims that statement came from Brooks' doppelgänger. LOL Will there be a new thread for Brooks' interview with Andy and the Secrets Revealed (lost footage) that is on tomorrow night? I think Bravo Andy will have to come up with a totally new show? Vicki should have to appear live and be given sodium pentothal and then tell what really happened. Now, that would be a good I.V. It will be interesting to see if Andy adds a statement about Brooks' confessing to faking those documents. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699633
Cherrio November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Hehehe she could be laying on a hospital bed with the IV in her arm as Andy questions her and I still wouldn't believe a word she says. I know where's forgiveness for Vicki...duh I lost it! :-D I agree, I think she would have to be "Casino-ed" to tell the truth. Thank you for finding and posting that link. It provided a bright spot in an otherwise gray and gloomy day. Thank you. Now that Brooks has admitted his documents were faked, there's nothing to snipe about unless someone claims that statement came from Brooks' doppelgänger. LOL Will there be a new thread for Brooks' interview with Andy and the Secrets Revealed (lost footage) that is on tomorrow night? It will be interesting to see if Andy adds a statement about Brooks' confessing to faking those documents. Thanks Ann and Mya. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699636
talula November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 (edited) Will there be a new thread for Brooks' interview with Andy and the Secrets Revealed (lost footage) that is on tomorrow night?Yes, you can find it here -- http://forums.previously.tv/topic/34333-brooks-tells-all/#entry1698279Not sure about Secrets Revealed (Lost Footage). Edited November 11, 2015 by talula 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699677
Grneyedldy November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Good Lord, so now he's saying he DID fake the documents, but only because he wanted to shut people up? He is still maintaining that he does have cancer, but never had any intention of disclosing real medical records? Well, damn man, why not just have left it at that to begin with??? Does he actually think ANYONE believes a word coming out of his mouth??? Nope not even me :-D 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699683
islandgal140 November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 I want to get a look at Vicki's Big Brooks Binder of Medical Chicanery. You know the one that was tabbed and everything that she kept all his medical information, doctors names, appointments, treatment, tests, etc. Too bad they didn't use it to keep their lies straight. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699735
Satchels of gold November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 We may not be able to give an "I told you so " but I hope some posters moral compass and critical thinking skills lead them to do a mea culpa for refusing to move on and getting the thread locked down. 23 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699746
talula November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 I want to get a look at Vicki's Big Brooks Binder of Medical Chicanery. You know the one that was tabbed and everything that she kept all his medical information, doctors names, appointments, treatment, tests, etc. Too bad they didn't use it to keep their lies straight. I believe the binder Vicki spoke of was a figment of her imagination. Fabricated for her to mention to her RHOC cast mates who were suspicious about Brooks having cancer. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699772
Midnight Cheese November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 (edited) I want to get a look at Vicki's Big Brooks Binder of Medical Chicanery. You know the one that was tabbed and everything that she kept all his medical information, doctors names, appointments, treatment, tests, etc. Too bad they didn't use it to keep their lies straight. I always enjoy hearing some foolio like Vicki spell out a particularly detailed lie. "It had tabs and colors and..." I mean, WHUT. No, Icki. You are at least five facial surgeries into this life. Be about the 50something life*, not the 6 year old in trouble's way of life. AnnA, I love the idea of a Brooks doppleganger getting blamed. Fingers crossed that he gets this going for his next big interview! "It was my second cousin on my mama's side, he goes by Nooks, given name is David N. Ayers, his middle name's Nockingham, so, you know. Weird, huh? We kinda look alike, but he's been better at tooth retention." * Be an adult woman of your general age which is a good thing FFS. Admit that peri or menopause is either here or coming, relax on the tweaking, stop lying and act like you can learn something somtimes, treat people well, go up a size or two from your painted-on dresses...oh, it's just too much. Don't bother. Do you, Icki. Seriously, do you, because no sane man is coming near you again, so get comfortable with knowing a lot of probation officers in your exciting future dating life. ETA again: I actually feel ashamed insinuating that someone with a conviction would want to date Vicki. People can change but obviously Vicki's kind of man is Brooks -- she lied as much as he did! She deserves to be with a ne'er do well, not someone who actually changes his life after major mistakes. Edited November 11, 2015 by Midnight Cheese 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699855
Satchels of gold November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 I believe the binder Vicki spoke of was a figment of her imagination. Fabricated for her to mention to her RHOC cast mates who were suspicious about Brooks having cancer. Oh yea it was her way of being the "oh so involved significant other". Having a super organized trapper keeper fits in with her narrative of being the working woman busy 24 hr a day . It's a great example of how liars give far far too many details in order to sound convincing. And what about her claim of going to chemo and being in the waiting room? I'm pretty convinced that Vicki was in on the whole thing and hoped to make a buck off it. I'm finally really "getting" Brianna's all consuming hatred of Brooks. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699870
Midnight Cheese November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Yes ncsocialworker. I'm not a Brianna fan but it is also easier to hate Brooks than to admit even to herself that her mother knew very early. Brooks would not have had a platform for consistently mispronouncing 'resveratrol' or talking juices were it not for Vicki. Equal guilt. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699897
zoeysmom November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 (edited) Oh yea it was her way of being the "oh so involved significant other". Having a super organized trapper keeper fits in with her narrative of being the working woman busy 24 hr a day . It's a great example of how liars give far far too many details in order to sound convincing. And what about her claim of going to chemo and being in the waiting room? I'm pretty convinced that Vicki was in on the whole thing and hoped to make a buck off it. I'm finally really "getting" Brianna's all consuming hatred of Brooks. I am laughing at this because I swear I saw a clip where the very stoned on Xanax Vicki is self flagellating over being a bad girlfriend and not be on top of things with Brooks, she was disconnected. Problem is his Kool Aid chemo txs were in October December and January not during filming. Edited November 11, 2015 by zoeysmom 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699905
Snarky McSnarky November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 (edited) deleted. Edited November 12, 2015 by Bella Roche 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699907
talula November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 Oh yea it was her way of being the "oh so involved significant other". Having a super organized trapper keeper fits in with her narrative of being the working woman busy 24 hr a day . It's a great example of how liars give far far too many details in order to sound convincing. And what about her claim of going to chemo and being in the waiting room? I'm pretty convinced that Vicki was in on the whole thing and hoped to make a buck off it. I'm finally really "getting" Brianna's all consuming hatred of Brooks. I agree NC Socialworker Vicki lied about accompaning Brooks to chemo, lied about the binder, lied about him needing an IV for dehydration. I also believe Vicki was in on the whole thing from the get go. I know Briana has had a tough time on this board, but heck Vicki is her mom. :-( I have a new respect for Briana for sticking to her guns about what a piece of shit Brooks is for the last 4-years. She was, no doubt using RHOC this season for an intervention for her mom. Now if only Vicki will confess to the extent of her involvement and apologise to everyone especially Briana. IMO Vicki did the most harm to her daughter by not believing the horrendous things Brooks said to Briana. I can't begin to understand how a mother could be so unsupportive of her daughter and so easily under the spell of an sleezy operator like snakey Brooks. 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1699989
AnnA November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 We may not be able to give an "I told you so " but I hope some posters moral compass and critical thinking skills lead them to do a mea culpa for refusing to move on and getting the thread locked down. If I could "like" your post a thousand times, I would. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1700031
talula November 11, 2015 Share November 11, 2015 (edited) Brooks was nothing more than a parasite living off Vicki's weakness and neediness. She turned violently against anyone who questioned Brooks' cancer because she had a money making scheme tied to his illness and miraculous recovery story line, a million dollar Bravo pay check! Bravo threatened to demote her to part time status so she cooked up the storyline with Brooks. I hope I'm wrong, but everything is pointing in this direction. In addition, they were both working towards selling Club Detox products as his cancer cure. I wonder if menopause caused her to temporarily loose her mind or she's just a greedy shady person to begin with? Edited November 11, 2015 by talula 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1700057
OhGromit November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 Brooks was nothing more than a parasite living off Vicki's weakness and neediness. She turned violently against anyone who questioned Brooks' cancer because she had a money making scheme tied to his illness and miraculous recovery story line, a million dollar Bravo pay check! Bravo threatened to demote her to part time status so she cooked up the storyline with Brooks. I hope I'm wrong, but everything is pointing in this direction. In addition, they were both working towards selling Club Detox products as his cancer cure. I wonder if menopause caused her to temporarily loose her mind or she's just a greedy shady person to begin with? I somewhat agree except I think Vicki's desperation came from her incredible neediness/ fear of being alone. Bravo insisted that if she was with Brooks, she had to film with him-- so she also caved to Satan Andy in that respect. But I think the "storyline" came out of Brooks conning Vicki, Vicki not wanting to believe she was conned, Vicki hoping everyone would believe the con so she could keep pretending it was true and not break up with Brooks. Of course... this is territory we have all tread over, and over! And I doubt we'll ever know. Unless in Season 11... (cue sounds of me retching and running out of the room) 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1700190
WireWrap November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 Now Vicki should be investigated for insurance fraud and scams. I doubt whatever clients she has are thrilled with having bought policies from her. She has sullied both her kids reputations too. Bravo probably knew early on they were both lying and set it up so they could easily hang themselves. I knew the minute they did a close up on that Pet Scam they knew. I think production doubted Brooks/Vicki cancer story from the get go. Producton knows Vicki far better than we, the viewers, do and would have seen through her/their lies faster. Production has been revealing things to support this idea from the very start, Eddie saying BS, Vicki claiming she couldn't handle going to any treatments/chemo because she couldn't stand seeing him sick right before she went to Fl, then them kissing when she got back even though she had a bad cold (a BIG NO NO). The clues were there all along, all we had to do is follow the very clear trail production left for us. LOL I somewhat agree except I think Vicki's desperation came from her incredible neediness/ fear of being alone. Bravo insisted that if she was with Brooks, she had to film with him-- so she also caved to Satan Andy in that respect. But I think the "storyline" came out of Brooks conning Vicki, Vicki not wanting to believe she was conned, Vicki hoping everyone would believe the con so she could keep pretending it was true and not break up with Brooks. Of course... this is territory we have all tread over, and over! And I doubt we'll ever know. Unless in Season 11... (cue sounds of me retching and running out of the room) IMO, Vicki knew the truth from the get go or close to it because she was already lying in Oct, well before filming began. If she really thought he had cancer, there would have been no need for her to lie back then. I DO agree, that we will never learn the whole truth or even the whole story about Brooks/cancer/Vicki/lies. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1700194
Speechie November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 I don't know if this was discussed up thread, but I wonder if this mess will affect Vicki's business. IMHO, I wouldn't want to give my business to someone that was to say the least unable to see the truth. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1700324
Cherrio November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 I actually think we have known the whole truth all along. Sometimes its right there. It was all right there. While Brooks and Vicki were lying and shilling their stupid juice, everyone else was either questioning or telling each other about another lie. Besides Vicki and her most blatant lie, the City of Hope trip, she had already been scammed by Brooks once before with his Pancreatic scam. Do we really think she is going to fall for it again? No, but instead she/they tried to turn it into another epic fail business venture. Who knows how on the up and up Club Detox is, but if it is a real business, B and V could be facing another lawsuit. Like the Duggars, I think this is FAR from over, in fact I think the fallout has just begun. I said it months ago, but I bet by the end of it, Vicki will be cleaning toilets at (woo)Hooters or Andales. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1700344
zoeysmom November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 E! News not cutting Vicki any breaks. She is choking on her own words. http://www.eonline.com/news/715066/vicki-gunvalson-is-still-lying-about-brooks-ayers-6-times-she-didn-t-tell-the-truth-in-her-latest-interview 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1700501
zoeysmom November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 Does anyone believe Vicki was at City of Hope for four hours? http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/vicki-gunvalson-breaks-silence-on-brooks-ayers-confession-i-hate-him-20151111 That I am sorry to the girls--so bloody contrived and too little too late. Tell the truth woman. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1700532
zoeysmom November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 Apparently E's big story http://www.eonline.com/news/714583/rhoc-s-shannon-beador-tamra-judge-react-to-brooks-ayers-cancer-treatment-bombshell Vicki still in love with Brooks: http://www.eonline.com/news/714981/vicki-gunvalson-absolutely-still-in-love-with-brooks-ayers-even-after-he-lied-about-cancer-treatment 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1700562
nexxie November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 Vicki still in love with Brooks: http://www.eonline.com/news/714981/vicki-gunvalson-absolutely-still-in-love-with-brooks-ayers-even-after-he-lied-about-cancer-treatmentI'm thinking those two deserve each other. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1700635
WireWrap November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 Does anyone believe Vicki was at City of Hope for four hours? http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/vicki-gunvalson-breaks-silence-on-brooks-ayers-confession-i-hate-him-20151111 That I am sorry to the girls--so bloody contrived and too little too late. Tell the truth woman. Vicki can't ever admit to her complicity in this cancer lie, if she does, she is done, DONE! She will loose her insurance business and she will loose her job as an OC HW, Andy HATES to be made a fool of and this is as bad as it gets IMO. I don't see how he can bring her back next season as things stand now, let alone if she finially admits she knew either before filming began or just after it began. IMO, she is done on the show. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1700873
charming November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 This quote is why I think it will be difficult to ever look at Vicki the same. "If someone in the public followed his treatment and his cancer was faked, and that person died, then that would be heartbreaking and tragic." I don't care about "buyer beware" and all that. Even if just one desperate person believed what they saw on tv and decided to try Brooks juice treatment I don't know how Vicki or Brooks could possibly live with themselves. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1700897
SCS November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 I somewhat agree except I think Vicki's desperation came from her incredible neediness/ fear of being alone. Bravo insisted that if she was with Brooks, she had to film with him-- so she also caved to Satan Andy in that respect. But I think the "storyline" came out of Brooks conning Vicki, Vicki not wanting to believe she was conned, Vicki hoping everyone would believe the con so she could keep pretending it was true and not break up with Brooks. Of course... this is territory we have all tread over, and over! And I doubt we'll ever know. Unless in Season 11... (cue sounds of me retching and running out of the room) Hee, OG, (hey! another OG!) somewhere in the bowels of BravoTV, Andy and his minions are probably plotting out "Brooks Bounces Back". By then Sister Tamballs will have received an online degree as a preacher, with which she proseletyzes OC's fallen and backslid and guarantees herself a featured role. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1700932
Lucygirl2 November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 I was filling my sister in on the new developments wit the City of Hope statement & Brooks admission to faking the documents because although she watches the show, she is a full time nurse who doesn't have time to follow along with anything outside of being a viewer & she said after working 12 hours a day, day in & day out, & seeing actual people suffer, these 2 people just make me sick to stomach. I couldn't agree more & shame on Vicki for bringing that man onto our show 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1701041
Rina99 November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 I'm genuinely shocked that Brooks confessed to anything, although of course he still insists that he has cancer, though he'll keep it "private" from now on. I'm not shocked, however, that Vicki is still trying to lie and deflect her own culpability. Damn it, I'll have to watch that stupid special tomorrow just to see if any of this new info is edited in. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1701059
WireWrap November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 I'm genuinely shocked that Brooks confessed to anything, although of course he still insists that he has cancer, though he'll keep it "private" from now on. I'm not shocked, however, that Vicki is still trying to lie and deflect her own culpability. Damn it, I'll have to watch that stupid special tomorrow just to see if any of this new info is edited in. Since this "special" was filmed BEFORE Brooks told the truth, he is still lying IMO, Andy can have his mountian climber move up with each lie Brooks tells and then show it falling off the cliff at the end of the "interview" LOL 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1701181
Cherrio November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 I'm genuinely shocked that Brooks confessed to anything, although of course he still insists that he has cancer, though he'll keep it "private" from now on. I'm not shocked, however, that Vicki is still trying to lie and deflect her own culpability. Damn it, I'll have to watch that stupid special tomorrow just to see if any of this new info is edited in. I am certain he was threatened with some kind of legal action and that is the ONLY reason he confessed. On another note, which I mentioned earlier, doesn't look like asshole Girth ever made good on this threat to sue Meghan. She kept right on talking too. Con men frequently use threats and tantrums as a means to control. He could of had one hell of a slander suit when his ex was on 20/20 right? The only problem was is that she was telling the truth and it had all been vetted and found to be truthful. He ended up in jail. BAHAAAAAAA 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1701212
AnnA November 12, 2015 Share November 12, 2015 (edited) I think production doubted Brooks/Vicki cancer story from the get go. Producton knows Vicki far better than we, the viewers, do and would have seen through her/their lies faster. Production has been revealing things to support this idea from the very start... I think you're right. They kept giving us clues so we wouldn't be fooled into drinking any of the.... Edited November 12, 2015 by AnnA 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4986-vicki-gunvalson-her-love-tank-runneth-over/page/19/#findComment-1701374
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