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[WhoaWhoKnew]

So I'm watching the chiropractor marketing case. My mom and I are trying to decide if defendant Matthew Steffen is also Matt Moline aka Kathy Griffin's ex husband who stole money from her.

Edited August 26, 2017 by WhoaWhoKnew

[Guest]

2 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

if you don't want to pay to properly care for your pet, don't get any!

EXACTLY!!!! 

 

3 hours ago, Hockeymom said:

The defendant said repeatedly that she kept saying "You have to do this, or we have to do this". I think plaintiff was driving the train. She made the vet appointment, she went to the appointment, and approved the expense for surgery. 

Absolutely correct. However the Defendant abdicated her own personal responsibility by simply not saying, "No." While the Plaintiff may have driven the train, at any point the Defendant could have totally said, "You can stop now. I'm getting off." 

[Brattinella]

I would hate to tell you how much we have spent on our cat for medical stuff.  And she started out as a two-week-old kitten screaming in our yard.  Never any question as to taking her to the vet.  All our pets have had the very best medical care, I just can't understand NOT taking care of them.

[Mondrianyone]

2 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

Much ado about some 1200$ old POS beater (which the lying def. finally was forced to admit was the real price and which he sold to his very good friend with nearly a 100% markup) with a bum transmission.

This case made me think (not for the first time) about JJ's alleged "truth machine" abilities.  When the def first told his story, she told the plaintiff that what def had said was absolutely true.  Then the details started emerging--like how he stole at least $600 from plaintiff by inflating the real cost of the car--and suddenly the truth wasn't so true anymore.  I guess what I'm saying is that what looks like the truth one minute can pretty quickly morph into a convincing lie.  And that if you're (meaning JJ) the one who gets to "feel the truth through the hairs on the back of your neck" and you're also the one who gets to rule on what the truth is or isn't, the definition of truth and your vaunted abilities as an infallible truth detector are extremely subjective.

3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

A vet is out of the question for someone who can afford a computer and internet access and plenty of food yet can't take her suffering animal to a vet?

You forgot the very fetching (and presumably not cheap) chest tats.

2 hours ago, WhoaWhoKnew said:

So I'm watching the chiropractor marketing case. My mom and I are trying to decide if defendant Matthew Steffen is also Matt Moline aka Kathy Griffin's ex husband who stole money from her.

I Googled Moline, and I'm 99% sure they're not the same person.  I did learn, though, that Moline has lost lots of weight and graduated from Columbia.  I couldn't determine whether it was a legit division of the university or the School of General Studies, which is a kind of back-door way of saying you graduated from Columbia.  If he did it the hard way, good for him.

7 minutes ago, Brattinella said:

I would hate to tell you how much we have spent on our cat for medical stuff.  And she started out as a two-week-old kitten screaming in our yard.  Never any question as to taking her to the vet.  All our pets have had the very best medical care, I just can't understand NOT taking care of them.

Me neither.  My animals get medical care before I do.  I mean, I'm lucky that I don't have to choose, but there were times when I did have to prioritize, and I figure they can't get a job to pay their doctor bills, so they can get ahead of me in line, since I can sign a credit card.  At least I hope they can't use my card.

[AngelaHunter]

2 hours ago, Mondrianyone said:

You forgot the very fetching (and presumably not cheap) chest tats.

Luckily, I didn't watch long enough to see that. Remember the 50$ - 300$ per hour for tats. Why didn't she just pray for them? Well, we all have our priorities. 

2 hours ago, Mondrianyone said:

.  I guess what I'm saying is that what looks like the truth one minute can pretty quickly morph into a convincing lie.

I believed him at first. Turns out he's a liar who is able to lie with a very convincing and sincere affect. He's good at it! Probably had a lot of practice, peddling his pre-hated lemons.

Edited August 27, 2017 by AngelaHunter

[Mondrianyone]

I believed him at first, too.  But I don't claim to have those magical neck hairs that give me the power to zero in on liars every time.  It's her shtick, I get it, but sometimes it just annoys me.  And it never seems to deter people from lying to her.

Maybe if I made $40 mil a year, I bet I could afford to buy some of those truth hairs!  Where's that Powerball jackpot when you're trying to fight for truth and justice?!?

[AngelaHunter]

Finally had a chance to catch up (my renos are done at last and I still havent' figured out how to get Byrd or someone else to pay for them. I need to take lessons from our darling and resourceful litigants on how to do this.)

Anyway - chiropractor, overpayment of salary and guardian case: I can't say I enjoyed any of them. I have no idea who was scamming and lying, but I do think that a lot of what is wrong with the world today can be symbolized by Henry Plotz (or whatever), an overly-entitled, casually dishonest and overstuffed slacker type who is already a shameless liar at 21 years of age. Not excusing the plaintiff, who really wanted Henry to work for him.

Oh, wait! I lie. I did enjoy the trailer park tow job. I loved the plaintiff  - so picture-perfect with her waist-length gray hair - who took her 500lb(DId someone say he was 500lbs?) neighbour on his scooter to the tow yard so he could handcuff or tie himself to the tow yard gates in protest at plaintiff getting her unregistered and uninsured veeHICKle towed for the third time. She had cataracts, you see, so could never ever get her car registered or insured.

[AZChristian]

Not that he asked me . . . but if the guy with the nose ring, bad dreadlocks and sentence for anger-management classes can't figure out why he can't get a job, I could probably tell him.

[Hockeymom]

16 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

. but if the guy with the nose ring, bad dreadlocks and sentence for anger-management classes can't figure out why he can't get a job, I could probably tell him.

Those were the weirdest dreds ever!

He was a homicide waiting to happen. She was so sad. Even though they hadn't spoken in a year, she still seemed battered somehow. 

[SandyToes]

On ‎8‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 4:28 PM, AngelaHunter said:

I did enjoy the trailer park tow job. I loved the plaintiff  - so picture-perfect with her waist-length gray hair - who took her 500lb(DId someone say he was 500lbs?) neighbour on his scooter to the tow yard so he could handcuff or tie himself to the tow yard gates in protest at plaintiff getting her unregistered and uninsured veeHICKle towed for the third time. She had cataracts, you see, so could never ever get her car registered or insured.

This was a wacko case!  But fun.  She was somethin' else.

Not many episodes coming my way, as we are having a little issue with rain.   Sigh.  I look forward to living vicariously through this forum's expert analysis!!

[ItsHelloPattiagain]

29 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

Not that he asked me . . . but if the guy with the nose ring, bad dreadlocks and sentence for anger-management classes can't figure out why he can't get a job, I could probably tell him.

Oh man, nothing pisses me off more than a white guy with dreadlocks. I can understand if you're Jamaican as it's a cultural thing but I can't imagine how back Mr. Whack-a-Mole must have smelled. And I was watching the plaintiff's face and she looked so sad and defeated about halfway through the case. 

BTW I swear I heard Nose-Ring-around-the-Courtroom say he was working as a security guard. Between him and my ex-husband, I think they will hire anybody. And I'm hoping the court sees this guy and revokes his probation and puts his sorry butt in the pokey. 

(I need anger management after seeing this case)

[AngelaHunter]

29 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

but if the guy with the nose ring, bad dreadlocks and sentence for anger-management classes can't figure out why he can't get a job, I could probably tell him.

Ah, Ms. Benevidez: WTF? Like, seriously. Here is yet another women - they are legion it seems - who appears to be of normal intelligence, speaks well and has a few bucks and/or credit. What is her choice? It's Mr. Grieve (good name, BTW) an overgrown troll -  fugly, high-pitched, round-shouldered, blobby and brokeass zero with what looks like a bunch of turds hanging off his head and a ring in his nose. She found him so devastatingly irresistable that she paid his bail after he was arrested for beating her up and banging on her car ("But only on the hood!") As if all that isn't incomprehensible enough, it seems that ol' Turd Head had yet another women - one who wanted to breed with him.  The judge who ordered the Troll into anger management should have had the power to order Ms. Benevidez into counselling to find out why she feels she's worthless.

It was a comic relief to watch the rerun of the harridans Fox, Senior and Junior, suing the jug-eared, illiterate hillbilly, "Robert "Price" Ricketts" for all kinds of stupid shit. The harridan Junior Fox is a 32 year old woman who lives with Mommy and moves Ricketts (we know he was telling the truth because he's way too dumb to make up stories) into Mommy's house with her so they can bump uglies every night, sans birth control. She thinks that, despite the fact that they can't even afford a crappy apartment of their own that having a child with Bubba would be a capital idea. She also thinks there should be an equitable distribution of their dumb debts, just the way there would be if they were married, instead of playing house under Mommy's roof.

[Brattinella]

15 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

Ah, Ms. Benevidez: WTF? Like, seriously. Here is yet another women - they are legion it seems - who appears to be of normal intelligence, speaks well and has a few bucks and/or credit. What is her choice? It's Mr. Grieve (good name, BTW) an overgrown troll -  fugly, high-pitched, round-shouldered, blobby and brokeass zero with what looks like a bunch of turds hanging off his head and a ring in his nose. She found him so devastatingly irresistable that she paid his bail after he was arrested for beating her up and banging on her car ("But only on the hood!") As if all that isn't incomprehensible enough, it seems that ol' Turd Head had yet another women - one who wanted to breed with him.  The judge who ordered the Troll into anger management should have had the power to order Ms. Benevidez into counselling to find out why she feels she's worthless.

What a guy, huh?  And what is happening with the county who sentenced him to anger management?  No probation officer to hold him?  It was California, right?  I hope the agencies involved hear about and see this episode.

[basiltherat]

Nose Ring was my second half hour -- besides the dirt that seemed to be caked all over  his ugliness, I wanted so much to grab that m-f-ing ring and  P U L L hard!

My first half hour had JJ get bleeped in her chastising of Old Friend who was "helping" his many-decades friend "hide" her SS money.  JJ sicced herself and karma on his "friend"ly ass.  Has JJ ever been bleeped herself before?

[Brattinella]

2 hours ago, basiltherat said:

Nose Ring was my second half hour -- besides the dirt that seemed to be caked all over  his ugliness, I wanted so much to grab that m-f-ing ring and  P U L L hard!

My first half hour had JJ get bleeped in her chastising of Old Friend who was "helping" his many-decades friend "hide" her SS money.  JJ sicced herself and karma on his "friend"ly ass.  Has JJ ever been bleeped herself before?

Yeah, I think the word she said was "crap".

[DoctorK]

I remember JJ beeing bleeped once or twice before, but for one syllable words (most likely "crap"). I think Mr. Nose Ring got a special, it looked liked two syllables to me, I am guessing she really let go with "bull shit".

[AngelaHunter]

5 hours ago, DoctorK said:

I think Mr. Nose Ring got a special, it looked liked two syllables to me, I am guessing she really let go with "bull shit".

Really? Oh, god I hope so. Now I have to watch again, since I missed that particular kerfuffle.

[Spunkygal]

In a new episode today (dog bite case...yawn), they blurred the plaintiff's sleeve tats. Have they ever done that before?

[AngelaHunter]

14 minutes ago, Spunkygal said:

they blurred the plaintiff's sleeve tats. Have they ever done that before?

Hee! I've seen them cover nasty, vulgar tats with what looked like black electrical tape. I guess they've come into the modern age and blur that shit now.

[Guest]

On 8/27/2017 at 5:28 PM, AngelaHunter said:

Oh, wait! I lie. I did enjoy the trailer park tow job.

I read this sentence quickly and thought it said "trailer park blow job." And even that didn't so much as raise one of my eyebrows considering this is JJ and the thought that it would subject to litigation makes complete sense.

I enjoyed yesterday's case with the cheating, warring hillbillies suing each other over vee-hickle damages and miscellaneous restraining orders. I say "enjoy" because I always wondered what a descendent of the banjo player from Deliverance would look like. Evidently, he gets his fashion tips from watching reruns of Lock Up and is a product of generational incest because THOSE EYES. His irises weren't even centered! 

 The preview for today's episode looks horrifying: grandmother of deceased grandson suing his girlfriend over payment for his tombstone. 

[Guest]

12 hours ago, Giant Misfit said:

 The preview for today's episode looks horrifying: grandmother of deceased grandson suing his girlfriend over payment for his tombstone. 

Wow. 

When I saw the plaintiff I immediately thought of Mother Harper from the Carol Burnett Show and looked to see if Eunice Higgins was sitting in the witness chair with a black dress and white thick-strapped patent leather semi-heels.

If nothing else I am learning from JJ's show that there are way too many senior citizens with too much time on their hands and a hankering to appear on television. 

[Mondrianyone]

It's scary how many people are just wired wrong.  Or not wired at all.  Like that grandma.  She wanted to punish that girl for God knows what, and I don't think she's done trying yet.

I also don't get what the deal was with taking life insurance policies out on all her grandsons (not granddaughters, if there were any?).  How on earth would the boys benefit?  It feels weirdly like a lottery, where the payoff is that the young men die.

[Brattinella]

3 minutes ago, Mondrianyone said:

It's scary how many people are just wired wrong.  Or not wired at all.  Like that grandma.  She wanted to punish that girl for God knows what, and I don't think she's done trying yet.

I also don't get what the deal was with taking life insurance policies out on all her grandsons (not granddaughters, if there were any?).  How on earth would the boys benefit?  It feels weirdly like a lottery, where the payoff is that the young men die.

That lady was beyond scary.  The grandson HAD a headstone, two, in fact.  But grandma wanted his fiancee to PAY?  WTF?  Was she trying to punish the poor thing for her bf's suicide?  Just an awful thing.  And I thought suicide is (mostly) not covered by life insurance.

[Spunkygal]

i, too, thought suicide was exempted from life insurance benefits. 

How much porn watching is "too much?" How is that measured? And don't any of you say in inches! And Plaintiff is still with him! 

[ItsHelloPattiagain]

47 minutes ago, PsychoKlown said:

If nothing else I am learning from JJ's show that there are way too many senior citizens with too much time on their hands and a hankering to appear on television. 

I got home late and watched the second show FIRST and you are so right. I had Drunkety Eula and her fakety fake Lillie Pulitzer rip off dress who couldn't remember a thing about the case. She looked like she was one of those "ladies who lunch" from the 1960. Except she was a retired LAWYER. Perhaps a retired jailhouse/drunk tank lawyer. And which one of you noticed that the people who DRINK (water that is) are always guilty? 

PsychoKlown, I thought you were talking about Eula looking like Mother Harper and see, it pretty much fits any senior citizen case on JJ. 

In other semi-related news, I've noticed a trend - if you wanna finally get motivated to buy insurance, get into an accident.  Car or otherwise. I work in a pediatric orthopedic clinic and I've noticed how many kids don't have insurance until they get injured - then the parents are applying for Medicaid to cover what happened. Politics aside, if your kid is eligible, put them on some kind of insurance BEFORE they decide to break an arm back enough to require surgery. Thank you in advance. 

[Mondrianyone]

13 minutes ago, Brattinella said:

That lady was beyond scary.  The grandson HAD a headstone, two, in fact.  But grandma wanted his fiancee to PAY?  WTF?  Was she trying to punish the poor thing for her bf's suicide?  Just an awful thing.  And I thought suicide is (mostly) not covered by life insurance.

Did he take his own life?  That must have been mentioned when my husband came into the room to talk to me (the nerve!).  I wonder how that worked, because, I also thought suicide was precluded as a cause of death.

Slightly OT, but we watch a lot of Forensics Files around here, and we're constantly amazed by how many spouses take out huge life insurance policies on their other half just before that other half meets some sort of tragic "accidental" death.  And then it turns out that the victim never knew that the beneficiary had taken out the policy.  If it hasn't already been made into law, it should be:  Nobody can take out a policy that allows them to profit from another person's death without the verified knowledge of the insured.  It's the best motive for murder ever, and insane that it's actually allowed. 

[badhaggis]

A lot of policies do allow suicide after a time period. I work for a company that will pay out in the case of suicide if the policy has been in place for over two years. However every company is different.

[configdotsys]

Wow. Looks like Patricia Bean may have herself some competition with Miss There's a Dead Body on the Floor. Yikes. That was bizarro. 

The tombstone grandmother was a complete lunatic. She should hook up with that psycho father that took a picture of his son's body after the son committed suicide by jumping in front of a train, and then sending the picture to the guy's grieving wife telling her that it was her fault.

What is WRONG with people?

[AZChristian]

1.  It's fairly common on life insurance policies that there is a 2-year "non-payment" for suicides.  Keeps people from paying for a big policy just a couple of weeks before ending their own lives.  

2.  I got the feeling that grandma only had grandsons, not that she was shorting the granddaughters.  

But she was definitely nasty to the fiancee.  

[AngelaHunter]

22 minutes ago, configdotsys said:

Wow. Looks like Patricia Bean may have herself some competition with Miss There's a Dead Body on the Floor. Yikes. That was bizarro. 

Don't forget all the blood! Awesome. I thought the wide-eyed, blank Ashley and her potato-faced, porn-addicted boyfriend were bad, until we heard from Eula. It appears she suffers from delusions or DTs, since her story was beyond nutty. She thought plaintiff was murdered by the porn fiend, so she does what any of us would do:  she reached into the apartment (she didn't actually GO IN) and took plaintiff's boots? Is that what she said? So bizarre was her tale that I forgot all about her outfit, which consisted of a sleeveless mumu-type thing that she may want to rethink in the future. And what the hell was she chewing on? Her paramour? Heeeeheeeee! This is a world I'm thrilled never to have inhabited, but it's entertaining as hell.  "You need to stop drinking," JJ tells Eula. Ya think?

Plaintiff vs. Sylvia Jackson was much less interesting - just another overly entitled twerp who thinks everyone should care for her the way her mother does. I couldn't help thinking back to my rental days and wondering what would have been MY landlord's reaction if I had told him, "I"m only paying part of my rent this month. I need to save up to go on vacation with my boyfriend. You don't mind, right?"

Haven't reached Tombstone Grandma. I think I had enough TeeVee for one day.

[basiltherat]

Today was a two bag day.  While Drunken Landlady Eula was a hoot, Suicide's Grandma was a nasty old battleax.  You sue the poor young girl (certainly NOBODY was good enough for the grandson, even though he may have committed suicide/maybe because of drugs), but you don't even bother to check if the correct tombstone is in place.  Didn't Grandson have PARENTS you could have asked about the tombstone, when clearly, as the girl's pictures showed, the kid's dad was at the gravesite with the correct tombstone.  I guess none of her family talks to her, otherwise, why is she bothering the poor girl.  Girl needs to get a Restraining Order if Nasty Gran bothers her again.

I know I should call it a headstone, and now I'm very hungry for Tombstone pizza!  My bad.

[AuntiePam]

If my parents had taken out life insurance policies on my kids, I would have been afraid to leave the kids with them.  What's the point?  It doesn't benefit the grandchild.  Maybe it was one of those policies that can be turned into cash when the kid reaches a certain age.  ?? 

I was surprised that she changed the beneficiary when the grandson became engaged -- that's in her favor -- but not the rest.  She should be grateful that the fiance paid for the funeral -- it wasn't her responsibility. 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Mondrianyone said:

I also don't get what the deal was with taking life insurance policies out on all her grandsons (not granddaughters, if there were any?).  How on earth would the boys benefit?  It feels weirdly like a lottery, where the payoff is that the young men die.

Right? WHAT THE FUCK? Who takes out life insurance policies -- for crap amounts like $15,000 -- on four grandchildren for, as she explained it, HER RETIREMENT?! What kind of financial plan is THAT? Honestly, that case floored me. She was a depraved, ruthless human being. She actually admitted she hadn't really seen the grandson in, like, forever and only saw his gravesite on the day of his funeral. And the tombstone was FUCKING FREE! What was she suing that poor, sweet fiancee for?! Speaking of that sweet girl -- that, my friends, is how you deal with shitbags like Greedy Grandma - you cut your losses and move on. She was perfectly entitled to that money but gave up $5000 -- money she could certainly use -- but she didn't want to deal with that meddling sea hag anymore. And what does she get for that? Death threats. 

 

3 hours ago, Mondrianyone said:

Did he take his own life? 

That's what JJ said -- I think she was privy to more information about his passing than we were. I Googled him. Good looking young man. It's a shame. And by saying that, I've said more kind things about him than his own grandmother who saw him as a profit center and not a human being.

Edited August 31, 2017 by Guest

[Phoebe70]

I'm getting caught up on the episodes, so forgive me if this is an older one....

Yesterday I saw the episode with the older lady plantiff who's troubled grandson went to live with the defendants (who I think were step- or half-siblings of the grandson??).  The old lady paid the defendants $250 a month for rent but the grandson moved out early.  The old lady was suing for the rent, and stuff she bought him like a microwave, coffeepot, crockpot, etc.

Judge Judy was a real b*tch to the plaintiff.  The old lady brought her husband along and at one point the husband mentioned that there was also a 32" tv that the defendants kept.  Judge Judy snapped at him, "Why are you speaking?  Did I ask you to speak?"  She told the plaintiff that she could get all the stuff back (no rent though) if she paid the defendants $525 to ship the items (because the defendants didn't want her on their property).  $200 of the $525 was just for the tv....hello, it doesn't cost $200 to ship a 32" tv!!  The plaintiff mentioned the HDMI cables for the tv and Blu-ray player and JJ said something like, "What are HDMI cables?  I'm not giving you anything for those!"  Those cables aren't cheap...the ones I have for my devices are $20-30 each.

I can't understand why JJ was so crappy to the plaintiff.  I can understand her not awarding rent, because the grandson lived there 18 days...but why does the plaintiff have to pay $200 to get the tv shipped, when they could just meet up at the police station and make the exchange?

[khyber]

In my experience when a parent or grandparent buys a relatively small life insurance policy for the kid or grand-kid it is usually meant to pay for funeral expenses.  My step-father had a life insurance policy as a baby that his dad bought. Of course, in the 1920's I'm sure that a lot of infants did die.  

I really hated that old woman. The financee did pay for the funeral with the proceeds.

The alcoholic landlady ex-lawyer was just all kinds of sad. 

[funky-rat]

14 hours ago, Giant Misfit said:

Right? WHAT THE FUCK? Who takes out life insurance policies -- for crap amounts like $15,000 -- on four grandchildren for, as she explained it, HER RETIREMENT?! What kind of financial plan is THAT? Honestly, that case floored me. She was a depraved, ruthless human being. She actually admitted she hadn't really seen the grandson in, like, forever and only saw his gravesite on the day of his funeral. And the tombstone was FUCKING FREE! What was she suing that poor, sweet fiancee for?! Speaking of that sweet girl -- that, my friends, is how you deal with shitbags like Greedy Grandma - you cut your losses and move on. She was perfectly entitled to that money but gave up $5000 -- money she could certainly use -- but she didn't want to deal with that meddling sea hag anymore. And what does she get for that? Death threats. 

 

It may be one of those policies that if they're not used by a certain time, you can get the cash back.  I have an accident policy (after having a bad accident years ago on the property of a business that had barely any insurance) and a cancer insurance policy (it runs in my family - my mom has the same policy and it's great) and if I don't use them I get my payments back at certain intervals (like every 12 years or something - I'm coming up on the accident policy soon).

[Quof]

My mother bought life insurance on each of us when we were teens, something like $10,000 each.   I learned decades later she was still paying for them and insisted she surrender mine and take the couple of thousand dollars in cash value.  My brother's health makes it too expensive for him to get life insurance, so she kept the policy for him.  I suggested the least he could do was take over the premium payment.  Crickets.  

[swampkitty]

Today's episode featured two-time Catfish Jose - the famewhore gene runs deep in that one. 

[Brattinella]

I am SO on the homeowner's side re: Crepe Myrtles.  They DID miscommunicate, but NO ONE in their right mind would chop down two healthy crepe myrtles without a contract SET IN STONE.  30-yr old trees!

[Quof]

Jeezuz, the mush mouthed brothers with the stolen cigarettes and boiling water.

I can only imagine the intellectual discourse at that Thanksgiving table. 

[basiltherat]

Which one stuffs the other into the Thanksgiving Bird?  Which one gives the other the bird?  And why did JJ have to pick on Byrd?!

The "contract" in the tree case was one drawn with crayon on toilet paper -- just like Judge Marilyn suggests!  Wonder what she would think about this?

[AngelaHunter]

Okay, that's it. All these eps sound so compelling I must make time for them, but now I'm "inebriated"(but not yet "incarcerated") so don't know if that will make this better or worse to view. 

 

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That's what JJ said -- I think she was privy to more information about his passing than we were.

Of that I have no doubt. She knows way more than we do about the cases, which is why - IMO - she so often comes out armed for bear.

Edited September 1, 2017 by AngelaHunter

[Cobalt Stargazer]

4 hours ago, Quof said:

Jeezuz, the mush mouthed brothers with the stolen cigarettes and boiling water.

I can only imagine the intellectual discourse at that Thanksgiving table. 

And that half hour started off so well, with the two men who were well-dressed (with jackets and ties, no less!) and well spoken, the ones who were litigating because the defendant had written a book and the plaintiff translated it into Portuguese. But then the Moron Brothers showed up and it was back to business as usual.

[Spunkygal]

And how about the man now called Kristen who didn't pay friend for the car but paid for six months of insurance on it. Riiiigghht, Kristen. He couldn't leave his long locks alone. Loved the hallterview when plaintiff said He should get his own damn car!

[Cobalt Stargazer]

3 minutes ago, Spunkygal said:

And how about the man now called Kristen who didn't pay friend for the car but paid for six months of insurance on it.

I KNEW IT! I missed that part, but that voice gave it away and I just didn't want to ask "was that a woman who used to be a man?"

[AZChristian]

1 hour ago, Cobalt Stargazer said:

I KNEW IT! I missed that part, but that voice gave it away and I just didn't want to ask "was that a woman who used to be a man?"

I wondered, too. Something about the voice and hand movements just didn't seem natural.

[Spunkygal]

I thought Kristen looked and sounded like a character from In Living Color!

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Spunkygal said:

I thought Kristen looked and sounded like a character from In Living Color!

The voice made me wonder but then the exaggerated chicken neck movement sealed the deal for me.

I guess I'd categorize her as a handsome woman.

[Silver Raven]

Sometimes JJ really pisses me off.  Case in point, a rerun this morning.  A litigant's last name was "Williams-White", and JJ asked her, "You're Ms. White?" And the woman said "Williams-White."  And JJ said, "I'm not going to hyphenate that.  Do you want me to call you Williams or White?"  That is not your call, you freaking witch.  The woman's name is Williams-White.  Live with it.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Silver Raven said:

Sometimes JJ really pisses me off.  Case in point, a rerun this morning.  A litigant's last name was "Williams-White", and JJ asked her, "You're Ms. White?" And the woman said "Williams-White."  And JJ said, "I'm not going to hyphenate that.  Do you want me to call you Williams or White?"  That is not your call, you freaking witch.  The woman's name is Williams-White.  Live with it.

As someone who also has a hyphenated last name and who encounters issues on a weekly basis my first reaction would be to answer JJ "sure, you may call me WilliamsorWhite.  Close enough". 

Or she could have answered that legally her last name is Williams-White and since we're in a courtroom with fake books, fake gavel and yes, even a fake judge's chamber- could we at least keep one thing legal - my name.

Some people have issues with hyphenated names - probably because they don't understand it.  While spelling my name to a Physician Assistant she interrupted me when I said "hyphen" and said "do you mean dash?"  I looked, scrunched my face and said "yeah, dash".  The PA was quite pleased with herself thinking that she corrected me.

You can't fight stupid.