All Episodes Talk: All Rise

[AngelaHunter]

his Dead Brain Cells GF was over most likely tying on a few with his Dad.

 

She started to say something like that, but had to trail off as her brain just kept misfiring and she was unable to finish the thought. If she hadn't spent three hours knocking them back with Daddy Dearest, she might have thought of where she could find some pots to put the fish in or gone to the dollar store to buy some plastic bowls, e.g. Or maybe not.

 

I bet Dad's a treat when he's tying one on, considering how much of an asshole he is sober. But maybe I'm being unfair. If FishTank Boy were my son - 28 years old and a  useless doofus who can't think his way out of a phone booth - I might take up serious drinking myself.

[QuelleC]

 

Yet when this plaintiff said he had to leave for work, so he asked his gf to stop by after her shift to check on the leaky fishtank, JJ went ballistic. She said, you should have called into work 10 minutes late!

I thought the same thing, and that the girlfriend came over after her work shift.  You cannot be late for work these days.  At all.  They said it was a very large tank, it might have taken a while to drain it.  My tube is only about a quarter inch.

 

I'm glad she at least thought of using cups for the fish but she really needed bowls making sure to use the aquarium water which, if he was a good fishkeeper, would have been ph balanced with no chlorine and bowls would help maintain the temperature.  Most tapwater needs to be treated.  If you keep a tank you should always have a tube of aquarium cement for leaks.  But I think too much.

 

I wish he had mentioned a couple of types of fish he had.  If they were mollies or something, those are about a two bucks a piece.  Hopefully the cold water they were dumped into made it easier.  I've heard the best way to euthanize a fish is to put it in the freezer.

 

Damn I miss my aquarium.  I can't afford to keep one right now.

Edited October 16, 2014 by QuelleC

[Intocats]

Jeebus maybe I can get someone to pay $700 for a room in my house.

 Maybe you could, if you live in Silicon Valley! In the land of Google, Facebook and Apple Computer, studio apartments in sketchy areas rent for as much as $2000 per month. A nice place would cost a lot more. It's not unusual for people to rent out bedrooms in their homes for $700 or more. Just don't find your housemate on Craigslist!

[AngelaHunter]

If Daddy could pick up and carry that tank, it wasn't nearly big enough for 25 fish, no matter what kind. Son is just the type to think he's in a candy store when buying fish and just get whatever catches his eye. "Gimme three of those, and five of those..." No way is he smart enough to own a tank.

 

I've heard the best way to euthanize a fish is to put it in the freezer.

 

That's a common belief, but in fact it's considered inhumane.

[Intocats]

Daddy is just an ignorant, violent, low class drunk with a severely desperate girlfriend.

 

 

My take on FishTank Boy's girlfriend and Drunk Dad's fiancee is that they are both terrified -- of their rage-filled partners as well as of JJ. I hope there is a women's shelter in their town.

[QuelleC]

 

That's a common belief, but in fact it's considered inhumane.

That's cool.  But what would you do?  There are situations when people cool down lobsters and clams too. I could never put them into boiling water.

Edited October 16, 2014 by QuelleC

[Taeolas]

I can probably excuse the Fish Tank owner for leaving it as it was. While Judy didn't let him finish, it sounded like he was an emergency handler who had been called in. (Like a Power Line worker after a big storm); so that time of day with the need to get going, setting out the towels and having someone take care of it as soon as they could probably made the most sense at the time. 

 

His Girlfriend and Father though, both were Second Class Idiots. All the things they could have done but didn't; it's just boggling. (Lower the water level in the tank, move the fish to other containers earlier, dry the towels in a dryer so you can replace them; etc....). Sounded like most of the damage seemed to happen AFTER they started messing with the tank too.

[teebax]

I've never owned a fish tank, but I've siphoned water out of things. It wouldn't have taken that long for him to at least get the water level down below where the hole was. Not to mention, he should have done that prior to the day in question, anyway. Since he'd taped it previously, he hadn't even thought to just lower the water level until he could replace the tank?

 

That was one of those cases in which I despised every single person who spoke. 

[QuelleC]

 

A plaintiff on the show paid about $1400 for a car that was worth $1900, but Judy awarded her the $1400.

 

Because that's what her damages were.  If JJ had awarded  $1900 the plaintiff would have profited.  The goal of adjudication is to make one "whole". 

 

But I agree JJ isn't consistent.  If it had been a gift she'd have Byrd take an eternity to look up the Blue Book value.

 

I'd love to see if there's a collection of Blue Books behind Byrd.  There are several editions depending on whether the vehicle is vintage, etc.  They come out every 3 or 6 months IIRC.

Edited October 16, 2014 by QuelleC

[teebax]

 

Because that's what her damages were.  If JJ had awarded  $1900 the plaintiff would have profited.  The goal of adjudication is to make one "whole".

I don't think it's profiting. Making you whole is awarding you the value of your item at the time of the loss.  Profiting would be if she awarded $2,500 for a car worth $1,900. It doesn't come up often because cars depreciate. So by the time a car is totaled, it's usually worth less than the person pays. In these rare cases, yes, the wronged party gets a bit of a bonanza. That's just them getting the benefit of having made a good deal.

 

To put it a different way, if the other driver had liability on her car, the other driver's insurance would pay out fair market value, regardless of how much the plaintiff paid for the car.

 

Can I just say that I'm loving this discussion, though? One thing I like about this message board is that we can disagree respectfully and learn from one another. It's refreshing. Maybe JJ's litigants should join our board! We might be able to stop them from looking how they look on TV!

[Milz]

 

 Maybe JJ's litigants should join our board! We might be able to stop them from looking how they look on TV!

 

 

 

oh dear, I can see it now.

 

Newbie Won: "I borrowed this girl $500. And she kept avoiding me. So I saw her friend at Burger King and told her to tell her to give me back my money. Then a week latter I saw her friend again at Burger King and she told me that her friend will pay me back when she gets her tax refund or her student loan check, which ever comes first. I'm still waiting for that money."

 

Newbie Too: "First of all, he didn't borrow me money. He gifted it to me. Him and me were at the roller rink and we got to talking about this and that. Then he gave me $500. Then he had the nerve to go up to my friend at Burger King a month later and tell her that he's still waiting for me to give him his money back. And she was like, "Tell her yourself".  Second of all, I'm not on student loans and I don't get a tax refund so you know he's making it up. Anyhow, if I needed  money, I would just get it from my husband's settlement money because before he got incarcerated, he gave me power of attorney over the settlement money he gets for an accident he had ten years ago. Thirdly, I don't know why he's telling everyone on a Judge Judy forum our business. It's not like you all can force me to give him his money back!"

Edited October 16, 2014 by Milz

[Ouisch]

Oh, my word, that Fish Tank Girlfriend was making me crazy!! Is it so difficult to string together a cohesive timeline of events?! Strike that, rewind - is it that difficult to string together one cohesive sentence?! "Um, I got home around 5:15. And then they knew I needed towels. So then he threw the filter on the bed."

[Rick Kitchen]

It's silly that they make Byrd look cars up in a hard copy KBB when they can go online and get the updated version immediately.

[teebax]

It's silly that they make Byrd look cars up in a hard copy KBB when they can go online and get the updated version immediately.

I also question the validity of the physical book they're using. We've often had litigants come in with online printouts from KBB that didn't match.

 

Of course, who knows what other factors they're typing in to come up with it? They may be saying their 1990 Ford Escort only has 30,000 miles and is in perfection condition.

[WhoaWhoKnew]

They use the physical book because JJ is out of touch with reality, doesn't know how to use "that machine," and is stubborn as hell.

[27bored]

Damn, that was the Bad Ass Chullen hour, wasn't it? Shit. First case with Dora's cousin Diego breaking the little boy's arm was interesting. I...don't know that the 13-year-old was lying, per se. I think he fibbed a bit when he saw the other little boy was seriously hurt, he tried to save his own ass. I mean, eh. They'll be alright.

 

Second case: first of all, both the plaintiff and defendant had played out hairstyles. One had some plats that needed to be re-twisted and the other had a dusty ass 'fro. The latter's mother looked like she was 32. You can tell they're not hitting on shit by the hair.

 

Third case: solemn little boy scuffs mean lady's car and lies about it.

 

It's a good thing I never had to go on Judge Judy when I was a teenager. Because I was kiiiiind of a little shit. Like, I didn't give a fuck. I mean, I don't give many fucks now, but like, it was bad when I was a kid. The second she got loud with me I would've went off: "Bitch, let me tell you something. All that plastic surgery you've had, is that your face or somebody else's! The make-up they got from the Crayola people means your damn face is a lie! This studio that looks like a courtroom is a lie! This bored motherfucker standing right here is a damn lie! You ain't a real judge meaning your career is a lie! Everything about you is a lie and you want me to tell the truth?! Truthfully suck my balls, bitch!" 

Edited October 16, 2014 by 27bored

[One Tough Cookie]

What I really hated was how COMBATIVE Judy was with the plaintiff right out of the gate. Why? He seemed ok to me.

 

 

JJ usually gets pissed off when family members sue each other.  Especially in instances like this, when Sonny boy was renting an entire house for $300. 

[Brattinella]

I love how kids MOSTLY will tell the truth when faced with her withering stare.

Edited October 17, 2014 by Brattinella

[Jamoche]

When my car got totalled, my insurance company sent me a 30 page document listing other cars of that make/model year that had sold in my area, adjusted for the options I had and they didn't, to show that they were giving me the best price. It was rather higher than the KBB value.

[Quof]

The fact the vehicle was purchased for less than KBB shows that is market value.

[Oinky Boinky]

And of course we have had many instances (for certain on TPC) where someone has claimed a much lower price to fraud the sales tax. 

 

Let that be a lesson to you if you claim you only paid 1,000 for the 2,000 dollar car and are committing fraud that you only get back what you 'paid' for it.

 

Giving her what she paid for the vehicle (or says she paid) for the vehicle puts her exactly back where she was 2 minutes before she bought it and if she wants another bargain she can hunt for it.

[teebax]

When a car is totaled, you get fair market value for it. They don't ask you how much you paid for it. What you paid only come into consideration when there's gap insurance, which will pay the difference between what the insurance company pays and what you owe, up to a certain percentage. Some policies are written as stated amount, but that's usually for classic cars or high-valued vehicles. Most physical damage policies are written as Actual Cash Value. Again, this is not "how much a person paid" value. It's how much the thing is worth.

To use an example cited above, if my parents gift me a car, I paid $0 for it. But if you total my car, you're liable to me for the value of it. You don't get to pay me zero just because I paid zero, and If I found a bargain, you don't get the benefit of my bargain if you total my car.

JJ doesn't follow the law of any particular state. She follows her own code of common sense. She has decided that it makes sense to award a judgment for what someone paid for a car. That's not how it's done in the real world, which is why you take your chances when you go on a TV court show.

Edited October 17, 2014 by teebax

[Intocats]

Did anyone see the cell phone kerfuffle? Tavionne was quite calm and polite with JJ, but spitting on a friend's phone and breaking it? WTF? He admitted to spitting but not breaking. Mom had quite an attitude on her. It was visible even as she walked into the courtroom.

 

Tavionne knew he was in the wrong, and I think his mother did, too. But she didn't want to pay for the phone, and thought that if she copped enough 'tude, she wouldn't have to.

 

The lessons people teach their kids....

Edited October 17, 2014 by Intocats

[ItsHelloPattiagain]

 

Damn, that was the Bad Ass Chullen hour, wasn't it? Shit. First case with Dora's cousin Diego breaking the little boy's arm was interesting. I...don't know that the 13-year-old was lying, per se. I think he fibbed a bit when he saw the other little boy was seriously hurt, he tried to save his own ass. I mean, eh.

Did you see the x-rays? That kid's arm would have been visibly deformed and I imagine the big kid was freaked out. I was not feeling his father telling talking in the hallterview about "defending himself". As JJ says, she will be seeing him in the juvenile judicial system later with that attitude. 

 

 

Did anyone see the cell phone kerfuffle?

Tavionne and his puffball hairdo were just not believable. Who spits on a cell phone? His mama certainly had the crooked neck stare going at JJ. I was waiting for JJ to tell her to uncross her arms. They will be hanging in the hall with the Broken Arm Big Boy pretty soon. 

 

27Bored, I wonder if you would have been the bad ass you say you would have been in front of JJ. There's something about this teensy lady with the poofy hair and the scary glare in the black robe that just withers most kids. That said, I really like the way she handles kids in her courtroom - particularly the little boy who rode the bike into the van. She was just luring him right into a big hole and it was like shooting fish in a barrel. Even the parents realized it. 

[teebax]

I'm sure people have completely lost it on JJ and told her off in that way. They'd never air it, though! They're not paying her $47 million a year to let some litigant make her look bad.

[Ouisch]

Did you see the x-rays? That kid's arm would have been visibly deformed and I imagine the big kid was freaked out. I was not feeling his father telling talking in the hallterview about "defending himself". As JJ says, she will be seeing him in the juvenile judicial system later with that attitude.

 

 

Amen! That kid's father still saw nothing wrong with what his older, stronger, bully of a son did. "Football is an aggressive sport." Um, his kid wasn't invited into the game, he was a passerby who taunted a bunch of little kids!  "I taught him to defend himself." There's a difference between defending yourself when you're attacked, and deliberately stirring up trouble to provoke a fight.

[AngelaHunter]

"I borrowed this girl $500. And she kept avoiding me. So I saw her friend at Burger King and told her to tell her to give me back my money. Then a week latter I saw her friend again at Burger King and she told me that her friend will pay me back when she gets her tax refund or her student loan check, which ever comes first. I'm still waiting for that money."

 

Pretty good, bit it needs just a bit of editing.

 

"So basically I borrowed this girl, like, $500 and then, like, she kept, like, basically avoiding me. So then, like, I seen her friend at Burger King and I was all, like, tell her to give me back my money. A week later I basically seen her friend again at Burger King and she was all like, her friend will pay me back when she gets, like,  her blah blah blah....."

[Florinaldo]

I guess yesterday's kiddies double-header was intended to showcase JJ's abilities to get to the truth with children. As such, I think the demonstration was a failure.

 

What I saw instead was a display of her ability to gently browbeat children into agreeing with what she has decided must have occurred; no alternative version allowed. During one of the cases she said words to the effect that if a statement does not fit her view then it must be wrong; a rare moment of half-lucidiy where she almost acknowledged her totalitarian approach to testimony.

 

I did no get the impression that any of the children's versions was entirely truthful; I thought that the truth was probably somewhere in between, but JJ was not prepared to explore the possibility that the younger kids might be lying because in her view "You know when a teenager is lying?  Their lips move.", while of course pre-teens are pure as the driven and incapable of distorting facts. I think that quote is a prime example of the type of prejudices she works from.

 

As unlikeable as that mother appeared to be in the broken phone case, I applauded when she replied that what JJ was calling "common sense" is only her version of it. It's too bad we do not get more of those moments, but I suppose most litigants are only too happy to have found a way to resolve their case with no payments out of their own pockets and with a bonus free trip in most cases.

 

I used to think JJ was just another reality TV buffoon, but she is looking more and more like a loathsome bully.

[DoctorK]

 

Pretty good, bit it needs just a bit of editing.

Almost there AngelaHunter, but we still need a misuse of "presently" such as "I was presently there at the Burger King on that day."

[AngelaHunter]

I was just loitering waiting for a window of opportunity

 

Close, but no cigar.

 

"I was just loitering" = "I was chillin'/hangin' "

 

People, PLEASE stop buying cars from Craigslist or private individuals. If you insist on doing so, make sure the car isn't a 14 year old Grand Prix, and if you STILL insist on doing that, don't complain when something is wrong with it. That being said, the seller of said Grand Prix was a despicable worm and a "hustla!"

 

In the house rental case, I was so dazzled by the litigants' rare ability to speak English properly that it took me awhile to realize that the plaintiff was some sort of scammer. The home was rendered completely unlivable because of dust and a dirty lazy susan? I have to wonder what was the real reason for her backing out of agreement.

[Rick Kitchen]

Ungrateful pig of a son who wasn't satisfied that his mother gave him a loan for a car.  Disgusting person.

[Brattinella]

I don't know: if I had paid in excess of $2500 just in deposit money, and the agreement was that the house would be CLEAN, I would absolutely expect CLEAN.  Not an inch of dust covering the floors, no tarp on the roof (!) and no guck on the lazy susan.  That's a huge deposit, and that's what the deal was.

[DoctorK]

 

no tarp on the roof (!)

That bothered me, I find it hard to believe that the former tenant wanted less light in the room so they put a (cheap blue and not opaque) tarp over it on the outside, instead of tacking up a piece of opaque drape on the inside. However, it was pretty obvious and I am surprised that the plaintiff didn't notice this on a house she was going to sign a lease on.

[Brattinella]

The photo that showed the tarp on the roof was not a from-the-street view; it looked like maybe from the back or side yard.  Don't know, I would have done a thorough walk-around.

[27bored]

27Bored, I wonder if you would have been the bad ass you say you would have been in front of JJ. There's something about this teensy lady with the poofy hair and the scary glare in the black robe that just withers most kids. That said, I really like the way she handles kids in her courtroom - particularly the little boy who rode the bike into the van. She was just luring him right into a big hole and it was like shooting fish in a barrel. Even the parents realized it.

 

I don't want to talk shit about myself, but: yes. See, JJ is one of those people who hasn't been told to shut the fuck up in probably 30 years or better. That's why she's always coming out of pocket with people and has such a short fuse. It's why a lot of elderly people talk fucked up to people. When you're used to being able to say whatever you want, however you want, and nobody pipes up and tells you where to go, you kind of forget the power words have. Now, when I was more impulsive and immature, I would've gone in on her very quickly. I got in trouble any number of times because I had supposedly intimidating teachers who thought they could clown on me in front of other students. I'd talk shit back, get sent to the office and all that shit, but...hey? Maybe it was how I was raised. Maybe it's because I'm a Leo. Maybe it's because I didn't give a fuck. But fuck JJ. And by the way, I think her whole "that's a lie" accusation whenever somebody says something she doesn't believe is a challenge. If you just nod along she's convinced she's right. But she's old enough to know when people tell the truth, they're not easily accused of being liars. I would like more people to say "it's not a lie!" and see what happens. If you stand there like you're in the principal's office, she's going to carry on like the know-it-all she is.

[Toaster Strudel]

Grand Prix Repo guy was a piece of work.  At first he repo'd the day the payment was due... then he admitted it was a week before!  Oh, but she didn't have full coverage!  What's it to him, she had already paid $2300 on that piece of rolling scrap.  If she was still paying, who cares if she was using the car as a flower pot, or it had been totaled?

 

And he was countersuing for the repo?  The nerve!  Hustla indeed.

 

I wondered how many times he had sold that same car.

 

Did I say "car?"  I meant "vehicle."  I hope you understand my post now.

[teebax]

I don't know: if I had paid in excess of $2500 just in deposit money, and the agreement was that the house would be CLEAN, I would absolutely expect CLEAN.  Not an inch of dust covering the floors, no tarp on the roof (!) and no guck on the lazy susan.  That's a huge deposit, and that's what the deal was.

 

I agree with you about how the house should look, but I was okay with JJ's ruling on that case. It wouldn't have taken that long for the plaintiff to sweep up and wash the lazy Susan. The tarp is more troublesome, but that would require waiting to see if the landlord was being truthful. If the plaintiff had evidence of a leak, JJ may have ruled differently (although I think in that case the landlord should be given a chance to fix it).

Also, something was off about that plaintiff. I think the defendant dodged a bullet when she didn't move in after all. I can't put my finger on it, but there was something really weird about the plaintiff. In the hallterview, the defendant said she should have trusted her instincts and not offered the lease, so I think she got the same vibe I got.

 

Ungrateful pig of a son who wasn't satisfied that his mother gave him a loan for a car.  Disgusting person.

He was really an ass. He didn't even seem embarrassed about the vile names he called his mother when she told the story. On national TV, he wasn't embarrassed. She puts her life savings into a bakery so that her kids, who've clearly not done anything productive with their lives, could have a business opportunity, and he bites the hand that feeds him? This POS who has fathered seven children without regard to how he's going to support them gets an opportunity most people would kill for, and he behaves like an ingrate.

I wanted more background about that business. I would bet the mother started it because the kids were attempting to bleed her dry of all she'd worked for. It was said that she had bought (sorry, boughten) several cars for family members over the years. This is what leads me to believe he wasn't the only one mooching off of mama. At least her other kids were working in exchange for her generosity.

I don't always root for JJ to tell off a defendant. In this case, I wanted JJ to make him cry. And I wanted Byrd to punch him in the face.

[AngelaHunter]

This POS who has fathered seven children

 

For me, I think that was the most disturbing thing in this case. Yes, he and Mrs. Piggy are gross, bloated parasites, who can't even get their own hoopties and expect others to keep them in Big Macs, but the thought of those two making all those kids just gave me a  bad case of the creeping horrors.

 

 

[Ouisch]

I wanted more background about that business. I would bet the mother started it because the kids were attempting to bleed her dry of all she'd worked for. It was said that she had bought (sorry, boughten) several cars for family members over the years. This is what leads me to believe he wasn't the only one mooching off of mama.

 

 

I was torn on this case. Absolutely no love for grown man who is unable to provide for his seven offspring without mama's largesse, but mama also seemed a bit controlling.....the Sunday pool parties that she has every week and all the kids and their families attend. (Sounds almost like attendance is mandatory.) I sort of half-wondered if she'd kept the apron strings too tight over the years and that's why now her grown children have difficulty functioning on their own.

[teebax]

I was torn on this case. Absolutely no love for grown man who is unable to provide for his seven offspring without mama's largesse, but mama also seemed a bit controlling.....the Sunday pool parties that she has every week and all the kids and their families attend. (Sounds almost like attendance is mandatory.) I sort of half-wondered if she'd kept the apron strings too tight over the years and that's why now her grown children have difficulty functioning on their own.

Yeah, I can totally see that. Of course, on the other hand, no one can control you unless you let them. These are grown adults now, so if they want to be independent, there is a whole world out there they could escape to. At some point, shortcomings become something beyond Mommy's fault.

[Grandma Sheila]

Close, but no cigar.

 

"I was just loitering" = "I was chillin'/hangin' "

 

People, PLEASE stop buying cars from Craigslist or private individuals. If you insist on doing so, make sure the car isn't a 14 year old Grand Prix, and if you STILL insist on doing that, don't complain when something is wrong with it. That being said, the seller of said Grand Prix was a despicable worm and a "hustla!"

 

In the house rental case, I was so dazzled by the litigants' rare ability to speak English properly that it took me awhile to realize that the plaintiff was some sort of scammer. The home was rendered completely unlivable because of dust and a dirty lazy susan? I have to wonder what was the real reason for her backing out of agreement.

I agree about the vibe that the plaintiff was giving off.In a word: skeevy (if that is indeed a word).

Edited October 20, 2014 by CuriousParker

[Brattinella]

The plaintiff in that case, stewedsquash, was hollering that the defendant was a wife-beater.

[iwasish]

The mother of two juvenile delinquents... There are no words for her stupidity.

[WhoaWhoKnew]

The mother of two juvenile delinquents... There are no words for her stupidity.

I found it interesting that the only comment about her bad ass kids that she found offensive was that they didn't go to school.

[iwasish]

I found it interesting that the only comment about her bad ass kids that she found offensive was that they didn't go to school.

Well she did say in the hall ter view that even she didn't like them at times.

The dopey younger one was so proud of being suspended at least 20 times!!!!! It wasn't that they DIDN'T go to school, more that the SCHOOL didn't want them there.

[QuinnM]

The mother of two juvenile delinquents... There are no words for her stupidity.

OMG, what were their names again?  Where were they from.  Shouldn't the extra from Deliverance and mumbles mcgee be in  actual prison by now?  I need to look them up!

[zillabreeze]

 

Yet when this plaintiff said he had to leave for work, so he asked his gf to stop by after her shift to check on the leaky fishtank, JJ went ballistic. She said, you should have called into work 10 minutes late!

The TV got a loud WTF from me when she said that.  Even though the recession is supposedly "over" bosses watch tardiness like prison wardens.  For her to even suggest such a thing once again proves her vast removal from reality.

[Mindymoo]

I live in Ohio, and purchased a car from my brother two and a half years ago. I had my permit, but didn't get my license until this June. My wife drove the car until then, but they allowed me to register it, pay the taxes on it, get the stickers, etc. As long as I wasn't the one driving it without a licensed driver in the passenger seat, it was fine. I learned to drive in that car, and now it's all dandy. The law was the same when my brother bought his first car in 1997, when he had his permit, but couldn't get his license until 1998.

Edited October 19, 2014 by Mindy McIndy

[teebax]

Technically, you shouldn't be able to buy a car without a license because, at least in almost every state, you have to show proof of insurance in order to register a car. Most people get around this by being insured on someone else's policy. That really should only be done for people who live in the same household or dependent children who are away at school or in the military. This is what parents do when their teenagers start driving. It's what my folks did when I got my first car.

What we see a lot of on JJ is people insuring cars for friends, cousins, lovers, the dude on the corner that spins the Liberty Tax sign, the guy who delivers their pizza, their nephew's girlfriend's baby daddy, the cashier at Walmart who is always nice to them, and the list goes on. Insurance companies will happily collect premiums from them. But if a claim should arise, they'd better hope to God they don't get an adjuster with connected brain cells (TM Judge Milian). Because they've given them an excuse to deny the claim and they could even be charged with insurance fraud, which carries pretty stiff penalties.

[Mindymoo]

My parents had me under their insurance, with me being paying every month, so that's how I probably got around it.