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TheRealT

TheRealT

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Um, why is she the only one responsible for supporting everyone? What is Dean doing? As her "soulmate", he should know what to do. Of course, if Tori would just get rid of all the crap she has in the 25 storage units, they could probably have a very nice life. No wonder she's begging for toys.

http://www.eonline.com/news/732413/tori-spelling-sued-by-american-express-for-failing-to-pay-38-000-in-credit-card-debt

I hate both Tori and Dean, but if I were to defend Dean I would argue that Tori's financial aspirations are unrealistic for 99%+ of the population, so it's really not about him being willing to take on his share of the financial responsibility for their family in a reasonable way. I don't follow Dean's career, but I believe that he has brought in some money in recent years through Chopped Canada, the shows with Tori, guest acting appearances, etc. I'm sure he'd love to be on a hit show or in movies or whatever if he could do that to bring in more income (as would Tori), but that's largely not within his control. I think that "normal" people who earn a living in show business would probably be very happy with Dean's accomplishments/income and would have a scaled-down (compared to the Spelling-McDermotts) lifestyle and/or work in non-show biz jobs to supplement their income. As far as I know, Dean doesn't have any/many marketable skills or significant work experience outside of acting/hosting. In theory, he could get a job at Home Depot or something, but the money he would make there wouldn't even cover the cost of the multiple nannies Tori would require to support her while he wasn't around. With the money Dean makes, the money Tori makes (from the reality shows, endorsements on her blog or whatever, personal appearances, residuals from stuff she's done in the past, etc., etc.), and the money they can get out of Candy, they certainly bring in at least 6 figures a year. "Normal" people would consider that great money, especially if neither parent has to work full-time all year, but, in Tori's mind, they are living in abject poverty. I can totally understand Dean seeing that as her problem. Their kids are well fed, have more clothes/toys/etc. than most, go to private schools, have lived in nice homes throughout their lives, etc., etc. I can understand why he doesn't stress himself to bring in more money no matter what it takes (and really, what could he really do to make the kind of money Tori wants to have?) just because Tori feels like she is poor and suffering. As his "soulmate," she should know what to do (like maybe get rid of even half of her storage units) to bring in the money that they "so desperately need" to support their family.

 

Also, this.

 

The hosts were blasting Candy for being so rich while poor little Tori is struggling. I say bullshit to that, she's had plenty of money in her life and she blew it all on crap, why should Candy give her money? She'll just blow that too.

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Go, AE. You know it was $38,000 in stupid crap - or necessities she had to charge because she spent everything else on stupid crap.

I have no idea what Dean may or may not be making (and, yes, I know he shares responsibility for the legitimate needs of ALL of his children). I'm sure he has his own expensive tastes. But the bulk of the spending? The insane spending that takes place in that family? That's on blondie, from what we've seen and read.

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Maharincess

Maharincess

Shit, she could spend 38 thousand at the friggin Dollar Store.

I don't know how any grown ass adult could feel good about themselves when their mom is paying their way in life. I've been independent and paying my own way since I got pregnant as a teenager. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I had to rely on my mom to feed, clothe and shelter my kids.

Tori is pathetic.

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GaT

GaT

This article has the quotes from Candy

 

I’ve been helping her out, I’m paying all her bills now. I’m not paying extras like that. I’m not paying any back payments, just for the house and the kids school and the food.

All that is paid for & according to this, Tori tried to pay $1000.00 on her credit card & it bounced. If she can't come up with $1000.00 when her essentials like food & shelter are taken care of, they must be in pretty bad shape.

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Pdxblonde

Pdxblonde

Tori obviously has a spending problem and might be considered a shopaholic. I don't really have a problem with Candy paying her bills- it's her money and she can spend it how she chooses. Personally, I would have a difficult letting my mommy pay my way, but that's me. I also don't go and throw away $2500 at a time at the party store. But honestly, how can they not have ANY money?

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TheRealT

TheRealT

Tori doesn't feel bad about her mom paying her bills because, in Tori's mind, Candy is just giving her a small portion of what she's entitled to. She feels like Candy somehow cheated her out of one third (I guess) of Aaron Spelling's money when he died and that that betrayal (along with all the other horrible things Candy has done) is ruining Tori's and her kids' lives. I think Candy is a saint to even speak to her, much less give her any money. Despite the fact that Tori literally made a career of trashing her publicly for years, Candy has given Tori millions of dollars since Aaron died. I can't blame her AT ALL for refusing to pay for anything but essentials at this point. I loved the "no back payments" comment. You know that Tori, like any other fiending addict, has come to Candy with a million different sob stories about why she needs cash. It wouldn't surprise me if she tipped the media off about AMEX in hopes of getting Candy to pay the bill.

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Cosmic Muffin

Cosmic Muffin

Does anyone think that if her dad had left her 1/3 of his fortune that she wouldn't be in the exact same situation right now? If he'd left her 100% of his fortune, I think she would have run through it all long ago. I can't name a dollar amount that I think would sustain her her entire life.

 

Now, if there had been a trust somehow, maybe she'd still have some money, although she'd still be publicly complaining and trying to shame her dead dad and her living mother into supporting her in the manner in which she thinks she deserves. 

 

I wonder if she'd had access to unlimited wealth if she would have at some point realized that she's still miserable, and done anything about it? I doubt it, but the lack of millions has been what she blames for her unhappiness all this time. That, and Dean, whom she picked to marry.

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TheRealT

TheRealT

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Does anyone think that if her dad had left her 1/3 of his fortune that she wouldn't be in the exact same situation right now? If he'd left her 100% of his fortune, I think she would have run through it all long ago. I can't name a dollar amount that I think would sustain her her entire life.

 

Now, if there had been a trust somehow, maybe she'd still have some money, although she'd still be publicly complaining and trying to shame her dead dad and her living mother into supporting her in the manner in which she thinks she deserves. 

 

I wonder if she'd had access to unlimited wealth if she would have at some point realized that she's still miserable, and done anything about it? I doubt it, but the lack of millions has been what she blames for her unhappiness all this time. That, and Dean, whom she picked to marry.

Exactly. No amount of money would ever be enough for Tori because she's an addict and her shopping/spending problem is just a symptom of a larger network of problems. She has certainly blown eight figures or more throughout her adult life. The amount she spends is based on the amount she can get her hands on/get credit for, not a finite list of "needs." She doesn't even own a house at this point, despite running through millions and millions of dollars over the years. Her mother is paying for a series of expensive rentals for her because if Tori owns something with as much value as a house she liquidates it to buy clothes, party supplies, and whatever else as soon as she can. She is no different from a drug addict who spends every penny she can get on dope, so it would actually be bad parenting for Candy/Aaron to just hand her millions and millions of dollars. If anything, I think they've really helped her by "forcing" her to work for a living (at least part-time). If Tori had the money to just lie in bed whining and taking whatever pills she's into all the time, she'd probably be dead by now.

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TheRealT

TheRealT

I have to give Tori credit for somehow managing to get pretty regular media attention despite being largely unemployed and not doing anything particularly noteworthy. I thought this quote was interesting:

 

I knew Dean had a temper, and I didn't want that on camera, because that didn't serve us well. We were like America's sweetheart couple. Why would I do that? There were some things where I'd be like, 'You guys have to cut that out.' It seemed OK," she told Dunham. "It seemed like I was giving them enough that it was real, but I wasn't telling all the details that they'd be like, 'We're really disappointed in this relationship.'

I don't even know what to say of her thinking that she and Dean were "like America's sweetheart couple," given the incredibly sordid and public details of the origins of their "fairy tale" and the little fact that NEITHER OF THEM EVER HAS BEEN OR EVER WILL BE AMERICA'S SWEETHEART ANYTHING. I think it's fair to say that Tori is a somewhat iconic celebrity who was a main character on an iconic show (a couple of decades ago), but I don't think her brand has ever been "beloved by America." I always thought of her as sort of a joke, notable for being kind of unattractive, screwed up, and owing her whole career to her dad. I know that she has fans, but I would assume that people who like her think of her as "fabulous" or "fun/funny" or relatable because she has so many obvious flaws and insecurities despite being a rich celebrity, not "America's sweetheart." Dean's big introduction to the American public was as a guy who left his wife, young son, and infant daughter for a rich (he assumed) woman with whom he had been having an affair for a couple of weeks. She really thinks that "America" embraced the two of them and we were rooting for them because we were so taken in by their incredibly romantic story?!?! That we would be shocked and disappointed to find that they weren't really Love's Young Dream after all? Really?!?! She truly does not have one shred of self-awareness.

 

I was also struck by how she threw Dean under the bus AGAIN even though I think she really is trying to repair their brand as "America's sweetheart couple" and convince people that their marriage is better than ever. The problem she was afraid to reveal is how Dean has a temper problem. Nothing at all about her. She really is the sweetheart that America believes her to be. Dean is the one who's secretly imperfect. Similarly, with True Tori the only concern was how bad Dean would look. Obviously, the audience would sympathize with and admire Tori, but the show would have to reveal what an asshole Dean was in order to be real (which is such an important aspect of Tori's relationship with her fans!).

 

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/tori-spelling-says-daughter-shattered-170500427.html?ref=gs

This article about the interview with Lena Dunham details Tori's disturbing account of Stella finding out about Tori's recalled breast implants and how awkward it was for Tori to explain everything. Creatively, Tori managed to work in a dig about what horrible mom Candy was and how she's so much better.

 

The mother-of-four now makes a "conscious effort" not to pass down any bad parenting habits. "I just reminded myself every day that I'm not my mom," she said. "I'd think, 'What would make me different? What's my instinct of what would make that different?' My instinct was touch. I just wanted to hug her and hold her and tell her how beautiful she was and make eye contact."

I wonder whether she tells Stella how beautiful she is before or after she bleaches her hair? As long as she makes eye contact, I guess it doesn't matter. At least Stella isn't being subjected to the horror of being forced to wear pastel colors like Candy did to Tori! Tori still hasn't recovered from that appalling lack of appreciation for her natural beauty and the implicit suggestion that she needed to change her appearance in order to live up to her mother's beauty standards. She understands better than anyone how that destroys a child's self-esteem and sense of security, so she would never do anything twisted like bleach her kids' hair (to match her own) or put them in heavy makeup (to match her own), right?

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RealityCowgirl

RealityCowgirl

I'm sorry. Candy may not have been mother of the year. She may very well have been an absolute nightmare. But if she is literally paying for your family's existence (house, food, school qualifies for "literally" in this case, at least for me), you do not get to demonize her in a public setting like the Dunham interview.

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tabloidlover

tabloidlover

I'm sorry. Candy may not have been mother of the year. She may very well have been an absolute nightmare. But if she is literally paying for your family's existence (house, food, school qualifies for "literally" in this case, at least for me), you do not get to demonize her in a public setting like the Dunham interview.

THIS!!!   A thousand times, THIS!!  I was coming here to post this exact sentiment.

 

Tori - I am sure you are reading this, as I would put money on the fact that you have Google alert on every single electronic device you own (that your mother pays for).   Pay close attention here..... NEVER BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU!  In your case, this is literal.  Your mother is paying for your entire family's existence.  Were it not for her generosity, you would have no roof over your family's head, no food to feed them, no clothes to cover them.   Wake the fuck up!  Go get a job.  Dean needs to get a damn job too.  You decided to have 4 kids, it is your responsibility to take care of them.  You disgust me.

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tenativelyyours

tenativelyyours

THIS!!!   A thousand times, THIS!!  I was coming here to post this exact sentiment.

 

Tori - I am sure you are reading this, as I would put money on the fact that you have Google alert on every single electronic device you own (that your mother pays for).   Pay close attention here..... NEVER BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU!  In your case, this is literal.  Your mother is paying for your entire family's existence.  Were it not for her generosity, you would have no roof over your family's head, no food to feed them, no clothes to cover them.   Wake the fuck up!  Go get a job.  Dean needs to get a damn job too.  You decided to have 4 kids, it is your responsibility to take care of them.  You disgust me.

 

Sadly it is just a waiting game though.  I do think Candy probably was not a great mother.  And I think Aaron was probably a poor father.  But what I have read suggests that Candy is also a loyal and devoted grandmother.  She is not going to let those kids out to dry.  So that means all Tori and Dean have to do is wait until Candy dies.  Because even if Candy ties everything up in a tight ball of trusts and foundations, those kids will be taken care of in every way.  Because Candy knows that Tori and Dean will not do so themselves with employment or financial sense.  And what is more.  Tori knows Candy knows that.  Tori knows darn well that Candy considers her daughter a financial liability and a sinkhole of responsibility.  And that's okay.  Because of that safety net. 

 

So Tori can have it both ways.  She can go on and on about how much a victim she is thanks to her parents even as she relies completely on the bill paying that her mother performs.  Not just to maintain a certain type of existence but to continue to abuse with her spending.  Because at some point I am sure she rationalizes that anything she spends can be used as a threat against her children if it isn't paid.  I wish Candy would simply stop and then watch them scramble and fail.  I know that sounds harsh, but I think for the kids sake what Tori likely sees as compromise to getting what she wants eventually, ends up being enabling on Candy's part.  People like Tori have to be broken to keep them from sinking the roots of dysfunction into the people around them.

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TheRealT

TheRealT

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It's public knowledge (Is anything private with these people?) that Candy set up $10M (I think) trust funds for Liam and Stella which they will get at some point when they are adults. I would assume that she has done the same for her other grandchildren. I think that was a big part of Tori's and Dean's motivation to have a big family. Every kid is another $10M insurance policy for the future. Even if Candy doesn't leave Tori anything, she will be able to sponge off of her kids. Ditto for Dean. He knows that he's already set for life. The only way he'll ever truly struggle again is if he and Tori split up and he can't get alimony. Even then, he'd only have to ride out the lean years until Liam got his trust fund.

 

 

I do think Candy probably was not a great mother.  And I think Aaron was probably a poor father.  But what I have read suggests that Candy is also a loyal and devoted grandmother.

I believe that Candy wasn't a great mom, or, more to the point, that Tori didn't get the type or quantity of affection, attention, and support from her parents that she wanted/needed. Based on the things Tori has reported about the "unforgivable" things Candy has done to her, I think Candy was moderately to highly dysfunctional as a parent/person, but nowhere near the monster Tori sees her as. By Tori's own account, Candy spent time with her (probably way more than Aaron did) and Tori enjoyed some of the things they did together and the memories and traditions that they created. I believe the stuff about the weird dynamic with them competing for Aaron's attention, but, to me, that's the kind of thing that an adult (especially one with her own 86 storage units of issues) can at least begin to understand was not her mother's evil plot to ruin her life, but an unfortunate dynamic that developed among flawed human beings in a less than ideal situation. Candy has publicly owned her role in the competition thing and SHE PAYS ALL OF TORI'S BILLS. What else is she supposed to do?

 

Tori is an adult and she has to take responsibility for how she has lashed out at her mom for years, trashing her again and again in the media, keeping her away from her grandkids, doing anything she can to get money out of her, etc., etc., etc. It seems that what she wants is for her mom to give her some very large sum of money, but, in reality, that would not be in Tori's or her kids' best interests. Any rational person can see that, but Tori is irrational. Also, adult children aren't entitled to demand money from their parents (regardless of how much money their parents have) as compensation for whatever mistakes the parents made in raising them. And the thing is, Tori's parents HAVE given her millions of dollars while Aaron was alive and after his death. Not to mention a Hollywood career which enabled her to earn millions more. It's 100% on Tori that she has run through ALL of that money before she's even 50 years old. That kind of money would last most people several lifetimes.

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Bossa Nova

Bossa Nova

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Dying little Stella's hair that bleached blonde?

 

Just no. 

 

If challenged, I am sure Tori would justify it by saying:

 

1) Stella wanted to look like mommy.

2) It is temporary , and can be washed out, just like the makeup she had on.

3) It was only for fun and fantasy.

 

Still, no, just no. 

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Pdxblonde

Pdxblonde

Tori is now representing a psychic group.  She is one walking billboard.  She really has no idea what a mess she is with this constant selling of products, services, etc, that she does on her instagram, etc.  

OMG... just NO.... On one hand, at least she is "earning" some kind of money but does she even care HOW she is representing herself??

CodenameV

CodenameV

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So she's at it again with Jack posting innapropriate pictures. I guess he's trying to become famous using her, despite whatever he tweeted during True Tori. I love how Scout is defending both pictures, acting like there's nothing wrong with posing seductively with your step-mother. I mean, even if Jack is gay, this screams so wrong.

 

One of her instagram followers is taking bets she's going to do a show where she's cheating on Dean with Jack, or something like that. Lol, her instagram is either endorsements or stuff like this. 

 

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Also, she's moving again into another home in Encino. 

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RealityCowgirl

RealityCowgirl

WHY all the moving around? Maybe Candy should purchase a home for them, then they might be forced to stay someplace for more than 6 months at a time. Nice stability for your children there, Tori!

In theory, a fantastic idea. But you know what these idiots would do: sell it, blow the money on crap and be back at square one - homeless and banking on Candy to not let that happen.

Unless she buys it in her name, so they can't sell...

Hey, Candy, there's a suggestion for you. Or, better yet, make those two freaks live up to their adult responsibilities.

A girl can dream. ;)

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Bossa Nova

Bossa Nova

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From the Daily Mail article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3430815/Tori-Spelling-reality-star-packed-husband-Dean-McDermott-four-children-moved-7th-time-five-years-7-500-month-rental-Encino.html

 

"Since 20011 they've moved from Encino to Malibu to Thousand Oaks to Tarzana to Encino to Calabasas and now back to Encino"

 

"The reality star has packed up husband Dean McDermott and her four children and moved for the seventh time in five years"

 

That is just nuts. But I suspect there may be a correlation between Tori's hoarding and her constant moving. I suspect the changing of homes, for her, in some way is like acquiring more, and more, and more. It simulates that same feeling. (even though she is giving up one home for another). 

 

I swear, I don't understand how Dean tolerates this, or Candy. Maybe Dean is so easily cowed these years after his debacle. He may feel as though he has no right to say no anymore to her. Who knows. 

 

Re: the instagram with her stepson, Jack. Someone sent her this message:

 

"When she poses with her stepson, her attitude is exaggerated and inappropriate! Where are dean and the mother of this young man to reframe everything. Tory becareful, you're going a bit far "

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akr

akr

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I think she's doing what's called in recovery circles, "pulling a geographic" with each move. You change your surroundings in an attempt to make things right, when really what you need to change is not your surroundings, but your own approach to life. When you have a lot of money (ok, in her case, at this point it's her mother's money), you can keep trying this over and over again, continuing to hope that if you just find the right place/get things right this time, everything will be ok. But of course it won't be, because the stuff, the place, other people, etc., aren't the problem.

 

(I'm not saying she has a substance abuse issue, although she clearly has an adjustment to life problem - but it's one of the unsuccessful things people try to do to solve an alcohol or drug problem, or any other problem that's actually one that has to change from the inside, so you learn to recognize the pattern).

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Darknight

Darknight

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From the Daily Mail article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3430815/Tori-Spelling-reality-star-packed-husband-Dean-McDermott-four-children-moved-7th-time-five-years-7-500-month-rental-Encino.html

"Since 20011 they've moved from Encino to Malibu to Thousand Oaks to Tarzana to Encino to Calabasas and now back to Encino"

"The reality star has packed up husband Dean McDermott and her four children and moved for the seventh time in five years"

That is just nuts. But I suspect there may be a correlation between Tori's hoarding and her constant moving. I suspect the changing of homes, for her, in some way is like acquiring more, and more, and more. It simulates that same feeling. (even though she is giving up one home for another).

I swear, I don't understand how Dean tolerates this, or Candy. Maybe Dean is so easily cowed these years after his debacle. He may feel as though he has no right to say no anymore to her. Who knows.

Re: the instagram with her stepson, Jack. Someone sent her this message:

"When she poses with her stepson, her attitude is exaggerated and inappropriate! Where are dean and the mother of this young man to reframe everything. Tory becareful, you're going a bit far "

Dean divorce tori and take the kids

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Emme

Emme

I think she's doing what's called in recovery circles, "pulling a geographic" with each move. You change your surroundings in an attempt to make things right, when really what you need to change is not your surroundings, but your own approach to life. When you have a lot of money (ok, in her case, at this point it's her mother's money), you can keep trying this over and over again, continuing to hope that if you just find the right place/get things right this time, everything will be ok. But of course it won't be, because the stuff, the place, other people, etc., aren't the problem.

 

(I'm not saying she has a substance abuse issue, although she clearly has an adjustment to life problem - but it's one of the unsuccessful things people try to do to solve an alcohol or drug problem, or any other problem that's actually one that has to change from the inside, so you learn to recognize the pattern).

Exactly! She keeps moving, hoping for change. But people don't really change.

I've long thought she has a painkiller addiction. That's why all the hospitalizations, migraine treatments, etc.

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