blackwing August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 Popped in on this thread and been following the live posts, I'm trying to figure out the origin of the animosity towards China? I don't think they are drug cheats. Is it because people don't think the girls are all age-eligible? China got busted before so I am not sure they would do it again. I have several female Asian friends who are mid 40s who could easily pass for 25. So I have no issues believing that a 20 year old gymnast looks 10. Gymnasts are tiny to begin with, and add Asian genes into that, and I don't see why that automatically leads to assumptions they are cheating. Too bad about the last Chinese competitor falling. I'm sure she's crushed about it. But I'm happy that she and her team at least get a medal. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471826
DawnDavenport August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 Just now, Sew Sumi said: I'm keeping the feed open just in case. The announcers already singed off. They showed the Men's ceremony yesterday in a stream with Tanith White, John, and Courtney. I believe it takes a few minutes so just leave the stream open and it should start automatically. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471827
Dots And Stripes August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 Just now, Sew Sumi said: I'm keeping the feed open just in case. The announcers already singed off. They said something before about sticking around for medals and doing additional commentary. There is some medal ceremony on gold zone, so maybe it will be there? Why are you making this so difficult, NBC? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471828
Daisy August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Sew Sumi said: I'm keeping the feed open just in case. The announcers already singed off. what did they sing? ;-D 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471829
kittykat August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Minneapple said: I was really hoping Japan would get that bronze. And such a difference for Russia, in 2012 so upset over silver and this year being thrilled. Go USA! MURICA. I love the Russians being thrilled both today and yesterday. They really came back on that vault. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471831
galaxygirl76 August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 The Dutch reporters are so excited about the girls 7th place. It's so impressive because no one within the gymnastics federation gave any fucks about the girls and put all the money towards the mens team and now here they are 7th of the world. The Yuri van Gelder drama is the talk of the town. He broke the rules and got send home. It seems harsh but as more details get out(left the village, went to a club, got drunk, came back to village around 6am, loudly), they probably felt they didn't have a choice. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471835
Growsonwalls August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 Weird how the energy of one teammate can really change team dynamics. In 2012 Russia's star was the talented headcase Viktoria Komova who couldn't make it through a medal ceremony without a meltdown. She's no longer in the picture, so the Russian girls are just regular girls. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471837
Sew Sumi August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Daisy said: what did they sing? ;-D It's not 2am #oldskool :) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471839
DawnDavenport August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 Just now, blackwing said: Popped in on this thread and been following the live posts, I'm trying to figure out the origin of the animosity towards China? I don't think they are drug cheats. Is it because people don't think the girls are all age-eligible? China got busted before so I am not sure they would do it again. I have several female Asian friends who are mid 40s who could easily pass for 25. So I have no issues believing that a 20 year old gymnast looks 10. Gymnasts are tiny to begin with, and add Asian genes into that, and I don't see why that automatically leads to assumptions they are cheating. Too bad about the last Chinese competitor falling. I'm sure she's crushed about it. But I'm happy that she and her team at least get a medal. My animosity is mostly towards the men's teams. But overall, the both men and women are what I like to call code whores. They rack up difficulty on a a couple of events and don't bother as much with the others. The men seem to dominate rings and parallel bars and are usually just average. The men just seem entitle and they pout and whine when they don't win. The women are good to great on bars and beam but have not been able to keep up on vault and floor. Plus, my animosity is with the age falsifications with the women. It was a major issue in 2000, causing the team to be stripped of the team bronze and the rumors were just rampant in 2008 as well. It's not just a US thing either, other countries and federations have their doubts. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471844
DawnDavenport August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, galaxygirl76 said: The Dutch reporters are so excited about the girls 7th place. It's so impressive because no one within the gymnastics federation gave any fucks about the girls and put all the money towards the mens team and now here they are 7th of the world. The Yuri van Gelder drama is the talk of the town. He broke the rules and got send home. It seems harsh but as more details get out(left the village, went to a club, got drunk, came back to village around 6am, loudly), they probably felt they didn't have a choice. I read the article and he's also been suspended for cocaine use two times before. Definitely a toxic person to have around. Edited August 9, 2016 by DawnDavenport 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471852
Dots And Stripes August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 The NBC stream called the "Daily Dismount" is LIVE and they just said they're waiting for the medal ceremony, FYI. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471853
Cherpumple August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 The ceremony is starting (they're introducing the officials), so I hope you get to see it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471862
kittykat August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, PoshSprinkles said: For me, it's just the fact that their gymnastics (barring the women on bars and the men on still rings/parallel bars) for the past decade has looked awful, but they continue to get good scores and medal because they game the system by exploiting the code of points. Not to mention they continually get breaks on their execution scores whereas other countries are made to suffer. This is where I don't find them interesting either. I think the only team I really liked them was the men in 2008 led by Yang Wei and favorites like Li Xiopeng and Zou Kai. Like this year's US women, they were virtually unstoppable and had great gymnastics. But since then they've become one note and not very interesting. And their exploitation of CoP doesn't help either. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471868
Sew Sumi August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 Here we go. #TearsofBronze receiving their medals. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471875
EVS August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, Dots And Stripes said: The NBC stream called the "Daily Dismount" is LIVE and they just said they're waiting for the medal ceremony, FYI. Thanks! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471876
Cherpumple August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 Ugh, I can't stand the "bite your medal" pose! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471893
Elsydeon August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 To put it in perspective: The USA won by 8.2 points. The margin between 2-8 was 4.6 points. Were the Soviets ever that dominant as a team in their heyday? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471896
pivot August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said: Well I must say the Russian team is so ... not Russian. No tears, drama, or tantrums. Anyone remember the Viktoria Komova meltdowns? It's weird to see them making heart signs and happily cheering. I think that is because they knew they were damn lucky to even medal. Musty's floor routine is atrocious and they had a lot of mistakes. But, luckily China and Japan screwed up more. I'll take the Chinese team over the Russian team any day. The Russians get so many over scores with subpar gymnastics because of their legacy in gymnastics that it is painful to watch. I'd say this US team is the best ever. They have been consistent in not making mistakes. They have the highest difficulty scores and good form. No other team comes close IMO. Edited August 9, 2016 by pivot Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471924
EVS August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 (edited) Lauren not being able to contain her excitement during the medal ceremony was so great! She was beaming the whole time. I think that is what I like about her gymnastics as well. She just always looks like she's having a great time competing. Plus, I like her energy and showmanship. Edited August 9, 2016 by EVS Clarity 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2471990
KenyaJ August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 47 minutes ago, EVS said: Lauren not being able to contain her excitement during the medal ceremony was so great! She was beaming the whole time. She's just adorable. I want to put her in my pocket and make her be my best friend. Never mind that I'm old enough to be her mother. I'm so proud of the Final Five! It was a joy to watch them compete as a team, and I can't for AAs and the individual events. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472096
OSM Mom August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 It's pathetic that I get better coverage and commentary from reading this thread. You guys who are fortunate enough to be getting the live stream. I love you guys. NBC sucks balls and I won't see half of what you guys have. Would someone please give me their approved cable provider information so I could watch too? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472097
Daisy August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 1 minute ago, OSM Mom said: It's pathetic that I get better coverage and commentary from reading this thread. You guys who are fortunate enough to be getting the live stream. I love you guys. NBC sucks balls and I won't see half of what you guys have. Would someone please give me their approved cable provider information so I could watch too? if i could, i totally would :( (hugs) 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472100
OSM Mom August 9, 2016 Share August 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, Daisy said: if i could, i totally would :( (hugs) Thank you! ((hugs)) back. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472112
Daisy August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 OH hey, look. we're going straight to Gymnastics today. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472194
ExplainItAgain August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, Daisy said: OH hey, look. we're going straight to Gymnastics today. Probably for two rotations, then to swimming. Back to gymnastics at 11pm when swimming's over :P 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472212
Guest August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 (edited) Just finished watching the men's gymnastics from primetime on demand. NBC is so odd. I find only showing the USA so bizarre. But not only that, they multi cast on multiple networks and save events they might be interested in for primetime and when USA doesn't win won't show it anywhere. It seems like they used to focus on events everyone liked and expanded coverage on those because gymnastics was a draw, not just USA gymnastics. Personally, my tastes are a little lowbrow. If I were running NBC, men's gymnastics would have gotten put on Bravo. Focus on the vault of death, Ukraine scratching, certain teams falling apart. Then there would be a reunion show. Real Gymnasts of the OG. Quote The Yuri van Gelder drama is the talk of the town. He broke the rules and got send home. It seems harsh but as more details get out(left the village, went to a club, got drunk, came back to village around 6am, loudly), they probably felt they didn't have a choice. Seems harsh since USA basketball got caught by TMZ in a brothel. But they don't have to go back to the Village. They rented a yacht. Actually, cruise ship is a better description. Edited August 10, 2016 by ParadoxLost Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472218
Brattinella August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 She may be the best gymnast of all time, but she needs to get different eye makeup. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472227
Arynm August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, Daisy said: OH hey, look. we're going straight to Gymnastics today. Shocker. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472234
ExplainItAgain August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 Showing Aliya on bars! Glad I'm getting to see this. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472247
kittykat August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 Are they doing the whole thing or cutting to swimming in an hour? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472252
doodlebug August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 Just now, kittykat said: Are they doing the whole thing or cutting to swimming in an hour? We don't know yet. They're actually showing the Chinese doing their vaults, too; so it's already better coverage than expected. Not that I expected much. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472256
kittykat August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 I'm assuming they will show most of Russia, China and maybe even some of Japan along with the US and that's about it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472262
AuntieDiane6 August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 Quote NBC tried with the TripleCast PPV in, I think 1992, and it was a financial and critical failure because people back then wouldn't pay to see Olympic stuff. Sure we would have paid. However, NBC was charging something outrageous -- like $199 for 3 channels of coverage (one channel for gymnastics). I kept calling Time Warner and finally they cut the price down to $20 for one day. So I paid $20 to watch the women's team finals and THEN I found out that I could hear the audio on that channel for the rest of the Olympics. If NBC had started out with a REASONABLE price, it would have worked. I would love pay-per-view gymnastics. ONE NEGATIVE NOTE: Time Warner is showing gymnastics ON DEMAND. Unfortunately, their On Demand channels are now non-recordable. I burn DVDs of all the Olympic gymnastics and figure skating, so I am VERY disappointed. Now I'm stuck with crappy NBC primetime for my collection (which goes back to 1988). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472273
ExplainItAgain August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, kittykat said: Are they doing the whole thing or cutting to swimming in an hour? The first rotation conveniently took a half hour - so I'm guessing the second rotation will as well. Then it will be 9pm - that's when swimming starts. Not sure if they will switch over....but my guess is...yes. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472275
Dots And Stripes August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 1 minute ago, ExplainItAgain said: The first rotation conveniently took a half hour - so I'm guessing the second rotation will as well. Then it will be 9pm - that's when swimming starts. Not sure if they will switch over....but my guess is...yes. They mentioned Phelps have two races an hour apart, which means either an hour of racing or they'll cut back and forth. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472282
Daisy August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 There's a lot of "And There's Simone's Parents!!" and a lot of what makes a family. (me thinks Al is still getting from his douchery). 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472292
AuntieDiane6 August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 A new drinking game ... how many time NBC mentions Simone's PARENTS. Al, first. Then Nastia (with camera on Simone's parents): "Mom and Dad rooting for their daughter." 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472295
Daisy August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 1 minute ago, AuntieDiane6 said: A new drinking game ... how many time NBC mentions Simone's PARENTS. Al, first. Then Nastia (with camera on Simone's parents): "Mom and Dad rooting for their daughter." But I like my Liver. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472296
KenyaJ August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 Even if she wasn't, I'm going to pretend Nastia was shading Al by saying (as the camera focused on Ron and Nellie), "Mom and Dad, very proud of their daughter." LOL. I see you, Nastia. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472298
Arynm August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 I never noticed how negative the primetime announcers are until tonight. Maybe it's because I streamed the events and the announcers were so upbeat and positive. It's really jarring. I noticed when NBC showed Great Britain, not the part where Elissa Downie nailed her floor routine after landing on her head the day before, but the 5 seconds where she fell of the beam. And that's it. That was all they decided was fit to show us of GB. Seems so mean spirited. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472299
Growsonwalls August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 1 minute ago, KenyaJ said: Even if she wasn't, I'm going to pretend Nastia was shading Al by saying (as the camera focused on Ron and Nellie), "Mom and Dad, very proud of their daughter." LOL. I see you, Nastia. I have a game for how many times I think I "see" Nastia rolling her eyes at Al. Sometimes you can hear the exasperation in her voice. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472304
AuntieDiane6 August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 Quote Seems so mean spirited Not really. To the casual viewer, all these routines look alike. They either need to be spectacular (like high bar) or epic fails (like falls). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472308
Dots And Stripes August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 Al really is the worst. I like Tim and Nastia. NBC has like a million broadcasters in Rio. We can't get someone better for gymnastics? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472310
Daisy August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 I love Flavia. it's good to know that the United States only had to beat Russia, China, Downie and Flavia. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472315
AuntieDiane6 August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 Quote Al really is the worst. I like Tim and Nastia. NBC has like a million broadcasters in Rio. We can't get someone better for gymnastics? No. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472317
Chelsea girl August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 Yeah they haven't even shown Japan at all. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472322
Guest August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Arynm said: I never noticed how negative the primetime announcers are until tonight. Maybe it's because I streamed the events and the announcers were so upbeat and positive. It's really jarring. I noticed when NBC showed Great Britain, not the part where Elissa Downie nailed her floor routine after landing on her head the day before, but the 5 seconds where she fell of the beam. And that's it. That was all they decided was fit to show us of GB. Seems so mean spirited. I think the problem is that the announcers or producers are too committed to selling the narrative. Like how often their commentary during the event just happens to fit perfectly to the pre-recorded package they narrate. Monday is was Simone Biles overcomes being adopted by her grandparents until they got in trouble on twitter. Now the theme is the only chance other countries have is to be perfect and USA to screw up. So the opposite of that is all they show so the announcers seem knowledgeable and wise. Edited August 10, 2016 by ParadoxLost Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472325
Dots And Stripes August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 The grandparents thing was never a theme of Monday. That was just Al being an ass. As for everyone needing to be perfect, that's kind of a given after Team USA dominated qualifying. Storylines help for the audience, but pretending that it was a close competition for gold wouldn't have matched what was happening. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472339
Guest August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, Dots And Stripes said: The grandparents thing was never a theme of Monday. That was just Al being an ass. I agree he was being an ass. But I saw multiple packages and comments that were classic Simone Biles overcomes on the subject of her family. Which were all BS, but classic NBC 'everyone needs a tragic backstory that they overcame to be at the Olympics.' Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472365
ExplainItAgain August 10, 2016 Share August 10, 2016 Guys...how did they announce they were the "Final Five"? I was expecting tshirts or a banner or something...but I totally missed it, lol. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/21/#findComment-2472368
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