chitowngirl August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Since I only seem to catch up with gymnastics during the Olympics, when did they change the shape of the vault? I remember the "new" vault table in London, but was it much before that? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468185
Apocalypse Cow August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Why did none of the other American women go for the vault event finals? Didn't they score higher than some of the other women? RE: Aly's likability. I've never really liked her all that much, but she's definitely grown on me in competitions lately. I think she's genuine and hardworking. I loved her floor and thought her vault was amazing. All of Team USA seems to be a good group of girls. Laurie is an absolute doll, Simone is incredibly athletic, Gabby and Madison were stunning on bars. I love the diversity of the team, and the different strengths that each girl has. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468186
Rinaldo August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 I hope they checked out the men's vault equipment between Sunday and this afternoon. As was amply commented here, it was looking really questionable. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468210
chitowngirl August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 I remember Keri Strug's injury in 1996 and having to do her 2nd vault with an injured ankle. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468211
Jillibean August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 I like Aly. And I feel for her parents. I don't think their intention was ever to be shown on TV flailing--in fact, it looked like her mom sat somewhere else during Trials to avoid exactly that. I'm sure it's excruciating to watch, having no control, and wanting so badly for your child to succeed and get what they've been dreaming of and working for their whole lives, and you deal with that insane anxiety in the moment the way you deal with it. I can't imagine what my mom would look like in the stands under the same circumstances. However, I do want to give some attention to the under-sung Raisman family member, Aly's brother! It's sweet how excited he is when she nails a routine. You can see how much her whole family is behind her. Completely disgusted by Al's comments about Simone's family. So glad that Simone's coach called him out. Did anyone else catch in last night's coverage when someone's score came up, and Al said, "We haven't had a 15.8 yet!" Except that it was, like, a 15.68, not a 15.8, which he realized a second later and tried to cover by saying, "And this one is pretty close!" Oy. Also according to Simone's coach, Laurie DOES have an abdominal strain but has been receiving treatment and is obviously still competing. I wouldn't be surprised though, given that knowledge, if Martha sits her on bars and vault in the finals. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468240
FormerMod-a1 August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 I was trying to find a good compare and contrast, with pictures, of vault tables over the years and couldn't find quite what I was looking for. However, I did find this article about why the change. Slate article My question is, was it really the table that was an issue, or athletes pushing to do "too much". Not that I want anyone to get so injured, I was just wondering. Also, this article notes that most of the injuries were due to the table being at the wrong height, and the not the shape of it. So if a design like this can help athletes not get injured when things aren't set up quite right, that's really good. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468251
emma675 August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 A follow up question to you knowledgeable folks! What apparatus do the US men start on today? I'm getting my phone charged up and the app opened up early this time, since it was so hard to get during the women's competition yesterday. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468276
choclatechip45 August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 (edited) Al apologized through NBC sports. Still wish they would fire him just have Mike Tirico to replace him he's in Rio. Edited August 9, 2016 by choclatechip45 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468297
kittykat August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 (edited) Too little too late Troutdouche! I'm glad the US men got the Olympic Order to get Pommel Horse and Rings out the way; I hope Alex Naddour can pull in strong scores on both. Should be interesting to watch US and China back to back in the end since High Bar is normally the strongest for US and weakest for China. Edited August 8, 2016 by kittykat 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468323
Gurkel August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 2 hours ago, topanga said: What site again for live-streaming? I can't find the original post. NBC Stream Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468336
choclatechip45 August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Interesting how Al always refers to Yin as Dannel's father even though Yin is technically his stepfather. However he respects Danell enough to always call Yin his father on air. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468373
ExplainItAgain August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 (edited) Alright, athlete introductions. USA up on floor shortly! (China will do the first rotation, I believe. US after.) Edited August 8, 2016 by ExplainItAgain Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468375
Elsydeon August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 *shallow note* Jake Dalton's eyes are my everything! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468385
Rinaldo August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Weirdly, unless I looked away the camera caught all the team entrances except USA. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468386
greendog78 August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 I wish there was a four screen option so you didn't have pick what to watch and miss something. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468389
CeeBeeGee August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 On 8/3/2016 at 5:01 PM, choclatechip45 said: Simone went pro during the summer of 2015. I think it's a risk for every Olympic gymnast. Would Courtney Kupets, Sam Peszek or Bridget Sloan have made that much money going pro? I think Courtney Kupets would've made a ton of money if she'd gone pro. She was extremely marketable, IMO--perhaps the most marketable US gymnast since Moceanu and Retton. Huge smile, friendly and a genuinely good sport, national AA champion and individual Games medalist--she could've cleaned up. I think it's a testament to how much she still wanted to compete that she took the NCAA route instead. On 8/6/2016 at 6:47 PM, Black Knight said: Yes, I remember watching Sydney coverage, and the U.S. coach telling the person who had come around asking if anyone wanted to do their vault over that Kristen Maloney did not and Elise Ray did. And I vividly remember watching when Svetlana Khorkina, who as noted upthread had already blown it on bars in the interim, was approached to be informed about the vault. The announcer intoned, "And the news reaches Khorkina..." - and then NBC cut to commercial! Stupid NBC. Khorkina wasn't dubbed the Mad Stork for nothing, and I wanted to see her pitch the (deserved) fit she no doubt pitched. God, I was pissed about that. As much as I feel Raducan was ill-served, they ALL were because they didn't start the meet over. I don't necessarily think Raducan would've won the gold without the vault debacle--I think it was Khorkina's year. The whole thing just disgusted me, how the hell does something like this happen at the OLYMPICS?! I had friends over last night to watch Quals, friends who know nothing about the sport, and they were asking me about it and I said "the first thing is, we don't talk about Sydney." 18 hours ago, Growsonwalls said: Oh my god, so great to see Boguinskaya rocking that bitchface so many years later as coach. Love her. Who is Bogi coaching? 18 hours ago, DawnDavenport said: I don't remember completely but I think Josh Tesh wouldn't shut up about Shannon Miller's elbow screw in '92 and always referred to Tatiaa Gutsu as Odessa's Painted Bird, making her sound like some kind of hooker. It was years before I found out that was NOT an organic nickname, that NBC (or some non-Ukrainian/Unified person) came up with that. I just figured it was out of the same mold as Olga "the sparrow from Minsk" Korbut and Svetlana "the Belrussian Swan" Boguinskaya. And lest we forget, Tesh's Greatest Moments in Cheese must include the infamous "little girls dancing!" Shut Up Al needs to be fired for that tweet. Unbelievable, unprofessional and appalling. 16 hours ago, AuntieDiane6 said: Simone was already targeted at an earlier world championship by an Italian gymnast (who basically said Simone won because she was black). Simone took it all in stride. So effing ridiculous, Carlotta--as though you had ANY chance against Simone! On beam or anywhere else. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468400
Elsydeon August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, CeeBeeGee said: Who is Bogi coaching? Chuso. It's a double blast from the past. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468410
choclatechip45 August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, CeeBeeGee said: I think Courtney Kupets would've made a ton of money if she'd gone pro. She was extremely marketable, IMO--perhaps the most marketable US gymnast since Moceanu and Retton. Huge smile, friendly and a genuinely good sport, national AA champion and individual Games medalist--she could've cleaned up. I think it's a testament to how much she still wanted to compete that she took the NCAA route instead. God, I was pissed about that. As much as I feel Raducan was ill-served, they ALL were because they didn't start the meet over. I don't necessarily think Raducan would've won the gold without the vault debacle--I think it was Khorkina's year. The whole thing just disgusted me, how the hell does something like this happen at the OLYMPICS?! I had friends over last night to watch Quals, friends who know nothing about the sport, and they were asking me about it and I said "the first thing is, we don't talk about Sydney." Who is Bogi coaching? It was years before I found out that was NOT an organic nickname, that NBC (or some non-Ukrainian/Unified person) came up with that. I just figured it was out of the same mold as Olga "the sparrow from Minsk" Korbut and Svetlana "the Belrussian Swan" Boguinskaya. And lest we forget, Tesh's Greatest Moments in Cheese must include the infamous "little girls dancing!" Shut Up Al needs to be fired for that tweet. Unbelievable, unprofessional and appalling. So effing ridiculous, Carlotta--as though you had ANY chance against Simone! On beam or anywhere else. I read somewhere that Kupets parents said they expected her to earn a college scholarship for college gymnastics. Apparently they used her college fund to pay for gymnastics. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468411
emma675 August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 (edited) Yikes, Alex Naddour had a big fall and I think his hand went out of bounds. Not a good start. And now Mikulak is out of bounds on his first pass. Edited August 8, 2016 by emma675d 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468439
KenyaJ August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 This is not a promising start for Tea USA. Ugh. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468448
Growsonwalls August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Sam also went OOB too. Not a good start for them. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468449
Daisy August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Please please Japan win your gold medal. Please please please. Ukraine is looking really, really good. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468457
ExplainItAgain August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Jake did much better on the floor. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468465
bunnyblue August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Yikes, the Americans are not looking so good. I take it the Brazilian team must be on another apparatus as the US is on floor since I know the crowd isn't cheering wildly for their performance (so far). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468467
Daisy August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Oh. and I am gonna need to ask for a hug. Canada isn't in the team final. :( we can't tumble, y'all. (and looking at the AA list, if Ellie Black hadn't fallen off the beam, she could have been 3rd-4th hands down, because her beam is really good). that could be good in the AA, but who knows? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468468
ExplainItAgain August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 USA in last after 1 rotation. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468481
kittykat August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 GAHHH. Pommels and Rings are gonna be excruciating. I'm already at teeth biting down on hands. Great job Jake. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468482
emma675 August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 (edited) Okay, y'all, what's next? I hope the floor issues were just nerves. 8th place, ugh. And pommel, double ugh. Edited August 8, 2016 by emma675d Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468483
bunnyblue August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Where does team USA go after floor? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468484
Daisy August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Russia Germany Brazil GB Ukraine Japan China USA that's the standings after the first rotation 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468486
Arynm August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Oh dear, why do the guys seem to fall apart when it counts. Lets hope they can pull it together and not come in last at least. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468489
kittykat August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 US are on Pommel next. Then rings. The US always gains ground in the back half. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468490
greendog78 August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 1 minute ago, PoshSprinkles said: Why did Japan choose to leave Kaya Kazuma at home, again? Kazuma Kaya is probably in the stands right now since he was the alternate. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468496
Rinaldo August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 The worrying thing for US is that floor had been their best event in qualification. We must hope this was not their best score of the day today. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468497
Elsydeon August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Just now, kittykat said: US are on Pommel next. Then rings. The US always gains ground in the back half. Yeah, the US has always been shit on pommels. They've had a few guys over the years who are decent ring workers, but pommel horse has always been a bug a boo. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468499
Daisy August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 yah kohei! :D Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468502
ExplainItAgain August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Yeah, worrisome, but not time to panic yet. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468503
Daisy August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 LOL BBC lady "the USA is a very competitive nation." it just made me giggle hard. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468514
Elsydeon August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 1 minute ago, PoshSprinkles said: *cough* DONNELL WHITTENBERG *cough* That one still kills me. Wow, they managed to not completely fuck up on pommels for once. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468523
ExplainItAgain August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Naddour with a 14.633 on pommel, Sam beat him a bit. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468524
kittykat August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 (edited) Damn they're doing great on Pommel so far. Hopefully Floor was was the working out of the nerves. Edited August 8, 2016 by kittykat Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468526
greendog78 August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Japan needs to rethink how it puts it's team together. Koji really wasn't worth it. Kohei can get a 14.8 on rings on a bad day. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468534
KenyaJ August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Just now, kittykat said: Damn they're doing great on Pommel so far. Between this and floor exercises, I feel like our team has been replaced with another team. Like those Foldger's commercials back in the day. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468537
Rinaldo August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, Elsydeon said: Wow, they managed to not completely fuck up on pommels for once. That's about the way to put it, I think. I wish I'd seen some of it. (The commented stream, maybe figuring in advance that it would be embarrassing, looked elsewhere.) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468543
Gurkel August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 13 minutes ago, PoshSprinkles said: USA is headed to pommel horse with China. Why did Japan choose to leave Kaya Kazuma at home, again? You know he's out there chucking his laptop across the room after Koji fell off the pommel horse. Why is it called the pommel horse for the men? And is it supposed to shake the way it does? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468552
kittykat August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 43.699 total on PH which divided by 3 is an average of 14.566. That's awesome for the US. :-D 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468555
twoods August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 (edited) Damn this commented stream not showing the Americans. Now it's gone blank. At least I saw some of the Germans who are smoking hot. After 8th in qualifying they are doing pretty well. Edited August 8, 2016 by twoods 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468556
Daisy August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Just now, Gurkel said: Why is it called the pommel horse for the men? And is it supposed to shake the way it does? because the handles are called pommels. (that's my best guess) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468558
emma675 August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 Well, we survived pommel, now onto rings. Yeesh, I hope they can get better and more consistent as things move on. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468573
Daisy August 8, 2016 Share August 8, 2016 (edited) Standings After 2 rotations Russia Germany GBR Brazil Japan China USA Ukraine Edited August 8, 2016 by Daisy Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/45476-artistic-gymnastics-stick-the-landing/page/10/#findComment-2468578
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