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6 minutes ago, HumblePi said:

that's it, you win the Snark Comment of the Year award with that one.

Thank you but its been bothering me that I was so harsh. (yes, really) I just haven't liked her since we saw her nanny interviews. Reminded me of Alexis Bellino, who actually didn't bother me so quite much BUT Jules did because I got a sense that she was pretty nasty and dismissive, in general, to service people. Hope. I'm wrong.

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See, LIMOM, Jules is totally worthless...all things flow from that.

There are thousands and thousands of Jules-types in NYC.  I live surrounded by them.  They are SAHMs (and Jules now has some kind of product in at Whole Foods), and routinely have nanny and housekeeper help, some live-in.  I have none of that but it's not my reality.  Jules has been married for a long time to someone with substantial earnings, apparently.  Some couples have separate accounts, some have everything held jointly, and on and on.  Whatevs.   Like the sun rising you can always find people having a real vituperative attitude towards a perceived as spoiled SAHM.

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1 minute ago, Almost 3000 said:

Thank you but its been bothering me that I was so harsh. (yes, really) I just haven't liked her since we saw her nanny interviews. Reminded me of Alexis Bellino, who actually didn't bother me so quite much BUT Jules did because I got a sense that she was pretty nasty and dismissive, in general, to service people. Hope. I'm wrong.

I had no preconceptions of either Jules or Michael Wainstein, but from the start there seemed to be something askew. I had read before the first episode aired that Jules had dreamed about being one of the cast members.  Who does that really, what rich socialite, 'stay at home' mom actually has big dreams of being a cast member on the Real Housewives, particularly when they have obvious issues that they'd prefer to hide like anorexia and a philandering husband? Wasn't Julianne Wainstein almost inviting catastrophe by joining the cast? When I watched the first episode that she and Michael appeared in, I immediately thought, "this woman can't cook, can't make coffee, she's a terrible housekeeper, and needs a nanny even though she doesn't have her own business to run". so what exactly keeps Michael happy in that relationship? Those were my initial thoughts although I liked her and thought she had a young, sweet outlook towards the others, I couldn't help but wonder what kept their relationship moving forward. As it turns out it wasn't moving forward at all and there had possibly been many affairs that they've managed to sweep under the rug for the sake of the children. When sex is made to be the motivator and driving force behind a marriage, it's doomed. No marriage could survive forever based on sex. There has to be other things that bond a couple emotionally. Sex was part of Michael's every day life being a major player in the internet pornography business and I'm sure it was that way behind the closed doors of their apartment.  Michael had other sexual opportunities I'm sure and I don't imagine him as being the kind of guy that is able to resist them.

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9 minutes ago, Midnight Cheese said:

See, LIMOM, Jules is totally worthless...all things flow from that.

There are thousands and thousands of Jules-types in NYC.  I live surrounded by them.  They are SAHMs (and Jules now has some kind of product in at Whole Foods), and routinely have nanny and housekeeper help, some live-in.  I have none of that but it's not my reality.  Jules has been married for a long time to someone with substantial earnings, apparently.  Some couples have separate accounts, some have everything held jointly, and on and on.  Whatevs.   Like the sun rising you can always find people having a real vituperative attitude towards a perceived as spoiled SAHM.

He knew who she was when he married her and in their circle, she is not that unique, imo.

I don't think that she is worthless as she maintained her part of her marriage, imo.

He wanted a tall, pretty model like woman and she delivered. As far as having a staff, so what?

Who likes to clean up toilet bowls unless they have to?

The fact that he cheated with a lookalike and friend is nasty.

The jump off husband is also more attractive than Jules ex but seems just as sleazy.

Oh well, like attracts like...

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39 minutes ago, Almost 3000 said:

I googled but didn't find her. Can you help me out?

www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php/1044218-RHNY-Jules-Wainstein-Husband-Michael-Files-For-Divorce/pag

sorry, can't seem to manage to paste the pictures however I got all my info from this thread on Lipstick Alley.

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In case anyone missed it like I have, as to what exactly is the product that Jules hoped to promote being on the show, it's called 'Modern Alkeme'. Bravo did let her slip the name into an episode a few times but that's about all. It figures that Jules had something to sell, like they all do. Here's the website for Modern Alkeme. I assume it's a play on the word 'alchemy'

http://www.modernalkeme.com/

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1 hour ago, LIMOM said:

www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php/1044218-RHNY-Jules-Wainstein-Husband-Michael-Files-For-Divorce/pag

sorry, can't seem to manage to paste the pictures however I got all my info from this thread on Lipstick Alley.

Thanks, I usually don't click on sites I don't know but I wanted to see a pix and she does look somewhat like Jules!

Here's her wedding from 2010:

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50 minutes ago, Almost 3000 said:

Thanks, I usually don't click on sites I don't know but I wanted to see a pix and she does look somewhat like Jules!

Here's her wedding from 2010:

wow.

What an event!

What the fuck is so great about Michael the douchebag?

Told you, Elise is just a better  fed Jules, lol.

He does have a type. I can't believe that she is a legit psychologist, her pics on Social Media are more reminiscent of a Madison Profile/high end Escort than one of a Health Care professional.

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Here's Jules product that she actually got onto Whole Foods shelves. Have to say it looks a lot like a rived up Yolanda's Lemon Master Cleanse (which Yo after alllll that publicity never got a product out of it):

http://www.modernalkeme.com/

eta: Just noticed @HumblePi already posted but I really just wanted to say it sounded like a Master Cleanse

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4 minutes ago, Almost 3000 said:

Here's Jules product that she actually got onto Whole Foods shelves. Have to say it looks a lot like a rived up Yolanda's Lemon Master Cleanse (which Yo after alllll that publicity never got a product out of it):

http://www.modernalkeme.com/

 So she came on Real Housewives with a product to shill?

She is not so clueless after all....

And not for nothing, it was really courageous of her, to reveal that she actually suffers from anorexia instead of simply making up some inane bullshit like some others on the franchise.

Hopefully, she will bounce back, it looks like she has some strong support around her.

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18 hours ago, Umbelina said:

I'm wondering if any of the other wives knew, and also if any of them suspected about the money/bankruptcy stuff?  All of that said, the crowded little apartment without a bit of art, and the unfinished beach house are making more sense.

There's a blind item that suggests that her husband had an affair with some of the others on the show.  No idea if it's true or not.

 

The husband of this Real Housewife was busted for cheating. One of the women he was sleeping with is a current Housewife and the other is a former Housewife.
Show: "Real Housewives of New York City"
Couple: Jules and Michael Wainstein
Current Housewife: Sonja Morgan or Luann de Lesseps
Former Housewife: Kelly Killoren Bensimon

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5 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I think that most people would have cautioned her against filing bankruptcy for such a small amount, as the long-term harm to your credit (and even ability to get a job in some cases) is not worth any benefit that would come from discharging your debt. Still, it happens all the time. My cute hubby declared bankruptcy at 20 years old with around $15K in debt, because his family was horrified that he had any debt. When he suffered a major health crisis and could't work for several months, they convinced him that it would just be easier to declare bankruptcy and start fresh. There were more than enough lawyers around ready to help him with his cause, and as he later told me, no one told him that it wasn't the best idea in the world.  It was a huge mistake and followed him around for years and years (and of course me as well once we got married).

Oh I totally agree, bankrupcy is not something to take lightly. A friend's hubby declared bankrupcy due to a business failing and it did follow them for years. As they knew going in it would. It was hugely embarassing to them. Your poor hubby, that even his family didn't know that there are consequences to such a move. Which is another thing I find interesting about Jules. She implies that her own parents are well off (her comment about her mother never having to cook I think it was). Or maybe it is just that her father cooked rather than her mother? One wonders why they didn't warn her, but maybe to them it was no big deal.

Which brings me to her once again owing money that she is unwilling to pay. But she has money to start a business. Sad when it is considered no big deal to owe money and paying your debts is something to be applauded.

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LIMOM, I totally agree.  I think Jules is a pretty nice person, and I don't see her as a do-nothing worthless person at all.  I don't understand that perspective.  And if you're some hedge dude, and you've been married for 8 years and have 2 children, yeah, maybe help your SAH spouse pay for fees for an incredibly coveted apartment.  That is a great asset to have.  Just my opinion. 

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2 hours ago, Almost 3000 said:

Thanks, I usually don't click on sites I don't know but I wanted to see a pix and she does look somewhat like Jules!

Here's her wedding from 2010:

Thank you for the above link. I found the professional profile of Elyse Bensusan on the Linkedin website. There's not any photos of her online besides this one and her wedding photos, which only happened in 2010.

From her Linkedin professional profile;

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3 hours ago, Eater of Worlds said:

There's a blind item that suggests that her husband had an affair with some of the others on the show.  No idea if it's true or not.

 

The husband of this Real Housewife was busted for cheating. One of the women he was sleeping with is a current Housewife and the other is a former Housewife.
Show: "Real Housewives of New York City"
Couple: Jules and Michael Wainstein
Current Housewife: Sonja Morgan or Luann de Lesseps
Former Housewife: Kelly Killoren Bensimon

Wow.

I have to say, that wedding looked fabulous, I  loved the green in the flowers. 

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Are we sure this is a current Husband?  Could be Mario.  I'm certain he was banging Sonja Morgan around the time of the famous Moroccan Fortune-Teller.  And maybe Kelly.  I could see Kelly having an affair with him much more easily than Kelly having an affair with Micro-Michael.

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Does a man give up that sort of high-flying lifestyle along with the women, drugs and parties that go along with it just to settle down with one woman? 

As far as we know, he's not an actual producer of porn. That he/his company is an investor in porn websites doesn't at all mean that he's a participant in that kind of lifestyle.

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12 minutes ago, jaync said:

As far as we know, he's not an actual producer of porn. That he/his company is an investor in porn websites doesn't at all mean that he's a participant in that kind of lifestyle.

true but he sure masters the douchebag persona.

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On an almost unrelated subject.  Somehow it didn't occur to me until reading all this divorce stuff, but I just realized that that poor little boy will have to go through his entire life saddled with the name Jagger Wainstein.  It's almost like an R. Crumb character or something.  Probably the least of his problems right now, but still . . .

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2 hours ago, quaintirene said:

Are we sure this is a current Husband?  Could be Mario.  I'm certain he was banging Sonja Morgan around the time of the famous Moroccan Fortune-Teller.  And maybe Kelly.  I could see Kelly having an affair with him much more easily than Kelly having an affair with Micro-Michael.

My bet would be on Mario as well. I remember several times when Mario, Ramona and Sonja were together and Mario's body language strongly suggested to me that he was doing Sonja. I remember one pic I also saw where the three of them were together wearing bathing suits and Mario's back to was to Ramona and he was turned towards Sonja. Looked like he was with Sonja, not Ramona. As far as the past HW, Kelly seems like the obvious choice. Can't see any of the others offhand unless I am forgetting someone.

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Wow, I personally think Mario would bang anyone available, but if he did fuck Sonja it would certainly explain Ramona's impatience/frustration with her this season.  Maybe Ramona just found out?

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Yeah, Mario was clearly lusting after Sonja. I seriously hope that Sonja refrained from fucking that dog. For some reasons, I can"t imagine Bensimon being into Mario, he is too pedestrian for her.

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34 minutes ago, LIMOM said:

Yeah, Mario was clearly lusting after Sonja. I seriously hope that Sonja refrained from fucking that dog. For some reasons, I can"t imagine Bensimon being into Mario, he is too pedestrian for her.

Responded in the Ramonacoaster's thread.

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Okay I know this is out there.  But could Mario's former squeeze be Jill Zarin?  It was reasonably widely-reported that she fell out with her 'gay husband' Greg because she was stepping out on Bobby and that's why he basically disappeared from the show.  It wouldn't entirely surprise me that she could hook up with Mario.  I think he's the type who would bang a plughole if there was nothing else on offer.

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22 minutes ago, quaintirene said:

Okay I know this is out there.  But could Mario's former squeeze be Jill Zarin?  It was reasonably widely-reported that she fell out with her 'gay husband' Greg because she was stepping out on Bobby and that's why he basically disappeared from the show.  It wouldn't entirely surprise me that she could hook up with Mario.  I think he's the type who would bang a plughole if there was nothing else on offer.

Noooo!  I honestly can't see Jill and Mario hooking up.  Good lord, no. LOL  And because I'm a visual person, I went looking for pics of Mario and Jill together.  Couldn't find one of them alone - even from on set. 

But I did see this. Look at Mario's guns! And six pack!  Impressive. Dang.

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On 6/19/2016 at 10:56 AM, HumblePi said:

Michael Wainstein made his 'new' money with the start up an internet pornography website owned by a corporation in which he had controlling shares called 'NuWeb'. Michael and other partners of NuWeb had purchased several other web pornography sites to increase their business. Michael Wainstein and his business partners had filed a lawsuit in the State of Delaware in 2003 in which they sought to remove several of the board members in order to gain controlling shares of the company's stock.

http://courts.delaware.gov/OPINIONS/download.ASPx?ID=280

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=31957813

At the same time as the internet pornography website, Michael started a 'legitimate' investment group called Private Capital Group, or PCG for short. The company is a venture capitalist company which means they invest money into emerging companies in exchange for a share or piece of that business.

For me it all makes sense that Michael, having been an expert of sorts with pornography had become very familiar with many women along the way. Whether he was ever a faithful husband is doubtful in my mind. Does a man give up that sort of high-flying lifestyle along with the women, drugs and parties that go along with it just to settle down with one woman?  I suppose it's entirely possible but I don't find it credible.

Thank you for the explaination. Wonder if he's partners in porn with the guy who runs the www.purseforum.com? 

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On 6/20/2016 at 2:07 PM, jaync said:

As far as we know, he's not an actual producer of porn. That he/his company is an investor in porn websites doesn't at all mean that he's a participant in that kind of lifestyle.

We invest in small companies. What you invest in is a reflection of where your head is at. There are plenty of options to invest in. You don't need to invest in porn sights to make money.

He'd be considered an executive producer of porn since that title means who has put the money up to create the product.  

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The scene in the pizza store where Bethenny skinny shames Jules is just so reprehensible. Even Jules picked up on the vibe and said that Bethenny was hateful. To continually comment on her every move, question her weight, show over and over again how she struggled to take a bite of that gross pizza is just another scumbag move by Satan Andy and his chief demon Bethenny.

Look I am a fat bastard and I have the exact opposite problem. Do I  want people to guess my weight? To comment on how I come in from outside and push people out of the way when the pizza comes? Do I want them to comment when I stuff a whole piece in my mouth in one shot? 

NO!!!!!! A THOUSAND TIMES NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leave that skinny girl alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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15 minutes ago, Trooper York said:

The scene in the pizza store where Bethenny skinny shames Jules is just so reprehensible. Even Jules picked up on the vibe and said that Bethenny was hateful. To continually comment on her every move, question her weight, show over and over again how she struggled to take a bite of that gross pizza is just another scumbag move by Satan Andy and his chief demon Bethenny.

Look I am a fat bastard and I have the exact opposite problem. Do I  want people to guess my weight? To comment on how I come in from outside and push people out of the way when the pizza comes? Do I want them to comment when I stuff a whole piece in my mouth in one shot? 

NO!!!!!! A THOUSAND TIMES NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leave that skinny girl alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I felt bad for Jules when she was stuttering and Bethenny kept interrupting her telling her she need to use a verb.  First they pick on her eating disorder then it is speech situation.  Nice people.

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15 minutes ago, Trooper York said:

The scene in the pizza store where Bethenny skinny shames Jules is just so reprehensible. Even Jules picked up on the vibe and said that Bethenny was hateful. To continually comment on her every move, question her weight, show over and over again how she struggled to take a bite of that gross pizza is just another scumbag move by Satan Andy and his chief demon Bethenny.

Look I am a fat bastard and I have the exact opposite problem. Do I  want people to guess my weight? To comment on how I come in from outside and push people out of the way when the pizza comes? Do I want them to comment when I stuff a whole piece in my mouth in one shot? 

NO!!!!!! A THOUSAND TIMES NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leave that skinny girl alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Add onto Bethenny's repulsive behavior was her saying on her last WWHL visit, that she knew (during filming) that there were real problems in Jules's/Michael's marriage. If she even suspected that they were having marriage problems, why add to Jules's stress level, a real trigger for those battling an ED? Sick, really twisted sick behavior from Bethenny and from Carole.

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They just don't know that they are showing their true colors. Viewers are not stupid. The camera reveals who you really are. Editing can only do so much. It can load the dice. But you can tell who is a decent normal human being.

The next one I see on the Real Housewives will be the first one. Just sayn'

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We invest in small companies. What you invest in is a reflection of where your head is at.

Yes, but are you personally involved in the manufacturing of those companies' products, and/or hang out socially with its employees? (That was the insinuation of the original post to which I replied.)

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He'd be considered an executive producer of porn since that title means who has put the money up to create the product.  

Right, but we don't know if that's the case. It could be the website uploads porn from various sources, and isn't a creator of original content.

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5 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Add onto Bethenny's repulsive behavior was her saying on her last WWHL visit, that she knew (during filming) that there were real problems in Jules's/Michael's marriage. If she even suspected that they were having marriage problems, why add to Jules's stress level, a real trigger for those battling an ED? Sick, really twisted sick behavior from Bethenny and from Carole.

This is what she did to Kelly on Scary Island, too.  She KNEW Kelly was unraveling yet she engaged with her and then once Kelly flew over the cuckoo's nest, Beth celebrated. Bethenny was pregnant at the time so she can't blame her cruel behavior on her fibroids and buckets o' blood.

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33 minutes ago, ryebread said:

This is what she did to Kelly on Scary Island, too.  She KNEW Kelly was unraveling yet she engaged with her and then once Kelly flew over the cuckoo's nest, Beth celebrated. Bethenny was pregnant at the time so she can't blame her cruel behavior on her fibroids and buckets o' blood.

I think Bethenny always has to prove she is right, even at the expense of others. I suspect she would have blamed pregnancy hormones and the stress of a "high risk pregnancy" had she thought of it because nothing is ever her fault. Someone else always drives her to do/say whatever nasty/mean things she does/says or it is because of her childhood/parents. It is never because she is a nasty, angry, selfish, self destructive, jealous, mean/spiteful person in her mind.

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8 hours ago, ryebread said:

This is what she did to Kelly on Scary Island, too.  She KNEW Kelly was unraveling yet she engaged with her and then once Kelly flew over the cuckoo's nest, Beth celebrated. Bethenny was pregnant at the time so she can't blame her cruel behavior on her fibroids and buckets o' blood.

Kelly was the one pushing B's buttons on scary island, not the other way around. Cook not chef, ho-bag, why are you here after your father just died?, and so on. Bethenny didn't go off on Kelly until the dinner and Kelly deserved it. Once EVERYONE realized Kelly was losing it, they backed off.

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Kelly was the one pushing B's buttons on scary island, not the other way around. Cook not chef, ho-bag, why are you here after your father just died?, and so on. Bethenny didn't go off on Kelly until the dinner

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and Kelly deserved it.

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Once EVERYONE realized Kelly was losing it, they backed off.

STRONGLY disagree.

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18 minutes ago, Grneyedldy said:

Kelly was the one pushing B's buttons on scary island, not the other way around. Cook not chef, ho-bag, why are you here after your father just died?, and so on. Bethenny didn't go off on Kelly until the dinner and Kelly deserved it. Once EVERYONE realized Kelly was losing it, they backed off.

Why was B there since her father just died? 

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4 minutes ago, snowblossom2 said:

Why was B there since her father just died? 

Why was she there when they said her pregnancy was "high risk"? I get wanting to reduce her stress level after her fathers death by relaxing at the beach but pick a beach closer to home and closer to your OBGYN/hospital.

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Early on when they started talking about Jill, Kelly started to be very uncomfortable.  Who really cares about Gummi Bears?  It is okay for someone to make a misstatement and let it pass.  When Kelly first got to St. John's she was quite happy and I think she felt like she was a target.  And she was.  As it relates to Jules, Bethenny knows Jules freezes up when she is talking to her and won't let her finish.  Granted it is five seconds Bethenny won't get back when Jules stutters and hesitates but it does help Jules one bit when Bethenny starts making fun of her of saying things like, "you need a verb."  It is plain mean.

In retrospect I understood what Kelly was saying about chef vs. cook and she should have left it alone.  Kelly had been hanging out with Sam Talbot, who is a chef.  I think Kelly believed that chefs, cheffed for a living and she had not seen that side of Bethenny.   She was thinking restaurant and Bethenny was off to her margarita empire by they time the went to Scary Island.   

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Bethenny likes sitting on her high horse and watching people struggle.  If people annoy her that much, she should do what I would do if I had her money - make sure you see as little of people as possible, lol

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Jules is probably Asian and Jewish, at the same time.

I know it's simple to blame one party when a marriage goes south, but there was something wrong with that household from the get go.

One of the first danger signs are people that brag about being inept when it comes to basic household chores.  I once dated a woman who bragged about NOT being able to cook - no, I wasn't looking for someone to slave away in the kitchen, but I got tired of cooking or eating out. No, not all woman are or should be domestic divas, but then again, not all women should be parents, too?  It was easy to see that that household wasn't firing on all cylinders.

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I am sure that Jules in no day at the beach. But you sign on to that when you marry an hot air head. Think Sonja Morgan. 

The way they introduced her was strange. It almost sounded like this Dude groomed her to be his eye candy. He wanted an exotic model type  who was  Kosher. Obviously to satisfy his parents who probably held the purse strings at the time. So it is not a surprise that they are getting a divorce. It is only a surprise that it lasted this long.

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On 6/20/2016 at 0:57 PM, LIMOM said:

 So she came on Real Housewives with a product to shill?

She is not so clueless after all....

And not for nothing, it was really courageous of her, to reveal that she actually suffers from anorexia instead of simply making up some inane bullshit like some others on the franchise.

Hopefully, she will bounce back, it looks like she has some strong support around her.

Didn't Jules imply that she's smarter than she lets on or something to that effect? If so, Chica's antennae was pinging that evil was afoot and she wanted documented footage that she was helpless/ the damsel in distress in order to get the courts to assist her in maintaining her in the manner she was accustomed to.

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She didn't limit her disease revelation to anorexia, she said something like "if you can name it, I had it."  So, all of them.

Actually, you can change the had to "have" because she said it's like any other addiction, you are never cured. 

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