Sake614 January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 so the extra 10 minutes of Thursday's GH is up, and they cut the best part of the whole damn show! http://abc.go.com/shows/general-hospital/episode-guide/2016-01/07-thursday-january-7-2016-extended-cut Starting at 3:26 there's a whole Scorpio family scene with Robert, Anna, Felicia and Mac. 5 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule January 12, 2016 Share January 12, 2016 (edited) I miss Serial Drama. I would really love to know if Mallory watched Robin and Patrick's wedding and the whole rushed storyline. Because I remember the AWESOME screencaps she gave me us when Robert found Robin at Wyndemere. The most recent thing is from November 15. Edited January 12, 2016 by GHScorpiosRule 7 Link to comment
dubbel zout January 12, 2016 Share January 12, 2016 I think GH finally broke Mallory. 8 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule January 12, 2016 Share January 12, 2016 I think GH finally broke Mallory. I think you're right. I did see Louise's comment that linked to their FB page about how she did watch the wedding. But dammit, I really wanted Mallory's take on it! 2 Link to comment
Tiger January 12, 2016 Share January 12, 2016 (edited) When is Jason's first Y&R air date? Yup. I'm also pretty sure that Marty's exit - and the ridiculous role they wanted Patrick to play in it - was written and filmed before the show's cancellation. Omg! Kyle and Fish!!!!!!Kyle Lewis was such an awesome character, and I loved his whole relationship with Fish. I'm still pissed they axed the blacks and the gays when it was Rex & Gigi that were ruining the show.Yeah, IIRC he was friendly with TSJ, but given some of the details Jeff Giles shared online about Susan Haskell's exit that didn't end up in his book ("She gathered everybody around and gave a big speech about how she had never been treated so poorly in her life") I suspect it was more about how his wife had been treated.Interesting. And was under the impression that TKa balked because Uncle Frank wanted him only for a 30 second non-speaking cameo. Edited January 12, 2016 by Tiger 5 Link to comment
yowsah1 January 12, 2016 Share January 12, 2016 Damn. I do not understand their attitudes towards soap actors. More than any other medium, soaps allow an actor to build up fan loyalty - I do not understand this obnoxious attitude that insists that they are disposable/easily replaceable ... unless their name is Tony Geary or Maurice Benard. 1 Link to comment
WendyCR72 January 12, 2016 Share January 12, 2016 Damn. I do not understand their attitudes towards soap actors. More than any other medium, soaps allow an actor to build up fan loyalty - I do not understand this obnoxious attitude that insists that they are disposable/easily replaceable True, but unless one is a big soap name a la Lucci or Geary, it is exactly because these actors can and have been replaced as in, at the very least, recast in many situations whereas in prime time (save for Bewitched and the interchangeable Beckys on Roseanne), such a practice seems to be much less frequent. So maybe that's why, fair or not. Link to comment
Fylaki January 12, 2016 Share January 12, 2016 (edited) To me the problem has always been that TIIC, writers and producers see soaps as TV Shows, where the truth is they are much closer to stage plays. Yes, some actors can be interchanged and replaced pretty easily (i.e. Kiki, and Kristina on GH, and any chorus Gypsy on Stage) some can be replaced but you kind of always miss the iconic player (Lucky and AJ on GH or say Bernadette Peters in the Original Cast of Into the Woods) and others just cannot be played by any one else (Sonny and Luke or on Stage Yul Brenner as the King, though here they keep trying for unknown reasons) but weather replaceable or not there needs to be an acceptance that the actor is collaborating on the role, they are bringing something to it. JJ's Lucky was very different than GV's but each added a layer to an important character. And even though I am convinced that Guza was intentionally destroying Lucky to build up Jason, GV, not the world's best actor by any means, still managed to give Lucky a layer of sweetness that JJ's did not have, which is odd since GV was the bigger more imposing guy. Soap actors bring something to the character. that is not always so at night. By the time he passed Larry Hagman was JR, but if you watch him as Tony Nelson on I Dream of Jeannie that is an entirely different guy. So was Hagman JR? Or did he become JR as JR was written and fleshed out? When soaps are at the best they allow the actor to shape at least part of the character while keeping him in check. 90's Luke, though TG now hates him, is the best example. The writers knew that what was best for show and character was to ground Luke in Laura and Lucky, Geary wanted a different route. Somewhere they meet in the middle, the "family man" who ran a Blues Club and whose friends were mobsters, the "Good Dad" who pierced his son's ear with a knife while on a camping trip with a Strip Club owner (MB's best time as Sonny as well BTW) . Guza made the mistake of allowing SB, MB and TG too much control over there character and the threesome, along with Carly became not watchable. It seems the opposite goes on now. RH is far to good a soap actor to really want to play this Franco shit. I would suspect he would love a scene where he goes home takes out a book and goes though page after page of his serial killer victims, we can wait weeks to find out if he does this to gloat or does it in tears as he punishes himself. Either way it does not matter what matters is that the writers allow a good actor to develop something in the character A Becky scene where Liz is on the phone talking ranting as it builds to her father, blaming him for not being there, saying that he is responsible for all her bad choices in men, and ending with her screaming "I was raped and you never even came to see me" and she holds the phone out we hear the dial tone...Jeff was never even on the line. Would say more about the character of Liz then we have learned in 20 years. Let the actors skill build the character. But alas writers egos are bigger than actors and so..we have this wreck Edited January 12, 2016 by Fylaki 8 Link to comment
Francie January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 I don't care if I'm right or wrong. I'm going to credit the Scorpios for the bump in GH's ratings for the week of New Years. http://www.soapoperanetwork.com/2016/01/47057 14 Link to comment
HeatLifer January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 (edited) I don't care if I'm right or wrong. I'm going to credit the Scorpios for the bump in GH's ratings for the week of New Years. http://www.soapoperanetwork.com/2016/01/47057 Heh. I'm SO interested to see the ratings the week of the Scrubs wedding and then the day after they left/this week. Edited January 13, 2016 by HeatLifer 2 Link to comment
Tiger January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 I don't care if I'm right or wrong. I'm going to credit the Scorpios for the bump in GH's ratings for the week of New Years. http://www.soapoperanetwork.com/2016/01/47057 Hmmm . . . Every time The Scorpios or Scorpio-related story has been front and center, ratings rise dramatically. Everything from Felicia getting the cliffhanger to Jason seeing figmint!Robin to R&A reuniting with Robin has sent the ratings high. I can't wait to see the ratings for the currently airing week and subsequent weeks. With Scrubs gone, I think ratings are going to crater. 5 Link to comment
TeeVee329 January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 Storywise, the show is a huge mess, hence all the recycling in that promo. 2 Link to comment
Chairperson Meow January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 I really hope that Sonny possibly arising from his chair to reek havoc at a two legged stance isn't given any credit. Nor Morgan's "Dude, Where's My Pills?" with the refrain of "Have You Taken Your Pills?" and the "My Pills Are Ruining My Life" remix. It's also not Night of The Zombie Children featuring Boring, Crazy Eyes, Hey You, Blah, and Clenchy Jaw. At this point, Steven Avery is a more sympathetic lead male than any male on this show. Ya know? Yeah. 1 Link to comment
Francie January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 Storywise, the show is a huge mess, hence all the recycling in that promo. There is no "story" on this show at the moment. There's no set up. No conflict leading to an ultimate confrontation in the works. No identification of an issue to be resolved. No communication to the viewer at all about what we should we focusing on or caring about. The state of the show has no storyline structure guideposts. It's nothing more than a meandering mess right now. 8 Link to comment
Artsda January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 When is Jason's first Y&R air date? Today. Link to comment
JaneDigby January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 It's nothing more than a meandering mess right now. #MeanderIntoTheGHMess 4 Link to comment
LeftPhalange January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 It's nothing more than a meandering mess right now. But #FallInLoveWithGH 4 Link to comment
dubbel zout January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 When is Jason's first Y&R air date? Today. Fittingly, he's in a hospital, though in a coma. For now. Link to comment
linsav January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 Wow Sobby was a Disney Princess... Teresa CastilloJanuary 10 at 5:24pm ·Happy closing to the cast and crew of Disney's Aladdin: A Musical Spectacular! This show will… https://t.co/Yfq34eT84fINSTAGRAM.COM/P/BAYVTMHO1BR/ Link to comment
backhometome January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 How amusing that Jason T. Billy is in a coma the same way Billy M. Jason was in a coma on GH, when they first debuted. 1 Link to comment
HeatLifer January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 I spoiled myself and watched scenes of JT as Billy and he's already 100% better on that show. GH wasted him. It's a shame. 5 Link to comment
JaneDigby January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 I spoiled myself and watched scenes of JT as Billy and he's already 100% better on that show. GH wasted him. It's a shame. He was even better on AMC. Every time he messed with Ryan, and angel got its wings. Link to comment
HeatLifer January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 He was even better on AMC. Every time he messed with Ryan, and angel got its wings. I was talking about JT. But, I agree, Billy Miller was 100% better away from GH. I'm sensing a pattern. 1 Link to comment
ulkis January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 I spoiled myself and watched scenes of JT as Billy and he's already 100% better on that show. GH wasted him. It's a shame. I mean, I don't even think GH meant to waste him. They just made everything as inconducive to a good performance as possible. 4 Link to comment
TeeVee329 January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 Despair in the Afternoon had a nice write-up of Patrick and Robin's exit: https://despairintheafternoon.wordpress.com/2016/01/13/farewell-sweet-neurosurgeon/ 3 Link to comment
HeatLifer January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 I mean, I don't even think GH meant to waste him. They just made everything as inconducive to a good performance as possible. I mean...they may not have intentionally meant to...but they clearly didn't see him as a lead or someone who could carry a story. They were focused on MB, LW, KeMo, BH, BM/SBu, BC, CD, I could go on.... 1 Link to comment
dubbel zout January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 Well, why would writers on a show called General Hospital want to write a story for a doctor? That's crazy talk. 18 Link to comment
HeatLifer January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 I forgot to add RH, MS, MW, BLTs... Link to comment
Tiger January 13, 2016 Share January 13, 2016 Wow, Y&R sucks too. However, at least it doesn't look like it was financed by washing the cars of and selling baked goods to the cast of Grey's Anatomy. 5 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 Despair in the Afternoon had a nice write-up of Patrick and Robin's exit: https://despairintheafternoon.wordpress.com/2016/01/13/farewell-sweet-neurosurgeon/ I am almost positive the author of this piece used to post over on TWoP! The name is soooo familiar! And I did like the write-up. Noticed that nothing was said about the FUCKING WHITEWASH/ERASURE of Robin's history with the SheBeast, though. 2 Link to comment
ulkis January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 I am almost positive the author of this piece used to post over on TWoP! She did. 3 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 She did. I knew I wasn't going crazy! Link to comment
peachmangosteen January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 (edited) Wow, Y&R sucks too. It really does. I mean honestly it doesn't seem any better than GH to me, but then I have tried numerous times to get into Y&R and I've never been able to so maybe it's just not my thing. But imo nothing about it was really any better than GH. And I think it's actually more boring, which doesn't even seem possible! Days is also really bad but imo it's the most entertaining of the 3. Well, based on the few times I've watched it in the past year. Edited January 14, 2016 by peachmangosteen 1 Link to comment
ulkis January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 It really does. I mean honestly it doesn't seem any better than GH to me, but then I have tried numerous times to get into Y&R and I've never been able to so maybe it's just not my thing. But imo nothing about it was really any better than GH. And I think it's actually more boring, which doesn't even seem possible! Days is also really bad but imo it's the most entertaining of the 3. Well, based on the few times I've watched it in the past year. I think Y&R is just "boring" to people who are primarily GH viewers because I've tried several times over the years to get into Y&R and I just couldn't. 1 Link to comment
UYI January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 Well, why would writers on a show called General Hospital want to write a story for a doctor? That's crazy talk. Taking this to the UO thread. Link to comment
Artsda January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 JT was great on YR. GH was stupid to waste him and let him go. Link to comment
Ambrosefolly January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 (edited) I feel like I'm going to get into trouble for this, but here's my UO for today: Whenever I hear people talking about how there aren't any doctors on contract anymore/doctors getting stories anymore, part of it feels somewhat...disingenuous to me, because the last time the hospital was the sole focus of the show was probably in the mid 70's, right before Gloria Monty arrived (so, I guess, 1977). I guess there have been times since where doctors have had more prominence on the show (the Labine era, the beginning of Scrubs), but it just feels like the hospital has taken a backseat to so many other things on the show for so long--dating back to before it was even a cultural phenomenon from 1979-1981--that hearing this, even if it means just giving doctors on the show story outside of the hospital, feels somewhat strange for me. I remember people in 2000 or 2001, when I first started looking online for soap stuff, asking what had happened to the hospital, and I can only imagine what older viewers thought when L&L had their sci-fi stuff going on, nno matter how big that was. It feels REALLY good to let this out. I'll probably have to go into hiding for awhile now. ;) But General Hospital has always been the epicenter of sorts, even when the show focused on other things and doctors have been introduced as dynamic and interesting characters. Steve Hardy (who would have been horrified by Liz's behavior and would have dressed her down) was considered the bedrock of GH until the day he died. Doctors have always had some sort of role to play and could be treated as dynamics characters in their own right. I don't see why hospital stories can't be rotated into prominence a few times a year, focusing on the doctors and not the patients, which usually are Sonny and his various members. St.Elsewhere, Grey's Anatomy and ER (and even General Hospital Night Shift) showed compelling dramas could take place inside of the hospital. Hospital stories every story would be a terrible idea, but the opposite is proving equally (or more) as horrible. Edited January 14, 2016 by Ambrosefolly 4 Link to comment
Francie January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 Wow Sobby was a Disney Princess... Teresa Castillo January 10 at 5:24pm · Happy closing to the cast and crew of Disney's Aladdin: A Musical Spectacular! This show will… https://t.co/Yfq34eT84f INSTAGRAM.COM/P/BAYVTMHO1BR/ Ha, for all our joking about Sabrina being a Disney princess, TC literally played one. From that write up of Robin and Patrick: May you both get better haircuts in Berkeley I;ve spent some good amount of time in Berkeley. There's no chance of that happening. 5 Link to comment
HeatLifer January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 JT was great on YR. GH was stupid to waste him and let him go. I think GH was stupid to not only make Patrick wallpaper on this show, but to make him Mr. "I Deserve to be Happy" Perfecty Perfect. That's boring for any actor to play. And it doesn't surprise me that JT said "See ya" at the first chance of playing a character with problems and flaws. 3 Link to comment
Evolution101 January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 (edited) Wow, Y&R sucks too. Yup. Chuck Pratt really did a hatchet job on that show. Not that it was all that great before he came along, but still. May you both get better haircuts in Berkeley LMAO! Meanwhile, back on the home front, the General Hospital full time staff is now down to two serial killers, Elizabeth, and a handful of day players who get trotted out of the African-American/Gay closet once every two months if we’re lucky How sad and pathetic is that? Edited January 14, 2016 by Evolution101 1 Link to comment
Tiger January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 (edited) After what Frank did at OLTL, I imagine Nate-dog coming into Uncle Frank's office, telling Frank that Vicki wants to know what's up with the ratings, Frank saying "its the blacks and the gays" and Nate-dog saying "obviously" in all seriousness. I think Y&R is just "boring" to people who are primarily GH viewers because I've tried several times over the years to get into Y&R and I just couldn't.I think there's a difference between a show being actively "bad" versus being generally "boring". Every time in the past I've tried to get into Y&R, I found it extremely boring. At least the past three steps of Y&R I've found actively bad. As i said in my previous post, its basically GH but with an actual production budget. Edited January 14, 2016 by Tiger 3 Link to comment
ulkis January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 I'm not denying it's bad now, but I've found a lot of people, myself included, found Y&R not their speed even when it had a good reputation. 2 Link to comment
TeeVee329 January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 Y&R always seemed like the soap your grandparents watched, if that makes sense. Link to comment
Box305 January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 My grandma watched Y&R in the 70s and I HATED the theme song as a kid. Like I had nightmares about it and even now, 40 years later, I still cringe when I hear it. I wanted to run out of the theater when I saw Mr. Mom because it was so heavily featured in that movie. Haha. 1 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 Heh. One of my first grade teachers watched Young & The Restless during her lunch break, every day! So I kind of knew who the characters were. Then, when I was in the 8th grade, my best friend, well, my new best friend, or new good friend, actually, was a CBS soaps watcher, so I added all the CBS soaps to my viewing schedule. I've always been an ABC soap watcher...and then later, from my cuz, who is a guy, got into the NBC soaps, starting with Days. But ultimately, I stayed with ABC and this soap, such as it is, before it broke me with AJ's murder. Hmmm...mebbe this should be in the Small Talk thread instead. 1 Link to comment
HeatLifer January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 My grandma watched Y&R in the 70s and I HATED the theme song as a kid. Like I had nightmares about it and even now, 40 years later, I still cringe when I hear it. I wanted to run out of the theater when I saw Mr. Mom because it was so heavily featured in that movie. Haha. Haha. I love their theme song. I always thought it was the best in daytime. 2 Link to comment
Box305 January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 Haha. I love their theme song. I always thought it was the best in daytime. Nooooo those opening notes nooooooooo they're so evil and creepy. Link to comment
HeatLifer January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 Nooooo those opening notes nooooooooo they're so evil and creepy. I LOVE IT. I CAN'T HELP IT. Pls accept me anyway. 1 Link to comment
Box305 January 14, 2016 Share January 14, 2016 All of this talk about theme songs makes me miss the 70s-early 90s GH theme. 3 Link to comment
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