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Discussion of the hosts regarding a specific episode is fine here, but generalized discussion of the hosts go in the The Hosts Thread: Joe and Mika Know Their Value. 

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It always cracks me up to see Peggy Noonan & George Will. I keep wondering if David Brinkley will show up & mumble about politics.

George Will is not a fan of the newly bearded Adam Kissinger ( sp?) . Will said that Assad will win the civil war against the other Syrians with Russia's help. He is not going anywhere. Kissinger wanted to bomb the Syrian air force for using chemical weapons on civilians.

Peggy is wearing a beige scarf & Pearls from the June Cleaver collection.

Joe was having trouble saying the word expulcate.

Joe is mad at Trump for blaming all the Republicans who are involved in the investigations.

Tim Kaine tried to defend his views on having more border security. Tim offered Trump 25 billion to fix the border.

1 minute ago, stormy said:

Yuck! We finally move to FL earlier this year and the weaselist of weasels is running for Senate.

Meanwhile back in my home state of MN my new favorite Richard Painter is thinking of doing the same. Bad timing?

Lucky you!. It's still cold in Oakville. We had a bit of snow on Sunday. Florida has better weather.

I am surprised that Rick Scott won in 2010 & 2014. The voter turnout is lower for Governor's races than federal elections.

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1 hour ago, Landsnark said:

"So u r right!"  That just set afire my last nerve.  Way to break down the legalese while knowing your worth, genius.
I wish I hadn't read the comments beneath her post.  Yes, I'm aware of the irony, but Twitter and Facebook comments are the least productive, potentially most destructive, use of any sort of communication.  They're scary, they're alarming, they're deeply discouraging.  There is nothing informative, just attempts to take pot shots and win the snarkiest or meanest comment.  Mean often succeeds, humorous almost never.
It's this mentality that causes CNN not to do deep pieces on global news.  No major news outlet's goal is to solely inform, it's also to maintain a level of friction so the network is more entertaining.

I get tired of the crossfire pundit battles. I was trying to watch Meet The Press on Sunday & you can tell right away who is going to be or anti GOP. It's getting boring.

The Canadian TV news shows like Question period have people from different political parties on but they aren't as hostile towards each other.

2 hours ago, millennium said:

Too much emphasis on Zuckerberg today.   Why does Scarborough keep touting him as a Presidential candidate?   Reminds me of the crush he had on Jared Kushner.

I doubt Zuckerberg would run for President or any political office.

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On 4/9/2018 at 10:55 AM, izabella said:

Characterizing what Pruitt has been doing as "blunders" is gaslighting.  He's been very deliberate in his theft of taxpayer funds for his jaunts to Morocco and Paris, complete with an entourage, in private jets or first class.  He saw Tom Price get fired for that, so he has no excuse of "not knowing."  He deliberately searched out a provision in the Clean Water Act and deliberately misused it to give huge raises to his cronies, against the wishes of the WH which did not approve those raises, and against the purpose of the provision.  Virtually rent free housing for him, and free housing for his daughter in that condo owned by energy lobbyists whom he subsequently awarded contracts to is not a blunder - it's bribery.  Pruitt was an AG - he's not new to the law or to corruption.  Call him out for what he is instead of softening his actions to "blunders" as if he wasn't doing it knowingly.  Why is this panel pretending Pruitt isn't corrupt?  I really don't get it when it's so obvious.

Pruitt's entourage is almost as big as Joe's at the GOP convention in 2016. Pruitt should resign but he won't. I think Trump is afraid that a new EPA director wouldn't get confirmed by the Senate.

On 4/9/2018 at 11:28 AM, XOQueens said:

I can't imagine Joe attending anything where a main award is going to his arch-nemesis Access Maggie. 

I will never forget the show that Mika & Joe did after the WHCD in 2009 or 2010. Mika was wearing sunglasses. They did it outside. They were hungover.

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19 hours ago, Chloesmom said:

Nothing says Happy Birthday! like getting punched in the face over Twitter . . . oooof!

Ha!. Joe has more enemies now. I wonder why his glasses are off when he in the bunker.

Hey, Mika got her Women's power segment back at 8:50 a.m. Tina Brown said "Amazing " Five Times. She used to be a first block guest on Morning Joe. Now she is reduced to the last 5 minutes of the show. Hillary Clinton will moderate a panel! They will discuss the #metoo movement.

I thought Tina Brown would discuss how the #MeToo movement affected the panelist of Morning Joe. ? Halperin, Tavis Smiley, Harold Ford Jr,

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41 minutes ago, oakville said:

I am surprised that Rick Scott won in 2010 & 2014. The voter turnout is lower for Governor's races than federal elections.

Scott has more money than he knows what to do with, and so he spends it on getting himself elected. For the gubernatorial races, he flooded the air with feel-good ads and won over the gullible citizens of FL (of which I am one . . . er, not gullible but, yes, a Floridian). I fear that he will win again, even though Nelson is fairly well-regarded. 

And, Oakville, I love the June Cleaver collection reference. Did Peggy clutch her pearls at any point?  :)

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8 minutes ago, Jordan Baker said:

Scott has more money than he knows what to do with, and so he spends it on getting himself elected. For the gubernatorial races, he flooded the air with feel-good ads and won over the gullible citizens of FL (of which I am one . . . er, not gullible but, yes, a Floridian). I fear that he will win again, even though Nelson is fairly well-regarded. 

And, Oakville, I love the June Cleaver collection reference. Did Peggy clutch her pearls at any point?  :)

I visited Florida during the 2016 election. I was shocked by how many political ads there were on TV. I would freak out if that happened here. It was Murphy vs Rubio back then.

Leave it to Beaver was one of my favourite shows when I was growing up. Mika used to wear pearls on Morning Joe.

Peggy always dresses up. I like her because I can go get a coffee in the kitchen & come back before she finishes her sentence. Every word she says is measured.

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Just now, stormy said:

I'm actually pleasantly surprised to find out how many Democrats live in Sanibel. Not just snow birds but full timers like me. There's even a Democratic Club. I'll join!

Have you picked up any shells? Sanibel Island has a lot of shells. My relatives live in Bonita Springs. They were frustrated during the election because most of their neighbours were Trump supporters. They are Canadian so they can't vote

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2 hours ago, XOQueens said:

The question of our age, dear oakville. 

u r so right!

But then, we might also ask why we have a President who talks like a Valley girl.

P.S.  Never could stand Rosie O'Donnell (and this is going all the way back to Star Search), but it's funny she posed the question on all our minds.

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9 hours ago, Caseysgirl said:

Watching the clip of Trump discussing the " break in" at his lawyers office, does anyone know who was the asshole shouting, "why don't you fire they guy? Just fire him." Was that a journalist or does Trump have people in the background yelling things out for him.

 

8 hours ago, millennium said:

I wondered that myself.   It didn't seem like a typical reporter's question.   It's like asking, Why don't you just nuke North Korea?

Ugh, Mika and that scarf.   She looks like a priest on Pentecost Sunday.

It was a Fox News radio reporter.  You be the judge if that makes him a journalist or not.

 

Fox News Radio reporter: Trump mouthed ‘thank you’ for question about firing Mueller

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2018/04/10/fox-news-radio-reporter-trump-mouthed-thank-you-for-question-about-firing-mueller/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.32d091e57adf

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5 hours ago, oakville said:

Why does Mika tweet like a teenager?

Because emotionally she has never shifted out of the high school gear.  She still gets pissed when she's not getting enough attention, preens when she does and would eat glass to be part of the popular kids group.

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6 hours ago, oakville said:

Lucky you!. It's still cold in Oakville. We had a bit of snow on Sunday. Florida has better weather.

Oakville this made me laugh out loud as the Cubs finally got to have their season opener today.  The only reason I know this is because one of the biggest beef and hot dog franchises has been advertising a dollar off a dog and fries on Opening Day.  I got the email three days in a row . . . let's play ball!

1 hour ago, izabella said:

It was a Fox News radio reporter.  You be the judge if that makes him a journalist or not.

Sigh . . . they got themselves a real Edward R. Moron there.  Gross.

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2 hours ago, millennium said:

P.S.  Never could stand Rosie O'Donnell (and this is going all the way back to Star Search), but it's funny she posed the question on all our minds.

I thought Sinbad got screwed!

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1 hour ago, Chloesmom said:

Oakville this made me laugh out loud as the Cubs finally got to have their season opener today.  The only reason I know this is because one of the biggest beef and hot dog franchises has been advertising a dollar off a dog and fries on Opening Day.  I got the email three days in a row . . . let's play ball!

Sigh . . . they got themselves a real Edward R. Moron there.  Gross.

I hate cold weather. We had snow "flurries" today. It's annoying. The USA may have many political difficulties but you do have better weather. The Turks & Caicos Caribbean Island applied to join Canada many years ago but Canada said no. I have always dreamed of visiting Wrigley Field. It's on my "bucket list"

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1 hour ago, Chloesmom said:

Because emotionally she has never shifted out of the high school gear.  She still gets pissed when she's not getting enough attention, preens when she does and would eat glass to be part of the popular kids group.

It amazes me at how lucky Mika is to have such a famous mom & dad . In Mika's first book, "All things at Once " , she told the story of her  dropping  hot soup into the lap of the late President of China ,Deng Xiaoping's & nearly ran over President Carter in a golf cart. Based on what I have read, the Brezezinski's are intellectuals & Mika is not.

It's ironic that Mika probably makes more money than both of her brothers who are intellectuals & one of them was appointed by President Obama to Ambassador to Sweden.

3 hours ago, Ohwell said:

I thought Sinbad got screwed!

Ha! I loved that show.

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Wednesday Recap. Joe is in the bunker. Mika is on set. KCDC is in the small library. It took 17 minutes for Mika to question Kasie!. Kasie got a lightning intro. Boo!.

Today's topic is will Trump fire Mueller? It's the usual cast of characters.

Mika is rewearing her dark blue navy top.

This show needs more Kasie! & less Bunker Joe.

For years , I railed against Joe for wearing fleece on the set. Now he doesn't he even bother showing up on the set but he wears a nice suit.

I will see what else is on TV this morning.

Joe made fun of Senators who didn't understand Facebook. They asked dumb questions to Zuckerberg

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I really was going to try and watch them today but as Oakville noted in his post it's more of the same old same old but what finally shoved my hand over to the remote was Joe making fun of the senators who were clearly outgunned in questioning Zuckerberg.  Of all people to make fun of someone that has a lesser grasp of technology . . . 

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I’m not sure why there are any guests. Joe from the bunker just doesn’t shut up unless it’s to let Mika say “yep.” And he is going overboard on praise for Republicans  saying Trump won’t fire Mueller  and for Trump’s bellicose tweet on Syria.  What’s up with the cheerleading?

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They go through the trouble of calling Richard Haas back to the set to talk about tRumps's latest Syria tweet, get him all mic'd up, etc, only to have JoeBlow give a 20 minute diatriabe while Haas just stands there, then when Joey runs out of breath, Mika turns to Haas and says, 'Ok, you're dismissed.' She seriously said that.  I wish Groupie Mika and Rock "star" Joe would just go on permanent tour.

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Is Mika supposed to be a journalist? She has no poker face when she's interviewing people.  Her disgust about Michael Cohen was palpable while interviewing Donnie Deutsch and the Vanity Fair reporter. Isn't it possible that she could just ask a question without looking like she's holding back vomit. 

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Well, this is no fun to even snark on anymore.  I tuned in around 7:30 and enjoyed hearing Donnie Deutsch's opinion...then what appears?  Joe from the bunker, pontificating.  At least Chris Cuomo respects the guests enough to show up.  He was doing a really good one-on-one interview with Madeleine Albright.   I switched to CNN and CBS This Morning.  MSNBC...are you listening?  And because I can't say it enough....I cannot cannot stand Meek-a.  Especially when she tries to flex her asking-question skills.

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Just chiming in to relate - the show is unwatchable; I gave up a few weeks ago sounds like it is not improving.  I still enjoy all the folks who are able to stomach it and snark here though!

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Are there people somewhere who like this show?   All I ever see or hear is snarking, cynicism and derision in relation to it.    All richly deserved, IMHO, but still, for a show to remain on the air somebody has to like it.    A lot of somebodies, actually.  But who are they?  

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8 minutes ago, millennium said:

Are there people somewhere who like this show?   All I ever see or hear is snarking, cynicism and derision in relation to it.    All richly deserved, IMHO, but still, for a show to remain on the air somebody has to like it.    A lot of somebodies, actually.  But who are they?  

 

I'm able to hate-watch a show for a loooong time... but this one I just can't anymore; maybe all that are left are the hate-watchers?  

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 What was up Joe's butt? I didn't see much, I saw Donnie talking about Cohen, didn't even hear whatever cuss word he used that he got so scolded by Joe, who didn't miss an opportunity to remind everyone that they can't go anywhere without people walking up to them and telling them how much they love the show, which according to his Twitter feed, is complete horseshit. 

They have done nothing but talk about a "porn star" for a month, but they're worried about kids hearing Donnie swear? 

I don't watch, either, I'll turn it on for a sec when I get done with whatever I'm watching while having coffee/breakfast (Marvelous Mrs Maisel), and then I switch to Today or GMA. 

It's a clusterfuck of epic proportions.  I know we joke but I'm really wondering if Joe & Mika are edging toward the end of their relationship, business and personal, if there's even any difference in the two. 

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I'm telling you if I ever hear on the news that there is a sniper on the top of Rockefeller Center shooting into the crowd I'm going to know it's Kasey Hunt. Because the pain on her face, even though it appears for a second, when she's there trying to be a serious journalist and they're doing that lightning bolt AM radio DJ schtick they do, she's going to one day lose it. I mean it could be like "Russia has just sent a nuclear missile towards the u.s. and Kasey hunt, (insert lightning bolt and graphic,) is reporting on it."

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'Morning Kasie' has a nice ring to it.  As long as Heidi sits next to her in Mika's chair!

(I know she has her Sunday night show, but why can't we have her 5 days a week?)

Or AM Joy - everyday, not just the weekends!

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1 hour ago, teddysmom said:

It's a clusterfuck of epic proportions.  I know we joke but I'm really wondering if Joe & Mika are edging toward the end of their relationship, business and personal, if there's even any difference in the two. 

My morning social media surfing saw a lot of people asking the same thing. Their vibe is bad. 

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1 hour ago, millennium said:

Are there people somewhere who like this show?   All I ever see or hear is snarking, cynicism and derision in relation to it.    All richly deserved, IMHO, but still, for a show to remain on the air somebody has to like it.    A lot of somebodies, actually.  But who are they?  

I am pleased to report that Showbuzz Daily states that ratings for Monday April 9 dropped to 924k & .11 in the Key demo. It’s down 100k in the past two weeks.

Bunker Joe better start showing up for work

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1 hour ago, WhineandCheez said:

I'm telling you if I ever hear on the news that there is a sniper on the top of Rockefeller Center shooting into the crowd I'm going to know it's Kasey Hunt. Because the pain on her face, even though it appears for a second, when she's there trying to be a serious journalist and they're doing that lightning bolt AM radio DJ schtick they do, she's going to one day lose it. I mean it could be like "Russia has just sent a nuclear missile towards the u.s. and Kasey hunt, (insert lightning bolt and graphic,) is reporting on it."

Mika should stop insulting Kasie! With that stupid lightning bolt

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59 minutes ago, XOQueens said:

Did Joe really say “sex is expensive”? Lol

What? I'm sorry I missed that. Anyone have details? 

The divorce, the diamond engagement ring, the chickens, several homes, membership at Mystic Tans, hair gel, botox, it all adds up. 

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1 minute ago, oakville said:

Mika should stop insulting Kasie! With that stupid lightning bolt

Her face is pained by that schtick.  She's obviously insulted by it.  It's uncomfortable to watch.  Mika might as well tousle Kasie's hair and comment on how much she's grown.  Mika's a passive aggressive bitch.

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1 minute ago, oakville said:

Mika should stop insulting Kasie! With that stupid lightning bolt

One women repeatedly doing that to another woman on a national broadcast (obviously relishing the power that allows her to do so while ignoring Kasie's discomfort) reveals the superficiality and hypocrisy behind Mika's Know Your Value schtick. She wrote in All Things At Once that "this business eats its young" so she can not be unaware of what she's doing. I won't have even a little sympathy for Mika when her sordid romance wrapped in a pretty bow comes to an end. In public.

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It took 23 minutes into the show to talk to Clint Watts.  :(

I can't stand Emily Jane Fox. She's been on MSNBC since the Michael Cohen story started.

With tweets like trump's this morning, I wonder if I can rent a room in Joe's bunker. Can I get the Scott Pruitt rate?

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I wonder if they'll prep for tomorrow's show and have a cogent approach to their 3 hours?  There's a lot going on, and they could line up a long list of experts to explicate and predict the current state of affairs [stormy daniels pun intended]:
This may very possibly be the run up to an actual, hot, shooting war in Syria where Russia is the opponent, and not even by proxy.  We may be at war with them soon.  Trump's tweets are unhinged and insane.
That puerile douche bag Ryan is retiring.  There's a special place in history saved for that sack of pus where he'll spend eternity lumped in with the Southern sabre-rattlers hoping to divide the nation in the late 1850's.
Facebook isn't being questioned by old Luddites who have 0 idea of how to hold Zuckerburg accountable, let alone how to fix/regulate trolling and propaganda.
There may be a trade war with China, Canada, and Mexico.
For those Bernie Bros who's entire political philosophy is summed up by: "it's time for something new."  Here you are, millennial geniuses.  Are you not entertained?  You'll get your free college on the GI Bill after you're drafted into the Army

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2 hours ago, Xena said:

I'm able to hate-watch a show for a loooong time

HEE!  Good one!

eta:  Thank you for explaining my behavior to myself, I feel so much better I am not alone.

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14 minutes ago, stormy said:

can't stand Emily Jane Fox

Is she the Vanity Fair woman?

Mika's boyfriend, Avenatti was on 11th Hour last night with Nicole, so he's in NYC.  

Agree Mika needs to stop treating Kasie like her pet.  I even tweeted at Kasie once that she doesn't deserve to be treated like that, they are insulting her, and she's the journalist, not those two bozos. 

She does not need the exposure, she runs her ass off all day at Congress, then hosts two hours on Sunday night. 

I'd tell Joe & Mika to fuck off if I was her.  "I know my value, and appearing on this shit show isn't helping it". 

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33 minutes ago, suomi said:

One women repeatedly doing that to another woman on a national broadcast (obviously relishing the power that allows her to do so while ignoring Kasie's discomfort) reveals the superficiality and hypocrisy behind Mika's Know Your Value schtick. She wrote in All Things At Once that "this business eats its young" so she can not be unaware of what she's doing. I won't have even a little sympathy for Mika when her sordid romance wrapped in a pretty bow comes to an end. In public.

On air?  Pretty please?  Fingers crossed . . . 

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3 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Mika's boyfriend, Avenatti

He was on CNN this morning and was a total dick to Alison.  To be honest, I was shocked at his behavior (Alison basically pressed him as to when are we going to see these new things you have been hinting about.  Apparently he is tired of that question because he basically said he can't answer right now and if that isn't ok with you then stop asking me to be on your program/network).  She handled it professionally but I wonder if CNN will be lining him up anytime soon.  

Hey good news, lots of time just opened up for Morning Joe!

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1 hour ago, oakville said:

I am pleased to report that Showbuzz Daily states that ratings for Monday April 9 dropped to 924k & .11 in the Key demo. It’s down 100k in the past two weeks.

Bunker Joe better start showing up for work

Yikes, that is BAD . . . thanks for this Oakville!

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6 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

e was on CNN this morning and was a total dick to Alison.  To be honest, I was shocked at his behavior (Alison basically pressed him as to when are we going to see these new things you have been hinting about.  Apparently he is tired of that question because he basically said he can't answer right now and if that isn't ok with you then stop asking me to be on your program/network).  She handled it professionally but I wonder if CNN will be lining him up anytime soon.  

He could be exhausted, but then don't book yourself on these shows. Nicole kept pressing him on the dvd and he said flat out, I'm not showing you everything we have. This is a chess game and so far we've made good moves. 

TBF, everyone does ask him the same questions over and over, and he tells them "not now". It would get tiresome. 

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26 minutes ago, Landsnark said:

I wonder if they'll prep for tomorrow's show and have a cogent approach to their 3 hours?  There's a lot going on, and they could line up a long list of experts to explicate and predict the current state of affairs [stormy daniels pun intended]:
This may very possibly be the run up to an actual, hot, shooting war in Syria where Russia is the opponent, and not even by proxy.  We may be at war with them soon.  Trump's tweets are unhinged and insane.
That puerile douche bag Ryan is retiring.  There's a special place in history saved for that sack of pus where he'll spend eternity lumped in with the Southern sabre-rattlers hoping to divide the nation in the late 1850's.
Facebook isn't being questioned by old Luddites who have 0 idea of how to hold Zuckerburg accountable, let alone how to fix/regulate trolling and propaganda.
There may be a trade war with China, Canada, and Mexico.
For those Bernie Bros who's entire political philosophy is summed up by: "it's time for something new."  Here you are, millennial geniuses.  Are you not entertained?  You'll get your free college on the GI Bill after you're drafted into the Army

I'd probably watch Morning Landsnark.

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5 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

He could be exhausted, but then don't book yourself on these shows. Nicole kept pressing him on the dvd and he said flat out, I'm not showing you everything we have. This is a chess game and so far we've made good moves. 

TBF, everyone does ask him the same questions over and over, and he tells them "not now". It would get tiresome. 

Yes thanks Teddysmom I meant to add something about this to my post.  I was just so taken aback by that interview I hope he does fit in a snoozle or two and recharge for a bit.

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57 minutes ago, Landsnark said:

wonder if they'll prep for tomorrow's show and have a cogent approach to their 3 hours?  There's a lot going on, and they could line up a long list of experts to explicate and predict the current state of affairs [stormy daniels pun intended]:

Yeah I just saw the Russia stuff. 

But you know what. This could be Trump AND Putin trying to do something to distract the media. Putin doesn't want this found out anymore than Trump does. 

Remember the good old days when we assassinated dictators? 

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Oh, Teddysmom...This morning I was telling Mr. Kemper my idea of Trump/Putin flim-flamming us on Syria.  I think they have secretly agreed that Trump will saber rattle...trash talk Putin a little..Putin will pretend to be offended and angry.  But they are plotting deals together.  Mr. Kemper thinks I am waaay off base.  So thank you, TM for having the same thoughts.  I wish someone would suggest that on MJ.  Maybe Donnie?  Meek-a could arch her eyebrow, Joe could bluster, then Meek-a would scold The Boys.  Now THAT may bring in some viewers.

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