Jean September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 They have a marketing budget. Once shot that promo that didn't contain any actual scenes from an episode. That costs money. I'm also guessing most of the marketing is going to be centered around Frozen, as it should be. My guess is they believe the current viewers are loyal and will tune into the show anyway. The goal is to get new eyeballs. The promo materials, like cast photos are just talking points. They get the show a mention or article in the media. They don't have an endless supply of information to give out and photos are an easy way to do that. But Once doesn't really need that right now. They have Elsa and Frozen that the media will just glom onto. 1 Link to comment
sharky September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 (edited) I'm not surprised we didn't get any. If I remember correctly, the black background photos were released between 3A and 3B so they're not that old. And most shows don't get photos each season -- I know Castle has skipped seasons before. And you also have to remember the focus this season -- they have spent a lot of money promoting then Frozen angle. They even had a huge Frozen wrap on the side of Petco Park at Comic Com, which I don't think they did last year. So I have no problem with them skipping this season. Jean -- I forgot about the promo they shot, which I also think they haven't done in years past. So again, I'm sure it's just them using their promo money in a different way this season. Edited September 19, 2014 by sharky 1 Link to comment
retrograde September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 I have to believe ABC has just chosen to throw all its money at Frozen. Which will end up biting them in the ass in 412, likely. Maybe, though I would also argue a lot of the press and attention they've gotten has only been because of Frozen -- I doubt TV Guide would have done a Once cover otherwise, for instance (unless the cover of TV Guide is 100% for sale, which it might be). Link to comment
Curio September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 (edited) I have to believe ABC has just chosen to throw all its money at Frozen. Which will end up biting them in the ass in 412, likely. I'm actually curious how they'll market each season from now on. Will they keep relying on these half-season gimmicks and ignore the main cast when they promote the show? I feel at some point, there's going to be some kind of brand dilution. Are the casual viewers going to be upset when they realize they only tuned into 4A to watch Frozen and come to watch 4B with story whiplash? Will they even stick around longer than 2 episodes? That's why I think the marketing leading up to this Frozen arc would have been so much stronger if they had the entire main cast do some frozen landscape style promotional shots, too. I don't doubt that their Frozen-focused marketing on Elsa and Anna is going to draw in huge numbers for the premier, and I agree that's probably what's going to bring in the biggest crowd, but the creative director in me gets frustrated when there's so much potential for some amazing frozen/snow/ice/tundra marketing campaigns that could include the entire cast. Edited September 19, 2014 by Curio 4 Link to comment
Rumsy4 September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 Here are some cool fan-generated Frozen-themed Posters with the main cast: here and here. Shame on the abc/ONCE promo depatment! 1 Link to comment
Jean September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 You don't want to overwhelm the newbies to Once. I think their strategy is to keep it simple so that all Frozen fans will see is Elsa and Anna, gotta check that out. Whereas if you stuck the entire cast on there with Elsa and Anna, it'll create confusion and questions. Then instead of "we have to check out Elsa and Anna" it's "should we check this new show out with a gajillion characters, that has Elsa and Anna in it?" The numbers part of me is really curious to see how big a pop culture force Frozen really is. And what Once looks like before, during and after should be quite revealing. Link to comment
retrograde September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 I think it's a cert that the first ep will get really good numbers (though I do wonder how many totally fresh viewers will just vow to check it out on Hulu or DVR, rather than tune in live), but yeah, I am also interested in how many of them will stick around. The limited spoilers we have so far make me cautiously optimistic some will stick around at least for 4a (though I think a large number will tune in just to catch live action Anna and Elsa with no intention of watching again and I doubt there's much they can do about that), but 4b... I dunno. 1 Link to comment
stealinghome September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 (edited) Jean -- I forgot about the promo they shot, which I also think they haven't done in years past. So again, I'm sure it's just them using their promo money in a different way this season. Actually, they did shoot a separate promo once before, for Season 2. It was the combined Once/Revenge/666 Park Ave promo, and it remains (imo) probably the best promo for Once ever. (God, even the promo is better than S2 was!) Also, watching it reminds me of just how much this season's promo video is a knockoff of the S2 video, heh. But again, they got the promo video+the excellent promo photographs between S1 and S2, when the ratings were still excellent. Edited September 19, 2014 by stealinghome 1 Link to comment
sharky September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 It's so strange to see Hook in their S2 promos. He looks like he has a hat in that one and white lace cuffs in another -- with his hook on the wrong hand. Link to comment
Aliasscape September 20, 2014 Share September 20, 2014 (edited) I'll admit to being perfectly happy to have them focus on Frozen all they can. I only care about Emma these days and since she can't be on screen for the entire episode, every time she's not I'd MUCH RATHER see some Frozen plot line or Frozen flashbacks as opposed to watching Rumpel and Belle portray domestic abuse as the ultimate love, Regina be unable to deal with losing her boyfriend of 3 days, Regina hailed as a saint, Regina crying, Henry telling Regina she's the best Mother ever (nevermind 2 seasons of child abuse), Snow completely failing to connect with Emma and treating her badly, Snow acting like she's a terrible person but Regina's fantastic, or Emma and Hook making googly eyes at each other. I've loved Georgina Haig since Fringe so if her getting major screentime means less of ALL of the above, rock on show. Frozenify it all. Give me Emma, Emma and Charming father/daughter moments, Emma and her little brother or give me Frozen. Adorable little Roland connecting with his Mommy Marian is also acceptable. Please show, don't make me hate him as much as Henry by having him cling to Regina. Edited September 20, 2014 by Aliasscape Link to comment
Serena September 20, 2014 Share September 20, 2014 (edited) Maybe, though I would also argue a lot of the press and attention they've gotten has only been because of Frozen -- I doubt TV Guide would have done a Once cover otherwise, for instance (unless the cover of TV Guide is 100% for sale, which it might be). Once got both a TV Guide and Entertainment Weekly cover. Both those mags have even given covers to CW shows in the past, so it's not really a stretch. Also, whatever faults OUAT has, it's got a really passionate fanbase who would go out and buy the mag without a second thought if it featured pretty pictures of the actors. Adam is saying on Twitter that "the cast" will be at the premiere! I'm hopeful that means most of the main cast, maybe except Jared and Robert if he really can't be bothered. Edited September 20, 2014 by Serena Link to comment
sharky September 20, 2014 Share September 20, 2014 Colin is going to be on Good Day LA on Monday morning so I'm assuming that means he'll also be at the premiere the night before. I'm really hoping it will be a good interview but considering it's Good Day LA, it could also be a complete train wreck. Link to comment
Serena September 20, 2014 Share September 20, 2014 And Jen just tweeted about being in LA at an art gallery, so I'm betting she'll be there too. I checked the schedules of the usual ABC shows, like Jimmy Kimmel, The View and GMA, but none of the Once actors are scheduled there. It's possible they'll be added later, but they aren't on the official press releases. 1 Link to comment
RadioGirl27 September 21, 2014 Share September 21, 2014 The first 7 minutes of the premiere are available, but only for US citizens :-( I hope someone can tape it for us European fans. 1 Link to comment
Writing Wrongs September 21, 2014 Share September 21, 2014 Only for some US citizens, apparently. Link to comment
SilverShadow September 21, 2014 Share September 21, 2014 In the comments nobody seems to have been able to access it yet. Wondering if spoilertv accidentally posted early. Link to comment
Rumsy4 September 21, 2014 Share September 21, 2014 (edited) I too think it was an error. They probably will release it after the screening tonight--not before. Edited September 21, 2014 by Rumsy4 Link to comment
stealinghome September 21, 2014 Share September 21, 2014 Yeah, I just clicked on the link and now there's just a little note from them saying they'll put it up when it becomes available to them. Link to comment
KingOfHearts September 21, 2014 Share September 21, 2014 My provider doesn't participate with Watch ABC, anyway. :/ Link to comment
retrograde September 21, 2014 Share September 21, 2014 (edited) Looks like Spoiler TV took it from here, which was actually posted Thursday. But given ABC doesn't seem to be pushing this elsewhere, yeah, I'd say either some affiliates (this affiliate, this one, and this one have it as well) got sent the release too early, or it was supposed to be embargoed until a later date but some outlets didn't read the instructions properly. The text says "Are you ready for Sunday's season premiere of Once Upon A Time?" which would be an odd thing to write given the day these sites published it, "Sunday" would refer to today. I'm going to guess this was all supposed to go up tomorrow. Edited September 21, 2014 by retrograde 1 Link to comment
myril September 21, 2014 Share September 21, 2014 (edited) You pretty much beat me to it, retrograde, SpoilerTV ususally refers to another source (it's part of their charm, they scan the web for spoilers for people like us). Just adding that they mention in the info as well, that one can see an extended sneak peek for SHIELD, and the premiere episode for "Selfie" before it airs. It's pretty much to promote the Watch App by ABC and not particular about OUaT. So would expect the long sneak into the first episode earliest tonight, with / after the prem party. Edited September 21, 2014 by katusch 1 Link to comment
KingOfHearts September 21, 2014 Share September 21, 2014 I hope someone can tape it for us European fans. I hope someone tapes the premiere tonight, haha. Doubt it, but at least we might get a description of what happens. Link to comment
Rumsy4 September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 (edited) Tons of people on the Red Carpet. Bailey Madison, Robert Carlyle, Colin, Ginnifer Goodwin, Socha, Georgina, and Lail have been spotted so far. ETA: (I'll keep adding pics in this post) More: http://twitpic.com/eby1s5 (Socha, Colin) http://twitpic.com/eby1s2 (Robbie, Madison) https://twitter.com/VladaGelman/status/513848275925860352/photo/1 (Colin) https://twitter.com/VladaGelman/status/513848162079875072/photo/1 (Socha) https://twitter.com/monicajoyy/status/513848724573802496/photo/1 (Sean and Robbie) https://twitter.com/insidethetube/status/513849687422418944/photo/1 (Rebecca Mader) https://twitter.com/insidethetube/status/513849948643676160/photo/1 (The Master Storytellers + Lee Arnberg) https://twitter.com/OUATspoof/status/513850497577406465/photo/1 (Jen!!) https://twitter.com/insidethetube/status/513852145028710400/photo/1 (Snow and Charming. Daawww) Edited September 22, 2014 by Rumsy4 1 Link to comment
Emma September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 Love that the entire cast is there plus lots of the supporting cast too. Link to comment
didia September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 (edited) http://www.pinterest.com/obisgirl/ouat-season-4-premiere-at-el-capitan-theatre-92120/ More pictures! Edited September 22, 2014 by didia Link to comment
Serena September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 It seems like literally everyone who ever had a line on Once is there. 3 Link to comment
retrograde September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 It seems like literally everyone who ever had a line on Once is there. Given most non-regulars are probably in LA anyway, it is a smart move to bulk out the guest list with them. Pretty much guarantees they'll all be tweeting and instagramming the whole thing. 2 Link to comment
stealinghome September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 Plus, for them, free publicity. 1 Link to comment
Serena September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 Apparently even Eion Bailey is there? So the rumors of him and Once parting on less than amicable terms must be false. Or he really needs the free publicity. I wonder if MRJ will be there? 2 Link to comment
sharky September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 Yea, but it's been quite a bit of IMDB searches for me. Like who is that woman standing next to Colin? Oh, that was Cinderella, who was in one episode and NEVER worked with him. But you know, whatevs. ;) Link to comment
retrograde September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 I have to say, as much fun as it can be to rag on ABC's publicity dept, doing this a week before the TV premiere is a pretty smart move. It pretty much guarantees all the TV and entertainment media will be running interviews and photos all week long. Given just how many big shows are returning or premiering this week, that is no mean feat. 4 Link to comment
sharky September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 Apparently even Eion Bailey is there? So the rumors of him and Once parting on less than amicable terms must be false. Or he really needs the free publicity. I wonder if MRJ will be there? Didn't Jennifer Morrison make some mention on her Twitter recently that he was filming overseas? Link to comment
Aliasscape September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 It seems like literally everyone who ever had a line on Once is there. Haha, I was joking anyone who has ever breathed near the set of Once... I've not seen any photographic proof of Eion Bailey. I don't see Beverley Elliott or Meghan Ory either. Link to comment
retrograde September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 I was skeptical, but: Eion Bailey. Now if Sebastian Stan or Jamie Dornan shows up, then I'll be really impressed. 2 Link to comment
sharky September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 Why? Why did you have to put that thought into our heads? Ugh. ;) Link to comment
retrograde September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 Why? Why did you have to put that thought into our heads? Ugh. ;) Dornan did just fly into LA yesterday.... (But I seriously doubt it) 1 Link to comment
KingOfHearts September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 Is the actual premiere beginning at 7PM PST? Link to comment
sharky September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 (edited) Someone posted a picture of their ticket and its 6pm PST. Or at least that was the arrival time for the invitees, not sure if it actually starts then. Edited September 22, 2014 by sharky 1 Link to comment
Camera One September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 (edited) It seems like literally everyone who ever had a line on Once is there. Hopefully, it indicates that actually liked being on "Once", and being around one another. Edited September 22, 2014 by Camera One Link to comment
Serena September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 Adam and Eddy and the cast just introduced the show, and it seems they already took their seats. There was some fake snow, and now I'm guessing it's starting. Link to comment
Emma September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 Sarah (Aurora) and JoAnna (Ariel) are there too. Nice turn out. 1 Link to comment
Rumsy4 September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 (edited) I'm sorry for sounding mean, but why does Ginnifer Goodwin wear such unflattering colors? I thought it was just the Show's wardrobe department that had given up on her, but her personal style has been tending towards some odd choices. Edited September 22, 2014 by Rumsy4 Link to comment
sharky September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 The color is fine, the top just looks a bit dowdy. You have mom boobs, show them off! Link to comment
Jean September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 It cracks me up that Robert's go to outfit when they force him to do publicity is a white shirt and jeans. 5 Link to comment
daxx September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 It cracks me up that Robert's go to outfit when they force him to do publicity is a white shirt and jeans. I noticed that, only one not all dressed up. Link to comment
Souris September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 I love how Robert just gives no fucks whatsoever. 3 Link to comment
Jean September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 (edited) Same. I wish Robert would leave so I could quit this dumb ass show. Oh well here's hoping he goes "in episode 11 this will happen" to someone in the media line. And Georgina looks fierce. She carries herself well. I would buy her as royalty in a way no one else on the show has come close to. Edited September 22, 2014 by Jean Link to comment
pezgirl7 September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 (edited) Lots of photos from tonight, thanks to ABC's flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/disneyabc/ Beautiful people being beautiful! And wow, the girl that plays young Snow has really grown up. And more: http://screencapped.net/gallery/index.php?cat=54 The white background ones are... interesting. Edited September 22, 2014 by pezgirl7 Link to comment
Serena September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 Bailee is almost as tall as Jen now! Insane. Link to comment
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