B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[CharlizeCat]

It seems all Thomas wants is for someone to say yes to his proposal. At this point, it could be anybody. 

[KerleyQ]

On the other hand, I think her feelings for Thomas were a reaction to years and years of never being Liam's one and only, along with having it drilled into her head that he was the only person who could save her line, so he was some kind of heroic figure. She just kept mentioning how much she loved having someone who loved her and only her. It was part of damn near every conversation she had with Thomas. It always felt so clear to me that she was working some shit out with him (along with having better sex than the Waffle ever gave her, apparently). 

I think Finn is actually the kind of guy she really wants.  He's a devoted husband, and he's a genuinely nice and honest guy. Liam had the "nice guy" thing going for him but was a waffle. Thomas was devoted, but he's a psycho. And Thomas basically did the same thing to her that Liam did. Liam cheated on her with Steffy, waffled back and forth between them, and she kept taking him back, but the second she kissed Thomas, he just up and left, and suddenly Steffy was the one and only great love of his life. Thomas put Hope through hell of all kinds over the years. She kept giving him chances and then even got involved with him, which was what he has been saying he wants for years. But the moment she did something he didn't like and just asked him to be patient until she's ready for another marriage, he leaves town and immediately gets engaged to another woman. Both men had her up on this pedestal and expected her to put up with their shit, but the second she wobbled a little bit on that pedestal, they had to punish her, even though her wobble paled in comparison to all she's endured and forgiven from them. They're both toxic for her. 

[Peppermint]

2 hours ago, bluvelvet said:

 

Soo when do we find out that Finn is Luna’s daddy 😁

It's becoming more obvious "quick ! Jump ! An anvil !" that Li was terrified that Finn or Jack would turn out to be the LunaDaddy, therefore the paternity test must be falsified. Didn't F'n' matter if Poppy got a rich powerful man out of it, as long as the LunaDaddy was not one of Li's  men. Now mysteriously, Tom is part of the gene pool. 

Since Soap babies are rarely born in hospitals [ elevators, cars, abandoned cabins, forests ] and the ones that are, are usually switched, stolen, falsely die shortly after birth, it is quite likely that Tom could be the one who helped Poppy during her delivery behind a dumpster and knows who the LunaDaddy is. 

At least this is not yet another stupid corporate storyline about a business that does no business. Gimme some OG Sally Spectra please !!

Hope. Gather your dignity and pride and move on. Thomas is a sick puppy, Finn is a whipped puppy, Liam is an unhousebroken puppy. "Lie down with dogs and you get fleas ".

[Soapy Goddess]

Something just doesn't seem right about Thomas & Paris engagement. I'm  wondering if Paris, Thomas and Douglas are putting on a show to make Hope jealous. Otherwise why have Douglas already calling Paris "mom" when they're not even married yet!

Douglas is a smart kid, and if he really wants his mom & dad to be together, he can be persuaded to go along. And as a bonus, Paris can keep the ring!

[NinjaPenguins]

5 hours ago, Peppermint said:

Hope. Gather your dignity and pride and move on. Thomas is a sick puppy

Right? She should laser focus in on how he treats her relationship with her children. He let her think one was dead and weaponizes the other against her and her family when the mood strikes. Hope dodged a nuclear missile there. Maybe with time she’ll realize how lucky she is.

[RuntheTable]

What manner of Tomfuckery is this? We are expected to believe that Thomas has gotten over a decade's long obsession in a matter of weeks. I call raging bullhockey on that. Thomas is punishing Hope, that is all there is to it. 

Paris should know better. Thomas pulled this with her sister, not to mention what she herself went through with Carter. 

Hope wasn't that upset when she was married to Liam and found out he had laid some pipe with Steffy, and she might be carrying his child. She can be upset about it but let her have some damn dignity. Finn is going to be there to help Hope through this. 

Imma guess it will be about a hot minute before Steffy is changing her tune. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

5 minutes ago, RuntheTable said:

Hope wasn't that upset when she was married to Liam and found out he had laid some pipe with Steffy, and she might be carrying his child. She can be upset about it but let her have some damn dignity.

SO MUCH THIS and especially the BOLDED. I really thought she was leading up to ripping him a new asshole and then saying that he hadn't changed at all, while blathering about him being her North Star, constant, blah, blah, blah. But no. She ends up begging him to get back together.

Gurrrrl, all you need to know right now is make sure that you're the one Douglas calls "Mom/Mommy". I don't know if she can do this, but fight for custody. You ARE his legal mother.

[Js Nana]

15 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

It seems all Thomas wants is for someone to say yes to his proposal.

Right - if Paris hadn't been available, it could have been the daughter of the concierge of the building he and Douglas were living in.

[Js Nana]

The saying that comes to mind in the Thomas and Paris marrying within 8 weeks of hooking up is "Marry in haste, repent at leisure." - and Paris does seem to have a penchant for quickie engagements; remember how she and Carter hooked up and got engage in a New York minute, only to have Carter leave her at the altar to run off with Quinn - could there be a repeat of that scenario, with Thomas leaving her at the altar to be with Hope?

[Cool Breeze]

23 hours ago, nkotb said:

Paraphrased: “Thomas you were engaged to Paris’ sister, for God’s sake.” Finally someone acknowledged the weirdness of it, although, having Thomas’ stepsister, whom he was in love & sexually involved with, & with whom he shares a child, maybe isn’t the best person to point out the creepiness of it. 

Yeah, Hope, having been married to two brothers, including suddenly marrying one when the other was five minutes late?  She should probably just hush up on the weirdness conversation.

16 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

Him being "a one woman man" was his main appeal, and now that's no longer true. 

Well, Thomas was a one-woman man.  And still is.  That woman just isn't Hope.  Granted his recovery with Paris was very swift, it does feel as if Hope just thought he'd be around forever.  Just waiting for her.  Which, honestly, is more than a bit selfish.  Boy needs to live his life.

 

19 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Yes Paris, Thomas is over Hope 🤣🤣. Wishful thinking I believe.  

Of course Thomas isn't over Hope.  This is why he needed to return engaged to a brand-new character instead of Paris, a la Lily's return with Damian on ATWT.  With a new character, we wouldn't know whether she was just wishfully thinking Hope was out of Thomas' life or whether she was supremely confident in her relationship.  Which would intrigue the audience that would wonder what she knows that we don't:  "Maybe this new woman really is a badass who can get Thomas to forget about Hope?"

With Paris, the handwriting is on the wall and the clock is ticking.  We know she has no chemistry with Thomas and is a bit of a drip as a standalone character.  So no way is she going to make Thomas forget about Hope.  Just boring storytelling.

Edited June 26 by Cool Breeze

[CharlizeCat]

So Taylor used to be the moral compass and now Thomas is the North Star. All-right-tee!

[Js Nana]

. . . and didn't Paris have the hots for Finn when Steffy let her move in with them  - what if her being back in town and spending more time around Finn causes those old feelings to reappear - and talk about Thomas having trouble with women rejecting him, didn't Paris reject him back when they were roommates - and what if being around the unattached Carter raises old feelings where he's concerned - or maybe Zende will catch her eye now that she's back in LA.

[bluvelvet]

14 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

The saying that comes to mind in the Thomas and Paris marrying within 8 weeks of hooking up is "Marry in haste, repent at leisure." - and Paris does seem to have a penchant for quickie engagements; remember how she and Carter hooked up and got engage in a New York minute, only to have Carter leave her at the altar to run off with Quinn - could there be a repeat of that scenario, with Thomas leaving her at the altar to be with Hope?

 

Or Hope comes riding in on a white horse 😂 

Seriously though, the one thing that’s very evident is that Thomas is getting married for all the wrong reasons and also willing to throw a new baby in the mix.  With the talk of children are we getting a Hope WTD? Thomas and Finn/Liam?? I hope not. 

[ByTor]

On 6/20/2024 at 8:01 PM, KerleyQ said:

If Li wasn't so busy getting in her daily "you're a gold digger" shots at her sister, I'd be waiting for Li to start calling him this, too. Li calling her son "Steffy's Husband" would be even more fun than when Taylor was sleeping with Eric, so Steffy and Thomas started calling him Eric instead of Grandpa. 

Poor Taylor, walked all the way to France in her pajamas 🤣

[KerleyQ]

40 minutes ago, Cool Breeze said:

Well, Thomas was a one-woman man.  And still is.  That woman just isn't Hope. 

When he says "Paris and I have something special, too," that's not a one woman man. He's acknowledging that he feels something special for more than one woman. Just because he's engaged to one woman, doesn't mean he's a one woman man. Liam wasn't a one woman man when he was married. It doesn't make a difference. 

41 minutes ago, Cool Breeze said:

Of course Thomas isn't over Hope

Which, again, is a sign that he is not a one woman man. He's engaged to one but isn't over his feelings for another. That's just a page right out of Waffle's playbook. 

[Anna Yolei]

On 6/25/2024 at 11:56 AM, nkotb said:

So glad Hope spoke for us, the audience. Paraphrased: “Thomas you were engaged to Paris’ sister, for God’s sake.” Finally someone acknowledged the weirdness of it, although, having Thomas’ stepsister, whom he was in love & sexually involved with, & with whom he shares a child, maybe isn’t the best person to point out the creepiness of it. 

Given this is B&B we're talking about, I'm less concerned about Thomas bouncing between sisters as I am about his very clear pattern of manipulation to get Hope to do what he wants. That's the true weirdo behavior.

 

1 hour ago, KerleyQ said:

Which, again, is a sign that he is not a one woman man. He's engaged to one but isn't over his feelings for another. That's just a page right out of Waffle's playbook. 

That's just it: I truly believed Ridge believed he was in love and had feelings for both. Hell, even Liam was able to sell that for a little while in the early 2010s. Thomas on the other hand does not care one iota about the women he uses.

[Waldo13]

Tom, you are supposed to clean the toilet with the blue liquid not drink it. 

So Tom is a musician. Does that mean that Tom was also there at the music festival 20 years ago?  Was Tom in a relationship with Poppy before Poppy met Bill?  

Is Paris that dumb not to realize that Thomas is not on the rebound?  Does she realize that Thomas proposed to Hope less than a month a month ago.  

Thomas wanted to marry Hope so he could have a child with her. WTF?  Not only it was too soon, for Hope, but did Thomas ever discuss have a child with Hope.  

In keeping with the LA tradition, Stuffy had traded in her gas powered broom for an electric broom.  Stuffy now holds first place in the list of LA witches.  If I was Hope, I would dump a bucket of water on her head and watch Stuffy melt. 

[Artsda]

Tom drinking Powerade. Lol 

The forcing of Bill and Luna is making it seem like it is Tom the father or knows it's not Bill. "Oh it's just dad checking in for 3rd time."

Douglas calling Paris mom is the most ridiculous of this entire thing. Good for Hope for calling that out.  

So now Paris is just because he's not getting younger and he needs a child?

Paris is comparing her and Carter to Thomas and Hope? Not quite the same. 

Hope put Thomas through hell? Steffy then needs to run into the office to gloat and needs to be slapped. 

[Anna Yolei]

9 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

Hope wasn't that upset when she was married to Liam and found out he had laid some pipe with Steffy, and she might be carrying his child.

In Hope's marginal defense, it's LIAM. Even for the brief window of faithfulness we got out of him in 2019, certainly she couldn't have been that shocked 🤣

Real talk though,they could've dialed it back to a 6  or a 7, geez. The D could not possibly be that fire and vibrators are a dime a dozen in Southern California. 

28 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Paris is comparing her and Carter to Thomas and Hope? Not quite the same. 

Indeed. One was an ill advised waste of time as people thought one half of the couple could absolutely be doing better than this, and the other was Carter and Paris. 🤪

I have never hated her character as much as some other did but dear God Almighty is she stuck on stupid. Even worse, the inevitable downfall is projected so hard you can see it from space and it won't even been satisfying when her stupid ass gets dumped at the alter a 2nd time. Paris won't have Zende to lean on since he's so far up Luna's ass these days to pay attention to anyone else. Ugh.

[Anna Yolei]

On 6/25/2024 at 5:30 PM, Artsda said:

Is Douglas manipulating people or just stupid.  Acting like calling Paris mom infront of Hope was not wrong? 

As Douglas is not quite a teenager yet and given all the manipulation he's been subjected for the majority of his life, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. For now, anyway. My mom broke me out of calling my dad Dad at that age and even though he was a louse who was never deserving of the title, it still should've been my decision to come to and the feeling sucked, but what else can you do to keep peace? And my mom wasn't even as godawful as Thomas was. :(

All bets are off the day he turns 18 and I certainly hope Bill will let slip about both the "misunderstanding" and Caroline's subsequent trapping of Thomas into a relationship that he had genuine moved from since he wanna be all about "Daddy was good enough for her" with Hope. 😒

[Js Nana]

1 hour ago, Waldo13 said:

So Tom is a musician. Does that mean that Tom was also there at the music festival 20 years ago?  Was Tom in a relationship with Poppy before Poppy met Bill? 

Tom is a musician, was Tom at the same music festival 20 years ago as Poppy and Bill, was Tom in a relationship before Bill? - tune in tomorrow for the continuing saga of the lives of The Bold and the Beautiful.

17 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Paris can keep the ring!

Actually, no, Paris cannot keep the ring - under the law, an engagement ring is given in contemplation of marriage - no marriage and the ring goes back to the giver.

[bluvelvet]

So last year I said Hope's Logan genes activated NOW Thomas couldn't suppress those Ridge genes for long...

You know the one where one woman disappoints you and it doesn't take you long to jump to the other woman..

[hypnotoad]

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it does feel as if Hope just thought he'd be around forever.  Just waiting for her.  Which, honestly, is more than a bit selfish.  Boy needs to live his life.

Hope didn't want to get married immediately. That's it. I mean, it's understandable considering she's basically been married since her early 20's (or maybe younger?). She asked for more time.

Plus, Thomas has only been gone a couple of months. How is that waiting around forever?!?

If there is a character being selfish here, it's Thomas as far as I'm concerned. He's using Paris. He's manipulating Hope. He's once again manipulating his son.

And why? Because Hope wasn't quite ready to be married again. Yep, Thomas is the very picture of mature.

Thomas grosses me out and I wish the character was sent away permanently.

Also, did Paris learn nothing from her sisters situation with Thomas or her own with Carter? Apparently not.

And finally, show just stop with this Bill/Poppy/Luna nonsense. It's plainly obvious he is not her father. This insta love, insta family stuff is just awful.

And to add to the insulting crapfest, now the writers have to have Katie sniffing around and (I guess) wanting Bill back. Why oh why oh why? Katie and Carter certainly weren't super exciting but then again were they actually given any storyline at all? So show breaks them up offscreen and off we go to another rinse and repeat with Bill and Katie. Ugggghh.

Bring back Wyatt for Katie!!

[KerleyQ]

As soon as I was relieved that we were done with Hope begging the psycho, in sweeps Princess SuperBitch to gloat and be a general asshole. Yes, Steffy, Hope thought a kiss on the cheek was going to ensnare Thomas in her evil lair. 

I really want Hope to just be done with Thomas, because he's showing her who he really is. Being married, to anyone, was more important to him than building a relationship with her. "I thought if I just kept asking..." Asshole, the one thing she specifically and clearly requested of you was to not keep asking, to let her have some time to process her divorce and get to a place where she was ready to get married again. Why would you think that asking over and over again was the way to go when she was so fucking clear that it was not?  Just shows that Thomas never valued Hope as her own person. She was just the object of his obsession that he had to have, no matter what. And now he's pissed off at her because she dared to have her own feelings about things, so he's marrying the next woman he came across. 

When Paris was going on to Ridge and Steffy about how she knows she and Thomas are real and are going to move forward and be together forever, blah blah blah, I was wondering if Ridge was flashing back to him and Bill playing Statler and Waldorf at her disastrous non-wedding to Carter. 

So, Tom was a popular musician before he partied his career and good fortune away? Yeah, he was definitely at that music festival. Apparently Li is going to be right about her sister looking for rich men to suck dry. Makes you wonder if she knew who Bill was when they hooked up. Maybe she ditched Tom to hook up with Bill? 

Oh, and one more thing, why the hell did Hope not nail down Douglas spending a while with her at the cabin since he's been away with Thomas for months? 

Edited June 27 by KerleyQ

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, hypnotoad said:

Katie and Carter certainly weren't super exciting but then again were they actually given any storyline at all?

Nope! Bill beat his chest for a couple weeks and then it fell apart.

I want Katie and Bill to be with anyone other than each other, PLEASE :\

[Soapy Goddess]

5 hours ago, Js Nana said:

Actually, no, Paris cannot keep the ring - under the law, an engagement ring is given in contemplation of marriage - no marriage and the ring goes back to the giver.

Here's your emoji: 😉  I watch Judge Judy too 😁

[RuntheTable]

Yesterday felt like I was revisiting Show from twenty years ago when Brooke was begging Ridge not to marry Taylor. Brooke in disbelief that Ridge could be in love with Taylor after all they had shared, telling him it was not too late to call it off. And of course, right after Ridge left the room Stephanie would blow in on her broomstick to make Brooke feel as bad as she possibly could. Here is a good example:

So, Steffy is following in Grandma's footsteps, and has to come in to add an exclamation point to Hope's confusion and pain. 

I am beginning to think that Tom and Poppy had a fling that didn't turn out well. I feel like he was either an up and coming artist, or someone who was just starting to make it, and fell into drinking and drugs. He could also be Luna's father. I really don't think Li messed with the test, it was probably just a false positive. 

[sugarbaker design]

I love the fact that B&B has a character named Tom and one named Thomas.  Reminds me of heyday Y&R with the Johns (Abbott and Silva).

Can you imagine being poor Luna finding out one week that your long-lost daddy is a millionaire media businessman and then find out he's really a recently homeless, guitar-picking busboy at Il Giordino?  The shame!?

I finally figured it out.  Steffy has always reminded me of someone in real life, a real person, someone in the news.  I got it now.  Steffy has major Marjorie Taylor Greene energy.

[Cool Breeze]

To be fair, Thomas wanting to marry Hope "too soon" is not the aberration on this show.  Practically every character has done it, from his father to Hope herself (who married Wyatt because Liam was five minutes late because he had to jump into the Seine to rescue Ivy).  Hope's desire to wait/refusal is the unusual piece here.

[nkotb]

It is my fervent prayer that when Hope nails Finn for the first time, history repeats itself, via Hope’s DNA, & she calls Steffy for a listen. Bonus points if Finn Cha Cha Chas afterwards. Steffy is so smug & condescending & I can’t wait to see her knocked off her pedestal. 

[KerleyQ]

3 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

I am beginning to think that Tom and Poppy had a fling that didn't turn out well. I feel like he was either an up and coming artist, or someone who was just starting to make it, and fell into drinking and drugs. He could also be Luna's father. I really don't think Li messed with the test, it was probably just a false positive. 

This is where I am with this story now. Before they introduced Poppy and Tom having some kind of history, I was convinced Li fucked with the test because she feared it was Jack or Finn, but now it's looking like Tom is involved in that somehow, so, yeah, probably a false positive.

Also, they have clearly changed direction on this story for some reason. They set everything up to make it seem like it was Finn or Jack. We had Finn recalling how Poppy lived with them when he was college age, which lined up with the timing for her to get pregnant. We had her being so afraid to say who the father was. And we had Li's over the top hatred of Poppy along with her not even wanting Luna in town or around Finn. At some point, they seem to have decided to change gears. Maybe when they decided to do Hope/Finn, they didn't want him to be in two front burner storylines at once, or something. So they hurried up and did the Bill/Poppy/Luna happy family and tied Tom into it. 

58 minutes ago, nkotb said:

It is my fervent prayer that when Hope nails Finn for the first time, history repeats itself, via Hope’s DNA, & she calls Steffy for a listen. Bonus points if Finn Cha Cha Chas afterwards. Steffy is so smug & condescending & I can’t wait to see her knocked off her pedestal. 

I am so waiting for the first time they hook up and Steffy finds out about it. I'm happy to find that, based on their recent scenes and Hope's fantasy scenes, I actually like them together and think they have chemistry, but Steffy losing her perfect husband to Hope already had me invested in the first place. 

[sugarbaker design]

18 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

I am so waiting for the first time they hook up and Steffy finds out about it.

Same here.  I cannot wait.  I'm hoping for a full on Stephanie Forrester Jr stroke which finds Steffi in the seedy parts of LA, walking among the homeless encampments in a tailored pantsuit.

[Waldo13]

Live and learn. Clint Howard actually can sing and her has his own band called The Kempsters. 

 

Can Stuffy be anymore ridiculous?  She actually doesn’t care anymore about Thomas’ well being than Hope being out of his life. Ridge is actually stepping up to question Thomas about his engagement to Paris. Thomas doesn’t say anything about being in love with Paris. 

[Anna Yolei]

22 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

 Ridge is actually stepping up to question Thomas about his engagement to Paris. Thomas doesn’t say anything about being in love with Paris. 

Much like Brooke's newfound respect for the sanctity of marriage, I gotta ask where this involved version of Ridge Forrester Sr has been hiding and why he didn't clue in months ago with Thomas rushing Hope into marriage. 😒

5 hours ago, nkotb said:

It is my fervent prayer that when Hope nails Finn for the first time, history repeats itself, via Hope’s DNA, & she calls Steffy for a listen.

Such a shame cell phones are not as resilient to water as old corded phones supposedly were 🤣 

I'd suggest Sheila take incriminating photos to send to Steffy in a puzzle but that might fry her brain too quickly for having to use brain cells for something other than pettiness.

[Artsda]

Steffy is insufferable.  She cares more about hating on Hope than caring about her brother not making a mistake. Hope was right on calling that out. 

At least Ridge calling it out and really questioning this love. 

Steffy blames Hope for getting into everyone's head. Every episode, Hope has some secret powers. But in another second says Thomas is grown man who can make own decisions. Then claims things aren't her business to tell. 

So was Tom at the music festival. Lol maybe he needs a DNA test with Luna too. 

 

 

 

[Snaporaz]

Maybe the DNA test was accurate and Tom is a long-lost Spencer!

Edited June 28 by Snaporaz

[CharlizeCat]

Since I doubt this will happen, I will mention this. There were some teases a few weeks ago that Tom would be revealed as Deacon's long-lost father. 

[KerleyQ]

This episode largely felt like filler. 

Steffy is just the most insufferable character. I think I hate her more than Sheila. And I really hate Shela. At least people are allowed to call Sheila on her shit and say what she is regularly. The only pushback Steffy ever gets is being accused of making everything about her Forresters vs. Logans bullshit. And even that can only be uttered every now and then, and Steffy is allowed to gaslight away in response. I want Hope to try to slap her again, and, if Steffy grabs her hand to stop her, she can sweep the leg, in a cute nod to her father's Karate Kid work. 

I got rage-y when Paris said she was going to go get Douglas and get him some food. He has a mother who hasn't seen him for months. I think she can leave Princess SuperBitch's 10,856th lecture to stay away from whatever man Steffy has her undies in a wad over, to go get dinner with her son. 

Who is this man, and what has he done with Ridge?? 

On a shallow note, I cannot believe that the same people responsible for Hope's wardrobe are also responsible for the disasters that keep appearing on Steffy. 

[RuntheTable]

I think Ridge's words of caution to Thomas were springing from his own rich history of waffling. He is recalling all the times he proposed to Taylor because he was upset with Brooke, or when he needed to sacrifice his life with Brooke because he didn't want to hurt someone else, i.e. Eric. 

Just keep on poking that bull Steffy. Hope has a secret weapon she could pull out at anytime. 

[Chatty Cake]

Why can’t pizzas randomly show up at my house? Although I could do without the weirdo delivery guy. 
I don’t know why Hope wastes her time talking and listening to Steffy. Steffy hates her and is always going to be an asshole to her. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

10 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

Since I doubt this will happen, I will mention this. There were some teases a few weeks ago that Tom would be revealed as Deacon's long-lost father. 

Oh please no! I'd rather Opie Ron make a cameo and HE be revealed as Deacon's Daddy.

Watching that clip up thread-while I loathed Stephanie (but love/loved the actress), those scenes with Brooke, and hell all her scenes (until I stopped watching, and I think I'd stopped watching when Brooke was with Eric), Susan gives us nuance, with Stephanie's gloating and glee and gravitas. Whereas actress who plays "which wig can I wear that makes me look like the Cher doll from the early 80s that can go short or long with a push on my plastic back" Steffy, just comes off as a rabid, foaming at the mouth dog and bully. With no layers. First it was all "get out of Finn's head...stay away from my husband...." and now it's stay of out of Thomas's head, blah, blah, blah...

And how did I miss that Rick Webber ended up on this show?

[KerleyQ]

4 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

I don’t know why Hope wastes her time talking and listening to Steffy. Steffy hates her and is always going to be an asshole to her.

Seriously. She should have just walked right out of that office the second Steffy walked in. 

[bluvelvet]

WTF is wrong with Steffy, Hope has a name she isn’t “any Logan”. I mean at her big age she still stewing about daddy choosing Brooke. 
“I will not let you do to my brother what your mother did to my father all those years ago”— Bitch PLEASE!!

When are you going to hold your daddy  accountable for your messed up childhood. Last I checked Brooke wasn’t sleeping with herself. Also if history repeats itself, Hope and Thomas will eventually end up together after a merry-go-round of a few marriages.

Steffy needs to go pay attention to her husband who is playing in the psycho mommy pool. 
 

Btw, there was more heat in that look between Hope and Thomas at the end of today than there was with that awkward  kissing in the preview or the kiss in front of Ridge with Thomas and Paris.  

Edited June 28 by bluvelvet

[nkotb]

The whole Forresters vs. Logans squabble is just Steffy hating Brooke & Hope. The Logans never talk about it, Steffy is the only one obsessed with it. I’d love for Hope to get her bitch on & tell Steffy that a Forrester vs. Logan feud would be more effective with Ivy, as she’s a bio-Forrester. This show shits all over adoptive parents, this is their chance to go low. 
 

I wish they’d do a whole show of just smokin hot Hollis (I wish he hadn’t dated Brooke, he’d be a nice fling for Hope), sugary sweet baby daddy Tom (call me crazy, but he’s growing on me since he’s being fleshed-out), & Daddy Deacon. It’s far better than sickeningly sweet girldad $Bill, Steffy vs. Hope, & shockingly logical Ridge. 

Edited June 28 by nkotb

[Js Nana]

On 6/27/2024 at 11:48 AM, RuntheTable said:

He could also be Luna's father.

Well, he thinks he is; but if he is, how does that explain the Bill-is-the-daddy DNA test that Li administered - could Tom be some long-lost half-brother of Bill's, and that's why the test came out positive for a familial relationship between Luna and Bill?

[Waldo13]

Stuffy keeps harping on the Logan card. Stuffy, you slept with the same number of men as Hope. It’s 3 to 3 but Stuffy you needed two more paternity tests than Hope. 

 

Kyle, Hope was committed to you but you needed more.  Marriage is a commitment for now but it doesn’t mean for ever. Prime example, Thomas, is your father. 

 

What contrivance is the monkeys with a keyboard going to come up with to try to make Luna’s father Tom?  The DNA, which was administered by a licensed professional, Li, wrong.  Why is Poppy so secretive?  What would be wrong with hooking up with that one time rock star, Tom. Is it because Tom appears to be 20 years older than Poppy. Bill is probably 10 years older than Poppy.  

 

Senecios:

Tom and Poppy hooked up after she hooked with Bill and she was already pregnant.  Tom thinks Luna is his. 

Tom took care of Poppy while she was pregnant but blew the relationship when he cheated because he was a horn dog. 

 

[Js Nana]

Is Paris aware that if she had asked Thomas to give their relationship the test of a little more time when he proposed to her, that he would have angrily reproached her and gone on to the next one, just like he did to

Hope?

5 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

Kyle

Ah, it's that old "one-soap-opera-blends-into-another" syndrome -"Kyle" is on Y&R, it's Thomas that you mean.

[bluvelvet]

Again I ask - Is Thomas Steffy's brother or ex-lover...

Like eww...dis tew much...

It's like OG Stephanie and her weird obsession with Ridge.

ETA

While I loathe asking this - where is baby hulk aka RJ, I haven't watched since Thomas left so I don't know..

Edited June 28 by bluvelvet

[NinjaPenguins]

I must be getting soft, because I’ll feel bad for Luna if it turns out Bill isn’t her father. She just seems so genuinely happy and so does he.

Steffy can stop tossing her hair and rolling her eyes and smirking any time now.

Thomas seems obsessed with getting married. Lighten up, buddy. He could probably have kept his sick relationship with Hope going if he’d just backed off the marriage stuff.

[GHScorpiosRule]

UGH. It’s “an unexpected” Not “a unexpected “ you weasel faced psycho.

And just like with her husband, Steffy is patronizing Thomas, telling him how he should feel and what he should do, because he can’t think for himself. Not that I give any bluedilly figgedy FUCKS about Thomas.

And Bell? And your nimrodic maroons  of writers? You don’t have to be married to make a commitment to someone. Have they never heard of Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn? IF Thomas and Paris actually get married, I will laugh my ass off if she can’t get pregnant. Will he divorce her since she won’t be able to birth his spawn?

And sorry, even in his youth, Clint Howard was not good looking. So unless she was stoned AND drunk out her mind and thought Tom was Elvis in his heyday, I can’t believe she’d have sex with him.