Kymmi December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 I've got a bad feeling about 5.09 - based on nothing but MG's excitement, the mention of COMICS!, DR speaking of fans reactions to LL's death, the screenshot of "I know the ones you love" with Susan - none of it adds up to me to something that I am going to enjoy. It's possible this is not the show I'm looking for. 2 Link to comment
Mellowyellow December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 All this talk of people going berserk when LL died makes me wonder what would happen if they killed Felicity. Would fandom go berserk or would it be like "Omg we are freeeeeeee from this show. Freeeeeeeeee." Haha the latter is what I'd be like. 6 Link to comment
thegirlsleuth December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 I'm not a heavy duty comic person, but I was chatting with my dude, who is, and he said that Judd Winick comic mentioned by Guggenheim involves a Dr. Light who gets vengeful after he gets mind wiped by magic. He starts to regain his memories and targets everyone the Green Arrow loves. I know Stephen mentioned magic. Is there someone who was mind wiped in the early seasons? I can't think of anyone, and Guggenheim might have only cared about the vengeance. Our cracktastic theory which made us laugh ourselves sick: Billy Malone is Prometheus and is in fact Oliver's son William, time traveling from the future to get back at the dad who "made" him and abandoned him. It has the added bonus of Felicity swapping father for son, thereby maintaining Arrow's long standing tradition of icky partner swapping. 2 Link to comment
BkWurm1 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 58 minutes ago, thegirlsleuth said: Our cracktastic theory which made us laugh ourselves sick: Billy Malone is Prometheus and is in fact Oliver's son William, time traveling from the future to get back at the dad who "made" him and abandoned him. It has the added bonus of Felicity swapping father for son, thereby maintaining Arrow's long standing tradition of icky partner swappin And I think I just threw up a little in my mouth. Nope, a lot. Shudder. ;) 8 Link to comment
Sunshine December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 If Prometheus is so sure he knows who Oliver "loves" why isn't Susan's picture on his display wall which I presume is his "list". I would be more convinced by the promo if they had used a shot of Thea for who he loves. 1 Link to comment
way2interested December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 I think a better question is how did Prometheus get so good at secret photography, since some of the pics on that wall almost look like promo photos/stills from a tv show during scenes in which the characters were alone, thus making taking those photos really difficult. 7 Link to comment
insomniadreams88 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 49 minutes ago, Sunshine said: If Prometheus is so sure he knows who Oliver "loves" why isn't Susan's picture on his display wall which I presume is his "list". I would be more convinced by the promo if they had used a shot of Thea for who he loves. Yeah, there's no way that promo isn't a misdirect unless they're planning to completely ruin Oliver's character by having him "fall in love" with the reporter who just screwed over his sister and is likely planning to screw him over in the future. I'm hoping there's a reason we seem to know nothing about what's going on with Thea in in tonight's episode except for that photo on Prometheus' board, especially since we just had those great brother/sister moments in the 100th. 10 minutes ago, way2interested said: I think a better question is how did Prometheus get so good at secret photography, since some of the pics on that wall almost look like promo photos/stills from a tv show during scenes in which the characters were alone, thus making taking those photos really difficult. Maybe police cameras around the city? *cough* Mayo's access *cough* No, it's more likely that won't be explained whatsoever and that they're going to pretend Prometheus having those photos out of all the photos he could have makes complete sense. Link to comment
Cleanqueen December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 Im pretty sure Arrow will be better than that Flash midseason finale. Just finished it and it felt like another episode of Flash. Arrow better go big or go home. I don't expect a lot of olicity but I need some hint of a reconciliation and one of these irrelevant LI's dead or out of the picture. 5 Link to comment
tv echo December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 (edited) 11 hours ago, thegirlsleuth said: I'm not a heavy duty comic person, but I was chatting with my dude, who is, and he said that Judd Winick comic mentioned by Guggenheim involves a Dr. Light who gets vengeful after he gets mind wiped by magic. He starts to regain his memories and targets everyone the Green Arrow loves. I know Stephen mentioned magic. Is there someone who was mind wiped in the early seasons? I can't think of anyone, and Guggenheim might have only cared about the vengeance. Just a minor correction: the Judd Winick comic was not mentioned by MG, but by that DCTV guy (Hector). :) Edited December 7, 2016 by tv echo Link to comment
lemotomato December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 Suzanne must have forgotten the show was on tonight again. 13 Link to comment
bijoux December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 I was just about to say the same thing. It's the MSF, for pete's sake. 2 Link to comment
insomniadreams88 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 SA's tweet that "Oliver (redacted)(redacted)" makes me wonder if the entire purpose of Mayo was so that Oliver could "Kill Bill(y)." 5 Link to comment
Cleanqueen December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 7 minutes ago, Chaser said: Sneak peeks are taking forever..... Chico forgot to release them since they don't include Laurel Lance. 8 Link to comment
lemotomato December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 Just now, Cleanqueen said: Chico forgot to release them since they don't include Laurel Lance. I'll take that as a sign that BS isn't going to show up as the cliffhanger. Even if Chico can't spoil the appearance, she would be promoting the hell out of the episode just to get people to tune in. 4 Link to comment
insomniadreams88 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 1 minute ago, lemotomato said: I'll take that as a sign that BS isn't going to show up as the cliffhanger. Even if Chico can't spoil the appearance, she would be promoting the hell out of the episode just to get people to tune in. Isn't the rumor that BS breaks out at the end of The Flash 310 anyway? And with the way that the midseason premieres look to be scheduled, The Flash is back before Arrow in 2017. Link to comment
Chaser December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 She just sucks at her job. Arrow got a huge boost for the crossover, you would think she would want to capitalize as much as possible on it and PR the hell out of the episode. 13 Link to comment
Cleanqueen December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 24 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said: Isn't the rumor that BS breaks out at the end of The Flash 310 anyway? And with the way that the midseason premieres look to be scheduled, The Flash is back before Arrow in 2017. That was my prediction as well. I don't know why people still think she's showing up in this episode otherwise WM would've said she appears in our mid season finale and not 5x10. Link to comment
Chaser December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 20 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said: Isn't the rumor that BS breaks out at the end of The Flash 310 anyway? And with the way that the midseason premieres look to be scheduled, The Flash is back before Arrow in 2017. I think that's what is going to happen. So the photos that Prometheus is looking at, Lance is crossed out right? But Curtis isn't? I think based off of MG tease about Paul and Curtis, that Curtis is hurt early in the episode. I wonder if Prometheus is looking at the board at the end of the episode and Lance's life is hanging in the balance or something. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 December 7, 2016 Author Share December 7, 2016 (edited) 24 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said: Isn't the rumor that BS breaks out at the end of The Flash 310 anyway? And with the way that the midseason premieres look to be scheduled, The Flash is back before Arrow in 2017. Any idea where that rumor originated from? Flash will actually air 2 episodes before Arrow comes back (310 and 311) since Arrow premiere's a week + a day after Flash. ETA: I get the feeling that the Oliver dialogue tease is based on SA's movie choice. Edited December 7, 2016 by Morrigan2575 2 Link to comment
Chaser December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 That wasn't a rumor. It was just spec on the board after KC was confirmed for the episode and there being some relation to Flashpoint. Link to comment
insomniadreams88 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 Just now, Chaser said: So the photos that Prometheus is looking at, Lance is crossed out right? But Curtis isn't? I think based off of MG tease about Paul and Curtis, that Curtis is hurt early in the episode. I wonder if Prometheus is looking at the board at the end of the episode and Lance's life is hanging in the balance or something. I think that Curtis gets hurt early on (hence why he's not with Oliver, Diggle and WD confronting Prometheus/Evelyn - but where's Rory? Just out of the shot?), probably the image of him on the ground is the last thing we see before the ARROW title card. We don't see Curtis' photo on the board, do we? We can only assume he's one of the ones in the second row that we don't see ... I think Lance is crossed out because he's in rehab and out of play at the moment. 1 Link to comment
Chaser December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 You would think rehab would make Lance the easiest target. Link to comment
insomniadreams88 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Chaser said: You would think rehab would make Lance the easiest target. Yeah, but Prometheus can leave him be for the moment. He's not going anywhere until the writers decide they need him for something. 1 Link to comment
Velocity23 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 http://www.cbr.com/arrow-exclusive-clip-prometheus-takes-out-curtis-in-midseason-finale/ Sneak peak Link to comment
Sunshine December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 (edited) Maybe trying to frame Lance as Prometheus is why he's crossed off? Probably wasn't expecting him to go to rehab. Or maybe he just wanted him removed from the SCPD and Lance did it for him. Depends on Prometheus end game. Edited December 7, 2016 by Sunshine 1 Link to comment
statsgirl December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 I have to say, Curtis did better in that fight than I thought he'd do. Still such a mistake putting Curtis on the fighting team instead of back-up engineering support for Felicity. Quote Tonight on the Fall Finale of Arrow, Oliver (redacted) (redacted). Incredible episode. Don't miss it. 1. kills Bill 2, chooses Felicity, 3. fires TeamB, 4. rejects Susan, 5. buys a clue. I'd be happy with any of the above. Otherwise forget it. 12 Link to comment
ComicFan777 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 (edited) ...that sneak peek with Prometheus, Curtis, and Paul is like watching someone kick a puppy...No one should be kicking Curtis's Paul. Edited December 7, 2016 by ComicFan777 3 Link to comment
insomniadreams88 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 I'm just happy Paul's still alive at the end of that clip. So either Felicity's at the party and makes some sort of comment that calls Curtis' cover into question with Paul because he didn't bother to fill her in, or she's not there and someone else who is says something? 3 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 December 7, 2016 Author Share December 7, 2016 At least Hubby Paul is still alive :D 10 Link to comment
way2interested December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 From the new sneak peek, ah, so Evelyn took the pics. Thank you, Arrow, for attempting to answer my questions. Link to comment
insomniadreams88 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 From the Inside video, it does look like we're going to get the Oliver/Mayo meet at the holiday party. And that after Oliver gives his speech, both Felicity and Susan head for Oliver. Oh gag me. Link to comment
Mellowyellow December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 9 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said: From the Inside video, it does look like we're going to get the Oliver/Mayo meet at the holiday party. And that after Oliver gives his speech, both Felicity and Susan head for Oliver. Oh gag me. Ooh where is this? I don't know why but I really despise the reporter!!!!! And it's weird that they are trying to sell that she's important. It pisses me off!!!!! 2 Link to comment
insomniadreams88 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, Mellowyellow said: Ooh where is this? I don't know why but I really despise the reporter!!!!! And it's weird that they are trying to sell that she's important. It pisses me off!!!!! It's the Inside the episode video that the CW just released. And they put the reporter in a red dress. I may start preparing myself for her using a red pen to lead into the S1 Olicity flashback. Link to comment
bijoux December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 https://twitter.com/kalichica12/status/806614179327201284?s=09 People are speculating this is the Olicity flashback. It's not impossible, but there is a cut from the police station in present day to Oliver and Dig in the lair in S1, so it seems more likely that it's a present day scene. Link to comment
apinknightmare December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 I think it's probably them visiting Curtis in the hospital. Link to comment
insomniadreams88 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 I just posted the video in SPOILERS ONLY. And I'm guessing that hospital scene is them visiting Curtis. 1 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 December 7, 2016 Author Share December 7, 2016 Probably visiting Curtis. 1 Link to comment
Cleanqueen December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 7 minutes ago, bijoux said: https://twitter.com/kalichica12/status/806614179327201284?s=09 People are speculating this is the Olicity flashback. It's not impossible, but there is a cut from the police station in present day to Oliver and Dig in the lair in S1, so it seems more likely that it's a present day scene. The comments to this tweet...yikes are these people olicity fans? 1 Link to comment
Mellowyellow December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 9 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said: It's the Inside the episode video that the CW just released. And they put the reporter in a red dress. I may start preparing myself for her using a red pen to lead into the S1 Olicity flashback. The only thing that excited me about that clip was Felicity in a dress with a plunging neckline. Link to comment
statsgirl December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 33 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said: From the Inside video, it does look like we're going to get the Oliver/Mayo meet at the holiday party. And that after Oliver gives his speech, both Felicity and Susan head for Oliver. Oh gag me. I didn't see Felicity there. Susan in a red dress and walking towards Oliver is enough to make me rage. It's rubbing salt in the wound which I know Guggie loves to do but I don't like to take it. Link to comment
bijoux December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 Felicity and the cop are on the right. He's further back. Seeing Curtis taken out quickly actually makes me hope that WD and Rory are dealt with the same way, so that it's OTA dealing with Prometheus for the most of the episode. even if it doesn't turn out to be the case, Prometheus is actually doing Oliver a solid by taking out his largest liability in the field first. Link to comment
Carrie Ann December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 Stop ??comparing ??508??to ??It's a Wonderful Life?? I have no other thoughts because that line caused my eyes to roll back in my head and I missed everything else. 13 Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Cleanqueen said: The comments to this tweet...yikes are these people olicity fans? Fan talk..come on.. Also he does look mad. Not at her I hope, ;) Edited December 7, 2016 by Midnight Lullaby Link to comment
lemotomato December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 From the producer's preview, if Oliver considers the alien hallucination as his version of It's a Wonderful Life, doesn't that mean the show is treating it as a "what if" scenario rather than a "fantasy world"? So Oliver didn't actually want that life, but it made him more appreciative of what he does have in the real world? 3 Link to comment
insomniadreams88 December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 Just now, Midnight Lullaby said: Also he does look mad. Not at her I hope, ;) He's probably finding out that Prometheus attacked Curtis. I'd actually be confused if he didn't look mad, especially since, out of the recruits, he's known Curtis the longest. 1 Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 Just now, insomniadreams88 said: He's probably finding out that Prometheus attacked Curtis. I'd actually be confused if he didn't look mad, especially since, out of the recruits, he's known Curtis the longest. I know..I was making a joke! Link to comment
bijoux December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 7 minutes ago, statsgirl said: I didn't see Felicity there. Susan in a red dress and walking towards Oliver is enough to make me rage. It's rubbing salt in the wound which I know Guggie loves to do but I don't like to take it. I found a screencap on Twitter. https://twitter.com/cdavis011/status/806614308973121536?s=09 Link to comment
LeighAn December 7, 2016 Share December 7, 2016 It looks like Susan is his date to me. It's probably going to be Oliver decides post 100 trip to try starting something with Susan because he wants to live in the now or something (one more thing we can thank Laurel for, the gift that keeps on giving that one). If it's not a date/dating then Susan continues to be stalkery. Cue awkward times with Felicity. There's nothing I find more uncomfortable then when you have two women trying to get a guys attention at the same time like in that clip :( I'm assuming it will at the very least throw Felicity and silver lining hopefully break her out of her denial a little bit if she physically sees that Oliver is potentially moving on. Or knowing these writers Felicity will be "adult" and wish Oliver/Susan well and all four of them will share eggnog. 6 Link to comment
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