CPP83 October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 But then there would be a lot of complaining about another newbie taking up screen time (and rightfully so). Plus newbies created by Ron? Not a good mix. I agree that Ron is crap at creating new characters, there's almost too many on the show currently to name them all, but to me what's going on with Jakson is so similar despite it doesn't seem to matter. We're still getting, at least so far, an unrecognizable newbie that Ron is writing from scratch. I still think Ron's determination to get a Jason to write for, without the show caving into Steve's demands to do so, is really what's driving this whole thing. He tried to pass the role to Roger but apparently couldn't convince anyone that idea was good, at all, so then he grabs the Y&R alum member, the same soap which Steve just so happened to end up on, and slapped a "Jason" name tag on him and has seemed rather proud of himself ever since. I just feel like watching scenes where Jakson is making breakfast plans with Liz or he's immediately playing her "almighty defender" when he rouses from his slumber like a formally hibernating bear is so out of left field, hell it may as well be out of left orbit, for the beginning of a promising recast. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-472870
Cobalt Stargazer October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 I'm a fan of Nik, but even I guffawed at the weird chunks of hair that fell out of their mousse after he shook his head in rage. I got a very What's Eating Gilbert Grape feel, and I did not like it. His hair really was all There's Something About Mary today, wasn't it? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-472871
Rancide October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 (edited) Because he's not a woman-hating, murderous, ineffectual mobster? Just spitballin' here. (Before the argument starts - Nik has not always treated women well, for sure, but he has, to my knowledge, never kidnapped and threatened to kill a pregnant woman, shot a woman in labor (in the head!), or hooked a young woman on drugs to get her to strip.) Okay, the time when Nikolas cheated on Emily with [redacted]tney because Emily didn't get over her rape fast enough was a particularly low point. I blame Guza for that. But yeah, he's mostly in the top 50% of good behavior on this show. Being one of the very, very few characters who has never had a tinge of mob helps with that. (Patrick is another, which is why I won't ever hate him even though he's currently being kind of a dick). The character of Nikolas has so much potential. Why is he stuck off on an island splitting time between a 9 year old and a character whose only other real connection to the show is a bit player we see once a month? It's not like there's nothing for him to do. He's got a legitimate connection to a fair number of characters on the show who are involved in major plot lines. Alexis is his aunt. Sam is his cousin. Robin is unfreezing some of his dead relatives. His uncle recently tried to impregnate his sister. But all we can have him do is play straight man to Spencer? C'mon. Maybe this is fanwanking on my part because I wanted Robin/Nikolas when they were teasing it all those many years ago, when I'd grown to hate Jason and thought Nikolas might be her way out, but I'd love to see Nikolas involved in Robin's story. Someone needs to tell Patrick to sit his ass down, and Nikolas would be a good candidate to do that. TC plays angry and disdainful REALLY well, Nikolas and Robin have been friends for decades, and Patrick is currently trying to get in Nikolas's cousin's pants. But, no. We can't have that. Instead we have... Spencer. Edited October 16, 2014 by Rancide 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-472896
CPP83 October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 His hair really was all There's Something About Mary today, wasn't it? Well then it'd be pretty clear what kind of dream he was having. I actually thought Tyler did pretty well over all, he sort of reminded me of his younger days, a long, long time ago when I could watch him and take him seriously at this whole acting business, at least to a point. But I thought Kelly was...she really needs to stop trying to cry, like immediately, like yesterday, like last year. She's one of the worst "I thought crying involved tears" actors on the show, imo. It just isn't her strong suit, but on the plus side she doesn't make the sort of faces Kristen does...I shudder just thinking about them. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-472904
ulkis October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 (edited) While it is an admitted change of pace for GH, I must admit a part of me is still mystified as to why ANY 3rd party for Dante/Lulu has never gotten off the ground. There was Delores the cop, who vanished. Brook, as said, could have been a legitimate rival but instead became pretty much a prostitute and, thus, discredited. And crazy-assed Stavros doesn't count. I know we talk about constant cheating being uncreative, but the fact that Dante/Lulu have had no real tests in 5 YEARS together is mind-boggling as hell. I know GH needs SOME stability, but in their age range, IMO, they're too young for it. I thought Lulu's baby rabies may have been the start of some real conflict, but now that seems to have also faded into oblivion. I think Brook was nixed in favor of Brenda, and then VM put a stop to the Dante/Brenda baby and so Guza quickly put Lulu/Dante back together - then that whole summer Lulu was actually running around going nuts and actually broke up with Dante like 5 times; that's when Delores came on but as soon as Ron came on he sent her off and pushed Lante back together (well, actually, JFP was the one who decided they should get married, I think she had them married once Garin left officially but they were still following his scripts; both DZ and JMB were told they were getting married all of a sudden. So Ron inherited married Lante), and he pushed them off onto the backburner and then baby land. He flirted with Patrick/Lulu and Johnny/Lulu but for some reason dropped that. I suppose the reason he hasn't broken them up is he has a) little interest in them and b) he dragged out all this baby stuff because it's easy. I know I joke about Anna and Dante affairs but at this point I think any break-up by a third party would seem really really contrived (not that that would be anything new for this show). At this point, I would send the both of them off for 6 months months and have one or both come back alone/separated. An off screen break-up due to whatever reasons after a certain amount of time would seem more realistic than anything RC could come up with. JMB's exit also would have been a good spot to break-up Lante for a little while, but Ron missed the boat on that one. Edited October 16, 2014 by ulkis Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-472922
jsbt October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 (edited) I'm glad ulkis can fill in some of these blanks from the truly dog-ass later Guza years, to say nothing of Garin Wolf. My memories of that era beyond anywhere between 2005-2008 are just a series of little daily or bi-monthly blips. I'm just gonna say it: Adrienne Leon's Brook Lynn frightened me early on. There was a lot of big hair and crazy eyes, she had weird line deliveries, she reminded me vaguely of a werewolf. And maybe I'm remembering her introductory story wrong, but I didn't understand why they literally recreated the same godawful, incredibly unpopular "Flash/Sarah Roberts" storyline from OLTL three or four years before, where Buchanan heiress Sarah came back to town living on the streets as a teen runaway, going by the name "Flash," a singing prodigy whose rich family didn't recognize her. It was even more implausible with Brook Lynn, who was raised in the bosom of her families. And then there was the whole thing with Clive Robertson from Sunset Beach as Simon Cowell, and Dillon dressing up like a girl? What? I was under the impression Leon's Brook had been a massive, sad flop the first go-round, which is why they threw her under the bus for Diego, Georgie, Lulu, etc. and wrote her off as sort of the grumpy chick (which I found sickly hilarious, since I never liked her). Then she got a little heat and a fanbase over at Y&R, then Y&R dumped her for the Australian chick, Frons got hot to steal another CBS 'get' and back she went to GH again, suddenly golden to ABC for about ten more minutes. Except she'd lost a lot of weight, and they tried to make her over and change her whole look - I didn't mind because I didn't think 'punk' Brook Lynn worked, but the quasi-hooker angle was really unfortunate. I do think she had chemistry with Tyler Christopher and some with DZ, but they didn't use her right, mostly because I don't think Guza ever cared. Brook was wasted. They do need to do more with Dante and Lulu, but RC doesn't care about them either. And if she came back Brook would probably be turned into another disastrous riff on NuKristina - troublemaking heiress who doesn't know what's good for her is back in town! Maybe with a reality show, and a hot, arrogant new boyfriend who is really just a lonely little boy on the inside! Where have I heard this before? Edited October 16, 2014 by jsbt Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-472958
WTActualF October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 I'm just going to pretend that Billy Miller's character is a totally new guy. Or a version of Lucky that I don't want to murderdeathkill. B/c thinking of him as Jason is just… ehhhhhhh?!? I do like Brad and Liz's hate toward each other. I'm catty like that. Though Liz should've thrown even bigger bitchface - that's her raison d'être. Also, Dr. Facial Reconstruction Surgeon… maybe you should consider retiring? "I'm surprised I was able to reconstruct your face having never seen you before!" Well, no shit, Sherlock. You did a horrible job. Though Billy Miller is handsome, so thank you for that. Jordan's gorgeous and awesome. Why is she even talking to Shawn? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-472987
HeatLifer October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 (edited) Maybe this is fanwanking on my part because I wanted Robin/Nikolas when they were teasing it all those many years ago, when I'd grown to hate Jason and thought Nikolas might be her way out, but I'd love to see Nikolas involved in Robin's story. Someone needs to tell Patrick to sit his ass down, and Nikolas would be a good candidate to do that. TC plays angry and disdainful REALLY well, Nikolas and Robin have been friends for decades, and Patrick is currently trying to get in Nikolas's cousin's pants. But, no. We can't have that. Instead we have... Spencer.I would love to see Robin/Nik explored if the writers were actually able to concoct a decent story, although I don't see Robin going there because of Liz.Also, Nik was already involved in Robin's last kidnapping (I can't believe I just typed that), and I think if Ron is trying to salvage Scrubs in ANY WAY, he needs to have Patrick the one to save the day. I'm sorry, but Patty either needs to be the hero this time or the writers need to officially let go of that pairing. Edited October 16, 2014 by HeatLifer 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-472988
Ambrosefolly October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 I wouldn't mind if Adrienne Lyon returned. For those he liked Carlos, but hate Sabrina, I think that a Carlos/Brook Lynn pairing would work. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473051
SwordQueen October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 (edited) Nik and Silas were so energetic today. It's like the poppy-induced haze has lifted on the GH set and some of the menfolk are finally waking up. How dare Brad not acknowledge Jakeson's unconfirmed name, that he's had for all of one day???!! Man, Liz is a straight-up, first class, grade-A bitch. She started that shit as soon as Brad walked in the room, and yet, she sure can't take it. And, please, with Jakeson coming to her rescue. He doesn't even know either of them -- hell, he doesn't even know himself, yet he thinks he has all the information he needs to throw in his two cents? Hey, those are actually pretty Jason-like qualities! Maybe I'm not giving Ron enough credit -- or maybe, definitely too much. Poor Tracy. Poor, stupid, duped Tracy. Maybe if Luke were actually worth it, and had ever shown her an ounce of the same, her blind-loyalty towards him would mean something. Sabrina is done. Someone stick a (pitch)fork in her. Any and every good quality she ever had is gone. Which might not be such a bad thing if her character had a purpose on the show. Britt and Brad continue to be the cutest. DM and CT have been great. Britt and Spencer could have been cute, too, without all of the stupid games, and a kid who acts like Hugh Hefner on a sugar high. I wish they had a legitimate parental bond, because I like the actors together. I think it's about time for Nina to be in another coma. I guess she had a lot of leg cramps from being in that chair, because that is the only reason I can come up with as to why she's running all the time, now. She can't do anything just a little bit, can she? Also, this is my first taste of MS, and, no thanks, I'm already full. Carly and that necklace continue to bug -- that thing is sooo distracting. Why the hell does she even want Sonny? He treats her like shit. Sonny is just... ugh, I can't. No, fuck it, I can. Sonny is one of the most miserable, self-centered, narcissistic, misogynistic, unintelligent, whiny, chicken-shitted, orange, little man with Napoleon Syndrome and a big set of man boobs, I have ever seen. Okay, that felt good. You should all try it. I hate Kiki. She's back. Jordan's gorgeous and awesome. Why is she even talking to Shawn? Forgot to comment on this. I'm really liking Jordan and I hope she gets to play a bigger role in taking down Fluke, instead of staying stuck in Hitman Hell with Shawn. I want to see Anna and Jordan kick some ass. Throw in Nathan, Dante, and Julian, and I'll watch the hell out of that. Edited October 16, 2014 by SwordQueen 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473091
Turtle October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 I think it's about time for Nina to be in another coma. Yes. So much yes. And I have an idea of a few people that can join her in coma-land. A LIST, if you will. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473211
Lillybee October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 Please put Sonny in a coma that should last for over 20 years. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473217
OnceSane October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 Why is anyone acting like this deal with Jerry is a go? Sam only gave Tracy the proxy for the shares, not the shares themselves. And she can yank it back at any time. I guess since Ron forgot about that detail, we should too. Ugh. Britt' s dream was so obviously fake, I couldn't get into it. Like Nik would bother with a tray of food, he'd just bring some shackles from the catacombs. Unless Rosalie's big secret is she's a man, I don't give a shit. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473227
P3pp3rb1rd October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 Why didn't Ava ever catch on that the pills might be making her sick, since the retching starts after she swallows one? Cause-and-effect, Ava. Cause-and-effect. Oh how I wish Dr Obrecht would get herself back as COS at GH ASAP. Can't you just see her sashaying into nuJason's room, comment frostily on Liz's unpaid devotion and flirting, insult Liz's professionalism, and assign her more overtime shifts as punishment? Maybe giving Liz a good-bye pop on the rear as she sidled by could be overlooked too. So Magna is pristine in her courtly red-orange outfit but without a sou in her tiny purse. She is homeless, but wearing Chanel. I thought Donna was done. Get her off my TV screen. So if Britt got access to the dynamic peen of the Prince last night, could she be preggers already? And hey! If not, a helpless perfect embryo from Lante is still available and adorable in P C's Macy's window! Deja vu all over again, Possums....go for it Britt. Keep your Prince. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473271
TeeVee329 October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 So Ron inherited married Lante, and he pushed them off onto the backburner and then baby land. He flirted with Patrick/Lulu and Johnny/Lulu but for some reason dropped that. There was also the brief Amensia!Lulu/Milo garbage, which I think Ron was definitely all set to go deeper with before the audience rightfully revolted in disgust. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473298
NutmegsDad October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 Even though we call him "Jake.... from State Farm", I imagined the scene where Jason browbeats Brad into apologizing as Mongo: "Jake no like evil gay minion being nasty to pretty skinny nurse. Evil gay minion now say sorry to pretty skinny nurse. Jake just pawn in game of ReRon." I think a) Jerry works for Fluke, b) Jerry, on Fluke's orders, is throwing suspicion off of Luke by having him pretend he's holding Luke hostage, and c) the real Luke is still locked up in Miscaviage. Add d) Helena and the Cassadines are working for Fluke. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473424
sometimesfan October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 Let's see: Magda killed the pharmacist and tried to kill her daughter sending her into a coma for more than two decades. I know she tried to shoot up Sam as well, but I don't care because that would practically be a public service, whatever... Yet Magda got off on a technicality? On the other hand, Carlos is languishing in prison for a crime he didn't commit. And then there's Johnny. If memory serves me better than it does Ron, isn't Johnny in prison for killing Cole and Hope from OLTL who can't even exist any longer in GH history? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473455
Francie October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 There was also the brief Amensia!Lulu/Milo garbage, which I think Ron was definitely all set to go deeper with before the audience rightfully revolted in disgust. If I had to guess, I don't think the audience rightfully revolting in disgust is what derailed Lulu/Milo. It was the Deception storyline being scrapped. Milo was going to be their model. Laura and Lucy were going to run it. And Lulu would have an association with both Milo and Laura. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473529
Chairperson Meow October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 I don't find Milo attractive. At all. Now, I'd buy Nathan, Jakeson, OG AJ, Morgan as models. They have sculpted, symmetrical faces. Tyra Banks told me that makes a good model. Before the pot ledom days, of course. Now she's like Ron level. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473545
Mrs OldManBalls October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 I'm actually looking forward to whatever Franco has planned for Carly and Sonny. I'm beyond done with those two. They stand in judgement of everyone else, but don't take responsibility for any of their despicable actions. You have one job Franco, don't let us down. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473738
TeeVee329 October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 If I had to guess, I don't think the audience rightfully revolting in disgust is what derailed Lulu/Milo. It was the Deception storyline being scrapped. Milo was going to be their model. Laura and Lucy were going to run it. And Lulu would have an association with both Milo and Laura. I dunno, the setup for the Deception storyline didn't happen until a month or so after they very abruptly veered away from Lulu's amnesia. Like jsbt has said before, Ron thought he could get away with the same hated crap he did with Teen!Jess on OLTL and it failed even faster. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473751
Tiger October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 Oh yeah, the show couldn't afford GF on contract nor a Deception set. Yet magically, it could afford MSt and BM. MSt isn't that much younger than GF and while the later certainly isn't praying-mantis thin, I think is a lot more attractive than the former, and a hell of a lot more talented to boot! Not to mention, Laura Spencer is an iconic daytime character with connections all over the canvas. Nina Clay is a nobody that very few people give an ish about. Rant over. Definitely. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473797
TeeVee329 October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 (edited) I really think Ron has written himself into quite a corner with Ava's pregnancy because every scenario is going to invoke a negative reaction: If Ava's baby dies = "Oh great, another dead baby, fuck you, Ron." If Ava's baby lives and it's Sonny's = "Oh great, Sonny has yet another kid, fuck you, Ron." If Ava's baby lives and it's Morgan's = "Oh great, because being tied down with a baby worked so well for Starr, fuck you, Ron." If Ava's baby lives and is kidnapped by Nina = "Oh great, because we haven't seen this story a million times, fuck you, Ron." Edited October 16, 2014 by TeeVee329 24 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473826
testardo October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 Carly thought of herself that way, but I think it was more of a protective measure/defense mechanism. It gave her the justification for every heinous act she perpetrated, and it allowed her to whine about how put-upon she was every time one of her stupid plaaans exploded in her face. If Carly is a victim of anything, it's believing she's unaccountable for anything. You hit that nail right on the head. carley went after Dante because he told Michael to confess about decapitating his step mother. .She didn't even care that she was also hurting her family, cousin lulu. Only Sonny made her careful of how far she went to hurt *His Son*.Not watching this mess hardly at all. I will watch franco take her down. BUT. Jason will probably wake up be Jason M and she will win again. I will go back to not watching again . This show is nothing if not predictable . 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473872
Cattitude October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 I'm just going to pretend that Billy Miller's character is a totally new guy. Or a version of Lucky that I don't want to murderdeathkill. B/c thinking of him as Jason is just… ehhhhhhh?!? I do like Brad and Liz's hate toward each other. I'm catty like that. Though Liz should've thrown even bigger bitchface - that's her raison d'être. Also, Dr. Facial Reconstruction Surgeon… maybe you should consider retiring? "I'm surprised I was able to reconstruct your face having never seen you before!" Well, no shit, Sherlock. You did a horrible job. Though Billy Miller is handsome, so thank you for that. Jordan's gorgeous and awesome. Why is she even talking to Shawn? I loathe Brad so I loved Liz and her bitchiness b/c Brad could not wait to gloat to her about Britt so I was all for BM going all Jason on him. I thought having no history of Jason that when he layed the smackdown on Brad Jason looked kind of scary for a millisecond. Jordan is the BAMF woman of GH I wish she'd kick Shawn in the balls. Nik was one of my favorites when I first started watch and of the characters I actually like he is the ONLY one I've gone from liking to being disgusted with. So, yah I don't really feel his character is all that great if I can still find Sonny likable, in a not serious kind of way even with MB poor acting, but Nik is starting to make my skin crawl complete with BAD HAIR. I will blame Spencer b/c Spencer and Kiki ruin everything. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473877
testardo October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 Oh yeah, the show couldn't afford GF on contract nor a Deception set. Yet magically, it could afford MSt and BM. MSt isn't that much younger than GF and while the later certainly isn't praying-mantis thin, I think is a lot more attractive than the former, and a hell of a lot more talented to boot! Not to mention, Laura Spencer is an iconic daytime character with connections all over the canvas. Nina Clay is a nobody that very few people give an ish about. Rant over. Definitely. The thing with MS over GF is.With MS he can stick it to Kill Farren Phelps . Plus Then he would have to bring on more Spencers. Luke would look rotten, Tracy would look even dumber ,and the fans might have enjoyed the stories this could have brought about. Re-Ron is the boss .I have come to the conclusion he puts out what he wants. He knows best. next thing you know he will have Dr O singing Mutter knows best from Tangled. Disney movie , Disney song . 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473887
dubbel zout October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 (edited) Edward offered her money and a place to stay if she went to college and Brook refused. I really don't get the hatred this show has for higher education. It's not as if we need to see anyone in class. But for Michael, at 23 (or whatever), to be CEO of ELQ with a high school diploma—did he even graduate?—is absurd. He should be taking night classes at the very least. And don't even get me started on college and the wimmins. I guess getting a degree gives them less time to obsess over babies. GAH. There was Delores the cop, who vanished. They're still working on her software upgrade. JMB's exit also would have been a good spot to break-up Lante for a little while, but Ron missed the boat on that one. They sort of did break up, with Lulu living with that dolt Milo. But it was the stupidest reason for a separation. Unless Rosalie's big secret is she's a man, I don't give a shit. If only the secret could be that awesome. But it's probably something idiotic like Rosalie's dad is the one who blahblahblahed, and we're supposed to care. WE NEVER CARED. Oh yeah, the show couldn't afford GF on contract nor a Deception set. Yet magically, it could afford MSt and BM. GF might not have liked the story they had planned for Laura. In hindsight, she's probably relieved she isn't involved. Edited October 16, 2014 by dubbel zout 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473890
TeeVee329 October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 (edited) I really don't get the hatred this show has for higher education. It's not as if we need to see anyone in class. But for Michael, at 23 (or whatever), to be CEO of ELQ with a high school diploma—did he even graduate?—is absurd. He should be taking night classes at the very least. And don't even get me started on college and the wimmins. Seriously, didn't we meet both Bryan Craig Morgan and Kiki when they were both enrolled in college? Did they graduate? Just stop going? And it's crazy how many of the younger set have no jobs (Lucas, Maxie) or have jobs that are completely off-screen (Lulu). Edited October 16, 2014 by TeeVee329 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473917
Cobalt Stargazer October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 I'm pretty sure Morgan was taking classes with Kaka when they met, and then he got involved in the gambling stuff, which brought him and Melon Head to Port Chuck to get money from Michael. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473931
Bringonthedrama October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 How dare Brad not acknowledge Jakeson's unconfirmed name, that he's had for all of one day???!! Man, Liz is a straight-up, first class, grade-A bitch. I actually thought Liz showed restraint, considering what a straight-up first class immature douche POS Brad continues to be.Brad couldn't care less about the name/personality of nuJason - he called him "John Doe" while the patient was sitting right there,conscious and coherent. His motives for remaining in a room where he doesn't belong (as a lab tech) were to objectify an attractive mysterious patient and to brag to the nurse he doesn't like in front of said patient about a colleague being back in a guy's bed. I have no words for how gross and unprofessional/inappropriate that is. If I'm in a hospital bed recovering from almost dying and major surgery, the last thing I would EVER want or feel is okay is someone on the medical staff blatantly checking me out and talking about the sex lives of strangers. This is not to say that Liz has been this great professional nurse toward NuJason, but to be fair I see him being very flirty with her. NuJason doesn't know Brad at all and Liz very little, but you don't have to know these two to understand the behavior is douchey and inappropriate. It's not like Brad stopped Liz to say this crap as she was leaving the hospital. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473959
TeeVee329 October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 (edited) I didn't like that the presentation of the scene was, "Oh thank goodness Jake(son) was here to save Liz and force an apology out of Brad like the angelic hitman he is!". Liz doesn't need anyone to fight her battles for her. And like I said yesterday, Liz is not above petty gloating (see her hopping a launch to Spoon Island to gleefully inform Britt about the illegal DNA test she did instead of going directly to Dante and Lulu) so having Jake(son) rescue her from it just seemed silly. Edited October 16, 2014 by TeeVee329 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-473992
peachmangosteen October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 (edited) Even though we call him "Jake.... from State Farm" ... I guffawed! Thank you. This is what I will refer to him as now as well. The Nik/Britt nightmare pissed me off so much. It went on for too damn long and there isn't a chance in hell anyone believed it was real. I hate that kind of misdirection. Jordan is perfect in every way. And then I remember she actually likes Shawn. I guess everyone has a flaw. Edited October 16, 2014 by peachmangosteen 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474033
Chairperson Meow October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 I'm still clinging to my fantasy that Jordan is really Keesha and TJ is AJ's secret son. Because it's better than Jordan/Shawn and I need Jordan/TJ away from Shawn. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474088
OnceSane October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 Let's see: Magda killed the pharmacist and tried to kill her daughter sending her into a coma for more than two decades. I know she tried to shoot up Sam as well, but I don't care because that would practically be a public service, whatever... Yet Magda got off on a technicality? On the other hand, Carlos is languishing in prison for a crime he didn't commit. And then there's Johnny. If memory serves me better than it does Ron, isn't Johnny in prison for killing Cole and Hope from OLTL who can't even exist any longer in GH history? He also killed his grandpadad, Anthony. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474104
Chairperson Meow October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 No one gave a fuck about Anthony. Plus, Anthony murdered tons of people. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474110
testardo October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 He also killed his grandpadad, Anthony. Anthony was a lunatic murderer. That was a blessing to the world. I think Johnny was the only mobster this show ever had I liked. He didn't want to work for his father.. Anthony had a hit woman and next thing you know he kills her in Johnny's apartment.. he did the world a favor ,Cole and Hope were never anything on this show. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474192
Chairperson Meow October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 Cole and Hope weren't much on any show to be honest. Johnny did all of soaps a favor. He needs to return. My list is Johnny, AJ, and Dillon. For now. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474199
sometimesfan October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 He also killed his grandpadad, Anthony. He'll always be Belker to me from "Hill Street Blues", and his character had his quirks, but I can't get too choked up over his loss. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474245
Tiger October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 Eh, I didn't give a damn about coleandhope. As far as im concerned, Anthony's only crime was in not killing Starr too. Dumbitch lived to shoe-horned in on Laura & Lulu's first scene together in years . . . :grumbles: 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474247
dubbel zout October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 having Jake(son) rescue her from it just seemed silly. But how else would we know they have a profound bond that can't be broken even by amnesia? As always, Ron takes the sledgehammer approach. No one gave a fuck about Anthony. He was aces with finger puppets! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474250
Cobalt Stargazer October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 No one gave a fuck about Anthony. I can't ever entirely hate Anthony, because he coined the name LooLoo, which I occasionally lengthen to Loony because of the baby rabies. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474270
ulkis October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 Eh, I didn't give a damn about coleandhope. As far as im concerned, Anthony's only crime was in not killing Starr too. Dumbitch lived to shoe-horned in on Laura & Lulu's first scene together in years . . . :grumbles: I'm still wondering what the hell that was about. "HI LAURA I'M SUCH A HUGE FAN I'M STARR FINALLY WHAT ALL THE GH FANS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR STARR AND LAURA INTERACTION". What in the heck. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474272
rur October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 (edited) I really think Ron has written himself into quite a corner with Ava's pregnancy because every scenario is going to invoke a negative reaction: What if Nina kidnaps Ava's baby and flees PC for Chicago and while she's heading for downtown on the El there's a terrible accident that kills both her and the baby and they are never seen again? That'd work for me … I'm pretty sure Morgan was taking classes with Kaka when they met, and then he got involved in the gambling stuff, which brought him and Melon Head to Port Chuck to get money from Michael. And Kaka was enrolled at PCU for a while: remember when they brought her into the GH lab to solve some kind of problem because she was taking a chemistry class?* I guess she's dropped out now, though. We've certainly never seen her with anything that looked like a book of any kind. * just realized that might have been Starr, but I dunno, so I'm leaving the rest of the post up because regardless of the character's name, she's not on my favorites list. Edited October 16, 2014 by rur 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474273
SwordQueen October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 (edited) I actually thought Liz showed restraint, considering what a straight-up first class immature douche POS Brad continues to be.Brad couldn't care less about the name/personality of nuJason - he called him "John Doe" while the patient was sitting right there,conscious and coherent. His motives for remaining in a room where he doesn't belong (as a lab tech) were to objectify an attractive mysterious patient and to brag to the nurse he doesn't like in front of said patient about a colleague being back in a guy's bed. I have no words for how gross and unprofessional/inappropriate that is. That was after she snarked at him (in front of said patient) for not calling PatientWithoutAName, anything but Jake (From State Farm). She threw shade from the moment he stepped in the room. Why not fling some back at her? That's what she can't handle; having her own shit served to her. eta: I liked Anthony, as much as I could any nutty mobster. He did give us LooLoo (which is all I hear when I see her name) and he liked Maxie's moxie -- which would have worked if they had gone with JoMax. Edited October 16, 2014 by SwordQueen 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474307
NutmegsDad October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 I really think Ron has written himself into quite a corner with Ava's pregnancy because every scenario is going to invoke a negative reaction: If Ava's baby dies = "Oh great, another dead baby, fuck you, Ron." If Ava's baby lives and it's Sonny's = "Oh great, Sonny has yet another kid, fuck you, Ron." If Ava's baby lives and it's Morgan's = "Oh great, because being tied down with a baby worked so well for Starr, fuck you, Ron." If Ava's baby lives and is kidnapped by Nina = "Oh great, because we haven't seen this story a million times, fuck you, Ron." If Ava's baby lives and comes out SORASed due to the medication = "Oh great, another pet instead of a vet, fuck you, Ron." If Ava's baby comes out zombiefied and eats Sonny = "Oh great, hopping on the Walking dead trope, fuck you, Ron." 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474318
TeeVee329 October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 And Kaka was enrolled at PCU for a while: remember when they brought her into the GH lab to solve some kind of problem because she was taking a chemistry class?* I guess she's dropped out now, though. We've certainly never seen her with anything that looked like a book of any kind. * just realized that might have been Starr, but I dunno, so I'm leaving the rest of the post up because regardless of the character's name, she's not on my favorites list. Yeah, that was Starr. She was trying to crack the Pickle Lila recipe during the Great Relish Saga. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474324
NutmegsDad October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 He also killed his grandpadad, Anthony. If Fluke is discovered to be Anthony, then I'm loading the train for a Nathan/Maxie/Johnny triangle. His boys can travel in the quiet car with the hi-speed wi-fi. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474332
Chairperson Meow October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 Ellie was there. Character who also should have stayed. Ugh. I liked that Papa Z pissed off characters I dislike (besides Johnny), but if I have to choose, I'll take Johnny. It eliminates the characters recapping to each other. Jasus McBain you know he has ever fucking crime recorded. Anna, cut him a damn deal. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474342
Cobalt Stargazer October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 * just realized that might have been Starr, but I dunno, so I'm leaving the rest of the post up because regardless of the character's name, she's not on my favorites list. Shit, I think you're right, that was Starr. This show is destroying my brain. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474348
NutmegsDad October 16, 2014 Share October 16, 2014 The Nik/Britt nightmare pissed me off so much. It went on for too damn long and there isn't a chance in hell anyone believed it was real. I hate that kind of misdirection. Britt's imagination made the leap that when Nicholas called the cops for an intruder, they would be arriving to arrest her for Spenser's misadventures. I'm just surprised they didn't show up as voracious clowns in uniforms. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3259-episode-discussion-tfgh/page/221/#findComment-474349
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