Episode Discussion: TFGH

[Francie]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Never underestimate the ability of GH to get worse.

1 hour ago, sacrebleu said:

Agreed. All other submissions are now honorable mentions. 

[fishcakes]

Even setting aside the Stavros grossness factor, Lulu's obsessive desire to replicate her DNA is hard to understand, when you consider that her own lineage is mostly shitbags and crazy people.

[stlbf]

3 hours ago, movingtargetgal said:

Tracy thought of Sabrina as a daughter, that's why she wanted to know what Michael's intentions were for her.  I really enjoyed their relationship.  In fact her scenes with Tracy were the only times I really liked Sabrina.  Jane Elliot is magic. Tracy will be devastated by Sabrina's death.  

But WHY did Tracy think of Sabrina as a daughter?  Tracy has loved Lulu for years now. But Lulu has spent time with Tracy. Sabrina took care of Avery for not much more than a couple of months. And it was like Tracy and Sabrina were besties/mother-child. Tracy barely could be bothered to spend time with her own granddaughter, but Sabrina?  She is a mother hen. Tracy could never stand good girls. 

1 hour ago, linsav said:

Diego killed both Georgie and Emily. Georgie for showing up instead of Maxie and Emily because Sonny ordered the hit on Alcazar and Jason carried it out.

And don't forget, Michael's real mother, Leticia.  

19 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Why not simply make Rocco sick? And they have to find a half-sibling from Lulu because only maternal DNA can I don't know blah blah fake science stuff.

That could work. Toddler Lulu had a medical condition that required a bone marrow transplant from Nik. 

[ulkis]

Actually it would be interesting if Lulu got the baby but she actually started having Stavros flashbacks and she couldn't bring herself to get close to it after all. But the whole town would probably be all "omg Lulu you're a horrible person" for it. 

[dubbel zout]

41 minutes ago, ulkis said:

I would like it if someone simply pointed out to Lulu that pregnancy isn't always this amazing, transformative experience. Sometimes it's months of unpleasant discomfort before a baby is born.

She wouldn't care.

43 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Why not simply make Rocco sick? And they have to find a half-sibling from Lulu because only maternal DNA can I don't know blah blah fake science stuff.

Maybe we'll find out Rebecca Budig is somehow related to Lulu.

[ulkis]

Lulu should say, "hey, you're Sonny's son, and you turned out fine." Of course, I think even most of us can admit Stavros is another level than Sonny, but still, it would be fun!

[stlbf]

5 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

She wouldn't care.

Maybe we'll find out Rebecca Budig is somehow related to Lulu.

Easy. Make Naomi Laura's half sister via her biological father. Wasn't his name Grey? And a  married professor of Leslie's? 

[YaddaYadda]

32 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Really. CD was pretty underwhelming, too. This whole thing is so stupid I can't.

That whole story was terrible. I'm not really buying that Michael was in love with Sabrina. She just came at a moment in his life where there were more downs than ups and he latched onto her. And Felix was crazy underwhelming. I felt nothing watching those two.

And the editing of the episode was incredibly bad. I know I have the show on as background noise, but the way the episode was put together felt like there were either scenes missing, or they didn't give a fuck. One of the scenes cut to Michael at the door trying to get in and freaking out, and I wasn't sure what happened, and how we got from him being on the floor next to Felix when he was feeling for a pulse to that display of screeching and being barred from entering the room. Maybe I fell asleep and didn't realize it.

I really hate Ava. She really is the female Sonny minus the love. Watching her go around like she's the queen of everything. Paul shoves Liz down a flight of stairs for something she didn't even know, and kills Sabrina, but with Ava, he just gives her everything she wants. He folded like a deck of a cards. He's completely inept.

[ulkis]

44 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

I'm surprised ER isn't a raging alcoholic by now. Lord knows I want to take a drink every time Lulu says 'embryo.'

It's ER, so she probably makes a bracelet every time she says embryo. Her dressing room is probably covered in knick-knacks and sweaters by now.

[HeatLifer]

8 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

That whole story was terrible. I'm not really buying that Michael was in love with Sabrina. She just came at a moment in his life where there were more downs than ups and he latched onto her. And Felix was crazy underwhelming. I felt nothing watching those two.

It really was a showcase of what GH has become. Someone was just murdered. THIS is when you should have an OTT reaction. 

[TeeVee329]

2 hours ago, HeatLifer said:

I think thinking about Monica in terms of her relationship with his kids is new, yes. 

Jason has had many, many scenes over the years where he expressed regret about pushing the Q's away and how they needed him.

When he got his memories back, they did throw in a scene where he said he felt bad about pulling away from her and Alan, now that he was a parent, and that he was going to try to do better.  And I think that's one of the last times they spoke on-screen lol.

44 minutes ago, fishcakes said:

Even setting aside the Stavros grossness factor, Lulu's obsessive desire to replicate her DNA is hard to understand, when you consider that her own lineage is mostly shitbags and crazy people.

Seriously.  The DNA she's touting resulted in Luke and Carly.  Yeesh.

[IWantCandy71]

I was gonna try to watch, but all the Jason mentions just make me sick. Can't do it, not even for Jane. Don't think Tracy will die now, but if Jane is leaving, I could see her killing Paul and possibly going to jail for it. 

[HeatLifer]

6 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

When he got his memories back, they did throw in a scene where he said he felt bad about pulling away from her and Alan, now that he was a parent, and that he was going to try to do better.  And I think that's one of the last times they spoke on-screen lol.

LOL. And that's what I mean. He's been saying this crap for decades. And then goes back to whatever he was originally doing.

[TeeVee329]

Previews...I'm TERRIFIED about the previews making a big deal out of Carly introducing Nina to Nelle.  If they waste Chloe Lanier on being Nina's stupid coma baby when she could have been Serena or Christina...

[ulkis]

3 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Previews...I'm TERRIFIED about the previews making a big deal out of Carly introducing Nina to Nelle.  If they waste Chloe Lanier on being Nina's stupid coma baby when she could have been Serena or Christina...

Why would Nelle want revenge on Carly if she's Nina's daughter though?

[TeeVee329]

That's true.  But, oh did my stomach lurch when I saw that preview.  Nina's been up in this story for a while, there's her baby rabies, etc.

[movingtargetgal]

Nelle could be Nina's coma baby AND want to revenge on the rich and privileged women whose child received the kidney that was ripped out of her body when she was a child.  Nelle is probably a great multi-tasker.

[TeeVee329]

Hell, maybe Nelle's the one Paul's been calling.

[OnceSane]

Let's ask Johnny's guys…they will know.

[KerleyQ]

7 hours ago, Oracle42 said:

I think the idea was something like hooker as sex therapist to help Michael deal with rape trauma. It was fairly distasteful especially since they did that in lieu of actual therapy for quite awhile 

Could you imagine them doing this with a female rape victim?  "Here, I got you an escort to get you over your rape.  Don't worry, he's paid up for the night!" 

6 hours ago, Melgaypet said:

I don't recall if Sam actually intended for Abby to have sex with Michael, but I do remember this super gross tone to the whole thing. Kristina tried to set him up on a date with a school friend of hers (the one that died in that bus crash, I believe) and Michael freaked her and himself out with his rage issues, so Michael wanted a woman he "wouldn't have to worry about hurting." Yeeeeeah. If I were Abby, I don't know that I'd consider Sam much of a friend.

"Here's a disposable sex worker for you to take out your rage on, Michael."  With friends like that... 

4 hours ago, CreamedPeas said:

Ava talking to everyone like she wants to fuck them is weird, but when she does it with her own brother, it's sickening. 

Yeah, those two are all kinds of inappropriate.  

41 minutes ago, movingtargetgal said:

Nelle could be Nina's coma baby AND want to revenge on the rich and privileged women whose child received the kidney that was ripped out of her body when she was a child.  Nelle is probably a great multi-tasker.

We'll know she's Nina's if she pulls a crayon list of her evil plans out of her bra next time she's alone.  

[Baxter]

I surprised myself today. I wasn't expecting to be sad at the thought of Sabrina dying. A couple of years ago, I would have been the first cheering her off my screen, but she's grown on me and, god help me, I like her and Michael together. So the question now is, who will get Teddy?

Please let Michael or Tracy be the one to catch Paul. And not Sonny. 

[bannana]

I am actually glad Julian is going to get off, because he may as well, everyone else does.  Well except Liz's bro and Patrick's bro (I think).  I so dislike Alexis now that I am glad she is going bonkers and will be forever tormented at the thought of Julian walking around free, well until she falls back into bed with him.  

I strangely felt bad for Sabrina lying there on the bed all dead-like. 

I actually like Ava for reasons I don't understand so I am truly glad that Paul isn't going to kill her.  He can't really last much longer running around killing people in broad daylight, can he?  But he will have to be killed because otherwise he would take Ava down with him.

[YaddaYadda]

4 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

Could you imagine them doing this with a female rape victim?  "Here, I got you an escort to get you over your rape.  Don't worry, he's paid up for the night!" 

Remember when Jax was raped by Irina and Carly said he cheated on her? Good times!

[teenj12]

Was surprised that the show made it a big point to note that what happened to Lulu (in regards to the embryo) was assault. Knowing GH these days, I was expecting them to kind of gloss over it, but if anything it just makes the whole storyline even more ridiculous. Lulu's trying to chase a hypothetical embryo that is a mix of her and her brother's father's DNA through physical assault and violation of her body. I know that having a second baby is everything for her, but at some point she should really just count her blessings.

Edited September 15, 2016 by teenj12

[TeeVee329]

Jason: I'm gonna do better by you, Mom, I promise.

Monica: Does this mean you'll stop being best friends with the man who murdered my son, your brother?

Jason: Let's not get crazy now!

[HeatLifer]

3 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Jason: I'm gonna do better by you, Mom, I promise.

Monica: Does this mean you'll stop being best friends with the man who murdered my son, your brother?

Jason: Let's not get crazy now!

Monica: So what exactly will change?

Jason: I'll let you babysit my kids for free. And you can acknowledge me in public on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

Monica: Oh, my son, can I get a Saturday, too?

Jason: We'll do this on a trial basis.

[movingtargetgal]

Today was the best acting TC has ever done on this show.  Sabrina was an annoying character played by a horrible actress.  I don't know why Sabrina was on the canvas so long.

[KerleyQ]

30 minutes ago, Baxter said:

I surprised myself today. I wasn't expecting to be sad at the thought of Sabrina dying. A couple of years ago, I would have been the first cheering her off my screen, but she's grown on me and, god help me, I like her and Michael together. So the question now is, who will get Teddy?

Please let Michael or Tracy be the one to catch Paul. And not Sonny. 

Ideally, Michael and Tracy would solve it working together.  Bonus points if this brings up memories of AJ's death for Michael, and he regains his disgust with the mob life (if not with Sonny and Carly, specifically, which would, of course, be my dream version, but at least it could have him kind of backing away from being all in with them).  

JE was amazing today.  I loved everything about her scenes begging Monica to survive.  

[TeeVee329]

Oh geez, I was rewatching Tracy and Michael's dragging of Carly from yesterday and no they did not use Kish's song, "My Confession", as the background music.  Once again, show, that song is reserved for when a rascally med student and geeky cop consummate their love while fireworks are literally going off.  Although I'm sure Kyle would have appreciated the ho-checking Tracey and Michael were doing.

Edited September 16, 2016 by TeeVee329

[HeatLifer]

32 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

Ideally, Michael and Tracy would solve it working together.  Bonus points if this brings up memories of AJ's death for Michael, and he regains his disgust with the mob life (if not with Sonny and Carly, specifically, which would, of course, be my dream version, but at least it could have him kind of backing away from being all in with them).  

Sigh.

[stlbf]

Does the fact that the first thought that crossed my mind at seeing Michael's little box of pain, was "Gee, Mikey, I hope that you kept that receipt around." make me a truly bad person? 

Also, how on earth does GH not have cameras on main hallways? Especially with a damn serial killer on the loose? 

And of course the PCPD just lets Michael be alone with the body and fucking touch her. Way to protect the evidence and chain of possession, dumbasses!  

Lulu, you have a kid with your dna. You stupidly named him Rocco. Adopt an embryo! Use a donor egg and your husband's sperm. Look into fostering! Although Dante is a moron as a police officer, he did bring up valid point about you having STAVRO'S SPAWN. Maybe you mother and father wouldn't be thrilled with you giving them a grandchild by your Mom’s other RAPIST. Just a thought.

Of course, Jason brings back Monica. He is St. JASUS. I'm in shock that he didn't find Sabrina and just whisper to her and bring her back from the dead.

[HeatLifer]

LMAO. I can't. I really can't. 

[Melgaypet]

Michael Logan is nuts. "Really interesting. True heroine." Uh-huh. Maybe someone should remind him of that time Sabrina, uh, connived to kill an unborn baby.

[TeeVee329]

Oh yeah, she was a true heroine, teaching us that women aren't worthy of love until they ditch their glasses and straighten their hair, and that it's cool to be smug as shit once you get a boyfriend.

[HeatLifer]

Just now, TeeVee329 said:

Oh yeah, she was a true heroine, teaching us that women aren't worthy of love until they ditch their glasses and straighten their hair, and that it's cool to be smug as shit once you get a boyfriend.

And that if you want to screw a guy, just pretend like you care about his dead wife and babysit his daughter.

[dubbel zout]

52 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

JE was amazing today.  I loved everything about her scenes begging Monica to survive.  

She is such a pro.

LOL at Lulu being stunned that Daphne didn't actually live on Cassadine Island. No way someone would try to fool her! FFS. 

Poor Dante and Kevin. Lulu's baby rabies is no match for facts and logic.

Another LOL at Sonny wondering what Ava was talking to Paul about. There's a kegger later, Sonny, and you're not invited! 

Oh, lord, the budget is so strained the show can't afford to show a jury. There aren't even day player spectators in the gallery.

How weird must it be for an actor to lie there and pretend to be dead or unconscious and have other actors monologue over you? I wonder if LC or TeCa fell asleep.

[Bringonthedrama]

1 hour ago, teenj12 said:

Was surprised that the show made it a big point to note that what happened to Lulu (in regards to the embryo) was assault. Knowing GH these days, I was expecting them to kind of gloss over it, but if anything it just makes the whole storyline even more ridiculous. Lulu's trying to chase a hypothetical embryo that is a mix of her and her brother's father's DNA through physical assault and violation of her body. I know that having a second baby is everything for her, but at some point she should really just count her blessings.

This embryo-seeking journey of hers could ... possibly ... be compelling if Dante and Kevin got her talking and she acknowledged that, deep down, this is about fulfilling a fantasy: a whole, secure/happy family in a home because she wants to give herself and Rocco what she didn't have growing up due to Laura's mental illness and Luke being Luke. The Lulu character has voiced jealousy more than once in the past that Lucky grew up having a close bond with both their parents, living adventures with them before she was born, etc. She felt alone (in part because of the age difference between Lucky and Lulu) as a child and so she doesn't want her son to feel that way. BUT this show clearly doesn't have writers capable of tackling that kind of material.

[Oracle42]

Yes, there should be nice girls. And those nice girls should be portrayed by actresses whose performances are more interesting than watching paint dry. They should also be at least a little three dimensional

Edited September 16, 2016 by Oracle42

[TeeVee329]

And do nice girls lie about their babies' paternities both times they get pregnant? 

[ulkis]

9 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Poor Dante and Kevin. Lulu's baby rabies is no match for facts and logic.

Kevin was married to Lucy, this hyper craziness shouldn't even phase him.

But I've  been watching early Lucy and she wasn't annoying back then, I admit.

[jsbt]

How many times must I warn you to Leave Lucy Alone

I'm quite happy Sabrina is dead but I can't believe another of Michael's love interests is killed and that he'll probably be saddled with her fucking baby at age 23 or w/e

Edited September 16, 2016 by jsbt

[TeeVee329]

19 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Kevin was married to Lucy, this hyper craziness shouldn't even phase him.

I can't think of any of Lucy's wacky schemes that even touched the hem of...this.  I would even take her ranting about vampires than one more second of Lulu's baby rabies.

Edited September 16, 2016 by TeeVee329

[HeatLifer]

10 minutes ago, jsbt said:

I'm quite happy Sabrina is dead but I can't believe another of Michael's love interests is killed and that he'll probably be saddled with her fucking baby at age 23 or w/e

It's Demon Child's karma, though. It all makes sense.

[ulkis]

Just now, TeeVee329 said:

I can't think of any of Lucy's wacky schemes that even touched the hem of...this.  I would even take her ranting about vampires than one more second of Lulu's baby rabies.

I don't mean the scheme itself, but just the general frantic demeanor. :p

12 minutes ago, jsbt said:

I'm quite happy Sabrina is dead but I can't believe another of Michael's love interests is killed and that he'll probably be saddled with her fucking baby at age 23 or w/e

I think if JE retires Tracy will the baby. Or that's why they created Uncle Joe, so he can take it. Unless Michael's next story is custody fight with Uncle Joe. Nooooo.

[TeeVee329]

Michael's romances have always been so boring and lightweight.  

[jsbt]

Now it's time to make Doctor Joe bi. I actually find Parisse tolerable in what little I've seen of him in the role, and I was soooo fucking sick of him.

[TeeVee329]

3 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Unless Michael's next story is custody fight with Uncle Joe. Nooooo.

Sadly, I think it is, Michael/Tracy again Uncle CarrrrrrJoe.  Meanwhile, isn't Sabrina's dad supposedly still alive?  Wouldn't he get first crack at custody?

[ulkis]

Just now, TeeVee329 said:

Sadly, I think it is, Michael/Tracy again Uncle CarrrrrrJoe.  Meanwhile, isn't Sabrina's dad supposedly still alive?  Wouldn't he get first crack at custody?

Cousin Juan will be a dark horse contender.

[HeatLifer]

1 minute ago, TeeVee329 said:

Michael's romances have always been so boring and lightweight.  

That and Chad just...isn't good at romance. 

[Melgaypet]

7 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Michael's romances have always been so boring and lightweight.  

They've always put him with ingenues, which is a mistake, since Michael himself is basically an ingenue. Maybe Chad would perk up if he was paired with a bad-girl type. Maxie, maybe? Though she's not so much "bad" anymore as "ditzy."