Episode Discussion: TFGH

[LeftPhalange]

1 minute ago, LexieLily said:

So why is Paul the killer?

See, what had happened was

*commercial break*

8 minutes ago, ulkis said:

How can the writers be so incompetent? 

They don't take any pride in their work or have any self respect. As bad as Ron was, at least he seemed to enjoy what he was doing. These people are clearly just here for a check and can't be bothered to hide it. 

[ulkis]

4 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

Well, I bet Richard Burgi is happy. So he can get the hell off this sinking ship and go back to primetime.

I saw this comment elsewhere:

He even said in the magazines he didn't get why he didn't get more scenes with Tracy and addressing the family issues with Dillon or explore that and he was hoping to play more depth (ha ha on GH there is no depth). 

Silly Paul Burgi. They have to concentrate on Nina.

2 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said:

See, what had happened was

*commercial break*

It was a dark and st - 

*two weeks later*

Someone describes the dark and stormy night and everything that happened in a two minute exposition scene, probably delivered by Ava.

Edited August 29, 2016 by ulkis

[Darklazr]

2 hours ago, Oracle42 said:

Hayden is Jeff Webber's daughter. TFGH: FV edition.

 TIIC created an actual opportunity to tell a GH story and instead we're getting some dumb shit about a pointless badly written, badly developed FV/RC creation with vets as supporting characters to her bullshit non-drama

This.  WTF?!  I don't care about HateChel.  How hard was it to write Dr. Naomi Webber was in NY for some medical conference and stopped in PC to see Elizabeth and not this BS with HateChel.  

[WendyCR72]

1 minute ago, ulkis said:

I saw this comment elsewhere:

He even said in the magazines he didn't get why he didn't get more scenes with Tracy and addressing the family issues with Dillon or explore that and he was hoping to play more depth (ha ha on GH there is no depth). 

Silly Paul Burgi. They have to concentrate on Nina.

Well, the last time Richard Burgi was on daytime soaps, it was in the '80s (Another World) and early '90s (Days of Our Lives as Kim Brady's second hubby that was not-Shane named Phillip...until Shane again), and he was probably remembering when the writing was better and thought GH would be similar.

Poor Richard.

[TeeVee329]

18 minutes ago, ulkis said:

And another thing. Where does the conflict and shock of reveal come in, if Lulu is the first to bring up the embryo? What's the point of having Helena bring her an envelope at all? It should have been a bombshell to Lulu that the embryo still exists, or that a child might be out there. How can the writers be so incompetent? I have a headache.

Think of the soapy drama if Lulu had made peace with not having any more biological children and then the embryo had entered and she and Dante had struggled with whether they could make he/she a part of their family.

But Lulu so enthusiastically leaning into the idea of impregnating herself with Stavro's baby...WHAT?!?!

And yeah, Helena's will/gifts turned out to be a whole lot of nothing, except maybe the knife's use in the Alexis story.  Poor Hells.

Edited August 29, 2016 by TeeVee329

[YaddaYadda]

I have no idea what's going on right now.

[Darklazr]

2 hours ago, magnolia11 said:

Richard Burgi probably begged to be let out of his contract so he could return to far less embarrassing prime time gigs.

RB should have been cast as Dr. Jeff Webber in town due to a separation from his no name wife and he could have romanced Anna, Tracy, Laura, Olivia, etc... and we would not need this BS with HateChel.

[HeatLifer]

8 minutes ago, ulkis said:

I know! I thought you and the Jason reveal as I was typing that. I try not to be all "I could do better" cause I would suck at writing a soap in general, but seriously. I think most of us could guess that this is not the way to go. I mean, this whole scenario shouldn't have been written in the first place, but since it is, they've actually chosen the most improbable path possible. What. the hell.

And it honestly displays, to me, that they have no idea what stories to give women on this show. It's outrageous how many babies and baby-centric stories have happened in the span of one to two years. Sabrina, Ava, Nina, Lulu, Sam. Is this a joke?

[ulkis]

Just now, HeatLifer said:

And it honestly displays, to me, that they have no idea what stories to give women on this show. It's outrageous how many babies and baby-centric stories have happened in the span of one to two years. Sabrina, Ava, Nina, Lulu, Sam. Is this a joke?

But they don't even all have to be bad! Lulu should have had a one night stand with Johnny and gotten knocked up with his kid after he left town. Cue some scene where Dante sees Lulu visibly pregnant and he gets all excited and then he realizes it couldn't possibly be his kid and he runs away and takes his anger out on an innocent target, like, say, Sonny!

What?

[TeeVee329]

[LeftPhalange]

8 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

And it honestly displays, to me, that they have no idea what stories to give women on this show. It's outrageous how many babies and baby-centric stories have happened in the span of one to two years. Sabrina, Ava, Nina, Lulu, Sam. Is this a joke?

Lulu needs to be mentioned three or four times because it feels like she's been crying about a fucking baby for 82 trillion years. And don't even get me started on that custody battle from hell over the crypt baby.

Edited August 29, 2016 by LeftPhalange

[Darklazr]

Lulu's constant baby rabies crap is why I did not care Dante broke Valerie's back.

[lovelynn]

Paul as the killer? Disappointing. Julian was in the hospital recently. Why didn't Paul just take him out instead of wasting time and trying to prosecute him. He is all over the map. What a mess. Poor Dillon.

Finn's look of surprise after Hayden slapped Liz was amazing. Hayden rewriting the Jason reveal timeline to suit her purposes was obnoxious. Liz took a tumble down the stairs and she wasn't even pregnant, boring.

[TeeVee329]

I just don't get it.  Lulu has a biological child.  She has a biological child with Dante.  And there are ways for her to expand her family or even experience pregnancy via an egg donor or something that are WAAAAAY more believable than leaping right to the Stavlu embryo as an option.

[YaddaYadda]

Is Lulu going to lose interest in that baby too once she finds out it's not an embryo that can be implanted?

Also, this whole serial killer storyline is ridiculous. 

[Harmony233]

I don't really watch much anymore but is lulu claiming Rocco isn't her child because she didn't carry him or some crap.

[Lillybee]

14 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

I just don't get it.  Lulu has a biological child.  She has a biological child with Dante.  And there are ways for her to expand her family or even experience pregnancy via an egg donor or something that are WAAAAAY more believable than leaping right to the Stavlu embryo as an option.

That's exactly what I was going to say. If she wants a bio connection to said embryo, she could ask Valerie to be the donor.

[Darklazr]

2 hours ago, lovelynn said:

Paul as the killer? Disappointing. Julian was in the hospital recently. Why didn't Paul just take him out instead of wasting time and trying to prosecute him. He is all over the map. What a mess. Poor Dillon.

Finn's look of surprise after Hayden slapped Liz was amazing. Hayden rewriting the Jason reveal timeline to suit her purposes was obnoxious. Liz took a tumble down the stairs and she wasn't even pregnant, boring.

HateChel can hardly admit she was a pussy for hire and wanted to sleep with Jake Doe, Ric and Nik.  HateChel had no problems living and sleeping with Nik when she knew he tried to kill her ass.

Edited August 29, 2016 by Darklazr

[ulkis]

15 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Is Lulu going to lose interest in that baby too once she finds out it's not an embryo that can be implanted?

Hopefully!

[ulkis]

33 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I have no idea what's going on right now.

Who are you, Passanante or Altman?

[HeatLifer]

28 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said:

Lulu needs to be mentioned three or four times because it feels like she's been crying about a fucking baby for 82 trillion years. And don't even get me started on that custody battle from hell over the crypt baby.

Meanwhile, Rocco was seen roaming the streets of upstate NY.

[TeeVee329]

9 minutes ago, Harmony233 said:

I don't really watch much anymore but is lulu claiming Rocco isn't her child because she didn't carry him or some crap.

She hasn't said that exactly, but there's definitely this gross undercurrent that he doesn't count because she didn't get to carry him herself.

And yeah, if she's sad about the embryo not being viable, wouldn't she be all over Rocco?  Where is he?

[Perkie]

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She hasn't said that exactly, but there's definitely this gross undercurrent that he doesn't count because she didn't get to carry him herself.

I don't see that.  She's a woman with fertility issues who wants to carry the baby herself.  As someone who's had fertility issues (that were resolved) I get where she's coming from.  It's the same as the women who feel they MUST deliver naturally and not by C Section, or MUST breastfeed even if they can't because it somehow makes them less of a woman.  Some women truly beleive that.  

What I don't get is the obsession now with the Stavros embryo.  Does she really believe that's a good option?  Does she really believe that Dante will be ok with that, even if he says he is.  I mean, w'ere not talking about a normal person's embryo but a wackadoo with a boatload of wackadoo DNA, who also happens to be her brother's father, which makes her baby genetics really really icky.  

[rur]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Oh, FFS. Paul is the killer? I'd rather it be Andre with DID. And way to hide the evidence, Paul, by walking around with a hypodermic needle visible to all.

 

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

Speaking of terrible reveals, Paul's the hospital killer?  Paul?!?!  That makes nooooo sense.  And again, we have a super corrupt cop or DA vs. our heroic mob sweethearts.  UGH UGH UGH!

 

1 hour ago, ulkis said:

I think Paul may officially be soap character with the most 180s in the least amount of time. Lord. Poor original dull Eckert-era Paul.

 

1 hour ago, magnolia11 said:

Richard Burgi probably begged to be let out of his contract so he could return to far less embarrassing prime time gigs.

 

I will give TPTB credit: most of the talk on various boards was about Andre being the killer, so Paul was a nice surprise. A few days ago, after Val found the cufflinks, he was shown adjusting his cuffs in the police station. I noticed it, then wondered if all the men in suits were going to be shown doing the same thing for the next few days, but forgot to watch. So, kudos there, show.  But the syringe today -- a little on the heavy-handed side. Give the viewers some credit. Ava's flashback and his guilty behavior in Monica's office would have been enough. (GH is, I guess, the only hospital in the world where the dangerous drugs and spare syringes were kept in the COS's office.)

Now, if Paul's bad guy side is coming back out, can we also have him as the one who wounded Sonny since almost all of us remember him with gun in hand after the fact? And maybe go back and get it right this time? 

[ulkis]

1 minute ago, Perkie said:

I don't see that.  She's a woman with fertility issues who wants to carry the baby herself.  As someone who's had fertility issues (that were resolved) I get where she's coming from.  It's the same as the women who feel they MUST deliver naturally and not by C Section, or MUST breastfeed even if they can't because it somehow makes them less of a woman.  Some women truly beleive that.  

What I don't get is the obsession now with the Stavros embryo.  Does she really believe that's a good option?  Does she really believe that Dante will be ok with that, even if he says he is.  I mean, w'ere not talking about a normal person's embryo but a wackadoo with a boatload of wackadoo DNA, who also happens to be her brother's father, which makes her baby genetics really really icky.  

Agree with all of this. I agree with the first paragraph, but not for Lulu and because of her character and because of the situation you described.

It would be interesting if Lulu were subconsciously doing it to spite Dante (but, at the same time, even then I have trouble buying it, because it's Stavros, for god's sake, but I guess you could twist it that she wants to know if Dante loves her enough to deal with her having another man's kid, even if it Stavros'). And maybe Dante is not speaking up because of guilt, not only because of the affair but because of the original kidnapping. But - even then, even if Dante weren't speaking up on his own behalf because of guilt, I would think he'd speak up at least for HER sake, because this isn't healthy.

But, that's like, POV and shit, so, yeah.

34 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

She hasn't said that exactly, but there's definitely this gross undercurrent that he doesn't count because she didn't get to carry him herself.

Plus, how about considering the kid's psyche when he/she eventually finds out they came to be because his bio father stuck his mother in a freezer, removed her eggs without her permission or knowledge, and then created an embryo, tried to force it into his mom, and oh yeah, bio father is Uncle Nikolas' dad too and raped grandma!

[jsbt]

Oh, my God. Paul?! I know Richard Burgi plays great villains, but I'd just gotten used to having him around and was thinking they should re-pair him with Tracy if she's not gonna get Finn. What a horrific waste.

Edited August 29, 2016 by jsbt

[RedheadZombie]

On ‎8‎/‎26‎/‎2016 at 4:23 PM, sacrebleu said:

It's an homage to Game of Thrones maybe? Like Jon Snow, he swore fealty until his death, he died, was brought back, and now-- he's out.

Is the Jon Snow thing a spoiler at this point? 

Probably.  I got in a little trouble for outing the ending of Big Love - which happened five years ago.

[TeeVee329]

21 minutes ago, Perkie said:

I don't see that.  She's a woman with fertility issues who wants to carry the baby herself.  As someone who's had fertility issues (that were resolved) I get where she's coming from.  It's the same as the women who feel they MUST deliver naturally and not by C Section, or MUST breastfeed even if they can't because it somehow makes them less of a woman.  Some women truly beleive that.  

What I don't get is the obsession now with the Stavros embryo.  Does she really believe that's a good option?  Does she really believe that Dante will be ok with that, even if he says he is.  I mean, w'ere not talking about a normal person's embryo but a wackadoo with a boatload of wackadoo DNA, who also happens to be her brother's father, which makes her baby genetics really really icky.  

Those being Lulu's issues makes sense (and I'm a dude so I can't speak to fertility issues and I hope I didn't offend with my earlier comments), but I don't think that's coming across on-screen. 

And the immediate leap to the Stavlu embryo as her only chance or option or whatever she said only added to my feelings about this undercurrent.  She not only wants to carry a child, but that child has to be biologically hers - not hers and Dante's, just hers.

It's terrible writing all around.  They could have reminded us about the Stavlu embryo without doing...this.

Edited August 29, 2016 by TeeVee329

[ulkis]

6 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Those being Lulu's issues makes sense (and I'm a dude so I can't speak to fertility issues and I hope I didn't offend with my earlier comments), but I don't think that's coming across on-screen. 

And the immediate leap to the Stavlu embryo as her only chance or option or whatever she said only added to my feelings about this undercurrent.  She not only wants to carry a child, but that child has to be biologically hers - not hers and Dante's, just hers.

If this had happened last year, I could have totally understood Dante running out the door and having sex with Anna Valerie. I would have hated it, but I would have understood.

But no writers, that doesn't mean Dante gets to run out and do it now. He lost his free affair pass! Lulu has to dump him first (which will probably happen when he expresses doubts about her impregnating herself with her half-brother's half-brother/nephew.)

[dubbel zout]

10 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

She not only wants to carry a child, but that child has to be biologically hers - not hers and Dante's, just hers.

SMH for how this is being written. TFGH that it emphasizes all the wrong aspects of this gross story.

[HeatLifer]

17 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

She not only wants to carry a child, but that child has to be biologically hers - not hers and Dante's, just hers.

Yup. And it's foolish to not let Dante react to this.

[Perkie]

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 I hope I didn't offend with my earlier comments

You didn't offend.  I was just explaining that for some women, carrying your own baby is about your worth as a woman.  It doesn't help that others around you (especially mothers in law!) are all "when are you having a baby/having a second baby.  you're not getting any younger/baby #1 is not getting any younger. " Just the joys of being a woman!!

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talk on various boards was about Andre being the killer, so Paul was a nice surprise

Andre being the killer would have made sense (in a GH sort of way).  Paul, not so much.  Also, would no one have noticed DA Hornsby hanging around the hospital on those nights in question.  I also want someone to go back to the Nurses's Ball episode to see if he was there (and couldn't possibly have been at the hospital to attack Bobbie/Lucas......hey, remember Lucas?)

[ulkis]

7 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

SMH for how this is being written. TFGH that it emphasizes all the wrong aspects of this gross story.

I will say though this sets up a scenario where it's much more understandable for Dante not to be accepting (because I've always thought it would be all wrong if Dante acted like the Luke in this scenario) since Lulu pretty much said she wants to look for it without asking him if he was okay with it really, and you can understand how his feelings would be hurt that apparently she doesn't care whose baby she's carrying as long as it's hers. So, if that's the case, good work writers for twisting Lulu again?

[Perkie]

Call me crazy, but I liked the Jordan/Ava scenes.  It sort of made sense that Jordan would reach out to Ava as the art person.  I did find it funny that Ava was all "I didn't kill anyone" and Jordan was all "that's not why I called you in here".  I love Maura.  

Heather's hair looked really good and really clean.  Maybe Franco should borrow her shampoo.

I've got to give LIz credit because if someone had slapped me, I would have punched them in the face so hard my hand would have broken.  Not that I'm a violent person or anything, but geez.  I did appreciate that Finn witnessed it and broke them up.  

[Mrs OldManBalls]

25 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:

Probably.  I got in a little trouble for outing the ending of Big Love - which happened five years ago.

I watched that finale twice just to make sure [main character I hated] was dead and they weren't trying to trick me by airing a decoy episode or something. 

Paul being the killer is stupid, but Richard Burgi needs to GTFO, never look back and go (back) to prime time where his talents are appreciated. Empire maybe? 

[dubbel zout]

12 minutes ago, ulkis said:

I will say though this sets up a scenario where it's much more understandable for Dante not to be accepting

I will be surprised if this scenario gets incorporated into the larger story. So far it's all about the status of the embryo—does it exist? I hope we get more to it than this, but I'm not optimistic.

Richard Burgi has always been too good for this show, but I hate that Paul is the hospital killer. All of the victims are under-5 day players, so who cares they're dead? It's so aggravating that a good actor gets so screwed. Again.

[ulkis]

To put aside my ranting for a moment, this is kinda tin-hatty of me (okay a lot tin hatty of me) but I kinda feel like they made Sam pregnant and are marrying them off because they want to distract the fans from Franco getting a ton of screentime being portrayed as a quirky misunderstood guy who just wants to help out Jason's kid, who can never understand said kid like Franco can, damn it. I don't really care or not if that is the reason (and if I was a Jasam fan I'd be fine with it myself), but I'm just wondering, like I said.

1 minute ago, dubbel zout said:

I will be surprised if this scenario gets incorporated into the larger story. So far it's all about the status of the embryo—does it exist? I hope we get more to it than this, but I'm not optimistic.

Richard Burgi has always been too good for this show, but I hate that Paul is the hospital killer. All of the victims are under-5 day players, so who cares they're dead? It's so aggravating that a good actor gets so screwed. Again.

Richard Burgi is a good actor, but I don't know if he was a good fit. He didn't seem to be able to unclench.

[TeeVee329]

14 minutes ago, Mrs OldManBalls said:

Paul being the killer is stupid, but Richard Burgi needs to GTFO, never look back and go (back) to prime time where his talents are appreciated. Empire maybe? 

Well just because he's a killer doesn't mean he's leaving the show. *glares at Franco, Jason, Sonny, take your pick, really*

BTW, now that we know he's not the killer, my spec is that Andre is going to be framed and/or killed by Paul.

[Darklazr]

2 hours ago, ulkis said:

To put aside my ranting for a moment, this is kinda tin-hatty of me (okay a lot tin hatty of me) but I kinda feel like they made Sam pregnant and are marrying them off because they want to distract the fans from Franco getting a ton of screentime being portrayed as a quirky misunderstood guy who just wants to help out Jason's kid, who can never understand said kid like Franco can, damn it. I don't really care or not if that is the reason (and if I was a Jasam fan I'd be fine with it myself), but I'm just wondering, like I said.

I think the JaSam reunion along with baby and marriage is to redo what was written in 2011 with the Franco rape (yes, Franco raped Sam) and the sum dum wedding vows and nothing else.

[bannana]

12 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Well just because he's a killer doesn't mean he's leaving the show. *glares at Franco, Jason, Sonny, take your pick, really*

BTW, now that we know he's not the killer, my spec is that Andre is going to be framed and/or killed by Paul.

I haven't seen the episode, but could it be that they have made him the killer, Ava finds out and blackmails him into losing the evidence against Julian?

[YaddaYadda]

29 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

Yup. And it's foolish to not let Dante react to this.

He'll probably react to it with Nathan, and then say something like if this is what she wants, then she can have it because I slept with her cousin. He'll probably feel he owes her that much, and won't say anything to her. He told her he supported her, even though he doesn't look all that enthusiastic about the whole thing.

Also, is this why they brought Robert back? For a grand tour about what Luke told him to tell his family? Why are we even still talking about Luke? why is Luke still relevant? I wanted to destroy my TV during his exist storyline that dragged on forever and a day. Why are we still talking about him? Please don't come back TG.

11 minutes ago, ulkis said:

To put aside my ranting for a moment, this is kinda tin-hatty of me (okay a lot tin hatty of me) but I kinda feel like they made Sam pregnant and are marrying them off because they want to distract the fans from Franco getting a ton of screentime being portrayed as a quirky misunderstood guy who just wants to help out Jason's kid, who can never understand said kid like Franco can, damn it. I don't really care or not if that is the reason (and if I was a Jasam fan I'd be fine with it myself), but I'm just wondering, like I said.

I'm seeing them more as having Franco save Sam and new baby from whatever danger they're in, where he will be praised, even though his ass did some extra vile things to Sam.

I'm not even over what they did with Danny, how they handed the baby over to Tea, had John McBain assist with the birth, gave the storyline to their shiny pets. Sam's second baby also dies, she has to bury him too. 

Franco's final "redemption" will very likely go through Sam and that baby.

Because they can't help themselves.

[HeatLifer]

I still think they just have no clue what to do with JaSam, so this wedding/baby is for their fans. They have no real story right now. Hopefully that will change because it's a waste of the actors.

[ulkis]

7 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I'm not even over what they did with Danny, how they handed the baby over to Tea, had John McBain assist with the birth, gave the storyline to their shiny pets. Sam's second baby also dies, she has to bury him too. 

I bet you if PP hadn't taken the characters back, by now poor noble Tea would have had to given the baby back, but it would have been 75% about her pain and Danny would probably calling Tea "mommy # 2". shudder.

[Oracle42]

4 hours ago, ulkis said:

I kinda feel like they made Sam pregnant and are marrying them off because they want to distract the fans from Franco getting a ton of screentime being portrayed as a quirky misunderstood guy who just wants to help out Jason's kid, who can never understand said kid like Franco can, damn it.

Are the writers intentionally writing him as a creepy narcissist? He's obsessed with Jake because he sees himself in him. He makes Liz's reasonable boundaries AND HER RAPE about his hurt feelings. He only visited Heather because he wanted money and even onstaff terrorist Dr. Obrecht got to point out that he's only ever concerned with his own idiotic drama.

JUST. KILL. HIM. OFF. #DeadFranco2016

Edited August 30, 2016 by Oracle42

[fishcakes]

14 minutes ago, bannana said:

I haven't seen the episode, but could it be that they have made him the killer, Ava finds out and blackmails him into losing the evidence against Julian?

Yeah, I think she's going to make the case against Julian go away and also get the flash drive back so that she's in the clear for Connie's murder. And I'm okay with the latter because I like Ava when she's not boning Morgan, but what the hell, I thought we were finally going to be free of Julian and his little hair hat. The only person in this who's not going to skate for being a murderer is Paul. He'll eventually be found out, but not until we cycle through a few more suspects.

"Stavros is my brother's insane father, he raped my mother, kidnapped me, harvested my eggs, created an embryo, was going to impregnate me against my will, cryogenically froze me, and is the reason I can no longer get pregnant, but if all goes well, I'LL GET TO HAVE HIS BABY! SQUEEEEE!"

Twice today, Heather referred to herself as Jeff's first wife. So are we supposed to pretend he was never married to Monica or do these writers genuinely not know?

[Oracle42]

Just now, fishcakes said:

Twice today, Heather referred to herself as Jeff's first wife. So are we supposed to pretend he was never married to Monica or do these writers genuinely not know?

I think you already know the answer to that

[HeatLifer]

Just now, fishcakes said:

"Stavros is my brother's insane father, he raped my mother, kidnapped me, harvested my eggs, created an embryo, was going to impregnate me against my will, cryogenically froze me, and is the reason I can no longer get pregnant, but if all goes well, I'LL GET TO HAVE HIS BABY! SQUEEEEE!"

It makes SO MUCH SENSE, RIGHT?!

*weeps*

[P3pp3rb1rd]

3 hours ago, LexieLily said:

So why is Paul the killer?

IDK, but he's always been shady and corrupt. Jenny just divorced him for unethical actions, and he tried to trick Tracy into a romance right away. Then he was hand-in-glove with the PC corrupt mayor too. He banged Bad Girl Ava, but then everyone has.

Edited August 29, 2016 by P3pp3rb1rd

[peachmangosteen]

3 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Oooh, maybe he'll try and kill Morgan so Dillon can have Kiki!

Into it.

2 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

I have no idea what's going on right now.

T-shirt!

I will say I thought BH, MW, RM, and DZ did some really good work in this ep. I mean almost everything about the writing in like every scene was bad, but they were giving me good acting, man. Oh, and ME's face after Finn saw Hayden slapped Liz was outstanding.

I was literally lmao when I realized Paul was the killer. I can't. They're gonna somehow tie this into Susan's rape, aren't they? I just, yea, I can't. I bet RB is pumped though to be rid of this shitfest.

I can't believe they brought Robert back for him to go on a "This is what Luke's up to" tour. LOL so random and pointless.

I don't really remember anything else.

[instant karma]

29 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

I still think they just have no clue what to do with JaSam, so this wedding/baby is for their fans. They have no real story right now. Hopefully that will change because it's a waste of the actors.

I'm perfectly fine with them having no story. Hopefully they fade in the background and disappear for awhile. And really BM and KeMo's acting isn't being wasted. Just the opposite.