Green Arrow In Comics

[Chaser]

Im confused.

[Primal Slayer]

It's like when they do Flash/Arrow crossovers, characters appear on different shows. That page is for Rebirth #1 that is about resetting the entire DC universe, the narrator is explaining throughout the book how the event that caused TheNew52 stripped everyone of their previous lives.

[lemotomato]

5 minutes ago, Chaser said:

I hope for those who are looking forward to this series that the writing is better than that snippet.

Cause that right there is bad fan fiction. 

You know what, though? Comics are illustrated fanfiction. Technically, fanfiction are stories written by people who use characters and settings that don't belong to them. Comic characters are owned by DC/Marvel/etc who hire writers to create their own series of stories with those characters.

The only difference is that comics are written by men, illustrated by men, and targeted to men. So they are acceptable. 

[Chaser]

Thanks.

My comment still stands. I hope the writing is a hell of a lot better. 

[Primal Slayer]

Barry, Wally, a lot of heroes are appearing and taking up pages, with Barry/Wally being major players. 

[wonderwall]

ohhh okay, that makes sense.

But yeah I agree with @Chaser hopefully for comic fans the writing is much better than that. Because that was honestly cringeworthy almost hilarious levels of terrible

[Primal Slayer]

Just now, wonderwall said:

ohhh okay, that makes sense.

But yeah I agree with @Chaser hopefully for comic fans the writing is much better than that. Because that was honestly cringeworthy almost hilarious levels of terrible

It is being written by Geoff Jones who is now is charge of the DC movie-verse and helped get Arrow/Flash/SG off the ground. Though not like we are allowed to get a much better writers for even Arrow/Flash/Supergirl.

[wonderwall]

1 minute ago, Primal Slayer said:

It is being written by Geoff Jones who is now is charge of the DC movie-verse and helped get Arrow/Flash/SG off the ground. Though not like we are allowed to get a much better writers for even Arrow/Flash/Supergirl.

Well no, it's not being written by Geoff Johns. It's being written by Benjamin Percy who was responsible for Oliver getting Werewolf Aids in the last run of comics. I did enjoy the art though which is by Otto Schmidt.

http://www.dccomics.com/comics/green-arrow-2016/green-arrow-rebirth-1

[Primal Slayer]

No Rebirth #1 is different from GA Rebirth, the preview is from Rebirth, main book.

[wonderwall]

4 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said:

No Rebirth #1 is different from GA Rebirth, the preview is from Rebirth, main book.

Ohhh do you mind linking me this? I'm curious now. And I'm confused again. You said that was from Rebirth #1.

And to be fair, it doesn't really matter who wrote it. Good writers are capable of writing bad things at times. And this was simply bad. So again, hopefully he puts more effort into this.

Edited May 21, 2016 by wonderwall

[Primal Slayer]

3 minutes ago, wonderwall said:

Ohhh do you mind linking me this? I'm curious now.

Sure:

http://www.newsarama.com/29407-preview-dc-universe-rebirth-1-with-spoilers.html

5 minutes ago, wonderwall said:

Ohhh do you mind linking me this? I'm curious now. And I'm confused again. You said that was from Rebirth #1.

And to be fair, it doesn't really matter who wrote it. Good writers are capable of writing bad things at times. And this was simply bad. So again, hopefully he puts more effort into this.

He's been getting praise for it from outlets who reviewed it so he must be doing something right.

[wonderwall]

6 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said:

Sure:

http://www.newsarama.com/29407-preview-dc-universe-rebirth-1-with-spoilers.html

oh so the PREVIEW was written by Geoff Johns but the actual comic run is going to be written by Ben Percy is what I'm getting... And it's not solely about GA. It's about all the characters in the DC Universe. Got it. 

Still I'm wary of Ben Percy. Again, hope you get what you want out of the comics and hope it's better than the cheesiness of that first page. Not a good first impression imo.

Edited May 21, 2016 by wonderwall

[Chaser]

6 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said:

Sure:

http://www.newsarama.com/29407-preview-dc-universe-rebirth-1-with-spoilers.html

He's been getting praise for it from outlets who reviewed it so he must be doing something right.

What do you think of this comic preview?

Is it what you were expecting or hoping?

[Primal Slayer]

It has me interested to say the least. I was not a huge fan of majority of The New52 but I am interested to see how they will bring back things like legacy to their universe. 

[wonderwall]

10 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said:

He's been getting praise for it from outlets who reviewed it so he must be doing something right.

The wonders of opinions :) Everyone has them!

And if he's getting praise then good for him. I just thought it was bad *shrugs*

[EmilyBettFan]

Lmfao that's embarrassing. It is bad fan fiction. 

[Midnight Lullaby]

Hahahaha oh wow that is so cheesy. Maybe the problem with Arrow is that it isn't cheesy enough? But the moment they start talking about strange feelings keeping the characters up at night I'm out.

[apinknightmare]

Glad to see Oliver keeps his bedroom decor on theme. Hope he gets that feels-related insomnia taken care of!

Edited May 21, 2016 by apinknightmare

[tarotx]

So what's happening is everybody is living their new lives and get the memories of their old ones back? Or just some of the memories? Or just some of the emotions? Isn't Dinah married to someone else on the new stories (though he died - but not really)? And before the 2011 reboot, didn't Dinah finally have enough of her cheating murderer Ollie? So now she will get all the feels but none of the knowledge? 

Edited May 22, 2016 by tarotx

[Angel12d]

Haha that comic strip is hilariously cheesy. The next time someone tries to tell me that Arrow has too much romance, I'ma show them that. LMAO bless.

Edited May 21, 2016 by Angel12d

[dtissagirl]

This is peak Geoff Johns, though. I've been reading the guy off and on for years now, and I cannot think of a cheesiest comic book writer when it comes to relationships, romantic or otherwise. He legit embraces the cheese.

[Angel12d]

Just now, dtissagirl said:

This is peak Geoff Johns, though. I've been reading the guy off and on for years now, and I cannot think of a cheesiest comic book writer when it comes to relationships, romantic or otherwise. He legit embraces the cheese.

Low-key think he reads Harlequin romance novels tbh. Haha.

[lemotomato]

To be fair, comic book romances have always been super cheesy. The stuff I've seen of GA/BC takes the cake, though. 

[calliope1975]

I'm going to have to bust out my Geoff Johns' The Flash and Green Lantern early '00 runs. I don't remember him being this cheesy, but it's been a long time since I read his comics. Or, more likely, I like cheese.

[Delphi]

8 hours ago, tarotx said:

So what's happening is everybody is living their new lives and get the memories of their old ones back? Or just some of the memories? Or just some of the emotions? Isn't Dinah married to someone else on the new stories (though he died - though not really)? And before the 2011 reboot, didn't Dinah finally have enough of her cheating murderer Ollie? So now she will get all the feels but none of the knowledge? 

From what I understand, they are bringing back certain things from the pre52 that they felt were missing,  mostly the heritage when it comes to multiple Robins and the romances while removing things that tore down that heritage like replacing Helena Bertinelli with Helena Wayne.  It is mildly interesting,  but I'm still not sure I'm going to give it a chance. 

[BkWurm1]

9 hours ago, dtissagirl said:

This is peak Geoff Johns, though. I've been reading the guy off and on for years now, and I cannot think of a cheesiest comic book writer when it comes to relationships, romantic or otherwise. He legit embraces the cheese.

I enjoyed GJ's scripts when he wrote for Smallville, he did seem to write most female characters well (Lana is ALWAYS the exception to the rule).  I liked that he didn't seem to be afraid of romance or feelings but my issue with that comic page is it comes out of no where.  They had all these New52 comics and nobody was shown to feel this way.  I hate the attempt to not call it what it is, it's a reboot that retcons the past.  Maybe it only retcons or "fixes" things that apply to romance or legacy but why not own that? 

And yeah, it's cheesy as hell and soooo fan fic-ish to bring back all the golden memories while ignoring all the little complicated things like why certain characters were not together.  It's a light switch or a magic wand.  It is a cheat but hey, fine, if it makes them happy, just let's not have conversations about how Arrow didn't do enough set up in its relationships.  The Rebirth feels a lot like on the Flash with Iris and Barry...stuff is going to happen because it's rebirth destiny! 

[FurryFury]

17 hours ago, lemotomato said:

To be fair, comic book romances have always been super cheesy. The stuff I've seen of GA/BC takes the cake, though. 

I think I threw up a little bit. In my mind.

Edited May 22, 2016 by FurryFury

[Starfish35]

The "anti-anti-life arrow" always cracks me up.

[dtissagirl]

DC finally realizes girls 6-12 exist in this plane of existence:

DC SUPER HERO GIRLS Expected To Earn $1 BILLION For Warner Bros.
http://www.newsarama.com/29428-dc-super-hero-girls-expected-to-earn-1-billion-for-warner-bros.html

Also, I don't know how spoiled you guys are for Rebirth, or if you don't care [because there ARE spoilers abound in the article below], but this is the first thing I read that made me want to actually pay real moneys for it:

Why DC UNIVERSE REBIRTH Is A Gutsy Work Of Comics Criticism
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/05/23/why-dc-universe-rebirth-is-a-gutsy-work-of-comics-criticism

[apinknightmare]

Spoiler

Wally, bouncing around The New 52,

sees that Green Arrow and Black Canary aren’t together in this reality, and he mentions how wrong that is.

LMAO. Everyone's a shipper!

I will admit that the write-up is the first thing I've ever read that actually made me want to pick up a comic book (even though I probably won't). And the convo in the comments is really interesting, and hasn't devolved into nastiness like I'm used to seeing regarding comics continuity and such.

Edited May 23, 2016 by apinknightmare

[lemotomato]

It reads to me like DC just realized that the tone they've been cultivating in recent years isn't profitable anymore, so they're doing a hard reset and going in the opposite direction. I don't see why it's "brave" storytelling to change everything back to the way it used to be simply because your competitor is kicking your butt in sales the last year or two.

Edited May 23, 2016 by lemotomato

[Angel12d]

Nah, still not interested. I hope it's enjoyable to those who are though.

[kismet]

I don't read comics, but just happened to be watch Late Night with Seth Myers and caught the interview with Geoff Johns (3rd guest) tonight. It was enjoyable he didn't spoil anything but he said that the relaunch is not a resetting of the characters, but rather a return to hope and inspiration.

He also talked about DC's initiative to make comics for everyone. He talked about going to the White House and working with Mattel to make stuff more marketable to girls. That the aisles will have pink, but other colors too. And how he wants girls to not just wear princess gowns but capes as well. He said the slogan is going to be "No Prince Charming required".

He also said he is working with Ben Affleck on the new Batman movie.

It was a pretty enjoyable interview and he gave 2 cute stories about his trainer & dog. I'm sure it will hit youtube or NBC at some point.

He did say he was a BIG fan of Flash. So I wonder what he'll think about the Flash finale.

[wonderwall]

Geoff Johns was the one who developed the Flash along with GB and AK so I think he was part of the decision?

[Starfish35]

Yeah I can't imagine it caught him by surprise.

[kismet]

Probably not I'm just curious what his reaction to it was. If people are right and comic people are loving it, I'm curious if he loved it too. I imagine if I have been reading Flash since I was little kid and they recreated on screen an apparently big Flash comic event I would be excited.

For me its probably the equivalent of any Austen adaptation that manages to give me a bona fide Mr. Darcy. I haven't been reading it since I was 8, but its the only thing I can think of that I have followed from a youngish age.

Edited May 25, 2016 by kismet

[dtissagirl]

If you ever wonder where exactly any character [or maybe just Green Arrow] fit in the totem of importance at DC Comics, just look at the full pic of the Rebirth cast, and remember: size matters.



Hi-res giant version:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/0/0/1/REBIRTH-splash-8285d.jpg

[looptab]

Sooo many green suits. Green Arrow was almost out of the picture, haha.

[Morrigan2575]

kind of surprised that the lanterns and Batgirl aren't more prominent.  Is Aquaman really a more important character then Green Lantern?

[dtissagirl]

Just now, Morrigan2575 said:

kind of surprised that the lanterns and Batgirl aren't more prominent.  Is Aquaman really a more important character then Green Lantern?

I think it might be because of the upcoming movie? I mean, Mera is huge too.

Also, is Donna Troy in the WW movie? Because also bigger than a lot of Bat family folk here.

[Morrigan2575]

4 minutes ago, dtissagirl said:

I think it might be because of the upcoming movie? I mean, Mera is huge too.

Also, is Donna Troy in the WW movie? Because also bigger than a lot of Bat family folk here.

i was wondering if this was tied to the movies.  Is Donna Troy the built woman all in black? I was trying to figure out who that was.

ETA: Kind of funny but Constantine's position makes him easier to spot than Supergirl, Black Canary and Green Arrow.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Morrigan2575

[Sakura12]

Constantine is not wearing a stupid brightly colored outfit, that's why he's easier to spot. It did take me awhile to find Green Arrow. 

Their big movies are Batman, Superman, Wonderwoman, Aquaman and the Flash, I'm guessing its why they are so prominent in the poster. 

[Morrigan2575]

i just expected Flash and Green Lantern to be more prominent than Aquaman 

[dtissagirl]

17 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

i was wondering if this was tied to the movies.  Is Donna Troy the built woman all in black? I was trying to figure out who that was.

Yup.

From the TV characters, not counting Flash, the most predominant are Firestorm and Martian Manhunter both at the top, but also they're totally covered in lettering, so *shrug emoji*.

[tv echo]

[Delphi]

Any comic peeps here actually read Rebirth?   I'm trying to decide whether I should bother picking it up.  

But I'm mostly happy that Stephanie and Cassandra haven't been eliminated again,  so I don't know if it's worth my time. 

[dtissagirl]

I got it for free, so I'm gonna read it. Soon-ish. Not today, though.

[Primal Slayer]

I enjoyed it for the most part. Of course it just raised more questions but it does help put a band aid on TheNew52. Though the big return and explanation  of 2 characters sharing the same name was both funny and weak.

[BkWurm1]

On ‎5‎/‎25‎/‎2016 at 8:58 AM, Morrigan2575 said:

i just expected Flash and Green Lantern to be more prominent than Aquaman 

I think it goes back to the Super Friends.  Wonder Woman, Superman, Batman, and Aquaman.  I didn't even know about the Flash or Green Lantern until much, much later.  So at least for kids that grew up in the 80's (who are probably now doing the art now) Aquaman is a bigger name. 

Edited May 26, 2016 by BkWurm1

[tv echo]

Geoff Johns: DC Universe: Rebirth Is Not a Reboot
Published on May 25, 2016, by Late Night with Seth Meyers