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I hate the "dumb security guard" trope where all it takes is an attractive female to make him lose his shit and let her in the gate.

 

To be fair, the last security guard opened up the gate to let in a pack of wolves. It seems pretty unfair to judge this guy for simply letting in one person because she is an attractive female. She had just yesterday been allowed through the gate and spent quite a bit of time getting a tour of the prison.

 

Plus, he didn't just send her in to have a look around, He called somebody on the radio to say that he was sending her in, which means that all he did was send her to central command.

 

So why don't we all take a minute to be thankful that we didn't have to watch her tell the same story to people who definitely should have known better. I think we are much better off to not think too hard about this one.

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Think about it.  If you have no leads on this.  Why not look for the kid.  He may have leads on his father's research which he does.  

 

I don't see that he's particularly useful to the team.  And we certainly don't need two safari guides, do we?  I mean, wouldn't a train driver or a house painter have at least as much to bring to the table?  Or (more entertaining) a swimsuit model?

 

But really, I don't care who they have on board, because whoever they've got, the show is just just a scream!

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I have world class ability to accept things I know are stupid for the sake of TV, but this show routinely wears me down. This week it was the exploding coconut water and wolf's blood concoction. How on earth am I supposed to believe that an angry bacteria in blood could create an explosion when introduced to what is essentially weak Gatorade? (Note: This means that I was okay with everything else, including but not limited to the bats not freezing while they sat still on a solar panel.)

I was just about to roll my eyes at the exploding coffee pot bacteria smoothie, but that was when Billy Burke popped up with his droll remark, which served as a punch line to the joke, and it turned out to be the highlight of my week.

 

One of the tour guides is the son of the guy who predicted the animal apocalypse so he should be there. The other guide is his buddy and halfway accepts this crazy theory of animals taking over. Not to mention he's supposedly an experienced trapper.

And I'm having my appendix removed by a guy who rents deck chairs at the beach, but he is the son of a surgeon, so I'm sure I'll be OK!

Well, IRL, I have to accept the landlord sending a bunch of self-taught "carpenters" tearing apart my kitchen and bathroom for the last 3 days in search of a leak (instead of calling a plumber), so I'm fine with the randomly selected members of Team Animal Apocalypse--although they do seem to create an equal amount of damage and havoc in their search for the root of the problem.

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It feels odd to defend the show but here you go: Nobody seems to have been willing to listen to Oz sen. and his crackpot theories (except his second wife who's dead and from what we've seen this episode alpha patient zero) but he did force them on his kid. So his kid, who's also in possession of the guy's research material, seems a valuable asset on team stop-the-animapocalypse. Oz jun. makes more sense on the team than paranoid journalist or French intelligence lady.

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Oz [junior] makes more sense on the team than paranoid journalist

The only reason to have paranoid journalist on the team (that I can imagine) is if Reiden Global really is involved, and they are secretly funding the team, and it's a "keep your friends close and your enemies closer" kind of deal.

But on this show, maybe she'll turn out to have some special genetic immunity--maybe even from exposure to Reiden's evil chemicals when she was growing up.

I initially thought the French lady had some natural beast repellent powers that enabled her to survive the attack of hive minded lions.

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I'm fine with the randomly selected members of Team Animal Apocalypse--although they do seem to create an equal amount of damage and havoc in their search for the root of the problem.

Heh. I like that about them. It makes them more realistic to me. Possibly because I have friends who also made giant, inexplicable messes in hotel rooms, would definitely drink three times as much if they thought they could charge it to the French Government, and who probably did run into mass murderers and ended up walking away from it like it never happened. 

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Dave and Tara have your rankings for the episode!

http://previously.tv/zoo/the-zoo-croo-assembles-but-whos-most-expendable/"> Read the story

 

... That may not be fair but in a world where bats freeze lesbians to death, fair doesn't enter into it.

 

This is right up there with, "And then the psychic gorilla kidnapped Detective Joe." Or, "And then they flew the jet upside down to reset the computer." (Bonus points if you get that reference.)

 

But about the bats again; they only managed to what? kill two humans and only free a dozen(?) birds? Even the Slovenian street dogs managed to kill six people with no one catching on. Step up your game, bats.

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I don't see that he's particularly useful to the team.  And we certainly don't need two safari guides, do we?  I mean, wouldn't a train driver or a house painter have at least as much to bring to the table?  Or (more entertaining) a swimsuit model?

 

But really, I don't care who they have on board, because whoever they've got, the show is just just a scream!

See the quote below for a better worded response than I would've given.

 

It feels odd to defend the show but here you go: Nobody seems to have been willing to listen to Oz sen. and his crackpot theories (except his second wife who's dead and from what we've seen this episode alpha patient zero) but he did force them on his kid. So his kid, who's also in possession of the guy's research material, seems a valuable asset on team stop-the-animapocalypse. Oz jun. makes more sense on the team than paranoid journalist or French intelligence lady.

Also Oz seems to have a background/insight into different animal behaviors so that's another reason to have him stick around.  Now I'm sure there are better qualified people out there but would they buy into an animal apocalypse based on the ravings of a discredited scientist and a few random attacks worldwide? The biggest reason for making it onto this team is that you have to actually have to buy into the notion that animals are gearing up for war.

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Did this show just go bat-shit crazy ?! Bravo!  I will stick with you until the bitter end (which better be 10 episodes, tops.) 

 

I enjoyed flirty Lunkhead Detective who was hitting on French Chick at the bar. I'm guessing he's there to create the required TV love triangle, but it's refreshing that he is more perceptive than he seems without being overbearing. 

 

Carry on, show.

I was surprised to see that there are 13 episodes, and this is only the first season. I thought this was a short-term summer miniseries. I guess we'll be stuck with a stupid cliffhanger ending. I was disappointed in the bacteria angle, though. I don't like sci-fi that resolves with simple explanations. The Antarctic murders seemed random; why those two?

I kind of like the detective, and I'll watch for Abraham.

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The Antarctic murders seemed random; why those two?

Interesting. I had not considered that there might be a reason the animals picked out a victim (other than tourists, and really, who doesn't want to kill tourists?)

 

My first thought would be that those two ladies were on to something that was going to be a threat to Global Dynamic Megacorp, and that Girl Reporter was right all along.

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To be fair, the last security guard opened up the gate to let in a pack of wolves. It seems pretty unfair to judge this guy for simply letting in one person because she is an attractive female. She had just yesterday been allowed through the gate and spent quite a bit of time getting a tour of the prison.

I believe that was the same security guard.  Plus, she had been allowed through the gate yesterday because she was with the other lady.  

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Interesting. I had not considered that there might be a reason the animals picked out a victim (other than tourists, and really, who doesn't want to kill tourists?)

 

My first thought would be that those two ladies were on to something that was going to be a threat to Global Dynamic Megacorp, and that Girl Reporter was right all along.

 

Or maybe those two ladies were doing horrible experiments with the birds, and the bats were striking out for freedom for all animal-kind?  I dunno.

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I want March of the Evil Penguins!

 

Yeah, this was a tragic missed oppurtunity.  I can imagine it now - the two hapless Antarctic researchers peering out their window to see an entire ice ridge lined with penguins.  God, that would've been fantastic.

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I'm sorry, did I just experience an adult character on a show set in 2015 who is unfamiliar with the word scat? Oh, I did? I see. Carry on.

 

God, I love this dumb show.

 

I still don't understand how none of the guard as the prison shot any of the wolves. How does that happen? Hell, none of them even tried to draw their weapons. It's not like it was one wolf per person, so you think at least one of the guards on an upper level would;ve at least tried to get one of the wolves that was attacking a coworker.

 

Loooooooves how they talked about how horribly burned every inmate was, but apparently they were somehow able to identify all the remains in a day so Chloe could find out Alpha Wolf was missing.

 

They could have used Penguins.  Hundreds of Penguins, standing on each other's shoulders and madly pecking away at the solar panels; cracking and destroying them, then swarming the shelter, driving the researchers mad with their incessant screaming.  And once the researchers are dead, they take over the shelter and with their newly boosted IQs, turn on a recording device (probably a laptop) and watch March of the Penguins, over and over and over ... And then, because all is not sweetness and light within the animal kingdom itself, violence ensues when a small but vocal group demands Penguins of Madagascar be screened.

 

Ooooh, you know what else they could've done? Bats using the penguins as missiles. Just get the penguins to lie on their tummies and little mini swarms of bats could fly into their feet and launch them at the facility while the ladies were reminiscing to Oasis. Also, LOL'd for real each time the show cut to Oasis.

Or maybe it will be zebras!  <crosses fingers>

I'm going to be so mad if that doesn't happen.

 

I hate the "dumb security guard" trope where all it takes is an attractive female to make him lose his shit and let her in the gate.

How about the part where Jackson and the reporter randomly got in to check for tracks. The whole time I kept wondering how the hell they got in because they'd . . . just left with Chloe a couple scenes earlier.

 

Do you know what was really needed this episode? The comedic shenanigans that undoubtedly took place while the team smuggled a bleeding wolf into their hotel room.

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I still don't understand how none of the guard as the prison shot any of the wolves. How does that happen? Hell, none of them even tried to draw their weapons. It's not like it was one wolf per person, so you think at least one of the guards on an upper level would;ve at least tried to get one of the wolves that was attacking a coworker.

It seems they wouldn't have been armed: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article24731545.html

Do you know what was really needed this episode? The comedic shenanigans that undoubtedly took place while the team smuggled a bleeding wolf into their hotel room.

Definitely a missed opportunity. I'm imaging the wolf being dressed in a bonnet in a baby carriage and Billy Burke saying, "My, what big teeth you have."
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I'm sorry, did I just experience an adult character on a show set in 2015 who is unfamiliar with the word scat? Oh, I did? I see. Carry on.

 

Do you know what was really needed this episode? The comedic shenanigans that undoubtedly took place while the team smuggled a bleeding wolf into their hotel room.

The scat part didn't bother me. It's a word with many meanings. I wonder if the folks who named the new Dodge Challenger Scat Pack are looking at each other, "did you know ...?" "Nah, man, I didn't."

Regarding the bleeding wolf, they probably just told the front desk clerk, "He's really tired."

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It's an interesting premise but done in a way that feels mishandled but is still amusing in a ridiculous kind of way like Season 1 of Under the Dome but it seems to lack any stakes for the main people so it's kind of coming off a bit lacklustre. Oh well I hope it doesn't end up going the way of Season 2 and 3 of Under the Dome where it's not so much comically awful as just awful.

 

The bats attacking Antarctica seemed a bit pointless. I also wondered about that wolf. What did they end up doing with it ? Why didn't its pack try and reclaim their lost member ? Why did Alpha Manson lite just abandoned his tiny army of wolves ?

 

I think what's really missing is a sense of urgency and impact. It really should be focusing on what the animals are up to rather than the humans talking about random stuff. Are the cats still plotting against children ? Are the dogs still active with their serial killing ? Are the lions murdering their way around Africa now ?

 

If the virus/bacteria is affecting mammals then rats really should get involved in this. They already do millions worth of damage to crops so they should factor in at some point.

 

Billy Burke is a crap scientist. If he's found a virus that affects the wolves and isn't sure it's the same thing as what's effecting the lions... THEN HE SHOULD CALL THE ZOO and get them tested. *sigh*

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It seems they wouldn't have been armed: http://www.mcclatchy...le24731545.html

 

The weird thing is that in the previous episode they did show one guard inside the prison with a shotgun escorting Manson-lite directly in front of prisoner cells, and then later in the Warden's office the guard continued to hold the shotgun (albeit pointed at the floor).  Which kind of goes against the policy of no guns inside the wire.

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The Antarctic murders seemed random; why those two?

 

Damn, you're right.  That explains everything.  The bats have got to have an agenda.  Having bats be the killers in the Antarctic can't be random.  These have to be the same bats that took down the plane.  So they crash the plane to keep them from going to the island/finding the research and don't stick around to confirm the job is done.  The bats knowing that the cats are out of the bag head to the Antarctic to kill someone else who has a tie to the Dad's research.   

 

Oh course, Antarctica was selected because the team will find out and it will be a different environment to introduce different animal enemies when they investigate. 

 

I would like to point out that this stupid show is weaving an animal domination agenda so subtle and insidious that every episode its doesn't really come together until this forum collaborates on all the aspects of the conspiracy to wipe out mankind.  Its either an evil kind of genius.  Or we've all lost it.  Time will tell which it is.

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This show is just hilariously bad!

 

Do you know what was really needed this episode? The comedic shenanigans that undoubtedly took place while the team smuggled a bleeding wolf into their hotel room.

 

I have no doubt that Billy Burke could have figured it out. He and his smirk are the only reasons that I am still watching.

 

I think what's really missing is a sense of urgency and impact. It really should be focusing on what the animals are up to rather than the humans talking about random stuff. Are the cats still plotting against children ? Are the dogs still active with their serial killing ? Are the lions murdering their way around Africa now ?

 

Yes - some sort of race against time until the animals take back the earth. Something other than having our intrepid group of 5 jet-setting all over the globe spouting ridiculous dialogue.

 

Kristen Connolly and Nora Arnezeder bring absolutely nothing to their roles. I'm still trying to understand why a French "FBI" agent is leading this investigation. 

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But about the bats again; they only managed to what? kill two humans and only free a dozen(?) birds? Even the Slovenian street dogs managed to kill six people with no one catching on. Step up your game, bats.

WHAT???!!??? You think the fucking BATS need to step up their game???!!!????  Jesus christ,  in this animal war so far the bats have been the like the infantry on Omaha Beach on D-Day..  Their casualty rate is astronomical compared to all the large predators.  I feel like organizing a bat rebellion! Maybe with the birds!  Up with the airborne, down with the earthlocked!

 

Seriously nobody else thought it was funny when Abraham suggested to Oz Jr that perhaps what was needed was "a fresh pair of eyes"?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....  maybe they need to go back to Dad's lab and look for some more jars.

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At one point the guards were fumbling with the keys to a room marked "Armory" when the wolves came around the corner and gobbled them up!

 

Yes - some sort of race against time until the animals take back the earth. Something other than having our intrepid group of 5 jet-setting all over the globe spouting ridiculous dialogue. 

 

'Cept they don't use a jet.  They have a little twin with seating for maybe five (plus pilot) and a range of 1200 miles or so.

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Yes - some sort of race against time until the animals take back the earth. Something other than having our intrepid group of 5 jet-setting all over the globe spouting ridiculous dialogue.

 

Exactly, the human scenes are just characters spouting ridiculous exposition at us, while some random nobodies occassionally get killed off.

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Jackson, Abraham, Mitch, Jamie and Chloe are tasked by a top intelligence agent to find what's causing the strange animal behavior around the world

 

You know I didn't know their names before this and I totally don't know who is who but I'm calling them JAM JC or maybe JC jammy JAM from now on.  I fully expect them to use the transporter technology to get to the Antarctic next episode.  The mix tape will still be playing, despite the electricity being off long enough to kill people and the Oasis song will just be ending and its revealed that one of the corpsicles recorded a mixed tape over one of Dad's secret defiant pupil tapes. 

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Ooooh, you know what else they could've done? Bats using the penguins as missiles. Just get the penguins to lie on their tummies and little mini swarms of bats could fly into their feet and launch them at the facility while the ladies were reminiscing to Oasis. Also, LOL'd for real each time the show cut to Oasis.

 

 

Yeah, yeah, Hardy Har!

 

Or, or, or, better better better ... Lift the penguins into the air and drop them onto the solar panels.  Crash boom bang splash ick.  Kamikazee penguins!  And then the bats can aim them at the facility. 

 

And I love the idea of the visual of masses of penguins appearing at the top of a cliff, glaring at the human facility.  No "Happy Feet" there ...

 

Well, maybe when they send someone in to find out what's going on the killer penguins will be used then.  Assuming they don't run into Kurt Russell first ... (points if you get the reference)  :)

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Kristen Connolly and Nora Arnezeder bring absolutely nothing to their roles. I'm still trying to understand why a French "FBI" agent is leading this investigation.

Either one (or both) could be the main-character-who-dies-for-dramatic-effect -- most likely Kristen Connolly, since they showed Nora Arnezeder do a Chekhov's landing on top of James Wolk when the coconut brain wolf's blood smoothie went flooey. And I'm still considering that Mademoiselle Tousignant was chosen because the lions spared her and/or she was able to outrun them. Maybe she shares some genetic marker with Wolfmanson.

I felt sorry for Kristen Connolly when she seemed to be trying to pull off a Billy Burke-esque line delivery while admitting that she didn't previously know what scat was. Still not sure if that was how it was supposed to go (maybe the original script called for her to indignantly say she knew what scat was) or if it was bad direction or what. A straight faced joke about "if a wolf scats in the woods, can you hear it?" would've been a groaner, but more fun, IMO.

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And I'm still considering that Mademoiselle Tousignant was chosen because the lions spared her and/or she was able to outrun them. Maybe she shares some genetic marker with Wolfmanson.

I was hoping to get a 'scientifc' reason why the lions didn't nibble on her - but so far nada. Maybe they just don't like Chanel No 5 (she's French therefore she wears the stuff).

(Also I'm going to steal 'Chekhov's landing' for further use.)

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But on this show, maybe she'll turn out to have some special genetic immunity--maybe even from exposure to Reiden's evil chemicals when she was growing up.

If it's a big hive mind among the animals, maybe it just decides it doesn't want Whiny Vendetta Princess joining the club and infecting all the animals with her petulant stupidity. Lord knows I can barely tolerate listening to her for a few minutes a week; can you imagine having her voice in your head all the time?

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Obviously the writers on this show have no idea how solar panels work.  I mean, what was up with all the electricity cutting out immediately after the bats flew on to the solar panels?  Don't the writers know that the energy collected by those things go to storage batteries?  And that those batteries have a storage capacity for quite a while?  Otherwise those women would have had no power overnight or during snowstorms and cloudy days (whenever there was no sunlight).  Or were the writers trying to imply those bats had been covering the panels for days at a time without the Bickersons noticing?

 

I still find this show hilarious and will keep watching for a while yet.

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Obviously the writers on this show have no idea how solar panels work.

Why should solar panels be any different from antarctic construction and wiring, journalism, prison management, international travel, the adoption process, basic biology, or how human beings have conversations?

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Obviously the writers on this show have no idea how solar panels work.  I mean, what was up with all the electricity cutting out immediately after the bats flew on to the solar panels?  Don't the writers know that the energy collected by those things go to storage batteries?  And that those batteries have a storage capacity for quite a while?  Otherwise those women would have had no power overnight or during snowstorms and cloudy days (whenever there was no sunlight).  Or were the writers trying to imply those bats had been covering the panels for days at a time without the Bickersons noticing?

 

Plus, there's no way solar panels would be the primary source of power -- it would be supplemental at best.

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As far as I can tell, the attacks have been limited to mammals. If birds are going to get in on the action, that would make the bats thing preposterous. There would be plenty of birds to tactically take out the power sources of the "researchers", and therefore no need to bring in the bats.

Uh-oh.

http://youtu.be/OaYlbsy6wLw

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So, I sensed that my son had a bad day at camp yesterday and decided to cheer him up with some tales from the show Zoo. (He's too busy watching youtube videos of people playing video games to join me watching the show itself.)

 

After setting it up a bit with what kind of show this is, I began to tell him the story of the two researchers in Antarctica. I got to, "and that's when a huge flock, or whatever you call it, of bats landed on the solar panels to block out their electricity..." At which point I was interrupted with "HOW CAN THERE BE BATS IN ANTARCTICA?" 

 

Heh. I'm very proud of him.  He was also pretty annoyed about the fact that solar energy doesn't actually work that way, but I was able to explain to him that according to this show, the non-freezing bats were able to stay on the panels for a long enough time to eventually drain down all of the energy stored in the batteries, wait until the ladies in full winter parkas eventually froze to death, and THEN fly away.

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This proves that your son is smarter than the writers for this show.

 

Unfortunately, the doesn't mean much, as most organisms that contain more than 2 cells are smarter than these writers.  lol

Heh. I'd like to think the writers know exactly what they are doing. It makes me feel better to think that. 

 

Uh-oh.

That's great. I suppose that bird could pull that same move on us with a slice of pizza.

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Seriously show?  Lesbians listening to Oasis?

I'm looking forward to the part where the kitty cats take over the LAPD.

I love that the animals are devising new and entertaining ways to kill and that they have some sort of wacky morale code. (I've been letting my dog sleep on the couch. I'm going to need her on my side when scat/shit happens in my neighborhood.)

More Mitch, more Abe, please.  

Plus we need a female character with levity.  Can the cast of "The Last Man on Earth" join the French Government's team? Carol's raisin balls would clean the animal products out of their digestive systems, for starters.

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...More Mitch, more Abe, please.  

Plus we need a female character with levity...

Yes. I thought maybe Kristen Connolly/Fired Reporter was going for levity with her delivery of the lines about scat--or maybe trying to copy Billy Burke's ability to let us know that both he and his character realize how stupid all the scat in the show is, as another poster noted--but she couldn't quite pull it off, as we saw.
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Seriously. Not over the whole bats in Antarctica thing. Does the rouge pupil or whatever give them super powers? Allow them not to freeze to death? How does that work exactly? 

 

I like Mitch and Abe working together. More of them please!

 

Mitch was right to call the reporter girl woman out on being obsessed. I get why she is so upset with Big Evil Company, but come on girl! I really don't think they're the big bad here. Really, all she can really contribute to the team are her conspiracy theories that all end the same way (Rayden Global=Satan). 

 

Why all the effort to kill one random couple in Antarctica? Was there research about to find something out? Or were they just convinced that bats really hate Oasis? 

 

This show you guys. This show...

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Mitch was right to call the reporter girl woman out on being obsessed. I get why she is so upset with Big Evil Company, but come on girl! I really don't think they're the big bad here. Really, all she can really contribute to the team are her conspiracy theories that all end the same way (Rayden Global=Satan). 

 

Why all the effort to kill one random couple in Antarctica? Was there research about to find something out? Or were they just convinced that bats really hate Oasis? 

 

I'm either hoping or dreading (not sure exactly) that the Antarctic Lesbians were researching something that could harm Rayden Global.

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Somehow I think the producers weren't going for the "so bad it's good" angle for this show.  I think they thought they had a serious suspenseful drama on hand.  But I am finding it particularly entertaining.

 

What happened to Sinister French Guy?  Was his only role in introducing the team to Dixon from Alias?  And then Dixon also disappears once he sends the team on its way?

 

Antarctic Lesbians... so very random.  The thing about their story is that it seems to serve no purpose in advancing the plot.  Just a seemingly random animal killing.  How are the team even going to know about them?  They had no power and no heat and apparently didn't call anybody for help.  Nobody knows what happened to them.  So I'm assuming next episode there's a news story "Communication Lost with Antarctic Lesbians" and Jackson all of a sudden says "it MUST be BATS!  Let's go there!"

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I think one of the Antarctic Lesbians mentioned a distress call but she wasn't sure whether it went through. I wonder if they were just as random as it looks like or if there's more to their research. As for the producers intent with this show - I don't think they were planning on going the way of Sharknado but on the other hand it's hard to imagine anyone looking at this show's premise and writing and then go all 'Yay, - we've got the next Fringe on our hands!'

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Well it IS possible that promo-crow is just an innocent bystander. It just happened to come along after Mum had been killed by squirrels and is now checking on the (still alive) baby.

 

That explains it! The birds are on our side. That's why the bats had to go to Antarctica. Penguins are pacifists.

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Why all the effort to kill one random couple in Antarctica? Was there research about to find something out? Or were they just convinced that bats really hate Oasis? 

 

This show you guys. This show...

 

For that matter, why kill the Adoptive Dad in Slovenia? That little Jack Russell went through a lot of trouble to lead him down the dark alley. 

 

 

...but on the other hand it's hard to imagine anyone looking at this show's premise and writing and then go all 'Yay, - we've got the next Fringe on our hands!'

 

Ahh, if only! I miss that show.

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 As for the producers intent with this show - I don't think they were planning on going the way of Sharknado but on the other hand it's hard to imagine anyone looking at this show's premise and writing and then go all 'Yay, - we've got the next Fringe on our hands!'

 

I personally think that the writing team is made up of

- One writer that recognizes the potential to go Sharknado with this show and is making a valiant attempt at it by

- Giving one liners to BB and whispering into the ear of the one writer who was a huge BSG fan while in film school and promised himself that whatever antagonist was on the show he would someday write for would actually have the promised plan. From this kamikaze bats in Japan and Antartica are born.

- But the rest of the writers think they have a tense suspenseful drama and the are dampening the intentional parts of 'so bad its good'

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