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dtissagirl
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What bugs me is the implication that if you are not patient, you're watching it wrong. Naw, son. You don't get to tell me how I watch TV. I'm an actual pro at doing it.

WindofChange
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Oh wow, Emily. I'm impressed because this is really brave and I'm really proud that she said this in such an eloquent way.

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Ha. Reading those stage directions, and realizing how EBR went the opposite way [curious and skeptic rather than faint by hot guy] makes me understand 100% how fucking lost they were at that time, and

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Full DR solo panel (warning: includes a few spoilers- transcribed in New Spoilers thread) - below are some nonspoilery transcriptions...

-- On doing crossovers, DR: "It's funny when we have to deal with time loops and Speed Forces. Like, Barry Allen is a problem. Like, he's a real problem. You know, like, isn't he an issue? ... (Audience member yells, "Justice for Baby Sara!") Justice for Baby Sara. (Audience reaction) Thank you, that went over very well. I think you just get into this confusion of, you know, how many Earths there are and what choices have been made to kind of make that Earth that Earth. It kind of gets into this whole thing with Legends and Flash, and they can do all this stuff... When we start reading the script and you look at crossovers and every crossover has to be kinda true to what the storyline of that particular show is, you have to say, okay, why is that happening on Legends? Oh, because that happened on Legends, season 2, episode 5, and you have to go back and remind yourself - so there's that. But the writers are really good with trying to keep everything coherent and keep the story of Arrow Arrow, keeping the story of Flash Flash... It takes a lot of work...."

-- DR: "The crossovers really should be separate and above and beyond the shows. They should be like a two-hour movie. Like, there should be one big two-hour movie. And that's the mix-mash. And it's an event, right? That's it. Spreading it over, in my opinion, um - even though it's great to do that so people can see that during their hourly time with the shows - I think it causes a certain amount of confusion. So to make one big two-hour movie, I think, is some place in the works. I don't know if it's going to happen, but I think they're talking about that. Because otherwise you kinda have to be caught up on all the shows."

-- DR: "You know, Stephen has said this and I can't really articulate it any better. No one saw this coming. Nobody. No one, no one, no one, no one. I mean, the idea that me and Stephen, when we met each other, it clicked. Emily comes to the team and raises it some place else. It's - it's just lightning in a bottle... First of all, I'm thankful for my family. But second of all, I'm thankful for you guys allowing us to come into your home and entertain you. We are floored by your response to us. It means so much to our lives. This is the highlight of our careers... You think that, um, we're bringing something to your lives, but it's really - it's truly just the opposite. So we're very gracious and thank you so much for allowing us to entertain you.

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Arrow Panel - Manu Bennett and Katrina Law
Published on Nov 18, 2017, by venusnep55

Arrow Panel - Manu Bennett and Katrina Law 2
Published on Nov 18, 2017, by venusnep55

-- On whether Slade's son, Kane (Joe), will try to go after Oliver's son, MB: "The power is in the pen, kid. That's what they say...

Spoiler

But definitely Marc Guggenheim and I opened up the opportunity for, you know, multiple storylines. Uh, you know, the mother was mentioned. The other brother was mentioned... We've got an open door for the Wilson family. So who knows? ... Right now, I know... Joe Manganiello is going to bring - well, he's already brought Deathstroke to the screen in the new Justice League." MB also mentioned the possibility of a Deathstroke TV series maybe once the big screen version is done.

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Another cutie, both the pic and the anecdote that goes with it:

Just now, Starfish35 said:

Are you talking about JH or RG?

RG. All his responses had something to do with him specifically even when he could fudged a bit and mentioned somebody else. Like he said Quentin, but it was still in the context of WD's relationship with him.

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1 hour ago, SmallScreenDiva said:

RG. All his responses had something to do with him specifically even when he could fudged a bit and mentioned somebody else. Like he said Quentin, but it was still in the context of WD's relationship with him.

Yeah, I thought you might have been referring to RG, but wasn't sure.

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Kymmi

Kymmi

6 hours ago, Starfish35 said:

I wonder what happened with the Canaries panel?

I'm assuming Katie Cassidy left because her father is in a coma.  I know they aren't super close, but this kind of thing can do a number on someone.  All thoughts go to her.  

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LeighAn

LeighAn

6 hours ago, Kymmi said:

I'm assuming Katie Cassidy left because her father is in a coma.  I know they aren't super close, but this kind of thing can do a number on someone.  All thoughts go to her.  

Nope the con tweeted that she didn't leave that she stayed through Sunday. They may however cancelled her panel so she didn't have to be asked any questions or talk about it openly and have a lighter work load:

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2 hours ago, LeighAn said:

Nope the con tweeted that she didn't leave that she stayed through Sunday. They may however cancelled her panel so she didn't have to be asked any questions or talk about it openly and have a lighter work load:

They tweeted that before the panel though. 

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SmallScreenDiva

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Do fans have to sign up or buy extra tickets for panels? Or can you just show up? Can organizers get an idea beforehand how much space they need? How does it work? I might have convinced a friend to go with me to an HVFF con after showing her all the OTA and Olicity pics :P 

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Panels are free, you just show up and try to get a good seat. Sometimes I'd sit through a panel I don't care about just to get a good seat for the panel I want to see. 

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This is pretty funny and cool

 

23 minutes ago, Sakura12 said:

Panels are free, you just show up and try to get a good seat. Sometimes I'd sit through a panel I don't care about just to get a good seat for the panel I want to see. 

Thanks!

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42 minutes ago, SmallScreenDiva said:

Do fans have to sign up or buy extra tickets for panels? Or can you just show up? Can organizers get an idea beforehand how much space they need? How does it work? I might have convinced a friend to go with me to an HVFF con after showing her all the OTA and Olicity pics :P 

Adding to what @Sakura12 said about panels, HVFF has an open space layout (as opposed to separate rooms for panels at bigger cons) so even if you don't get a seat, you can stand on the sides and still see and hear what's going on. The OTA panel had lots of people watching outside the seated area.

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SmallScreenDiva

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11 minutes ago, lemotomato said:

Adding to what @Sakura12 said about panels, HVFF has an open space layout (as opposed to separate rooms for panels at bigger cons) so even if you don't get a seat, you can stand on the sides and still see and hear what's going on. The OTA panel had lots of people watching outside the seated area.

Thanks! 

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ETA: A better quality video is posted a few posts downthread.

Full video of OTA panel at HVFF-Atlanta on November 19 (in 2 parts) - video is bad, but audio is good (warning: includes a few spoilers) - only transcribed a few nonspoilery portions below...

OTA PANEL /HVFFAtlanta 2017 / EMILY BETT RICKARDS / STEPHEN AMELL / DAVID RAMSEY PART 1
Published on Nov 19, 2017, by Prince MojoTM

OTA PANEL /HVFFAtlanta 2017 / EMILY BETT RICKARDS / STEPHEN AMELL / DAVID RAMSEY PART 2
Published on Nov 19, 2017, by Prince MojoTM

-- Fan: "What are all of you all's favorite OTA scenes ever." EBR: "I just found out what OTA is." SA: "Is that true?" EBR: (laughs) "I want to be called OATs. Instead of OTA, I want to be called OATs." SA: "Y-OTA?" EBR: "No, like 'oats', like the cereal." ... SA: "Do you have a favorite scene?" EBR: "Um, episode - Season 1 - 14. David sleeping on the floor." (Audience laughs) SA: "That was funny, but it wasn't that funny." EBR: "It was funny scary. Five years later, very funny, not so much scary." DR: "I can't stand these people." EBR: "Yeah, but they're matching jackets." DR: "Oh, my favorite OTA moment was, um... end of Season 2, walking on the beach. (Audience has "aww" reaction) Heh, heh, heh. That was nice." EBR: "That really Season 2? That felt like yesterday." DR: "That was the end of Season 2. We were all on the beach, walking around... I enjoyed it." SA: "I'm the same episode, but for a different reason... (EBR interjected something about him sleeping) Yeah, I get to sleep the entire episode. Aside from the super involved and difficult flashbacks. Um, but I liked that first episode - (To EBR) your first episode in the bunker - for a variety of reasons. Um, but mostly it was just hearing you and David work together for, I think, probably the first time? The first time, you know, with any sort of extensive, you know, dialogue together, which is why, even though I'm in a coma, if you look closely, there's a little bit of a smile on my face." (Audience laughs) EBR: "Where's the part where you kept laughing, but you were supposed to be dead on the table?" SA: "I've gotten a lot better about cracking up." EBR: "Besides last week. Let's talk about -" DR: "Oh yeah." SA: "Aside from last week. David and I both shot our coverage for a scene." EBR: "Totally, scene's done." DR: "My coverage was done." SA: "And then for no reason, we both just lost it on Emily's coverage." DR: "Couldn't get a word out." SA: "I actually felt legitimately bad." DR: "Sometimes I have to look at - sometimes I look at Stephen's - you have look very closely at my scenes with Stephen because most of the time I'm looking at just above his left eyebrow. I'm not looking at him right in the eye because he does things to me."

-- Fan asked if SA would do American Ninja Warrior again, given the opportunity, and if DR and EBR would join him. SA: "The second part first. I like to think I'm sort of strong. David's way stronger than me. Emily's way stronger than both of us. She's a crazy person. ... I do sort of want to stay in my lane. It was fun to do Celebrity Ninja Warrior, but I don't think it's necessarily my next career move. Right? So, if NBC was doing it again... from a celebrity aspect, then absolutely. If I thought I could benefit the greater good, then for sure. But I don't know if it's my - I don't know if learning how to do the pink board is my next step." EBR: "I believe in you. I think it's your next step. I'm ready. I'm ready to see you do it." SA: "I'm ready to see you do it."

-- Regarding online negative comments and SA saying that he didn't feel bad for himself but for the person who's attacking him, SA: "Well, look, notoriety and being visible in the public spectrum is an interesting thing. Um, we, as actors, don't - I don't think anyone on this stage had the objective of becoming famous. But we did have the objective of working. And if you work, you get a little bit of notoriety. You understand, for a room like this, that's filled with so many people with positive feelings, there's always going to be a couple of people that are super negative. But I see that happen and I think back to moments like this and rooms like this and days like yesterday, where I met yesterday, probably give or take, maybe 1200 people - a few hundred people - and I had 1200 to 1500 incredibly positive interactions. So when I see something like that happen, I think to myself, 'Okay, whatever I'm doing, probably doing it the right way. Whatever's happening with this person, it has nothing to do with me.' So you think to yourself, I'm not going to take that personally at all, and I'm going to have empathy for them. And that's just the way I like to live my life."

-- On meeting SA for the first time, EBR: "It was August 8. I walked in. The lights were shining... We were like a block and a half away from my house, and I had to go like four blocks away to go for, you know, hair and makeup and whatnot. And I rolled up. And Stephen was in the - one of the rooms with like a bunch of his best buddies... and I like walked in... just sort of like, 'hi, I'm here for the day, um, you won't remember me'... And he was like so nice and charming, and I was like, 'stop talking, I just want to do my work,' because I was so nervous. (Laughs) I was so nervous and I like - and I was like ready to play, and you were just so kind. And you were like, 'sit, like, have a coffee' ... I can't eat, I can't drink, I just need to do my lines... I need to act, act, act, act. So I was just like tunnel vision. And then I walked out of there and I called Fanta, I called my best friend, and she was like, 'how was it?' And I was like, 'don't remember anything, don't remember anything that happened.' She was like, 'okay, do you want to go get a drink?' I was just like, 'yeah.' And then I never thought I'd be back. I honestly never thought I'd be back. I - like, I left that day and I called my team. I was like, 'yeah, it went really well, I'm going to go back to the dog shop and do a couple hours of work.' And then, um, yeah, I took the dog for a run, went for a drink with Fanta, and woke up a couple days later, and they asked me to come back for episodes... (SA holds up five fingers) 5? And I was like, oh no, I'm gonna have to quit my job. And then - and then my boss at the dog shop was like, 'you have to quit, I'm not going to fire you.' I tried to keep it for the whole first season. She was like, 'you have to quit, you don't show up here anyway, you have to quit.' So (to SA) thank you. It was really nice meeting you."

-- Fan asked SA what was the hardest stunt he ever had to do. SA: "Episode 1, Season 2. I had to swing down and grab Felicity off of the [land mine]... I had to swing from very high. And they weren't going to let me do it. And I was very [unintelligible words] made them let me do it. And I got up in the tree and I was like, 'uhgh, this is like the worst idea, it's so high.' And actually, there was a - this was not the most difficult stunt, but the most scary stunt that I've ever done is in episode 9 this year. It's not going to seem like a lot, but I had to be - I was running a harness, and they had to lift me up, and lifted me 20 feet in the air. And what they're doing in the stunt is they're dropping me into a room Ethan Hunt-style, like in Mission Impossible - the first Mission Impossible. And, raising up wasn't the scary part. And going down wasn't the scary part. But when I was 20 feet in the air, even though I was harnessed in really well, you have to invert me. And as you're doing it, all I can hear is all of the hook points on the harness going 'errrrrrr'. So scary. So scary. And then I found out how scary the stunt guys found it and I felt better about the fact that I almost peed in my pants."

-- Fan asked if any of them was interested in directing. SA: "My ultimate goal is to have both of the people sitting next to me direct an episode... I want no part of it, whatsover." DR: "Yeah, I think, um - I've expressed an interest in directing an episode. What would push me toward that? It's just, uh, adding something to the story. What I have to add to the stories. I'm a fan. I'm a big fan of the show. I'm a fan of these characters... So I would love to be a part of that. And when we're on the set, it's such a collaborative effort that, unless you just aren't present. Just learning so much on the job. And it's totally respect for so many people's departments - wardrobe, costume, script department, the camera department, the lighting department... So, um, I don't know. I would like to be on that other side of that camera because I'm also a fan." EBR: "The answer is absolutely yes for me. I'm excited for when David directs. I'm excited for when Stephen stops crying about it and actually directs. Um, the answer is yes. Absolutely. Like, we have such an amazing crew. I'm happy to go to work every single day. Every day. And hang out with these people. Like, maybe 150, 200 people we work with every day? Is that right? And every single person is someone I look forward to seeing. And to be able to take on a different department, play a different role, in sort of this machine that we all collaborate and work on together in - as a family - is just like kind of fun. It's like sitting in a different chair at the table... We need more women directors. We have about three this season, I think. Four? Four out of 23. But some directors come back. Um, yeah, so I think it'd be really great."

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3 hours ago, tv echo said:

 

-- Regarding online negative comments and SA saying that he didn't feel bad for himself but for the person who's attacking him, SA: "Well, look, notoriety and being visible in the public spectrum is an interesting thing. Um, we, as actors, don't - I don't think anyone on this stage had the objective of becoming famous. But we did have the objective of working. And if you work, you get a little bit of notoriety. You understand, for a room like this, that's filled with so many people with positive feelings, there's always going to be a couple of people that are super negative. But I see that happen and I think back to moments like this and rooms like this and days like yesterday, where I met yesterday, probably give or take, maybe 1200 people - a few hundred people - and I had 1200 to 1500 incredibly positive interactions. So when I see something like that happen, I think to myself, 'Okay, whatever I'm doing, probably doing it the right way. Whatever's happening with this person, it has nothing to do with me.' So you think to yourself, I'm not going to take that personally at all, and I'm going to have empathy for them. And that's just the way I like to live my life."

Words for Jerk Avacado to learn wisdom from. 

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scarynikki12

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7 hours ago, Sakura12 said:

Panels are free, you just show up and try to get a good seat. Sometimes I'd sit through a panel I don't care about just to get a good seat for the panel I want to see. 

Unless they’ve changed the rules, HVFF clears the seats after each panel. If you have two panels back to back you can see both but get a close up seat for only one. 

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3 minutes ago, scarynikki12 said:

Unless they’ve changed the rules, HVFF clears the seats after each panel. If you have two panels back to back you can see both but get a close up seat for only one. 

Dragon*Con was like that too, I don't know if they still are. I was shocked that NYCC didn't clear the rooms, I was able to get great seats for the next panel simply by sitting through the previous one.

Surprising the one that worked the best, IMO was COH2 which had 2 ballrooms for panels, you were assigned to one and it was like your Homeroom. You just sat there and the actors came to you. Each room got every actor just in different order. Unfortunately COH2 failed in a few other areas like no printing out hundred of photos and making you wait 8 months to get your photo unless you wanted a digital download only

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I wanted to summarize how my first con experience was! God I had such a blast meeting fandom friends and David, Stephen, and Emily. I'm just going to split up my different experiences with OTA (who are pretty much the only people I met this weekend).

Emily:

Emily was the first person I met on Saturday. The first time I saw her I honestly thought she was photoshopped because she is that gorgeous in real life. I was actually really impressed that she was the first one there, I think she got there promptly at 9 -9:15 to start signing. The line was insanely long and I totally understand why. It's amazing how much attention she gave each and every person who met her, she actually took the time to have a conversation with everyone. It's something I genuinely wasn't expecting and what's great is that she seemed very comfortable talking to everyone.

My chat with Emily was awesome too. She absolutely loved the gift I gave her (which was a kitchen magnet of meme faces her dog Ophie makes) and showed it to her friend and literally laughed so hard with that ridiculously infectious laugh of hers. Anyways when she calmed down, I asked my question and it took a bit to get it out  because I was kind of freaking nervous but Emily was totally patient and gave me all of her attention… I showed her a picture of all the times Felicity was on top and asked her why that is and credit where credit's due she didn't falter, didn't look nervous, but immediately responded that she's a badass and she likes being on top lol. 

I saw Emily again on Sunday but it was clear she was a lot busier and didn't have the same time as she did on Saturday which is fair. She didn't make as much conversation but she was still really sweet. I still managed to ask her a question though - she gave me the same exact attention as she did on Saturday which I very much appreciated. I asked her hypothetically whether if Felicity were to get married would she take Oliver's last name, hyphenate, or keep her own last name? And Emily actually gave a very passionate response. She said that in her opinion she'd want Felicity to keep her own last name because that's who she is, Felicity is a Smoak and she'd hate for her to lose that. She also mentioned that if she were to ever get married she'd want to keep her own last name too.

Onto Emily's photo op sessions, they were so much fun! She was so bubbly and light and had so much energy it was awesome to see and so incredibly infectious. She is just pure happiness personified. She kept dancing in between ops and her friends (Carina/Jarett) were there too and they were respectful and nice too. They were  playing Celine Dion's song "All Coming Back to Me Now" - and  I obviously started singing along and Carina basically screamed "YES, THANK YOU!" when she saw that I was, it was kinda funny. But yeah the photo ops went by way too quickly but Emily was totally gracious and sweet the entire time.

Stephen:

I met Stephen on both days too and my experience with him changed dramatically between Saturday and Sunday.  I really wasn't impressed with him on Saturday. He didn't really seem into having any conversations, he seemed kinda moody, although he did laugh at the present I gave him and said thank you but I honestly expected more from my interaction with him… I can't really say that much about our interaction on Saturday, I asked him why Felicity was always on top and he kinda brushed it off and said ask Emily. So yeah it didn't seem like he was in a fun mood.  Even at the photo ops he wasn't into it. You could really tell by his demeanor and energy level. I think we all figured that it's because of the whole wrestling thing from the night before…

But on Sunday I was honestly surprised how much his mood lifted. He paid a lot more attention, was wayyyy more appreciative of  the gift I got him, and he was definitely a lot more playful with the way he signed my friend's photo of Oliver/Felicity's wedding kiss. He playfully asked "Where is this from!?" while very slowly drawing question marks on the picture :p Stephen also gave us a couple of spoilers like how Oliver will get his dessert by the end of the year and how the Hoffmans are going to return in 609 - we would've told him we know that but we didn't want to break his heart lmao.

I was honestly so impressed by him on Sunday, he was really charming and did I mention gorgeous? Oh my god that man is just… A+ especially when he looks at you his eyes are just so blue.

Not only that but during photo ops he was way more enthusiastic! He seemed so excited! His hugs were a lot tighter and his smile was brighter too.  During my OTA op I asked for a sort of group hug? I asked for David to be behind me and before I could say I wanted Emily in the middle too Stephen basically said "I want to hug you!" and opened his arms. Seriously, how could I resist? It was impossible so I walked straight into his arms lmao. God in that moment I loved him so much. That interaction just really made me so incredibly happy. And in my other Olicity op which I will upload later this weekend, I showed him a picture of what I wanted and he was just so awesome about it. He said "I gotchu" and proceeded to really enthusiastically recreate the prompt.

So yeah, Sunday totally made up for Saturday with Stephen. I'm really happy about that and meeting him. He really does seem like such a great guy in real life. 

David:

All I can say is I am in love with this man. YEP. TOTALLY in love. David spends so much time with his fans it's just incredible. Not only that but he's a lot more open and warm and personal. Literally the first thing he does when you come up to him is give you the biggest bear hug. It's no joke, he is one of the best huggers ever. Seriously he holds you so tight and he smells so good ugh. I just love him.

Anyways I managed to give David my present (the same one as I gave Stephen) - it was a shirt with a vector of Diggle and next to it, it says "WWJDD - What Would John Diggle do". He loved it SO much seriously he literally gave me 3 more hugs after that. Not only that but he took like 3 selfies with me. After that he signed the picture I gave him and I swear he kept saying my name over and over again it was just so sweet and heart melting. Not only that but before I left he gave me ANOTHER hug. I swear I smelled like David for the next few hours and it was awesome lmao

I told David I got him another shirt (same kind different color) and I'd deliver it to him on Sunday and when I got back to him he not only remembered me but he gave me another hug. At first it wasn't a bear hug like the one he gave me on Saturday so I legit held on tighter and he said"oh my god you're so good at giving hugs" and reciprocated!!! Anyways he was again so appreciative of the gift and of just me in general and we just hugged another 4 times it was so awesome. I accidentally let it slip out on our 3rd hug that he smelled so good and he was like "yeah people keep telling me that!" and I asked him what it was and he said "well I don't want to tell you because then you'd think of me while you're with your man - wait a minute OK I'll tell you" it was so hilarious :p He DID end up telling me what he was wearing though .

Anyways, I was so so so happy with my interaction with him words can't express how genuine, warm, and kind David is. I will mention this again because I can't stress this enough - I literally fell in love with David Ramsey this weekend.

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I'm so incredibly happy with my interactions with all of them. Stephen, Emily, David are just the sweetest most beautiful people and their chemistry, their interactions, all their hugs they gave each other throughout the weekend just goes to show why they work on screen.  You could even see it in the panel just how easily they all got along with each other. You can see they are best of friends and have the highest respect for one another. I know there will be people who think that the questions sucked but to me the panel was so much fun. We didn't get a lot of spoilers but we got to see OTA interact in real life, we got to see them have fun, and god that girl Addison telling OTA that she liked Emily better was PRICELESS!

Anyways, I don't really know what else to say other than this weekend was just everything I wanted it to be and more and I genuinely hope I get to go to more cons in the future. 

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Aw, glad you had a awesome time, @WindofChange! Thanks for sharing with us.

(I wouldn't be surprised if the wrestling the night before ruined SA's mood on Saturday. I say from experience that back injuries are the wooooorrrsssssst!)

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18 minutes ago, Angel12d said:

Aw, glad you had a awesome time, @WindofChange! Thanks for sharing with us.

(I wouldn't be surprised if the wrestling the night before ruined SA's mood on Saturday. I say from experience that back injuries are the wooooorrrsssssst!)

of course! I'm so sorry the post is incredibly sloppy and not well written at all I'm still on cloud nine after this weekend!

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4 hours ago, Angel12d said:

Aw, glad you had a awesome time, @WindofChange! Thanks for sharing with us.

(I wouldn't be surprised if the wrestling the night before ruined SA's mood on Saturday. I say from experience that back injuries are the wooooorrrsssssst!)

I bet he was running on little to no sleep as well.   He keeps talking about days he has no time to sleep while he's hopping around the country.  Can you get jet lagged even if you've just barely left the time zone?

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@WindofChange It sounds like you had a wonderful time.  If I were to ever go to a con DR and EBR would be the two I would want to meet.    Are you able to tell us what he was wearing?  I must admit I am curious.  Everyone always says he smells so good.  Inquiring minds want to know :)

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