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okay paying a bum so you can beat him and let out your inner frustrations was wtf

 

then having sex with some gay guy so you can bug his phone another wtf

 

the final wtf was freaky bdsm scene with pregnant wife ........no comment

 

elliot is frustrating because dude is dumb and the hacker's plan is very stupid I do not see this ending well for him or any of the players involved. Also i think Elliot should really hack his blonde friend's bf computer because  the couple is about to do some really dumb ish that could jepoadize him and he got his boss suspecting him  now since he acted all funny at the party and jsut abrutly left.

 

He really is an awful liar has a hard time explaining himself and I see he has gotten himself into a situation that is over his head . Why won't this dumbass talk to somebody and unload this fucking burden

 

I don't understand

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I played it over and over but I still can't quite understand what he says just before everything goes all 'sunshiny'. He says he can't believe it, is it for real (hah!) then something about the fsociety and the reality he's created and not messing it up again. Did anyone get that?

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Wow, Tyrell is more messed up than Elliot. And 'm finally agreeing that Mr. Esmail does not like or respect women at all.

 

I think I've settled on only Christian Slater being unreal. He's the part of Elliot that is consumed by anger at his father but also wants revenge on the Evil Corp. that killed him. So he vacillates between wanting to take down E Corp and essentially crash and burn contemporary capitalist society and feeling moral compunctions about doing so.

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This is what I heard after Mr. Robot walks out the door: Elliot says, "Did you hear that? I can't believe it. Is it really happening? Fsociety's finally over. Everything good from the otherwise neat reality I created over the years... I'll never slip up like that again. I'm going to be more normal now."

 

And then it cuts to something out of the USA brand blue sky shows like White Collar. Ha! Seeing Elliot standing there with Starbucks coffee all peppy about his boss's party-- that's a weird trip... but not as weird as the show Tyrell is in. It's like American Psycho meets 50 Shades or something?

 

Now that the E-Corp CTO is connected to Elliot's father's leukemia, Elliot has a strong motive to frame him, which points more to the Elliot = Mr. Robot theory. The way people seem to ignore Mr. Robot even when he's speaking very loudly strongly suggest that he's not real.

 

I was happy to see the brief appearance of Spangler from Rubicon-- especially after all the comparisons this show gets to Rubicon. I was so sad when it was canceled.

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...I was happy to see the brief appearance of Spangler from Rubicon-- especially after all the comparisons this show gets to Rubicon. I was so sad when it was canceled.

Yes. I want to believe they added that part in after reading our posts. And it was a better show.
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Elliott and Shayla,great!  What happened to Shayla at the dinner party?  His friend has been with that guy for two years? I don't know what to think about the guy with the wife, other than he plays creepy really , really well! 

 

I must confess to not really following much of the plot. I don't know who is Evil Corp, who is Fstop, or whatever, and what each of them want. I would like to see Elliott get off of drugs.  Has he been diagnosed with a personality disorder? I would also like to see him making real progress in counseling, if for no other reason but to see Gloria Reuben more. 

 

This is a good summer show. I could not get interested in Complications? or is it Confessions?   Maybe I need to give it another try. 

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Yes. I want to believe they added that part in after reading our posts. And it was a better show.

The episode would have been filmed long before we started posting anything. But now that Spangler is running it, we know E Corp is definitely evil.

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This is what I heard after Mr. Robot walks out the door: Elliot says, "Did you hear that? I can't believe it. Is it really happening? Fsociety's finally over. Everything good from the otherwise neat reality I created over the years... I'll never slip up like that again. I'm going to be more normal now."

 

And then it cuts to something out of the USA brand blue sky shows like White Collar. Ha! Seeing Elliot standing there with Starbucks coffee all peppy about his boss's party-- that's a weird trip... but not as weird as the show Tyrell is in. It's like American Psycho meets 50 Shades or something?

 

Now that the E-Corp CTO is connected to Elliot's father's leukemia, Elliot has a strong motive to frame him, which points more to the Elliot = Mr. Robot theory. The way people seem to ignore Mr. Robot even when he's speaking very loudly strongly suggest that he's not real.

 

I was happy to see the brief appearance of Spangler from Rubicon-- especially after all the comparisons this show gets to Rubicon. I was so sad when it was canceled.

Didn't the bartender acknowledge mr.robot right before elliot ordered the drink ??

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I played it over and over but I still can't quite understand what he says just before everything goes all 'sunshiny'. He says he can't believe it, is it for real (hah!) then something about the fsociety and the reality he's created and not messing it up again. Did anyone get that?

Did you hear that? I can't believe it. Is it really happening? Fsociety is finally over. The recent glitch in an otherwise neat reality I created over the years. I'll never slip up like that again. I'm going to be more normal now. Maybe Shayla could even be my girlfriend. I'll go see those stupid Marvel movies with her. I'll join a gym. I'll heart things on Instagram. I'll drink vanilla lattes. I'm gonna lead a bug-free life from now on. Anything to protect my perfect maze. Or what LazyNeko said. :)

So if Elliot is Fight Club then Tyrell is American Psycho. I hope tptb wrap up the Fsociety stuff soon. It's my least favorite part of the show.

Really disappointed in Angela at the end there.

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Elliott and Shayla,great!  What happened to Shayla at the dinner party?  His friend has been with that guy for two years? I don't know what to think about the guy with the wife, other than he plays creepy really , really well! 

 

I must confess to not really following much of the plot. I don't know who is Evil Corp, who is Fstop, or whatever, and what each of them want. I would like to see Elliott get off of drugs.  Has he been diagnosed with a personality disorder? I would also like to see him making real progress in counseling, if for no other reason but to see Gloria Reuben more. 

 

This is a good summer show. I could not get interested in Complications? or is it Confessions?   Maybe I need to give it another try. 

it's complications and it actually looks pretty decent i want to watch but i have way too many shows on my palte right now

 

lol its fsociey not fstop lol

Did you hear that? I can't believe it. Is it really happening? Fsociety is finally over. The recent glitch in an otherwise neat reality I created over the years. I'll never slip up like that again. I'm going to be more normal now. Maybe Shayla could even be my girlfriend. I'll go see those stupid Marvel movies with her. I'll join a gym. I'll heart things on Instagram. I'll drink vanilla lattes. I'm gonna lead a bug-free life from now on. Anything to protect my perfect maze.

So if Elliot is Fight Club then Tyrell is American Psycho. I hope tptb wrap up the Fsociety stuff soon. It's my least favorite part of the show.

Really disappointed in Angela at the end there.

Tyrell scenes were a little much from the homeless guy , pregnant wife and the sex scene lol  and yes fscoiety is honestly lame there whole plan is like so stupid and was cause more problems

 

yeah Angela taking back cheating Asshole really irked me . It irks me when i see it in real life and irks me in fiction.

 

He would definitely drop her if she were to do the same to him i don't understand why women cling on to men who cheat on them it jsut screams deseperate in my opinion or low self esteem.

Did you hear that? I can't believe it. Is it really happening? Fsociety is finally over. The recent glitch in an otherwise neat reality I created over the years. I'll never slip up like that again. I'm going to be more normal now. Maybe Shayla could even be my girlfriend. I'll go see those stupid Marvel movies with her. I'll join a gym. I'll heart things on Instagram. I'll drink vanilla lattes. I'm gonna lead a bug-free life from now on. Anything to protect my perfect maze.

So if Elliot is Fight Club then Tyrell is American Psycho. I hope tptb wrap up the Fsociety stuff soon. It's my least favorite part of the show.

Really disappointed in Angela at the end there.

Tyrell scenes were a little much from the homeless guy , pregnant wife and the sex scene lol  and yes fscoiety is honestly lame there whole plan is like so stupid and was cause more problems

 

yeah Angela taking back cheating Asshole really irked me . It irks me when i see it in real life and irks me in fiction.

 

He would definitely drop her if she were to do the same to him i don't understand why women cling on to men who cheat on them it jsut screams deseperate in my opinion or low self esteem.

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Didn't the bartender acknowledge mr.robot right before elliot ordered the drink ??

 

Nope.  I watched his eyes like a hawk: He only looked at Elliot.

 

I'd say Slater showing up at Elliot's office like that (given that fsociety is supposed to be so secret) was the biggest clue so far that he's not real.

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Nope.  I watched his eyes like a hawk: He only looked at Elliot.

 

I'd say Slater showing up at Elliot's office like that (given that fsociety is supposed to be so secret) was the biggest clue so far that he's not real.

so elliot is mentally off and pushed himself onto those rock's interesting . I mean we already know he is off but he is more off than i thought

 

the only thing is like i said i think fsociety plan is very stupid and in real life elliot is  the exact type of person who would get caught. One he is a very awful liar and the way he acts is extremely suspicious.

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What language were Tyrell and his wife speaking?

I couldn't really pin it down. It wasn't Russian, or German.

My guess is Romanian, but I'm not really sure.

i thought they said he was swedish in like the 1st or second episode

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wow I just realized how dumb elliot is if he is Mr.Robot when Angela revealed ellio'ts father death was caused by the man he framed his boss now see that elliot and Angela  both have motive's to frame this guy for the fsociety plot.  His boss is already suspicious of him and if mr.robot is fake elliot is doing a very bad job of keeping a low profile and keeping the bulleye off him

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What language were Tyrell and his wife speaking?

I couldn't really pin it down. It wasn't Russian, or German.

My guess is Romanian, but I'm not really sure.

I'm pretty sure it was Swedish, but I've only completed Unit 1 of Rosetta Stone Swedish, so it could be some other Scandinavian language, they all sound alike.

 

Does it make sense that Elliot's other personality would be twice his age? 

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Okay, I think we have enough layers, show. I need to be shown some clue of the story line.

There was a lot I liked in this show, the scene with shayla when she was showing Elliot her art, the whole 'I can be normal' sequence, but I'm getting tired of trying to figure out what's real.

I'm in for a couple more episodes, maybe.

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...Does it make sense that Elliot's other personality would be twice his age?

Yes, because he's the personification of Elliot's dead father. With the high percentage of screen time spent on violence this week (too much for me) the show seemed to veer over even further into Fight Club territory, but Christian Slater is not playing (IMO) Elliot's alter ego so much as filling the gap left by the loss of his father--both emotionally and physically.

Why did they cast and dress Shayla and and the FSociety girl to be so similar? Are they both real?

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I really hope they aren't going down the "Mr. Robot is Elliott's mental projection" angle. Coupled with the anti corporate sentiment and the plot to eliminate global debt, it'd be hitting way too many "Fight Club" notes too on the nose.

I do find the episode titles an amusing poke at the Internet underground.

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wow I just realized how dumb elliot is if he is Mr.Robot when Angela revealed ellio'ts father death was caused by the man he framed his boss now see that elliot and Angela  both have motive's to frame this guy for the fsociety plot.  His boss is already suspicious of him and if mr.robot is fake elliot is doing a very bad job of keeping a low profile and keeping the bulleye off him

Elliot as the Elliot part of his disassociated personality doesn't know that he and Mr. Robot are the same. He has psychically spun him off and believes that Robot is another, real person. But Elliot as Elliot does know that the reveal about Colby's complicity in the deaths of his father and Angela's mother will put renewed suspicion on him, which is why he ran from the party in distress.

 

The actor who plays Tyrell is Swedish so I assume that was Swedish they were speaking.

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What language were Tyrell and his wife speaking?

I couldn't really pin it down. It wasn't Russian, or German.

My guess is Romanian, but I'm not really sure.

 

We know Tyrell is Swedish (I think part of how Elliot hacked his password was because it included some trivia about Sweden). 

 

Closed captioning confirmed the language was Swedish.

 

wow I just realized how dumb elliot is if he is Mr.Robot when Angela revealed ellio'ts father death was caused by the man he framed his boss now see that elliot and Angela  both have motive's to frame this guy for the fsociety plot.  His boss is already suspicious of him and if mr.robot is fake elliot is doing a very bad job of keeping a low profile and keeping the bulleye off him

 

There is no way Elliot could have predicted that Angela or anyone would blurt out the leukemia thing, even if he had all his faculties together.

 

I also think it's easy for us knowing what we know to suspect Elliot. But it would be much harder for Gideon to deduce that Elliott planted the .dat file to get revenge against Colby because Colby was in on concealing the leukemia risk and that risk killed his dad.

 

Heck, I think that Elliot himself didn't know that Colby had personal involvement in concealing the leukemia risk. (And it may be that he didn't, and Elliot/the hackers faked the memo)

 

I really hope they aren't going down the "Mr. Robot is Elliott's mental projection" angle. Coupled with the anti corporate sentiment and the plot to eliminate global debt, it'd be hitting way too many "Fight Club" notes too on the nose.

 

Sorry, but there is basically zero chance that Mr. Robot is a real person. Just in this last episode alone, walking into All Safe with no permission, talking pretty loudly and profanely and not drawing any attention. I just don't see how he could be real.

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I like that Gideon is still investigating that server. I love Elliot, but the guy is sketchy as hell and Gideon would be an idiot to blindly trust him.

 

Also, was that Randy Harrison playing Gideon's boyfriend?? I just about dropped my coffee when he appeared on screen. I never thought he'd have another TV role after publicly trashing QaF.

 

I'm probably in the minority here but I'm glad that they aren't just dropping the drug use storyline. It adds another level of unreliability to Elliot, which (for me) makes things all the more interesting.

 

After this episode, I'm convinced that only Christian Slater is imaginary. I guess all their conversations take place inside Elliot's mind... otherwise we'd have a lot more reaction shots from people like the receptionist, the bartender, etc.

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Nope.  I watched his eyes like a hawk: He only looked at Elliot.

 

Yeah but the bartender charged Elliot $12!

 

For one damn appletini?  Had to be for both Mr. Robot's and Elliot's!

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Yeah but the bartender charged Elliot $12!

 

For one damn appletini?  Had to be for both Mr. Robot's and Elliot's!

 

Twelve bucks is about the going rate for a drink like an appletini in Tribeca (where Allsafe is located).

 

ETA, whoever does the scouting/location work for USA does a great job. Shows like this and White Collar have great Manhattan skyline porn while also showing interesting street level detail.

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The girlfriend "taking back" the cheating boyfriend read as BS to me. Seemed obvious to me she's up to something and was just pretending to take him back to keep him calm and not suspicious. She doesn't want him going to the police so she's keeping him close and compliant until she can figure out her plan. I wonder, though, why her first thought wouldn't be to ask her brilliant hacker best friend for help...

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Yeah but the bartender charged Elliot $12!

 

For one damn appletini?  Had to be for both Mr. Robot's and Elliot's!

In NYC $12 isn't too much for a mixed drink with mid-shelf vodka, not by a long shot. Even in a dive bar with license plates all over the walls, especially in Manhattan.

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The girlfriend "taking back" the cheating boyfriend read as BS to me. Seemed obvious to me she's up to something and was just pretending to take him back to keep him calm and not suspicious. She doesn't want him going to the police so she's keeping him close and compliant until she can figure out her plan. I wonder, though, why her first thought wouldn't be to ask her brilliant hacker best friend for help...

Yeah I got the same sense. She turned on that dime a little too quickly. And finally made herself interesting to me. I suspect she will go to Elliot, but she's not going to let her dumbass boyfriend in on that. He's burnt.

 

Also she may have guessed that whoever hacked into his computer has enabled the webcam, which doesn't seem to have occurred to the boyfriend. So she's playing possum.

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Yes, because he's the personification of Elliot's dead father. With the high percentage of screen time spent on violence this week (too much for me) the show seemed to veer over even further into Fight Club territory, but Christian Slater is not playing (IMO) Elliot's alter ego so much as filling the gap left by the loss of his father--both emotionally and physically.

Why did they cast and dress Shayla and and the FSociety girl to be so similar? Are they both real?

yes Shayla is real . Darlene addressed Shayla when elliot found her in his house and Shayla was also addressed again Gideon's boyfriend asked her howl ong they been together.  He acknowledged her presence. Angela also acknowledge shayla's presence the time she walked in after Shayla and Ellliot had sex.

I see the gay sex scene has gotten alot of people upset on a few other fan boards lol people talking about they going to tune out the show because they didn't want to see two guys having sex.

 

It going to be interesting seeing more and more tv shows adding gay couples on screen with sex scenes and seeing how people react to it.

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In NYC $12 isn't too much for a mixed drink with mid-shelf vodka, not by a long shot. Even in a dive bar with license plates all over the walls, especially in Manhattan.

Well then Eliot needs to add that to the list of ills about the modern world.

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I also think it's easy for us knowing what we know to suspect Elliot. But it would be much harder for Gideon to deduce that Elliott planted the .dat file to get revenge against Colby because Colby was in on concealing the leukemia risk and that risk killed his dad.

But Gideon did deduce it, right? That's why he was back at the office checking on the server again at the end of the episode, I thought

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Ok, I am confused.  is Darlene the hacker girl? Is Shayla the neighbor and the drug dealer, or was Darlene the drug dealer?   I like the show, I just don't follow it well. 

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yes Shayla is real . Darlene addressed Shayla when elliot found her in his house and Shayla was also addressed again Gideon's boyfriend asked her howl ong they been together.  He acknowledged her presence. Angela also acknowledge shayla's presence the time she walked in after Shayla and Ellliot had sex.I see the gay sex scene has gotten alot of people upset on a few other fan boards lol people talking about they going to tune out the show because they didn't want to see two guys having sex.

 

It going to be interesting seeing more and more tv shows adding gay couples on screen with sex scenes and seeing how people react to it.

I was surprised that they had him cleaning up his partner with a towel afterwards. I don't think I've ever seen that depicted before, even in male-female sex scenes.

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I also think it's easy for us knowing what we know to suspect Elliot. But it would be much harder for Gideon to deduce that Elliott planted the .dat file to get revenge against Colby because Colby was in on concealing the leukemia risk and that risk killed his dad.

 

Gideon knows something is different about Elliot. He's showing up late for work with cuts and bruises. He has a "girlfriend". He withheld information about the file. And (this is the clincher) he is drinking Starbucks.

 

All of that started after the Evil hack. So it's not unreasonable for him to assume it's all related.

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Ok, I am confused.  is Darlene the hacker girl? Is Shayla the neighbor and the drug dealer, or was Darlene the drug dealer?   I like the show, I just don't follow it well. 

yes Darlene is the hacker and Shayla is the drug dealer you are correct

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Ok, I am confused.  is Darlene the hacker girl? Is Shayla the neighbor and the drug dealer, or was Darlene the drug dealer?

Darlene is the hacker girl, and Shayla is the neighbor who was his drug dealer. You're confused because the two look similar and are styled almost identically. 

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What language were Tyrell and his wife speaking?

I couldn't really pin it down. It wasn't Russian, or German.

My guess is Romanian, but I'm not really sure.

As mentioned by several other posters here, Tyrell spoke Swedish, but his wife spoke Danish 

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Yeah I got the same sense. She turned on that dime a little too quickly. And finally made herself interesting to me. I suspect she will go to Elliot, but she's not going to let her dumbass boyfriend in on that. He's burnt.

 

Also she may have guessed that whoever hacked into his computer has enabled the webcam, which doesn't seem to have occurred to the boyfriend. So she's playing possum.

And, while she might not be anywhere near Elliot's level of IQ, she knows enough to figure that if it's a hacking problem, Elliot can fix it. Right?

yes Shayla is real . Darlene addressed Shayla when elliot found her in his house and Shayla was also addressed again Gideon's boyfriend asked her howl ong they been together.  He acknowledged her presence. Angela also acknowledge shayla's presence the time she walked in after Shayla and Ellliot had sex....

Okay. But then is Darlene real? Maybe nobody from FSociety is real?
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Darlene is the hacker girl, and Shayla is the neighbor who was his drug dealer. You're confused because the two look similar and are styled almost identically. 

I've wondered if they did this deliberately, making them look so similar.

 

There was some pretty raw stuff in this episode.  Swedish dude is psychotic.  Was all of that so we would be sure to root for Elliott to take him down?  It was a little much, especially beating up the bum.  And who were those two guys just standing there watching, bodyguards?  I thought the cleaning up stuff after sex was just to get the guy to take a shower.

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Damn, Tyrell just got crazy!  In just the span of one day (and night, I guess), he beats up a hobo (at least he paid him: he's all about capitalism!), has sex with a guy in order to get access to his phone, and then comes home to have some nice bondage time with his pregnant wife.  I wouldn't be surprised if that's a normal Wednesday for him!

 

I thinking it's more and more likely that Christian Slater/Mr. Robot is a figment of Elliot's imagination, but I'm starting to think everyone else in FSociety is real though.  It certainly looks like Darlene is real, since Shayla acknowledged her.  And Shayla's obviously real, since all of Elliot's working colleagues acknowledge her.  The only other option would be everyone is just in Elliot's head, but I really hope they don't go that far off the deep-end.

 

Gideon still seems to be suspicious.  Have a feeling he's going to wind up in trouble.

 

Ollie is being bribed by rapper hacker, to install the computer in the company's mainframe, or they'll release all the info.  He at least tell Angela about the affair, but she's now more worried that the hacker got her and her dad's bank info and social security numbers, so she's freaking out.  I hope she's up to something, and isn't just going to forgive Ollie.  Especially after all the times he has the audacity to get pissy at her for hanging with Elliot.

 

The "bug-free" montage, with "Carefree Elliot" amused me.  It reminded me of the times in Sam Raimi's Spiderman films, when Peter Parker dared to hope he can have a normal life again.

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If Darlene and the other hackers are real but Mr. Robot is a figment, then Eliot is Mr. Robot or the ringleader of the hackers.

 

Could be why Mr. Robot said Eliot is the key to the hack they wanted to do.

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But Gideon did deduce it, right? That's why he was back at the office checking on the server again at the end of the episode, I thought

 

 

Gideon knows something is different about Elliot. He's showing up late for work with cuts and bruises. He has a "girlfriend". He withheld information about the file. And (this is the clincher) he is drinking Starbucks.

 

All of that started after the Evil hack. So it's not unreasonable for him to assume it's all related.

I agree that Gideon has reason to suspect that something is off. However, to come to the conclusion that Elliott hacked Evil Corp, stopped the hack for whatever reason, planted the .dat file to implicate Colby and that he did so in order to get revenge on Evil Corp because it gave his dad leukemia and on Colby specifically because he was one of the suits who let it happen requires a lot of leaps of logic based on what we have been shown that Gideon knows and the inferences he can draw from that.

 

Here's what I think it's safe to say Gideon knows:

 

Elliot is weird and socially awkward, but he's usually more on top of things than anyone else.

Elliot was instrumental in stopping the hack of Evil Corp.

At a meeting with Evil Corp, Elliot for the first time revealed he found a dat file associated with the hack.

Normally, Elliot would/should have brought that up before the meeting.

Asked about this, Elliot has given an evasive answer that boils down to him being uncertain about what he had with the dat file.

Elliot has cuts and bruises that he has explained by being clumsy.

There is a group of hackers called fsociety making ridiculous demands of Evil Corp.

fsociety has released information claiming that Colby buried the leukemia risk of whatever it was doing.

Angela and Elliot both have relatives who died of leukemia thanks to Evil Corp.

 

I think it's too soon to know if Gideon is continuing to check a) because of general analness b) because he thinks there's something fishy about Elliot generally or c) because he suspects Elliot of having planted the .dat file, being involved with the hack, etc. etc.

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OK, maybe I have not been paying enough attention, but it never even occurred to me that Mr. Robot was not real. However, now that I have read the comments here, that makes sense. Or in Elliott's head it makes sense anyway. I think Darlene has to be real though, since Shayla interacted with her in Elliott's apartment. Gideon is totally Mr. Keaton!

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I was surprised that they had him cleaning up his partner with a towel afterwards. I don't think I've ever seen that depicted before, even in male-female sex scenes.

idk why im usually indifferent to gay sex but for some reason i found that scene a little more gross than the ordinary .

 

the bdsm was also kind of disturbing and funny thing is i like bdsm but everytime i see it  it looks like some borderline rape/dubious consent type shit and im like ughhh noooooooooo thanks

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