Rotting Y&R: The Spoiler Thread

[miamama]

10 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

Heh. I know. It still amazes me that this show was fine with sacrificing Jack for Philly sex scenes. December can't come soon enough.

Which is no doubt why Sally was so disgusted by the storyline. Show was gonna sacrifice Jack AND the Abbotts for sex between two newbies!!!

This is a woman who has no fucks to give about the character of Adam and who didn't include Phyllis in her core 8. Philly had no chance. Hee.

I can't watch CDN until tomorrow. What does poor Jack picture in the preview? A new Philly sex scene??? Ugh.

The cabin has a turkey fire. Maybe it burns down?? This is where a Prattastrophe was in order. 

[HeatLifer]

9 minutes ago, miamama said:

Show was gonna sacrifice Jack AND the Abbotts for sex between two newbies!!!

It's pure insanity. Oh, wait, every character was supposed to accept Philly so they can make out and cuddle in every scene. Sorry.

17 minutes ago, miamama said:

I can't watch CDN until tomorrow. What does poor Jack picture in the preview? A new Philly sex scene??? Ugh.

Philly are making out in front of him. Billy is shirtless and taking Phyllis' shirt off. It literally looked like EVERY kissing scene they've shared. They're all directed in the same way for some reason.

[miamama]

11 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

It's pure insanity. Oh, wait, every character was supposed to accept Philly so they can make out and cuddle in every scene. Sorry.

lol. EXACTLY. 

11 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

Philly are making out in front of him. Billy is shirtless and taking Phyllis' shirt off. It literally looked like EVERY kissing scene they've shared. They're all directed in the same way for some reason.

Thanks. It would be a weird "vision" because they can't really show a flashback. It has to be Jack's imagination. So maybe they took a make out from a non-cabin scene and placed it there with Mal's fancy "flashback" trickery he's been doing. As you say, could have been any number of identical scenes.

Let me guess. Phyllis has a fancy bra on that will never come off. I found that funny and weird. It's not a GT thing because her bra comes off for sex scenes with Jack (and Marco). For some reason illicit sex scenes (i.e. outside marriage) are directed to include fancy lingerie on show. Or at least for Gina.

Well I'm sure these scenes will keep the Philly stans titillated for WEEKS. More fodder for their YouTube clips and tumblr accounts.

Poor Jack. :( See this is the thing with stans. That scene is actually about Jack being absolutely devastated. He needs to exorcise the demons at the cabin or that set needs to go (one or the other). But the stans make it all about hawtness and cheering for the cheaters. And what writer with a modicum of self respect (as a writer I mean) would want to write for the stans? You might as well just have soft porn on ALL THE TIME. That's all they want anyways.

Gods but I want to hug Sally Sussman. The fact that she not only sees the absurdity of Philly but that she is willing to state it with zero apologies speaks volumes.

[HeatLifer]

39 minutes ago, miamama said:

Let me guess. Phyllis has a fancy bra on that will never come off.

Yes. I just know it looked identical to every scene I've had to sit through with them.

40 minutes ago, miamama said:

Poor Jack. :( See this is the thing with stans. That scene is actually about Jack being absolutely devastated. He needs to exorcise the demons at the cabin or that set needs to go (one or the other). But the stans make it all about hawtness and cheering for the cheaters. And what writer with a modicum of self respect (as a writer I mean) would want to write for the stans? You might as well just have soft porn on ALL THE TIME. That's all they want anyways.

This. Jack looked so freaking sad. And that is what gives the story depth. His pain. His reaction. Not Philly's amateur hour "love story" that's a collection of sex scenes that look exactly the same every time.

[miamama]

Just now, HeatLifer said:

And that is what gives the story depth. His pain. His reaction.

You know the ONLY week that saw a ratings jump (considerably bigger than the previous year) in ages (since Victor's verdict when everyone thought he'd finally pay) was the week Jack found out about the affair. 

I noticed ratings were down half a million viewers the week of Nov. 7. Yikes. However I would attribute a great deal of that to the election. The ratings were especially bad the two days after the vote -- when everyone was in shock. lol.

[valleycliffe]

ok, first off "disclaimer".

i read this at a different board and there was no source given.  however, as a sharon/shick fan, i would love nothing more than for this to be true.

apparently, when sharon and dylan go to court the judge awards them visitation and also agrees that  sharon is the baby's mother cause she has been his mother and is the only mother baby knows.  and nick is the father....dylan sees shick bonding and feels left out and feels that he has no place in the baby's life and this is why he leaves town..

LOL  i soooooooo hope this is true.

[DivaT]

That'd be absurd and no pay off for the fans. Sharon should lose Sully for now. when she and nick get back together a few years from now then she can be the child's mother. but not right now. 

[valleycliffe]

LOL  maybe not for those who don't like the sharon character but for those of us who do are happy...sharon has been dragged thru the mud for years and years while others who commit murder, rape etc. are all showered with affection....so, as a sharon fan, I AM ECSTATIC.

 

this is just MY OPINION, as are all my posts and no one has to agree to it.

[DivaT]

I've never loved Sharon but I don't hate her. And that's mostly because I'm tired of her getting the short end of every story.  I'm tired of Sharon being stepped on and bussed. 

But having Sharon getting almost no consequences for her actions makes for terrible story. it's as bad as Victor not paying for the things he's done. I can't imagine anyone but die hard Sharon stans applauding  this extremely unfair end to that story, if that's the case. 

[valleycliffe]

and i wish they would have just killed off the baby like they did herb but they didn't...

i also do not believe it would be an unfair ending.  what has been unfair, is using sharon to prop up characters who were newbies and shoved down our throats...

anyway, i will agree to disagree with you....

[DivaT]

Same. That baby should have died.  But JFP wanted an anchor for her pet and CBS allowed it. I actually think the end was to have Adam and Chelsea raise him but JH left and they stupidly  killed the character AGAIN. 

 

I'd much rather see some random character file a law suit against the facility over her baby's disappearance then we find Sully is her child. goodbye kid. 

Edited November 28, 2016 by DivaT

[Desperately Random]

Just now, DivaT said:

But having Sharon getting almost no consequences for her actions makes for terrible story. it's as bad as Victor not paying for the things he's done. I can't imagine anyone but die hard Sharon stans applauding  this extremely unfair end to that story, if that's the case. 

This has been a terrible story no matter who ends up with SullyCan so I am fine with Sharon getting him. She's been shit on enough so I'd like to see one thing go her way. And since SullyCan's real mother is dead and Sharon is the only mother he has ever known then I say go ahead Show and end this storyline that way. This story was crap from the start and just got worse as it went along so no ending was going to save it.

Also, have to disagree with you about it being as bad as Victor not paying for thing's he's done. Because Victor is in a league of his own as far as breaking the law (he has facilitated multiple rapes, committed kidnappings, torture, fraud....). No one comes close to Victor and what he has gotten away with.

[DivaT]

I agree. Terrible story. One that will be made even worse by giving Sharon the child she was complicit in kidnapping. 

No one compares to Victor. however, I meant lack of consequences and nothing more. 

Edited November 28, 2016 by DivaT

[Gam2]

I don't understand how Sharon and Dylan have any standing in a custody suit against Nick. She is not the child's mother, Dylan is not the child's father and they have no legal right to visitation to this child. This is stupid.

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, valleycliffe said:

LOL  maybe not for those who don't like the sharon character but for those of us who do are happy...sharon has been dragged thru the mud for years and years while others who commit murder, rape etc. are all showered with affection....so, as a sharon fan, I AM ECSTATIC.

 

this is just MY OPINION, as are all my posts and no one has to agree to it.

Aside from crosby777, you'll find very little disagreement on how the character has been made Public Enemy #1 in the last ten years. But like DivaT, I'd have preferred a victory that didn't reward her for the same behavior that Nick got a pass on regarding hiding Summer's possible paternity.

That being said, there's no satisfying ending to this idiot story. No one truly "wins" here, but at least there's a light in the tunnel at last.

[peacheslatour]

15 minutes ago, Gam2 said:

I don't understand how Sharon and Dylan have any standing in a custody suit against Nick. She is not the child's mother, Dylan is not the child's father and they have no legal right to visitation to this child. This is stupid.

Victor is acting Like Dylan and Sharon are trying to get full custody. They're not, they just want visitation rights, which I don't think they should get. But they are aunt and uncle and in a normal (what am I saying?) family, they would see each other at family gatherings, be called Aunt  Sharon and Uncle Dylan and maybe baby sit occasionally. Easy peasy.

[Gam2]

That would be an easy solution except that Sharon lied about this child for a year! Once she found out that he was not her child, she should have told Dylan and Nick immediately. How she could watch Nick grieve for his dead child for so long is unimaginable to me. Had she given the baby to Nick as soon as she figured out who Christian was then they could have been aunt and uncle to him. She forfeited that possibility.

[miamama]

I'm so irritated by this hearing. I was willing to play along with no authorities involved. But now they want to pretend this makes a lick of sense legally? That kid is legally Dylan and Sharon's. CAN legally died. None of this changing parents nonsense has been legally addressed. What does it say on his birth certificate? There would have to be DNA proof before anything else were changed, especially custody. How will Nick get him a passport? 

Come on, show.

Just kill this trash story. Ugh.

5 more episodes.

[DivaT]

5 hours ago, miamama said:

I'm so irritated by this hearing. I was willing to play along with no authorities involved. But now they want to pretend this makes a lick of sense legally? That kid is legally Dylan and Sharon's. CAN legally died. None of this changing parents nonsense has been legally addressed. What does it say on his birth certificate? There would have to be DNA proof before anything else were changed, especially custody. How will Nick get him a passport? 

Come on, show.

Just kill this trash story. Ugh.

5 more episodes.

Correct. According to the law, Nick has kidnapped Sharon and Dylan's child. 

 

Edited to add: One of Pratt's worse habits has been ignoring  the proper beats in a story to focus on the beats he wants to play to force the story he wants to tell. Him doing that ruined every story he told.

Edited November 29, 2016 by DivaT

[MollyB]

21 hours ago, Gam2 said:

I don't understand how Sharon and Dylan have any standing in a custody suit against Nick. She is not the child's mother, Dylan is not the child's father and they have no legal right to visitation to this child. This is stupid.

My fervent hope is that DNA testing will show that Nick isn't the father and the child is declared an orphan and ward of the court.  Then the court would place him in a suitable home.  Victor and Shullen are not automatically 'the parents'* when the real parents are dead.  The court is supposed to determine custody. #freesulliedchristian

*and in no possible universe be considered 'suitable'

Edited November 29, 2016 by MollyB
rant

[miamama]

9 hours ago, MollyB said:

#freesulliedchristian

lol

[crowsworks]

Where  is the Pringles can buried?

[crowsworks]

So does Sully come down with Hammertoes or Hopeyes. Someone suggested that the doc swiped a stranger's can o' chips and they get the kid - good idea. If not - have Dylan scoop up Sully and rescue the little chip-off-the-old-block o'wood and head for somewhere saner than GC...Afganistan...Columbia...Alligator park.

[PatsyandEddie]

36 minutes ago, crowsworks said:

Where  is the Pringles can buried?

No idea. They had a memorial but not a funeral. 

[crowsworks]

6 hours ago, crowsworks said:

So does Sully come down with Hammertoes or Hopeyes. Someone suggested that the doc swiped a stranger's can o' chips and they get the kid - good idea. If not - have Dylan scoop up Sully and rescue the little chip-off-the-old-block o'wood and head for somewhere saner than GC...Afganistan...Columbia...Alligator park.

Gad, somebody else suggested Dylan take Sully to the safety and sanity (If questionable sanitation) of Afghanistan. Great minds..... 

Edited December 1, 2016 by crowsworks
lft out a word

[valleycliffe]

got these spoilers off of twitter..

nick, sharon and dylan call a truce to support christian.  leslie tells him this could be used against him.

nick feeds christian strawberries unaware that he is highly allergic to them.  he is upset cause he never bothered asking those questions.

wonder if he swells up or goes into a coma or croaks..

[bc1795]

I think it's wrong to wish for a child's death, even little Crully.  But if  you could make that child have sharp teeth with a taste for human flesh  -- yeah, I'd be into that.

[peacheslatour]

30 minutes ago, valleycliffe said:

got these spoilers off of twitter..

nick, sharon and dylan call a truce to support christian.  leslie tells him this could be used against him.

nick feeds christian strawberries unaware that he is highly allergic to them.  he is upset cause he never bothered asking those questions.

wonder if he swells up or goes into a coma or croaks..

Why the hell did Sharon not tell Nick about any and all allergies Cully has? Talk about negligent.

[ByTor]

9 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Why the hell did Sharon not tell Nick about any and all allergies Cully has? Talk about negligent.

I wonder if someone will say "that's weird, Adam is allergic to strawberries"...

[valleycliffe]

6 minutes ago, ByTor said:

I wonder if someone will say "that's weird, Adam is allergic to strawberries"...

probably not....

plt, who knows, maybe nick just won't listen to what sharon has to say...right now he just tells sharon to fuck off when he sees her.

Edited December 1, 2016 by valleycliffe
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[peacheslatour]

48 minutes ago, valleycliffe said:

probably not....

plt, who knows, maybe nick just won't listen to what sharon has to say...right now he just tells sharon to fuck off when he sees her.

Well, then he doesn't have a hairy baboon leg to stand on when the kid goes into convulsions.

[crosby777]

Quote

.right now he just tells sharon to fuck off when he sees her.

LOL that great toxic thing called shick

[Snaporaz]

Is it common to feed a one-year old strawberries?  They aren't even in season now, Nick, you dumbass.

[miamama]

This allergy thing was so pulled out of someone's ass. Nick spent plenty of time with Christian before he knew he was Christian, including living in the same house. Was he not told about this DEADLY ALLERGY then?

[miamama]

The first batch of spoilers for Sally's material (from SOD)

12/7, Traci's plan to reunite her siblings backfires

12/8, Jack is determined to punish Billy 

12/9, Dylan second-guesses himself

 

Week of Dec. 12

Victor reflects on his past

Victoria loses control

Devon pulls out the stops for Hilary

Phyllis turns over a new leaf 

 

The Jack one makes me very happy. I was scared after the Neil foundation shit the other day that he was going all kumbaya again. I also love that ButtBiscuit isn't the driver in any of these spoilers.

[PatsyandEddie]

small voice: I really like Jack's hair. Very European and hot. JMHO

[miamama]

1 hour ago, PatsyandEddie said:

small voice: I really like Jack's hair. Very European and hot. JMHO

Oh Patsy, you know I could never really dislike anything about PB. ;) Just nitpicking because show is so boring.

[PatsyandEddie]

Victor reflects on his past? Again? Really show? Fuck off. Again. 

[basiltherat]

Maybe Victor will reminisce about the time he beat Og the Caveman and growled, "Yuu Guuut Thhhat?!"

[Big Blue Plate]

22 hours ago, miamama said:

Victor reflects on his past

Oh, God... which Christmas movie are they ripping off this time?

(Unless it's Black Christmas.) 

[peacheslatour]

10 minutes ago, Big Blue Plate said:

Oh, God... which Christmas movie are they ripping off this time?

(Unless it's Black Christmas.) 

Bad Santa 2?

[miamama]

Here's the promo video for next week. Looks nice. (I'm being good and sharing the tweet as a link.)

https://twitter.com/YRInsider/status/804829480866889728

[Gam2]

Oh My God. Has Nicki ever had a life except being Victor's protector, apologizer (if there is such a word) and a drunkard? Give this woman a life of her own for once or retire her character. How many times can she forgive, apologize for and defend this subhuman husband? 

[babyhouseman]

7 hours ago, PatsyandEddie said:

Victor reflects on his past? Again? Really show? Fuck off. Again. 

 

 

3 hours ago, Big Blue Plate said:

Oh, God... which Christmas movie are they ripping off this time?

(Unless it's Black Christmas.) 

Maybe it'll be Home Alone with his grandchildren tormenting him with booby traps. 

[Big Blue Plate]

The problem with Victor reflecting on his life is the we're the only ones who learn anything from it.

[MollyB]

15 hours ago, Gam2 said:

apologizer (if there is such a word)

enabler?

[pearlite]

43 minutes ago, MollyB said:

enabler?

apologist?

[Shicklove1]

On 2016-12-01 at 0:48 PM, bc1795 said:

I think it's wrong to wish for a child's death, even little Crully.  But if  you could make that child have sharp teeth with a taste for human flesh  -- yeah, I'd be into that.

Oh still laughing over here best Laugh I've had all day thanks for that.  By the way I could buy into that too if he goes after Diclolous first.

[jewel21]

Are there any spoilers about Dylan being recast or are we just doing away with the character completely?

[valleycliffe]

11 minutes ago, jewel21 said:

Are there any spoilers about Dylan being recast or are we just doing away with the character completely?

i was perusing a different board and someone there said he had seen a spoiler that dylan was being recast..however, other posters said they go all over the place and had not seen anything about it.