Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[crazy8s]

Seems she has posted about this same "revelation" many times. Not long ago she was weary to the bone or whatever and then remembered her jesus.

But this whining seems to be a lot of their choices have consequences. They decided her womb (🤮) would be open to as many children as possible, they chose "full time" printing ministry, but then had to add travel to grift for food, clothing, rv repairs and to pay the bills . Also Jill needs to travel for the attention she gets being "on stage"

Jill also mentioned recently that she has to "travel more frequently for my work". So are you a stay at home mom or a mom who travels for "work"?  Her work travels, as we all know are vacations she pays for.

 

[Abmis]

For the first time ever I'm in agreement with Jill about something.  She sure does wear many hats AKA baseball bonnets.

[AstridM]

4 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Name the last book you read Jill.   

Yeah that was when I tuned out.

Same! At exactly that same point. She doesn’t read books.

Let me guess - most of the pictures that accompanied this rant were of HER 🤦‍♀️

[emma675]

12 minutes ago, AstridM said:

Let me guess - most of the pictures that accompanied this rant were of HER 🤦‍♀️

I took a peek at the original post and yes, every slide was a pic of her (and one was of her and Dave kissing, ick). And almost all of them looked heavily filtered. Vanity, thy name is Jill.

[CalicoKitty]

So, let me get this straight.  She posted a Woe Is Me post about how she doesn't want to be the center of attention so she will be the center of discussion.  If you are so overwhelmed and busy, and you don't want attention, STOP POSTING and making your self the focal point of everyone's life and every occasion.  Stop taking photos in church, stop out-singing everyone else in the choir.  Stop competing with your daughters.  Stop presenting yourself as the paragon of virtue.  Humility and tact are not Jill's long suits.  

 

[Salacious Kitty]

5 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Name the last book you read Jill.   

Yeah that was when I tuned out.

She reads Amish romance novels. I bet she counts those. 😂

[oliviabenson]

she writes in her Bible like it's her journal lol

[Salacious Kitty]

Jill's sort of SIL Betsy Foster Catalin posted earlier today that Amy has been hospitalized for 8 days and isn't showing improvement. I wonder if Jill is still there. Nurie is coming for Christmas, so she'll have to leave soon, if she hasn't already. 

Because for Jill, hosting Christmas is more important than her very sick sister.  Nurie should stay home and go to the Kellers. 

[Minivanessa]

On 12/20/2024 at 11:36 AM, CalicoKitty said:

 Humility and tact are not Jill's long suits.  

Humility and tact were left out of Jill's deck of cards entirely.

[oliviabenson]

I think Jill was told to not post about amy or Jill does not care. it's Jilla favorite time of the year: Xmas aka 90% of gifts are for Jill and everyone fawns even more over her.

Nurie is probably already at Jill's in the upstairs attic. 

who's is pregnant and who's engaged? that's all Jill gonna post besides getting 900 gifts for herself!

[Salacious Kitty]

I agree that Jill was told not to post about Amy. But Betsy is posting, so we're up to date on her condition. 

[Salacious Kitty]

Amy update. It was mentioned in a prior post that she's also suffering from bedsores. 

 

[farmgal4]

13 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I agree that Jill was told not to post about Amy. But Betsy is posting, so we're up to date on her condition. 

As of 15 minutes ago, doctors are wanting to intubate Amy.  She truly does need our prayers.

[Jeanne222]

I'm confused. Why isn't this called The Rodriguez Family?

I never read about Duggers or Bates here!

[AstridM]

 

I'm confused. Why isn't this called The Rodriguez Family?

I never read about Duggers or Bates here!

Because the Bates and the Duggars have their own threads?

[merylinkid]

14 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I agree that Jill was told not to post about Amy. But Betsy is posting, so we're up to date on her condition. 

Because apparently Betsy can be trusted to post without making it all about her and her heroic efforts in caring for her sister.   The rest of the family must be grateful they only have to deal with Jill in small doses.

[Minivanessa]

1 hour ago, farmgal4 said:

As of 15 minutes ago, doctors are wanting to intubate Amy.  She truly does need our prayers.

I saw that post on the public "Praying for Amy Foster" FB page. Here's a quote: 

Quote

Amy’s oxygen levels stayed high all night once she got to sleep! The X-ray this morning showed her left lung in worse condition this morning. She needs her congestion to loosten, thin , and cough it out. She gets scared to cough thinking the mucus will get stuck and block her airway. She is fighting feelings that it is unending or just getting worse. They are still wanting to intubate her and put her on a ventilator. Saying it’s better to do it now in a controlled environment instead of doing it because of an emergency happening.

It really does seem grim. I don't think that doctors would want to put a patient on a ventilator without good reason.

[ranchgirl]

Poor Amy.  Thanks for bringing that over here so I could read it.  It doesn't sound good.  I do think Jill will post about it once she can write how much she is helping Amy or the family in some way.  

In her last post, this is the part that got to me.  She wrote: "Even when I am in the midst of a good day, I start to think it is MY goodness that deserves praise, and that defeats me because I know it is my ugly pride rearing it's ugly head again. Then, I wonder what was the point of trying so hard that day ...."  

First off, it still hasn't occurred to her that perhaps everything she does isn't out of "goodness" and she never even says that perhaps everything she does isn't good.  Second off: if she can't think that she is good for all she does then she doesn't want to do it.   Her poor children.  

Edited Sunday at 06:10 PM by ranchgirl

[oliviabenson]

amy is alive because of modern medicine not because of praying.

[AstridM]

14 minutes ago, oliviabenson said:

amy is alive because of modern medicine not because of praying.

R’Amen.

[Salacious Kitty]

Looks like Jill and fam are home. She posted a picture of them at their church this morning. Phillip was there. No sign of Teidi. Sofia is also missing for some reason. 

Edited Sunday at 09:04 PM by Salacious Kitty

[Notabug]

5 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Because apparently Betsy can be trusted to post without making it all about her and her heroic efforts in caring for her sister.   The rest of the family must be grateful they only have to deal with Jill in small doses.

Betsy also doesn't seem to look at Amy's illness as a moneymaking opportunity for her.  Meanwhile, Jill and family commandeered the ICU waiting area in the aftermath of Amy's accident years ago and Jill proceeded to arrange a baby shower for herself (expecting #11 or 12 at the time) complete with a large jar in the waiting room begging for monetary donations for a new stroller for Jill.  Apparently because her sister, newly quadriplegic with 6 young children of her own, had no financial needs whatsoever.  For Jill to accept even a nickel for herself in that circumstance, knowing that her sister would need major renovations to her home, a van, a wheelchair, childcare and literally dozens of other things in the immediate future; is just disgusting.

After Jill kept posting daily with details about Amy's health and the response of various family members, including Amy's little children, to her status; Amy, or, more likely her husband, told Jill to back off, they wanted her to post NOTHING about Amy or their family without advance permission.  Jill, of course, let that little nugget slip out, probably in hopes that her 'fans' would come to her defense.  

Then, JIll's mom had a disabling stroke and there was Jilly, dragging all her kids up and down the halls of a major university medical center in the midst of a pandemic; describing and even showing photos of her mother as she struggled with the aftereffects of her stroke.  She then set up a Go Fund Me, ostensibly for expenses for her parents since her father wasn't able to work while her mom was in a hospital far from home.  Jill claimed her father didn't have any idea how to set it up, he is not an internet expert like she is.  We can't know, but I expect that every nickel from that fundraiser went directly into Jill's bank account and her parents saw little, if any, of it.  Jill undoubtedly justified it as needing money for gas to drive from Wooster to Columbus to visit her mother and food and manicures and cheap hair extensions so she could look good for mama.

I expect that, this time, Amy and her husband reminded Jill of their boundaries and so she didn't hang around as there is no hope she can profit at this point.  

5 hours ago, Minivanessa said:

I saw that post on the public "Praying for Amy Foster" FB page. Here's a quote: 

It really does seem grim. I don't think that doctors would want to put a patient on a ventilator without good reason.

Amy undoubtedly has weakened muscles in her chest affected by her quadriparesis and cannot inhale deeply enough to aerate her lungs or prevent them from filling with fluid.  As she keeps trying and becomes exhausted, it only gets worse.  At some point, her body may give out and she could stop breathing altogether which is what the doctors are trying to prevent.  If she is intubated, they will also be able to manually suction the mucus which is accumulating in her lungs which would help her immune system in fighting the infection as well as improve her ability to move air in and out of her lungs to oxygenate better.

[Salacious Kitty]

I've found the Praying for Any Foster FB updates by Kevin to be the most timely and thorough. 

Hope she beats this. 

[oliviabenson]

amys poor kids are not having a good Christmas. they are worried sick about their mom. while Jill doesn't give a flying fig and I do not think Jill even calls or sent pizza for the kids.

 

[BradandJanet]

I'm really surprised Jill hasn't shown up in West Virginia yet. She has no reason to go home except to celebrate Christmas. I think Nurie, Kaylee, and the older girls could handle Christmas for the younger children. Nathan, Jonathan, Sam, and Tim could arrange a decent meal for everyone too. Was Jill told not to come right away? 

 

ETA: I didn't see the previous posts before posting. I guess it is possible Jill was told to stay home. Of course, Christmas is a gift-giving holiday, so my cynical self thinks Jill would hate to miss opening her gifts on Christmas Day.  

 

Edited Yest. at 12:34 AM by BradandJanet

[andromeda331]

Poor Amy and her poor husband and kids.

[Lady Edith]

I’m so sorry that Amy is going through this. I truly hope she can heal. And as far as Jill goes, she is just abysmal. While her sister is fighting for her life in the hospital, Jill is in NC having a wonderful time. If I were in her shoes I would be on the first plane to West Virginia.  DBD can drive the dirt buggy back to Ohio with the Rodlets.  What an utter sack of monkey dung. 

[CalicoKitty]

22 minutes ago, Lady Edith said:

I’m so sorry that Amy is going through this. I truly hope she can heal. And as far as Jill goes, she is just abysmal. While her sister is fighting for her life in the hospital, Jill is in NC having a wonderful time. If I were in her shoes I would be on the first plane to West Virginia.  DBD can drive the dirt buggy back to Ohio with the Rodlets.  What an utter sack of monkey dung. 

I wonder what the dynamic between the sisters was when they were growing up.  I wonder if Jill was the boss and bully and not liked much as an adult.  I wonder if she has always been "better than everyone else".  That's hard to live with.  I know first hand--my mother thought she was superior to everyone else, including her family.  Amy's family is probably happy that Jill is not there to "take charge".

[Salacious Kitty]

Kevin posted another update this evening.

 

[libgirl2]

 

Kevin posted another update this evening.

 

Of course I would pray for a miracle but I would pray that said miracle could also be through the doctors and those giving her care. 

[Albanyguy]

 

I wonder what the dynamic between the sisters was when they were growing up.  I wonder if Jill was the boss and bully and not liked much as an adult.  I wonder if she has always been "better than everyone else".  That's hard to live with.  I know first hand--my mother thought she was superior to everyone else, including her family.  Amy's family is probably happy that Jill is not there to "take charge".

Nailed it! She didn’t suddenly become a raging narcissist the day she met Dave or the day she found Jesus.

[merylinkid]

 

Of course I would pray for a miracle but I would pray that said miracle could also be through the doctors and those giving her care. 

God can send good doctors with the knowledge to save her.  

 

She then set up a Go Fund Me, ostensibly for expenses for her parents since her father wasn't able to work while her mom was in a hospital far from home.  Jill claimed her father didn't have any idea how to set it up, he is not an internet expert like she is. 

Oh it was more obvious than that.   She said "oh if you don't want to use Go Fund Me, you can send money directly to me."   Implying that the money would then be passed on to her parents but it was fairly obvious not a cent would be passed along.

[ALittleShelfish]

17 hours ago, Notabug said:

Betsy also doesn't seem to look at Amy's illness as a moneymaking opportunity for her.  Meanwhile, Jill and family commandeered the ICU waiting area in the aftermath of Amy's accident years ago and Jill proceeded to arrange a baby shower for herself (expecting #11 or 12 at the time) complete with a large jar in the waiting room begging for monetary donations for a new stroller for Jill.  Apparently because her sister, newly quadriplegic with 6 young children of her own, had no financial needs whatsoever.  For Jill to accept even a nickel for herself in that circumstance, knowing that her sister would need major renovations to her home, a van, a wheelchair, childcare and literally dozens of other things in the immediate future; is just disgusting.

I was literally applauding while reading this.  She cannot miss a single grifting moment, no matter how inappropriate.  

Jill, the phrase is "There is a time and place for everything" not "Every thing is the right time and place!"

Just when I feel Jill's shittiness has plateaued, we're reminded of how there is no limit to how far low she will go.

[Notabug]

4 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

Of course I would pray for a miracle but I would pray that said miracle could also be through the doctors and those giving her care. 

I think praying that the doctors and other caregivers are able to do their best work for her is really the way to go.  God doesn't pick and choose miracles for people based on how often or how hard they ask for them.  Yeah, she might miraculously improve without intervention, but it is far more likely she will improve WITH medical intervention. Praying that her lung improves and the mucus is removed is great, but works better in conjunction with medical professionals doing a bronchoscopy to make it happen.

Edited 9 hours ago by Notabug

[Jeanne222]

On 12/22/2024 at 9:40 AM, AstridM said:

Because the Bates and the Duggars have their own threads?

Yes and this should be titled the Rodriguez topic!

[Salacious Kitty]

1 hour ago, Jeanne222 said:

Yes and this should be titled the Rodriguez topic!

It didn't start that way though. They were Duggar friends who attended several of the Duggar weddings. Jill has a picture of Jim Bob in her bedroom. 

The thread just became theirs over time. The Bateses didn't have a forum when this one began. 

[libgirl2]

11 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

It didn't start that way though. They were Duggar friends who attended several of the Duggar weddings. Jill has a picture of Jim Bob in her bedroom. 

The thread just became theirs over time. The Bateses didn't have a forum when this one began. 

The Rods have a tendency to "take over" threads because they (well, mostly Jill) are just so "amazing".

[mythoughtis]

1 hour ago, Jeanne222 said:

Yes and this should be titled the Rodriguez topic!

Or people who wish to  could post here about other Duggar and Bates friends that have appeared on the show. The Caldwells or Josiah’s in-laws, or all the ‘experts’ that taught the Duggars how to install tile etc.   There's  no rule that says people can’t post about other people than Jill.  

[Notabug]

1 minute ago, libgirl2 said:

The Rods have a tendency to "take over" threads because they (well, mostly Jill) are just so "amazing".

Also, as time passes, anyone who appeared on the Duggars' show has faded into the background and we don't know what they're doing and have nothing to talk about.  Meanwhile, Jill Rod is the gift that keeps on giving; the woman cannot stop posting all the details of her life online and inviting us to comment on them.

1 minute ago, mythoughtis said:

Or people who wish to  could post here about other Duggar and Bates friends that have appeared on the show. The Caldwells or Josiah’s in-laws, or all the ‘experts’ that taught the Duggars how to install tile etc.   There's  no rule that says people can’t post about other people than Jill.  

Except none of them are online giving out detailed info like Jill does.

[LilJen]

On 12/14/2024 at 12:21 AM, CalicoKitty said:

There is no way that getting a manicure is part of any ministry.

Don't you know that Jill's ministry is HANDS ON?? 🤣

On 12/18/2024 at 12:49 PM, Notabug said:

Yep, I've got a couple friends who are Catholic priests, serving in parishes.  They are paid as independent contractors by the Diocese, not as employees.  So, they get the full check and are expected to put aside for their income taxes, federal, state and local, and pay them out of pocket.  At the end of the year, they get a 1099 instead of a W2.

The average Catholic priest in the US makes around $37,000 a year.  If they live in the church rectory, BTW, they pay rent for that, too. If they got free housing, the value would be added to their 1099 as income.

Wow. That's pretty low of the Catholic Church/each Diocese. Don't the priests perform at the behest of the church/diocese? They should be classified as W2 employees. $37K/year on self-employment income (you pay 2x the SS/Medicare taxes, or maybe it's different if you're a church employee? except the church says you aren't, you're an "independent contractor") is ROUGH. There are definitely many reasons the Catholics can't get priests, and this is one!

Sorry for the thread drift.

[libgirl2]

5 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Also, as time passes, anyone who appeared on the Duggars' show has faded into the background and we don't know what they're doing and have nothing to talk about.  Meanwhile, Jill Rod is the gift that keeps on giving; the woman cannot stop posting all the details of her life online and inviting us to comment on them.

Except none of them are online giving out detailed info like Jill does.

That is exactly it, there is almost all the time something going on. 

[Notabug]

7 minutes ago, LilJen said:

Don't you know that Jill's ministry is HANDS ON?? 🤣

Wow. That's pretty low of the Catholic Church/each Diocese. Don't the priests perform at the behest of the church/diocese? They should be classified as W2 employees. $37K/year on self-employment income (you pay 2x the SS/Medicare taxes, or maybe it's different if you're a church employee? except the church says you aren't, you're an "independent contractor") is ROUGH. There are definitely many reasons the Catholics can't get priests, and this is one!

Sorry for the thread drift.

I really don't know the ins and outs of how they're paid and the tax implications.  A local diocesan priest shared this info with me probably about 10 years ago.  Other dioceses or employers of priests may do things differently.

Most diocesan priests do NOT take a vow of poverty, BTW.  The former pastor of my parish retired and he and his brother, also a retired priest, bought a gorgeous condo in a new development and travelled the world.  They were the only children in their family and they invested their inheritance after their parents died and did pretty well.

[ginger90]

3 hours ago, Notabug said:

but works better in conjunction with medical professionals doing a bronchoscopy to make it happen.

She was scheduled for 1p today. No update yet.

[libgirl2]

2 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Most diocesan priests do NOT take a vow of poverty, BTW.  The former pastor of my parish retired and he and his brother, also a retired priest, bought a gorgeous condo in a new development and travelled the world.  They were the only children in their family and they invested their inheritance after their parents died and did pretty well.

Yes, I was going to say it depends on the order. 

Just now, ginger90 said:

She was scheduled for 1p today. No update yet.

I read it was cancelled. She is doing a bit better and decided to try to clear it on  her own. Her choice, which is ironic all things considered. 

[Salacious Kitty]

4 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Yes, I was going to say it depends on the order. 

I read it was cancelled. She is doing a bit better and decided to try to clear it on  her own. Her choice, which is ironic all things considered. 

Yeah, Kevin posted that the procedure was cancelled. Glad to hear she's showing some improvement. 

[Notabug]

50 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Yes, I was going to say it depends on the order. 

I read it was cancelled. She is doing a bit better and decided to try to clear it on  her own. Her choice, which is ironic all things considered. 

The procedure was cancelled because Amy refused it and not because the doctors thought she'd be ok without it?  Big sigh..... Um, ok.  Cannot tell you how difficult it is to care for patients who waiver back and forth between traditional medicine and unorthodox 'treatments' such as 'God told me I didn't need it'.

[libgirl2]

25 minutes ago, Notabug said:

The procedure was cancelled because Amy refused it and not because the doctors thought she'd be ok without it?  Big sigh..... Um, ok.  Cannot tell you how difficult it is to care for patients who waiver back and forth between traditional medicine and unorthodox 'treatments' such as 'God told me I didn't need it'.

Yes, she wants to do it on her own (well with God's help). I understand being afraid about the procedure but I hope she doesn't regret it. 

[Salacious Kitty]

Kevin's latest post made it clear that she was afraid of never getting off the vent. I don't know why the scope procedure would hinder her progress in healing. 

[Notabug]

25 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Kevin's latest post made it clear that she was afraid of never getting off the vent. I don't know why the scope procedure would hinder her progress in healing. 

If her lungs continue to deteriorate and she needs to be intubated urgently, it will also be tough to get her off the vent.  Probably more likely to need long term ventilator support in that situation than after a bronchoscopy under controlled conditions.  

This says to me that Amy's pulmonary status must be very precarious and this isn't the first time she's been told that she may need a ventilator for the long haul.  If not this time, then maybe the next.

The steadfastness of these folks in insisting God will step in and heal them while refusing to allow medical professionals to help that to happen is really pretty impressive.  And frustrating.

[farmgal4]

1 minute ago, Notabug said:

If her lungs continue to deteriorate and she needs to be intubated urgently, it will also be tough to get her off the vent.  Probably more likely to need long term ventilator support in that situation than after a bronchoscopy under controlled conditions.  

This says to me that Amy's pulmonary status must be very precarious and this isn't the first time she's been told that she may need a ventilator for the long haul.  If not this time, then maybe the next.

The steadfastness of these folks in insisting God will step in and heal them while refusing to allow medical professionals to help that to happen is really pretty impressive.  And frustrating.

Is Amy also implying that she would rather die than live the rest of her life on a vent?  That’s kind of the feeling I’m getting but I could be wrong.