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3 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Sutton would do well to leave as well. The pile up on her next season without Garcelle to back her up could be really ugly.

I could be wrong but I think if Sutton wanted to leave she would, even before this year.  She's started off rocky as a friend and has been the recipient of some particularly nasty bullying (I'm mostly looking at you Erika) over the seasons.   She also doesn't seem to have a problem throwing it back, even if she's not too great at doing so.  

I've never been sure of exactly why she wants to be part of this group so much but she does.   Maybe the fame is worth the trade off for her?  Maybe doors have opened for her that would not have opened before RHOBH?   But more likely, similar to all the famewhores on the RH shows, she enjoys the fame of being part of the BRAVO universe and is willing to put up with whatever to be part of it. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, IntrovertRed said:

I wonder if Sutton will leave next and also if Sutton was given a heads up. Who will Sutton have on her side now besides Jennifer Tilly as a "friend of"?  I'm so not interested in watching a weekly takedown of Sutton, so I'm not sure I'll be watching.  Maybe if Dorit left, because that would be the only guarantee I'll continue watching. But we all know she needs the money, so that ain't gonna happen.  

 

Yeah. I feel the same. At first I wasn't going to watch this season due to Kyle and Erika. I don't like either of them and wish they were off the show. This season Dorit has irritated me as much as Kyle and Erika. Garcelle and Sutton are the only ones I like, and I can't see Sutton lasting long without Garcelle unless maybe Jennifer becomes a full time cast member. 

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3 minutes ago, Sweet-tea said:

Yeah. I feel the same. At first I wasn't going to watch this season due to Kyle and Erika. I don't like either of them and wish they were off the show. This season Dorit has irritated me as much as Kyle and Erika. Garcelle and Sutton are the only ones I like, and I can't see Sutton lasting long without Garcelle unless maybe Jennifer becomes a full time cast member. 

She did an interview hinting around that that would be her ultimate goal to be a full housewife .. that she would like to come back and would like more camera time 

 

 

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9 hours ago, twilightzone said:

I doubt her leaving has anything to do with the other women.  Garcelle has always been able to handle herself just fine.  Remember she only agree to do RHOBH so she could be closer to home and not travel as much.  But now it's time to move on.  And she's leaving at the Top of her game.  She never destroyed her career the way Rinna did.  And we all know Dorit, Kyle, Erika need the BRAVO paycheck.

Although Dorit and Erika need the Bravo money, Kyle will get half her husband's $100 million in a divorce settlement (there is no prenup, and they are married for 27 years), on top of real estate (the couple owns multiple properties), etc., and she has her own money from Bravo, other projects, promotions. 

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10 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

 Sutton would do well to leave as well. The pile up on her next season without Garcelle to back her up could be really ugly.

I'm kind of hoping she'll leave too because of how they'll treat her (and she'll be the only one on her side at that point). I doubt Jennifer will become a full-time HW. She doesn't need to, even though I like her presence on this show.

6 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

I could be wrong but I think if Sutton wanted to leave she would, even before this year.  She's started off rocky as a friend and has been the recipient of some particularly nasty bullying (I'm mostly looking at you Erika) over the seasons.   She also doesn't seem to have a problem throwing it back, even if she's not too great at doing so.  

I've never been sure of exactly why she wants to be part of this group so much but she does.   Maybe the fame is worth the trade off for her?  Maybe doors have opened for her that would not have opened before RHOBH?   But more likely, similar to all the famewhores on the RH shows, she enjoys the fame of being part of the BRAVO universe and is willing to put up with whatever to be part of it. 

 

 

This makes a ton of sense, even though, if I were her, I'd cut my losses and leave too.

6 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

She did an interview hinting around that that would be her ultimate goal to be a full housewife .. that she would like to come back and would like more camera time 

 

 

Scratch what I just wrote about Jennifer not needing to become a full-time HW. 😂

Maybe she would do it for Sutton so that Sutton has another ally. 

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14 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

She's started off rocky as a friend and has been the recipient of some particularly nasty bullying (I'm mostly looking at you Erika) over the seasons.   She also doesn't seem to have a problem throwing it back, even if she's not too great at doing so.  

See that is the thing about Sutton, it is only when it starts to get to be a gang up on her does she back down and apologize for saying something nasty to someone but she does it as a victim never the aggressor.  Sutton does not understand that sometimes she is the problem, she does not take responsibility for her role, only for saying the wrong thing. 

You'd think being raised by a narcissist Sutton would be a people pleaser but nope, she is the shit starter and will not admit it. 

As the great Kandi Buruss would say, don't start nothin' there won't be nothin'.

I still like sutton more than most of the other women.

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46 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

See that is the thing about Sutton, it is only when it starts to get to be a gang up on her does she back down and apologize for saying something nasty to someone but she does it as a victim never the aggressor.  Sutton does not understand that sometimes she is the problem, she does not take responsibility for her role, only for saying the wrong thing. 

You'd think being raised by a narcissist Sutton would be a people pleaser but nope, she is the shit starter and will not admit it. 

As the great Kandi Buruss would say, don't start nothin' there won't be nothin'.

I still like sutton more than most of the other women.

Dorit literally started this shit and Erika was living offf widows and orphans and saying they were stealing from her .. who started what now? 

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28 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Dorit literally started this shit and Erika was living offf widows and orphans and saying they were stealing from her .. who started what now? 

In general Sutton snaps back at whatever is hurled at her, like at the party at Dorit's house, she didn't have to take the comment back to Sutton is a booze hound but instead of just saying yes this is an adult beverage she snapped back with calling Dorit a bitch, fueling a fire that Erika and Dorit love to battle. Sutton has to learn to not to react and start her own fire.

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19 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

In general Sutton snaps back at whatever is hurled at her, like at the party at Dorit's house, she didn't have to take the comment back to Sutton is a booze hound but instead of just saying yes this is an adult beverage she snapped back with calling Dorit a bitch, fueling a fire that Erika and Dorit love to battle. Sutton has to learn to not to react and start her own fire.

So wait you’re excusing the e fact Dorit was trying to weaponize a drinking issue AGAIN ( when she could have kept her opnion and mouth shut) and the poke poke poke that Dorit had been doing repeatedly before this and jumping at Sutton drinking even water and making it suttons  fault for not just taking it? So Dorit can say all the shit she wants it’s Sutton that should just shut up and take it or she’s in the wrong? 

in the don’t start none won’t be none Dort is the instigator here .. 

you can’t fault Sutton for finally saying no no more 

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54 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

you can’t fault Sutton for finally saying no no more 

It's the way she does it.  Sutton doesn't simply respond, she lashes out in what I consider immature, ineffective ways,  for example, "Your leather pants are ugly!" "You are a bitch." "I hate these f***ing bitches."  "My wallet is bigger."  "Name 'em."  Mocking Erika's impression of her accent over and over and loud.  Running away to get someone to come after her...  etc. 

The fact that she spent a good amount of time trying to get this group in the Sisterhood Pact cracks me up because often she has disregarded it as much as anyone else, if not more.  

 

 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

It's the way she does it.  Sutton doesn't simply respond, she lashes out in what I consider immature, ineffective ways,  for example, "Your leather pants are ugly!" "You are a bitch." "I hate these f***ing bitches."  "My wallet is bigger."  "Name 'em."  Mocking Erika's impression of her accent over and over and loud.  Running away to get someone to come after her...  etc. 

The fact that she spent a good amount of time trying to get this group in the Sisterhood Pact cracks me up because often she has disregarded it as much as anyone else, if not more.  

 

 

 

 

Ok so wait . Now it’s the way she defends herself .. you literally are batting away what she’s defending herself for because she doesn’t do it the way you like while ignoring the person who is being antagonistic .. she gets ganged up on and walks away and does something we all do vent but she isnt allowed that? forget that they just called her everything but her christian name its Sutton that is in the wrong?

 

that makes no sense to me 

You don’t tell the person that’s being poked at no your doing that wrong when the one coming for them is being patted on the back like she’s fighting fair it’s BS

Dorit poked Sutton responded .. this is all on Dorit she’s not the victim 

Now of Sutton was coming for Dorit for no reason I’d be like you got something but now the way she defends herself is being scrutinized while Dorits whole thing is brushed away like sutton just did these things out of thin air just shows a bias 

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1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

You don’t tell the person that’s being poked at no your doing that wrong when the one coming for them is being patted on the back like she’s fighting fair it’s BS

 

I don't think my post was patting anyone on the back, or defending Dorit and Erika.  At least that wasn't my intention  Sutton can be reactionary and ridiculous  but it rarely lands because Erika et. al. don't really care. Dorito is a self-absorbed dumb dumb and I've said before, I think Erika is a straight up sociopath.  

For example, Garcelle has been on the receiving end of their attacks but I thought she handled it appropriately, not lashing out but letting them know they fucked with the wrong person without making herself a victim.   It's a bummer to me that this show is losing one of the adults in the room with her departure.  

 

 

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So again it just feels like excuses for Dorit and Erika are being made while throwing Sutton under the bus .. 

by a large margin BOTH Erika and Dorit have done and said more fucked up mean shit and have been MORE emotional then Sutton but it’s not their behavior being corrected or monitoring or even called out.. there is a bias and I get it we all like and dislike people for different reasons

.. just call a spade a spade and call it what it is .. they dont care how Dorit and Erika act or defend themselves  just Sutton .. Erika and Dorit can say vile shit and call Sutton every name but her Christin one and be emotional cuss and everything and it’s ok .. Sutton tho must be demure and passive and take it .. and because she’s not she’s in the wrong .. 

 

I’m just seeing a weird wonky yard stick everyone else gets but when it’s Sutton NOPE she doesn’t get the same grace 

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Sutton made a good point when talking to Boz, how Dorit and Kyle have said and done worse to Ericka about her marriage etc but they’re quick to accept an apology and move on. But when it’s Sutton, it’s never forgiven. It’s brought up over and over again. 
 

I don’t even know why Dorit is so mad at Sutton. How did Sutton kick Dorit while she was down? Dorit is the one that kept pushing the ‘alcoholic Sutton’ narrative. 

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24 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

I don’t even know why Dorit is so mad at Sutton.

Lol, good point.  I can't even remember how this started.  But then, Dorito is pretty dumb.  She started this season coming for Kyle and ended it coming for Sutton.   I guess having Boz being willing to listen to her endless boring monologues wasn't enough.  

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1 hour ago, Pi237 said:

Sutton made a good point when talking to Boz, how Dorit and Kyle have said and done worse to Ericka about her marriage etc but they’re quick to accept an apology and move on. But when it’s Sutton, it’s never forgiven. It’s brought up over and over again. 
 

I don’t even know why Dorit is so mad at Sutton. How did Sutton kick Dorit while she was down? Dorit is the one that kept pushing the ‘alcoholic Sutton’ narrative. 

I was glad she mentioned this stuff to Boz, but I feel reasonably confident that Boz watched the show in advance of coming onto it. 

She can like who she wants to because they all do that. I don't know why she feels the need to hear Sutton's side because it doesn't read as being done in "good faith."

Don't get me wrong. I do like that Boz corrected Dorit about Sutton's apology and that she needs to take accountability for her part in their fight.

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That's a classy statement on Boz's part. 👏🏻

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10 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

You get the only reason Garcelle didn’t is because she was afraid of being labeled the angry black woman right? She could t have those emotions cause she would have been called angry 

Hell the fans would have loved to label her that and she wasn’t giving it. She even said as much 

Was that her only reason?  If so it helped her out.  I happen to think she was just smarter than the others, which Sutton is not.  These aren't moms fighting at the schoolyard gate - if that were true I'd be more on Sutton's side.  But she comes on a show which is known for bullying narcissists, and she doesn't know how to play.  Yet she doesn't admit that and go on with her big walleted life; she sticks around for more, and refuses to learn the rules of the game.  I'm tired of her.

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9 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I was glad she mentioned this stuff to Boz, but I feel reasonably confident that Boz watched the show in advance of coming onto it. 

She can like who she wants to because they all do that. I don't know why she feels the need to hear Sutton's side because it doesn't read as being done in "good faith."

Don't get me wrong. I do like that Boz corrected Dorit about Sutton's apology and that she needs to take accountability for her part in their fight.

That's a classy statement on Boz's part. 👏🏻

It was indeed classy. And we now see she can write a great public statement! (As a marketing comms professional, I mean that as a high compliment… no snark!)

I know I’ve said this, but I REALLY wanted to like and root for Boz this season. She reminds me of a VP I used to work with—bold, funny, tells it like it is (or at least I THOUGHT she would…), successful. I don’t DISLIKE her, but cheering for Dorit’s mouthpiece, whose solo storyline was about a maybe-baby with a guy who hadn’t even said “I love you” yet, was too much to ask for me. If she’s on next season, I hope they show more of her professional life and her relationship with daughter.

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1 hour ago, ivygirl said:

It was indeed classy. And we now see she can write a great public statement! (As a marketing comms professional, I mean that as a high compliment… no snark!)

I know I’ve said this, but I REALLY wanted to like and root for Boz this season. She reminds me of a VP I used to work with—bold, funny, tells it like it is (or at least I THOUGHT she would…), successful. I don’t DISLIKE her, but cheering for Dorit’s mouthpiece, whose solo storyline was about a maybe-baby with a guy who hadn’t even said “I love you” yet, was too much to ask for me. If she’s on next season, I hope they show more of her professional life and her relationship with daughter.

Boz's daughter, Lael, is such an intelligent, self aware, and thoughtful teenager. 

Boz did a fantastic job in raising her as a single mother (who lost her husband to cancer).

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20 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

It's the way she does it.  Sutton doesn't simply respond, she lashes out in what I consider immature, ineffective ways,  for example, "Your leather pants are ugly!" "You are a bitch." "I hate these f***ing bitches."  "My wallet is bigger."  "Name 'em."  Mocking Erika's impression of her accent over and over and loud.  Running away to get someone to come after her...  etc. 

The fact that she spent a good amount of time trying to get this group in the Sisterhood Pact cracks me up because often she has disregarded it as much as anyone else, if not more.  

 

 

 

 

Sutton is so obnoxious that nobody cares of Dorit and Erika go after her. Let me say, I can’t stand Dorit or Erika. That scene at the table when Sutton reacted to them making fun of her accent was a combo of embarrassment and funny because she was making herself look like a complete asshole.

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9 minutes ago, Chatty Cake said:

Sutton is so obnoxious that nobody cares of Dorit and Erika go after her. Let me say, I can’t stand Dorit or Erika. That scene at the table when Sutton reacted to them making fun of her accent was a combo of embarrassment and funny because she was making herself look like a complete asshole.

And i feel like this is WHY these shows are dying .. you guys dont care that Erika who lived off widows and orphans or Dorit who doesn't care as long as it isnt her kid have this right to go after anyone just cause they think someone is obnoxious ..

 

you guys reward bad behavior cause its against someone you dont like while ignoring the HORRIBLE things those same people do with a hand wave of well she was obnoxious so she deserves it .. but these 2 harpies dont?

they get embolden by th3e fans ... 

they again have no moral high ground to try to hold anyone accountable because they arnt held accountable themselves

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21 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

So wait you’re excusing the e fact Dorit was trying to weaponize a drinking issue AGAIN ( when she could have kept her opnion and mouth shut) and the poke poke poke that Dorit had been doing repeatedly before this and jumping at Sutton drinking even water and making it suttons  fault for not just taking it? So Dorit can say all the shit she wants it’s Sutton that should just shut up and take it or she’s in the wrong? 

in the don’t start none won’t be none Dort is the instigator here .. 

you can’t fault Sutton for finally saying no no more 

I agree that Sutton has been continuously poked by Dorit and Erika, they get a reaction out of her so they keep doing it, Sutton could squash the poking by ignoring or really measuring her words to be more effective and not incendiary, she gives them the reaction they want.  Sutton comes unhinged and hits back which paints her to be a crazy, out of control, drunk woman, the cycle keeps going, Sutton would do better to ignore, choose her battles, consider the source, etc...

I am not saying Sutton is blameless or perfect because she has said some nasty things to the other women, if she can control her reactions and really sees who is saying what and why she would see it is because they want her off the show and she just keeps serving herself on a silver platter as their plaything.

 

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4 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

you guys yes queen them and brush away their behavior which again its 10 times worse then sutton has ever done ... I cant go back to the all mean girls era of this show they are 800 years old and to old to be acting like that

I get what you are saying.  

The sad truth is when Dorit and Erika poke, and mean girl anyone till they walk off the show it means those women (who ever walks off) have to be recast and we have seen some really bad recasting/rebooting from the other cities so in a sense Dorit and Erika might be shooting themselves in their collective foot.

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I agree with both @Baltimore Betty and @Keywestclubkid 

Yes, Erika and Dorit are vile excuses for human beings and have been relentlessly horrible to Sutton. While Sutton should not be expected to just sit there and take it, some of her reactions have made the situations worse.  At this point they are baiting her, and if it were me, I'd ignore them and let them talk without the satisfaction of getting me riled up to the point I blurt out something in the heat of the moment that they can use against me. They refuse to let the mouse go, and Sutton is too emotionally involved to sit back and look at the situation objectively.  and gets caught up in the moment, which is what they're counting on. 

Should Sutton have to alter her behavior to get along? No, absolutely not, but this is how elementary school bullies work

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16 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

I agree with both @Baltimore Betty and @Keywestclubkid 

Yes, Erika and Dorit are vile excuses for human beings and have been relentlessly horrible to Sutton. While Sutton should not be expected to just sit there and take it, some of her reactions have made the situations worse.  At this point they are baiting her, and if it were me, I'd ignore them and let them talk without the satisfaction of getting me riled up to the point I blurt out something in the heat of the moment that they can use against me. They refuse to let the mouse go, and Sutton is too emotionally involved to sit back and look at the situation objectively.  and gets caught up in the moment, which is what they're counting on. 

Should Sutton have to alter her behavior to get along? No, absolutely not, but this is how elementary school bullies work

That is what I tried to say as well.  

If only Sutton could react in a more chic way, lol.

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10 hours ago, princelina said:

Was that her only reason?  If so it helped her out.  I happen to think she was just smarter than the others, which Sutton is not. 

thats not really the point tho .. the white caste-mates can throw temper tantrums and scream and call each other bitches c u next Tuesdays etc etc and they arnt labeled "angry" they are just expressing themselves .. SHE and people who are like her ARNT allowed that luxury ... her even raising her voice is condemned as shes just ANGRY

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3 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

thats not really the point tho .. the white caste-mates can throw temper tantrums and scream and call each other bitches c u next Tuesdays etc etc and they arnt labeled "angry" they are just expressing themselves .. SHE and people who are like her ARNT allowed that luxury ... her even raising her voice is condemned as shes just ANGRY

They may not be labeled "angry" but they're certainly called assholes, bitches and everything else (see every thread this season 😄) while Garcelle remains a fan favorite. I wouldn't want to act that way in public, whether or not I "could", and I hope Garcelle feels the same way!  I call people the c-word in private with my husband or close friends, like you're supposed to! 😂

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Another unfortunate truth is that Sutton doesn't get the same grace from fans that Erika and Dorit do because Sutton isn't conventionally "attractive" to them. She's not "serving lewks" or "slaying the house down" or whateverthefuck else viewers deem as important. 

They are the two shittiest and most fraudulent in the cast. And they are the most broke in a franchise that is supposed to exude opulence. For goodness sakes, Dorit talks with a fake accent and Erika is so selfish she's unsympathetic to Tom's victims because of how it all impacts her bank account!  But only Sutton sucks because of how she reacts to the girls when they incessantly poke at her. 

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7 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

And i feel like this is WHY these shows are dying .. you guys dont care that Erika who lived off widows and orphans or Dorit who doesn't care as long as it isnt her kid have this right to go after anyone just cause they think someone is obnoxious ..

 

you guys reward bad behavior cause its against someone you dont like while ignoring the HORRIBLE things those same people do with a hand wave of well she was obnoxious so she deserves it .. but these 2 harpies dont?

they get embolden by th3e fans ... 

they again have no moral high ground to try to hold anyone accountable because they arnt held accountable themselves

I’m not a fan of Erika and Dorit. I hope they both get fired. Did you boycott the show because greedy thieving Erika and grifting Dorit are still on? 
Sutton did the same thing with Dorit that she did with Erika. She pretended to care then turned on her and thought she’d have the support of the others. She didn’t. 

I want to believe Boz's post about Garcelle is genuine, but after watching her and Erika on WWHL I feel like it is more of a cover your ass move.

I do not know if I can watch another season of more Erika, Dorit, and to some extent Kyle BS. Kyle was not too bad this season, but that was probably because she was not on good terms with Dorit. Garcelle was my favorite of the bunch, so it really depends on who they cast to replace her. I do not want to see another gang up on Sutton season, because that seems to happen every season.

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9 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

I want to believe Boz's post about Garcelle is genuine, but after watching her and Erika on WWHL I feel like it is more of a cover your ass move.

I do not know if I can watch another season of more Erika, Dorit, and to some extent Kyle BS. Kyle was not too bad this season, but that was probably because she was not on good terms with Dorit. Garcelle was my favorite of the bunch, so it really depends on who they cast to replace her. I do not want to see another gang up on Sutton season, because that seems to happen every season.

here is the thing .. Boz is new she is new to these ladies .. she will see how they move IF she comes back and we all can say .. you fell for the bullshit .. they used you to help along getting someone off the show and if you step outside that line even once it will be you next ... we know this .. she will see

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15 minutes ago, dmeets said:

LOL THIS is why Erika went into a spiral once Tom was found guilty.

[...]"The lawsuit contends “Ms. Girardi knowingly and willingly participated in Mr. Girardi’s criminal enterprise, and the money used to pay her business expenses were monies from that criminal enterprise.”

oopsies!

You lay with dogs you get fleas 

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53 minutes ago, dmeets said:

LOL THIS is why Erika went into a spiral once Tom was found guilty.

And quite possibly why she STILL hasn't bothered to divorce Tom; she was not called to testify during his trial, most likely because she was still his wife.  That and his alleged dementia  guarantees he won't be testifying against her.   

I have to laugh that EJ Global is different from Erika personally.  A legal loophole against liability. 

Unfortunately she's had a few years to get her victim-hood act out to anyone interested.  I don't have high hopes for a judgement against her, but I am dreading Erika strutting around a victory as some sort of vindication of her "innocence".   *snort*

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56 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

And quite possibly why she STILL hasn't bothered to divorce Tom; she was not called to testify during his trial, most likely because she was still his wife.  That and his alleged dementia  guarantees he won't be testifying against her.   

I have to laugh that EJ Global is different from Erika personally.  A legal loophole against liability. 

Unfortunately she's had a few years to get her victim-hood act out to anyone interested.  I don't have high hopes for a judgement against her, but I am dreading Erika strutting around a victory as some sort of vindication of her "innocence".   *snort*

Couldn't be me. If I had any inkling that my husband was up to no good, and the authorities came to me about him. 

This would be me: spacer.png

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