Current Plots Discussion: Actually Today's Episode

[buffynut]

I've watched 2 days in a row! And though I'm not crazy about the storylines right now, I'm am enjoying the combination of characters that are popping up on screen. Instead of flipping back and forth between a couple characters / scenes the whole show, we're getting scenes where someone pops in, has news and then moves one.  

[Rowan]

17 minutes ago, pau said:

Well no..Ej and Sami (and JS/AS)  have been used enough in order to prop and give storylines to other characters, particularly Abby..even if the Abby recast is less a disaster (i don't know, i don't watch this show anymore but it could never be worse than Kate Mansi slutty, trashy version) And she was not the original adult version, it was Ashley Benson who is now pretty famous for pretty little liars. 

So i say leave Ej and Sami alone and if Abby and Chad are interesting characters, they should manage to get interesting storylines without using others imo..

I was watching when Ashley Benson began.  

I realize that people had strong reaactions to the affair. It came out of nowhere and didn't feel in character for EJ. But the show went with it and I really enjoyed Sami laying it all out in front of Jennifer, no less. 

I never suggested that it be used to prop characters. It happened. It's just something I think would be interesting to watch Chad and Abby navigate. It would involve established characters not some new and unneeded villain. I wasn't suggesting EJ should return and he and Abigail fall into some lust filled frenzy. (Though, I am a chemistry ho, and if they had it? I wouldn't dismiss it as a compelling obstacle out of hand.) I love a flawed heroine. They don't always have to be sweetness and light to be rootable. 

Once again, just something I think would be interesting. 

[DisneyBoy]

1 hour ago, Apprentice79 said:

I read it somewhere, that was Dena's ending and Ron changed it to Nicole. We are currently seeing Dena's pile of shit that Ron has tweaked to flow into his stories in September.

So that would make it twice now that Victor was spared jail time for heinous crimes (first kidnapping Tate and now arranging Deimos' death) thanks to a changing of the guard rewrite.

Does Corday refuse to put John Aniston behind bars for any specific reason?

Edited August 23, 2017 by DisneyBoy

[pau]

3 hours ago, Rowan said:

I was watching when Ashley Benson began.  

I realize that people had strong reaactions to the affair. It came out of nowhere and didn't feel in character for EJ. But the show went with it and I really enjoyed Sami laying it all out in front of Jennifer, no less. 

I never suggested that it be used to prop characters. It happened. It's just something I think would be interesting to watch Chad and Abby navigate. It would involve established characters not some new and unneeded villain. I wasn't suggesting EJ should return and he and Abigail fall into some lust filled frenzy. (Though, I am a chemistry ho, and if they had it? I wouldn't dismiss it as a compelling obstacle out of hand.) I love a flawed heroine. They don't always have to be sweetness and light to be rootable. 

Once again, just something I think would be interesting. 

I understand what you meant but Ej should not be used as an obstacle for Abby and Chad..when the character is so much more powerful and layered than both Chad and Abby reunited. He should not be used, it would be insulting and lazy imo (although that did not stop this soap tptb to do it  in his last year and.. it was a fiasco). And JS has no intention to come back on this soap (he told it again this summer), even less to play these vain sleazy type of storylines and a recast would be a disaster.  

Abby and Chad should have intern conflict, should be interesting by themselves otherwise these characters should not exist. 

A flawed heroine why not, but Abby is not a flawed heroine..she is no heroine but she is not established as a layered flawed character either, the characterisation of this character is just weak and hypocritical..it is not a layered characterisation..since the writing use a one note and innacurate narrative : Abby is an innocent flower and no one should dare telling she is flawed and even morally corrupt tbh..although by her actions and dialogue she is..

And flawed heroine can be great but if the flaw is just being sex starved at all coasts..it is weak..and not compelling or interesting..imho.

Maybe she can have a sex addiction storyline (since there was some hint about that displayed on her storylines..) ..but it needs a better character as a socle and better writers.

Edited August 24, 2017 by pau

[Silver Raven]

The foursome of Lani/Gabi/Eli/JJ is like watching a tennis match.  I wish they would settle.

"God, could you stop lurking.  Could you just walk into a room like a normal person?"

That was weirdly dramatic music playing in the background of the Kate and Andre confrontation scene.

How many times has Chad broken Abigail's heart?  Um, zero?

And never think that Kate is satisfied with her "children" being happy with the people they choose, instead of the people she chooses for them.

"I told you so" is never a good response, Kate.

Aw, Lucas. But damn, the snark at Eric was on point.

Gee, Brady, maybe you shouldn't be standing there waving that amulet around in public.

[Chick2Chic]

1 hour ago, Rowan said:

I realize that people had strong reaactions to the affair. It came out of nowhere and didn't feel in character for EJ. But the show went with it and I really enjoyed Sami laying it all out in front of Jennifer, no less. 

 

I despise that hook-up story for many reasons. 

I also loathed how neutered Sami was in her revenge towards Abby because the show seemed to care more about making sure Abby got passes from all the other characters for bad choices. She didn't really suffer any legitimate consequences aside from losing a job for a month that she rarely went to in the first place. And then there were times where Abby as written as the victim and Sami the bad guy. Remember when Abby showed up at Sami's house on her high horse to try to read her? It was all absolutely awful.

I know Corday won't admit explicitly that story was complete rubbish but when your two leads have such strong negative reactions to it - and if rumors are true, actually quit the show over it - and the "actress" you have tapped as the new show lead has to be carried by her recently hired leading man via a manufactured *it was always you* story instead of carrying much of anything herself, it's a problem. One big reason KM's Abby never worked me from 2014 until she left is no matter what selfish crap Abby pulled, everyone always told her it was ok and someone / something else's fault that she made the choices she did. KM's Abby wasn't a heroine by her character's actual behavior but because Days was forcing all the other characters to state Abby being this strong/capable/wise/generous young woman even though it thoroughly undeserved and untrue to what we were shown.  

I think MM is a much stronger actress even though her chemistry with BF is less than KM's (IMO, their rumored offscreen dislike of each other created more onscreen heat) but I'd rather the show leave well enough alone as I don't think there's any way they could dredge up that horrific time and not make it worse. The damage was too great. 

I'd rather see MM continue to bring a somewhat stronger, definitely warmer Abby to the show and just leave that hook-up mess in the dumpster where it belongs. 

1 hour ago, Silver Raven said:

The foursome of Lani/Gabi/Eli/JJ is like watching a tennis match.  I wish they would settle.

 

I'll take Gabi/Eli and Lani/JJ, if it ever settles. 

[ihavenoidea]

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How many times has Chad broken Abigail's heart?  Um, zero?

When he told her he used her for sex after their romp in the Dimera garden.  Of course he was just doing that because Stefano wanted to use Abby to get that money at the time.  Also some may say Abby had it coming because she was cheating on Ben, but he did indeed hurt her then.

The brainwashing when she showed up and he told her he lied and didn't want to be with her, but that wasn't really his fault.  She was still devastated.

I would add in the brain tumor lie, but they were kind of playing it that she had just settled for him at that point.

[Sandman]

5 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

Don't forget that Will and Sonny were married, and they were both cousins to Abigail and JJ.

But not, we hasten to add, cousins to each other. Or, er, themselves. Although Will has had so many supposed parents, and step-parents, and parents who turn out to have different parentage themselves, that he might be close to being his own cousin. To be fair, Sonny and Bonehead Black are second cousins rather than first cousins.

ETA: Hey, I just realized that Abigail's mother's brother is (or, rather, was) dating her father's sister! Which would make any (granted, highly unlikely) Lucas-Adrienne spawn Abigail's double cousin.

I don't think JJ/Lani is going to be for the long haul -- I don't know why, but I just don't see them lasting. I'm not sure that means JJ/Gabi is endgame, but I'm hopeless at this sort of prediction, anyhow.

4 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

And never think that Kate is satisfied with her "children" being happy with the people they choose, instead of the people she chooses for them.

And how! This is Kate through and through. Wrinklestiltskin's going to chop Kate into tartare, isn't he?

Edited August 24, 2017 by Sandman
Cousins! And more cousins!

[nilyank]

2 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

How many times has Chad broken Abigail's heart?  Um, zero?

 

Not as many times as she broke his heart including faking her death.

 

1 hour ago, Chick2Chic said:

also loathed how neutered Sami was in her revenge towards Abby because the show seemed to care more about making sure Abby got passes from all the other characters for bad choices. She didn't really suffer any legitimate consequences aside from losing a job for a month that she rarely went to in the first place. And then there were times where Abby as written as the victim and Sami the bad guy. Remember when Abby showed up at Sami's house on her high horse to try to read her? It was all absolutely awful.

EJ was killed and people (granted her silly mother and brother) were handling Abby as she lost a loved one and not the guy she had some sleazy hookups who initially slept with her to keep her quiet about Nick's disappearance. While she was still heavily involved with Ben, the serial killer.

I said it before but Abby gravitates towards the crazy drama because she is such a dull character on her lonesome.  

I actually fear what will happen when Sami shows up. 

[Rowan]

4 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

How about Mia coming back when Abby  was presumed dead ? she could have become obsessed with Thomas and Chad by extension, due to losing, their daughter Grace, all those years ago. Perhaps, Gabi becomes concern and they clash, this could have been the beginning of a true love story between Gabi and Chad.   They could have done that story, instead of creating a fake backstory between Gabi and Chad.  Mia had history with  Nicole, Sydney, Sami, Will, Gabi and Chad.  Why does this show ignore their rich history.. I will never not be astounded by that fact.

That certainly would have been better than the Ciara thing they flirted with and then straight into Love and Baseball with Gabi. 

I would just like to be entertained by something I felt was less plot driven. It sucks to try and hand wave a character's actions because you realize  the writer doesn't give a crap if it makes sense. You have to swallow these stories and accept them as part of who the characters are. It's just disappointing, really.

Chad and Gabi could have been viable in the above scenario to me. I still may have found myself pulling for Chad and Abby in the end, as I find I like this version of the couple. 

[pau]

18 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Not as many times as she broke his heart including faking her death.

 

EJ was killed and people (granted her silly mother and brother) were handling Abby as she lost a loved one and not the guy she had some sleazy hookups who initially slept with her to keep her quiet about Nick's disappearance. While she was still heavily involved with Ben, the serial killer.

I said it before but Abby gravitates towards the crazy drama because she is such a dull character on her lonesome.  

I actually fear what will happen when Sami shows up. 

I wanted to watch Sami little come back arc but honestly i am afraid and dread it..so i am not sure i will watch it..meh.

[Frozendiva]

Abby needs to own her actions. Is rushing into marriage with Chad (again) a good idea? She is not stable. When even your mother isn't thrilled about it, step back a bit and take some time to yourself. She can't seem to be 'alone' for more than five minutes.  Get well, get over your neediness, and maybe you can find someone who is a decent spouse.

Someone please take Lucas home.

The Kiriakis servants can't put the alcohol decanters away? With Brady going back to the bottle, the first thing Victor should have insisted was that Henderson or whoever lock up the booze.

Justin doesn't think it is odd that Adrienne chose him all of a sudden? Plus that she wants to move back in to the mansion? Has she met with Anne - who I guess is now the editor of the paper since Jen and Adrienne don't seem to be uh, working. Of course, Anne would probably have her number.

Andre, maybe there is a reason you are not running DiMera Enterprises. Oh yes, going to a shrink is going to greatly help you.

[JBC344]

8 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

So Brady's brother is marrying Brady's cousin?  That's... not actually incestual, but sure sounds like it.  This show is so messed up; everyone is related to everyone. 

Well Brady's sister is married to his cousin. His deceased nephew was Sonny's first husband. Ironically these are not the most incestuous pairings. 

[FnkyChkn34]

56 minutes ago, JBC344 said:

Well Brady's sister is married to his cousin. His deceased nephew was Sonny's first husband. Ironically these are not the most incestuous pairings. 

Very true, they are not. Just the pairing of the day I suppose. 

[boes]

1 hour ago, JBC344 said:

Well Brady's sister is married to his cousin. His deceased nephew was Sonny's first husband. Ironically these are not the most incestuous pairings. 

You mean Shawn D. and Will?  Brady isn't related to them anymore since John was scrubbed of Brady blood when his mother was retconned.  Other than his Kiriakis relations, he's only blood related to Claire and her kid and Sparkle.

[Star Aristille]

1 hour ago, boes said:

You mean Shawn D. and Will?  Brady isn't related to them anymore since John was scrubbed of Brady blood when his mother was retconned.  Other than his Kiriakis relations, he's only blood related to Claire and her kid and Sparkle.

Wrong.  Shawn's grandfather is Victor, and his father was Bo, who was also Brady's uncle through Isabella.  Thus, Shawn is Brady's cousin.

Edited August 24, 2017 by Star Aristille

[JBC344]

1 hour ago, boes said:

You mean Shawn D. and Will?  Brady isn't related to them anymore since John was scrubbed of Brady blood when his mother was retconned.  Other than his Kiriakis relations, he's only blood related to Claire and her kid and Sparkle.

Shawn D is Brady's cousin through Bo. Bo and Isabella were siblings. 

Yes, technically Will isn't blood related to Brady, but if Sami, Eric, Brady, Belle, Carrie, etc all consider themselves siblings than that would extend to Will being the nephew. 

[MsTree]

11 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

So Brady's brother is marrying Brady's cousin?  That's... not actually incestual, but sure sounds like it.  This show is so messed up; everyone is related to everyone. 

Welcome to world of soap operas.....

[Sandman]

I mentioned it upthread as an edit, but I'll drop it here again just this once: Brady and Sonny are only second cousins, since Bonehead Black's grandfather is Sonny's great-uncle; they're actually not as closely related as some of the other family clusters mentioned. But, as JBC mentions, a lot of the half-sibs and step-sibs were raised as and consider themselves brothers and sisters, which tightens the network. (I think Brady might actually be younger than Sonny, but I've completely lost track of who was SORASed when, and by how much.)

[Apprentice79]

18 minutes ago, Sandman said:

I mentioned it upthread as an edit, but I'll drop it here again just this once: Brady and Sonny are only second cousins, since Bonehead Black's grandfather is Sonny's great-uncle; they're actually not as closely related as some of the other family clusters mentioned. But, as JBC mentions, a lot of the half-sibs and step-sibs were raised as and consider themselves brothers and sisters, which tightens the network. (I think Brady might actually be younger than Sonny, but I've completely lost track of who was SORASed when, and by how much.)

Brady is younger than Sonny.  He was born in 1992 on the show. While Sonny was born offscreen in 1991.. Adrienne left pregnant with him, when she and Justin left the show with their 3 toddlers. Stefanie and Jeannie(Theresa) are older than Brady as well. The recast aged him too much..

Edited August 24, 2017 by Apprentice79

[msrachelj]

On 8/23/2017 at 10:24 AM, DisneyBoy said:

Three: Cabin, gym shower, storage closet.

I would feel a lot better about this if Anne were to show up at some point soon. I'm really hoping she's the one that Lucas rebounds with, but Ron hasn't written a single scene for her yet.

Depends on what you think of Christianity. A bit off topic, but didn't Melissa Reeves support Chick-fil-A during their scandal few years back? some people still refer to her by referencing Chick-fil-A but I've forgotten exactly what those details were. In any event she's quite religious and has brought a severe church lady vibe to the character for years. I don't mind a woman on the show going gray naturally and look forward to seeing Deidre embrace that if she ever chooses to, but I agree that something should be done about Jennifer's look. It's not sexy.

she supported chick-fil-a's stance against homosexuality i think it was.  so,.... not very christian. i believe she is in one of the extreme christian branches,  i don't know much about them but i do not think having ugly long straight plastered to your head hair is a requirement. i can not concentrate on the scene when i see her. it looks worse every time she is on. gray is one thing, though her gray is an awful unflattering tone, but the lack of style says homeless witch. true, it's not sexy. it's not even flattering ,age appropriate etc. the only thing that would redeem this hair style would be if she were growing it out to cut it all off and donate it.

[FnkyChkn34]

32 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Brady is younger than Sonny.  He was born in 1992 on the show. While Sonny was born offscreen in 1991.. Adrienne left pregnant with him, when she and Justin left the show with their 3 toddlers. Stefanie and Jeannie(Theresa) are older than Brady as well. The recast aged him too much..

So I was just about to come here and say that Brady has to be that old because he is older than the SORASed twins, Eric and Sami...  but he's not.  He's supposed to be 6 years younger??  Umm... he supposed to be even younger than Shawn and Belle.  

Yeah, that makes no sense.

[Apprentice79]

1 minute ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

So I was just about to come here and say that Brady has to be that old because he is older than the SORASed twins, Eric and Sami...  but he's not.  He's supposed to be 6 years younger??  Umm... he supposed to be even younger than Shawn and Belle.  

Yeah, that makes no sense.

Brady and Abigail were born in the same year. Their moms were pregnant together.  What a novelty and there was not a baby switch...lol Brady is younger than Shawn, but, older than Belle..

[FnkyChkn34]

3 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Brady and Abigail were born in the same year. Their moms were pregnant together.  What a novelty and there was not a baby switch...lol Brady is younger than Shawn, but, older than Belle..

Well, Belle has been SORASed though too... so... ugh.  Confusing.

[Apprentice79]

2 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Well, Belle has been SORASed though too... so... ugh.  Confusing.

Shawn-Douglas was deaged to be paired with Belle.  Shawn-Douglas was born after Andrew, who was born after Eric and Sami.. The show should have aged people in chronological order of their births.  Theo was born before JJ, but JJ is older than him..

Edited August 24, 2017 by Apprentice79

[FnkyChkn34]

1 minute ago, Apprentice79 said:

Shawn-Douglas was deaged to be paired with Belle.  Shawn-Douglas was born after Andrew, who was born after Eric and Sami..

I think Shawn-Douglas was aged, but just not as much.  He was born on the show in 1987, and then they all graduated high school in 2001.  Belle was born on the show in 1993 (Brady in 1992), so they were just aged more.  Eric and Sami were born on the show in 1984 and also aged.  (Thanks, Wikipedia!)

[Apprentice79]

30 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I think Shawn-Douglas was aged, but just not as much.  He was born on the show in 1987, and then they all graduated high school in 2001.  Belle was born on the show in 1993 (Brady in 1992), so they were just aged more.  Eric and Sami were born on the show in 1984 and also aged.  (Thanks, Wikipedia!)

Shawn-Douglas should have been in stories with Andrew, Sami and Eric. Not Belle, Philip and Brady.

[FnkyChkn34]

1 minute ago, Apprentice79 said:

Shawn-Douglas should have been in stories with Andrew, Sami and Eric. Not Belle, Philip and Brady.

Was Andrew ever around?  I don't remember him at all.  I thought Kim and Shane took him and left.  They couldn't have aged Shawn-D as much as they did Sami and Eric though, IMO, because Hope just isn't that old either.  The ages of Shawn and Belle make sense to me.  I guess it's just Brady that's the weirdest anomaly. 

[Apprentice79]

6 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Was Andrew ever around?  I don't remember him at all.  I thought Kim and Shane took him and left.  They couldn't have aged Shawn-D as much as they did Sami and Eric though, IMO, because Hope just isn't that old either.  The ages of Shawn and Belle make sense to me.  I guess it's just Brady that's the weirdest anomaly. 

No, the last time we saw Andrew, he was a kid.  He was a mini Shane.  Kim decided to send him and Jeannie to England to be with their dad. She was in the throes of her mental illness and was afraid of hurting them. Andrew and Shawn-Douglas were really close as kids.  Belle and Brady should be much younger.

Edited August 24, 2017 by Apprentice79

[JBC344]

As they SORASED both Belle and Brady they just widened the gap between their ages. They were a year to a year and a half apart now they are more like 5 to 6 years apart.

Shawn D like Will could only be slightly aged due to the ages of Hope and Sami without making it look too off balance. 

Sami was a teenager, and Hope really wasn't that much older when they had them. 

But yes, the selective SORASING does get confusing. 

[Sandman]

This episode of Adventures in SORASing has been brought to you by our composer Ken and his Head Writer Roulette Orchestra, the Revolving Door of the Writers' Room, and the makers of We Don't Need No Stinkin' Show Bible! Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.

[JBC344]

39 minutes ago, Sandman said:

This episode of Adventures in SORASing has been brought to you by our composer Ken and his Head Writer Roulette Orchestra, the Revolving Door of the Writers' Room, and the makers of We Don't Need No Stinkin' Show Bible! Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.

You win quote of the day. 

[methodwriter85]

2 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I think Shawn-Douglas was aged, but just not as much.  He was born on the show in 1987, and then they all graduated high school in 2001.  Belle was born on the show in 1993 (Brady in 1992), so they were just aged more.  Eric and Sami were born on the show in 1984 and also aged.  (Thanks, Wikipedia!)

Actually, 2002. Although I guess they had to retcon that to account for Claire being 18, but ages stop existing once you're considered a full adult and not a young person.

Shawn, Will, and Abigail are probably the least aged of the characters on the show. (At least if we're assuming that Shawn was retconned into being a teen daddy and he's still under the age of 35.) I would count Sonny, as he was born in 1991 and he's more or less the right age, but he didn't grow up on the show so that doesn't feel fair.

I had a college teacher once go on a rant about Hope's SORAS-ing. "I would watch Days of Our Lives. One day, Baby Hope was just a little girl. Then the next day, she was like 12. Then all of sudden, she's 18 and getting married!" Hope was born on-sceen in 1975, apparently. Obviously, she wasn't 8 in 1983.

I'm totally onboard the Claire/Tripp ship. She needs a guy who doesn't look nauseated to be around her.

And smell ya later, Joey! Hopefully when you return you have a different face and an actual personality!

Every time I see Steve, I keep wishing he was Stefan Cassadine. A much more interesting character, but oh well.

Edited August 24, 2017 by methodwriter85

[DisneyBoy]

So Victor wants Brady to blackmail Nicole with the amulet? That is such a Victor thing to do. She was, after all, his wife. I can see the history sneaking in there, Sherri, and I appreciate it!

I loved the John Robichaux reference. They could have easily ignored that bit of history, but I hope they mine it (Yo Ling fan here).

Glad drunk Lucas could still figure out she wasn't his girlfriend.

Nicole and Eric are definitely having chemistry again. I'm actually kind of happy that Ron is speeding up things in that regard. Have! Sex! Already!

it's fun watching Anjelica's completely nonsensical pie-in-the-sky plan fall apart. I feel badly for John and Marlena and Lucas but it's kind of nice watching a villain lose for a change. All too often it seems they always execute their plans on this show no matter how stupid they may be. I'm so glad Ron corrected course on this one.

Adrienne should definitely have been able to get released from prison though. And how did she know that Bonnie looked exactly like her? Far as I can tell she never met Bonnie much less realized they looked the same..

Edited August 24, 2017 by DisneyBoy

[teacake]

I just hope Claire doesn't give Tripp any reason to doubt her, or she may end up with a scalpel at her neck or a pillow over her face.  (As much as I didn't care for Jade, I always worried for her, too, after Joey snapped and killed Ava.  Horrible things to do to young characters if you want them to be romantic leads.)

[FnkyChkn34]

49 minutes ago, methodwriter85 said:

Actually, 2002. Although I guess they had to retcon that to account for Claire being 18, but ages stop existing once you're considered a full adult and not a young person.

Shawn, Will, and Abigail are probably the least aged of the characters on the show. (At least if we're assuming that Shawn was retconned into being a teen daddy and he's still under the age of 35.) I would count Sonny, as he was born in 1991 and he's more or less the right age, but he didn't grow up on the show so that doesn't feel fair.

I had a college teacher once go on a rant about Hope's SORAS-ing. "I would watch Days of Our Lives. One day, Baby Hope was just a little girl. Then the next day, she was like 12. Then all of sudden, she's 18 and getting married!" Hope was born on-sceen in 1975, apparently. Obviously, she wasn't 8 in 1983.

Brandon Beemer is 37, and Jason Cook is 36 almost 37.  I never got the impression that Shawn-D was supposed to be under 35 still?  I guess if we're going by his high school graduation, but I also got the impression that they did some subtle SORASing in those "college" years.  Seems to me like no character has ever gone to college for all 4 years.

[JBC344]

I would say the "last blast" crew (Shawn, Belle, Phillip, Chloe) is about 35-36 now. Accounting for Claire's SORASING. 

[Silver Raven]

Did John tell Marlena, "I'm going to get your butt back to Salem?"

What happened to the money that Chad stole from Sonny?  Are they just sweeping that under the rug?

It's wedding season?  I thought April was wedding season.

Damn, that Bonnie and Lucas in bed was rather ... explicit.

[DisneyBoy]

About time we got some explicit sex. From what I remember, JJ and Gabi were pretty explicit in bed, though there wasn't any dialogue to drive home the point that they had both...gone snorkeling, so to speak.

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Seems to me like no character has ever gone to college for all 4 years.

Thank you! So true. I was equally annoyed that none of the characters on Smallville actually made it through college either. Shows like this don't seem to care about that stuff. Who needs an education when you can get pregnant and inherit money? Or become a super spy!

[JBC344]

Now most shows do the time jump right after high school or the first year of college. 

[BlackMamba]

I know it's not a first time for daytime (Brooke and old Ridge use to do it on BB) , but was Lucas really giving Bonnie head today! ???

The sad, yet funny part he's so drunk he couldn't really examine if it was really Adrienne's or Bonnie's coocoo. 

[methodwriter85]

7 hours ago, JBC344 said:

I would say the "last blast" crew (Shawn, Belle, Phillip, Chloe) is about 35-36 now. Accounting for Claire's SORASING. 

Which isn't too extreme. If they had all been born in 1984 like the average member of the class of 2002, they should be 33 or getting ready to turn it. But yeah, I think the only college set I can think of where they actually went all four years was like Jessica and Natalie's cohort on One Life To Live.

They might let the current college set stay there for a bit since it doesn't seem like any new teen scene is on the horizon yet and they're basically rebuilding the current one

Edited August 25, 2017 by methodwriter85

[Silver Raven]

I think the Luke/Maddy/Will coterie went through four years of college on ATWT, didn't they?

[Rowan]

Brady, hurry up and do something extra stupid and douchey, so Nicole can be justified when she bangs Eric's brains out. I want this to happen so badly. 

I'm more than ready for Abs to be out of that hospital bed. 

I hate to ff, but I'm not down for this Hattie and Angelica nonsense. 

[Star Aristille]

Sigh.  Of course Hattie had the foresight to deal with John finding Marlena.  Telling the orderlies that he's also insane was admittedly clever, but it forces this storyline to go on.  About the only benefit to all of this is that at least John and Marlena are in trouble together.  It's very rare that you see a "couple in peril" storyline.  It's usually one half of the couple having to be rescued by the other half.

Lucas seemed to be getting there with realizing that Adrienne wasn't Adrienne.  But then, he wrecked it by continuing to have sex with her, anyway.

I was shocked to see Victor actually understand Nicole's motives for killing Deimos, despite him hating her personally.  Though yeah, I did appreciate him suggesting that Brady use the amulet as blackmail material.  And if Brady ever learns that Eric really is falling for her again, that just might happen.

Edited August 27, 2017 by Star Aristille

[salvame]

For one brief moment, I thought Joey was going to be the one to blow the doppelganger story when he got to "Statesville." Damn you, Steve, for blowing this glimmer of hope.

Hopefully, when they decide to bring Joey back to town, they will recast, or the current actor will have matured. Joey is so morose, Eeyore looks like a ray of sunshine by comparison!!

[Frozendiva]

Eventually the doctor will return from holidays and the John/Marlena straitjacket story will be over.  Surely the orderlies could have looked in John's pockets and found his ISA credentials. Ah well. Makes for a 'story'.

We still don't know if Nicole really did stab Deimos.

Liked drunk Lucas with 'Adrienne'. Of course he realized she was not his girlfriend/fiancée.

Abs, think long and hard about marriage. Being alone for a while isn't that bad. You don't need to be validated by having a man 24/7. Surely your therapist would advise you to not dive deep in to another marriage.

Brady, do you really think that keeping Nicole's secret or maybe real/maybe not real memory is a good idea?

[DisneyBoy]

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Brady, hurry up and do something extra stupid and douchey, so Nicole can be justified when she bangs Eric's brains out. I want this to happen so badly.

Word. Except that I really want Ericole to be guilt-free, for once. These two have always been feeling guilty about wanting each other. This one time it needs to be pleasure, period.

Hopefully Brady pisses Nic off so much by keeping the talisman as blackmail material that she ends it with him and two weeks later (an eternity in soap time!) just gives in and gets real with Eric. I want Poor Father Eric to know he's 100% in the clear to love her.

[Sandman]

1 hour ago, Star Aristille said:

I  was shocked to see Victor actually understand Nicole's motives for killing Deimos, despite him hating her personally.

Well, he hates them both pretty much equally; I think that counts as objectivity in Salem.

[Star Aristille]

26 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Eventually the doctor will return from holidays and the John/Marlena straitjacket story will be over.  Surely the orderlies could have looked in John's pockets and found his ISA credentials. Ah well. Makes for a 'story'.

Speaking of the orderlies, I still want that mean black one to go down.  Like I said before, I get he's doing his job, but he doesn't have to be so evil and nasty in doing it.  I know I'm the only one to feel that way, but still . . .