Plastic Surgery Run Amok, or Renee Zellweger: What Were You Thinking?

[Ms Blue Jay]

Hearing about this pressure from these people makes me so mad.

[Mabinogia]

3 hours ago, Wiendish Fitch said:

Going waaaaaay back, but during Ava Gardner's early days at MGM, the powers that be reportedly tried to pressure her into getting plastic surgery to remove her chin dimple. I'm so glad she refused.

OMG! Her face is perfection. I am also glad she refused. It would have made her look like any other pretty brunette. The chin dimple is what makes her a unique beauty. 

What scares me about the current wave of cosmetic/plastic surgery is that little by little it is going to take away what makes the persons face interesting and unique. Instead we are going to get a sea of plastic faces that all look the same. 

[methodwriter85]

5 hours ago, Wiendish Fitch said:

Going waaaaaay back, but during Ava Gardner's early days at MGM, the powers that be reportedly tried to pressure her into getting plastic surgery to remove her chin dimple. I'm so glad she refused.

She did, however, submit to painful electrolysis sessions to raise her hairline to make her look less ethnic. That's also why they made her have red hair, which was her signature.

Edited May 10, 2022 by methodwriter85

[Wiendish Fitch]

10 minutes ago, methodwriter85 said:

She did, however, submit to painful electrolysis sessions to raise her hairline to make her look less ethnic. That's also why they made her have red hair, which was her signature.

That sounds like Rita Hayworth...

[Bruinsfan]

What kind of crazy do you have to be to look at that face and decides things need to be changed?

[Wiendish Fitch]

19 minutes ago, Bruinsfan said:

What kind of crazy do you have to be to look at that face and decides things need to be changed?

Oh, it's all about control. Heck, I read somewhere that when the young Elizabeth Taylor first came to MGM, they wanted to pluck her eyebrows, lighten her black hair to brown, and change her name to "Virginia". Her dad thankfully told them to piss off and accept her for who she was.

 

Edited May 10, 2022 by Wiendish Fitch

[Ms Blue Jay]

I know that this is nowhere near the same thing, but Leonardo DiCaprio was considered too ethnic too: 

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At the beginning of his career, DiCaprio had difficulty finding an agent. When he found one, he suggested DiCaprio change his name to Lenny Williams to appeal to American audiences, which he declined to do.[25][26] 

I can't stand how much pull these Hollywood advisors seem to have.  Obviously it doesn't work on everyone but it works on so many people. 

Edited May 10, 2022 by Ms Blue Jay

[elle]

56 minutes ago, Wiendish Fitch said:

1 hour ago, methodwriter85 said:

She did, however, submit to painful electrolysis sessions to raise her hairline to make her look less ethnic. That's also why they made her have red hair, which was her signature.

That sounds like Rita Hayworth...

I agree that it was Rita Hayworth, I don’t recall Ava having red hair in any of her movies.  Good for Ava not caving to the pressure.  Can you imagine tptb asking Cary Grant or Kirk Douglas to “fix” their chin dimple?

[methodwriter85]

Right, Rita Hayworth. Oops. 

[absnow54]

11 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

When he found one, he suggested DiCaprio change his name to Lenny Williams to appeal to American audiences

Ha! I know it's not plastic surgery, but I find it hilarious that some agent thought "Lenny Williams" was the right name for America's next teen heartthrob. I mean, this would be the late-80's/early-90's when All-American "Preppy" names were in. I'm surprised they didn't try to change his name to Luke.

[Wiendish Fitch]

I have issues with Leonardo di Caprio, but his name ain't one of them. Good for him for sticking to his guns.

 

 

[Ms Blue Jay]

Why does Michael Vartan look unrecognizable?  He doesn't look old, and he doesn't even look plastic.  Just like a totally different person.  He says he gets stopped on the street.  Seriously?  I would never recognize him.

 

Edited May 11, 2022 by Ms Blue Jay

[JustHereForFood]

On 5/10/2022 at 3:29 AM, Ms Blue Jay said:

I know that this is nowhere near the same thing, but Leonardo DiCaprio was considered too ethnic too: 

I guess I have been misunderstanding what ethnic means all these years...

[Bruinsfan]

4 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Why does Michael Vartan look unrecognizable?  He doesn't look old, and he doesn't even look plastic.  Just like a totally different person.

I think it's a combination of the glasses, unkempt hair, and no longer having a sharply distinct jawline. If he's had work done by anyone except tattoo artists, I can't see it.

[Jaded]

Thought this was interesting...

Edited May 13, 2022 by Jaded

[absnow54]

On 5/11/2022 at 3:46 PM, Ms Blue Jay said:

Why does Michael Vartan look unrecognizable?  He doesn't look old, and he doesn't even look plastic.  Just like a totally different person.  He says he gets stopped on the street.  Seriously?  I would never recognize him.

I think he looks totally different in pictures, but looked more like himself in the video? His hairline has thinned and receded, and he's put on some weight that has rounded out his face. I'm guessing he only gets recognized when he isn't wearing his glasses.

[supposebly]

On 5/11/2022 at 1:46 PM, Ms Blue Jay said:

Why does Michael Vartan look unrecognizable?  He doesn't look old, and he doesn't even look plastic.

I think he looks just like himself at 53. The glasses are horrible, though.

[Mabinogia]

7 hours ago, absnow54 said:

His hairline has thinned and receded, and he's put on some weight that has rounded out his face.

I think it's the extra fullness of his face that makes the big difference. He had such a slim, angular face in his youth. He still looks great, a bit better to me, as he was a bit too angular for my taste back in the day.

[Scarlett45]

On 5/11/2022 at 2:46 PM, Ms Blue Jay said:

Why does Michael Vartan look unrecognizable?  He doesn't look old, and he doesn't even look plastic.  Just like a totally different person.  He says he gets stopped on the street.  Seriously?  I would never recognize him.

His hair is darker, while he isn’t obese or anything close to that, he’s gained weight in his face and it’s changed the shape. The weight has made his face “droop”. He probably looks closer to his younger self without his glasses. 

My new boss looks DRASTICALLY different with his glasses (much better in my opinion)- some people just have those kind of faces. 

[Ms Blue Jay]

To provide balance to what I post, I also enjoy bringing up people who seem to be aging incredibly well and look really natural and good - Katie Holmes.  My god, she looks fantastic, and she kind of looks the same as she always did.

So does Usher, in this meme that went around like crazy the past few weeks. Okay looking at old pictures, he definitely got a nose job at some point, but it's not toooo dramatic, and he's still aging very well.

Edited July 21, 2022 by Ms Blue Jay

[methodwriter85]

Donna Mills work is pretty good, I think. She claims "a little nipping and tucking" about 40 years ago, but *whispers* I think there's been some touchups.

Where it's smart is that she's left age lines and hasn't pulled back her skin so tight that she looks like a burn victim with a reconstructed face...Which...

Poor Joan van Ark. Seriously, poor Joan.

Edited August 9, 2022 by methodwriter85

[Bruinsfan]

I just saw Donna Mills in Nope a few weeks ago. I don't think anyone on the planet would guess she's 81 if they didn't already know.

[methodwriter85]

8 hours ago, Bruinsfan said:

I just saw Donna Mills in Nope a few weeks ago. I don't think anyone on the planet would guess she's 81 if they didn't already know.

She must have the same doctor that Jane Fonda has. That is good work. Like "Susan Sarandon's fresh facelift at the time she did Feud" good.

That to me is the gold standard of a mature facelift. 

Maybe Ryan Murphy can use Donna Mills to play a society rich bitch in something? She's totally the type of glamorous older woman he likes to use. I can just see her in a scene with Matt Bomer as her boy toy right now.

Edited August 9, 2022 by methodwriter85

[Ms Blue Jay]

Oh god, Susan Surandon looks amazing.  She and her daughter are so beautiful.

On 8/8/2022 at 1:33 PM, Bruinsfan said:

I just saw Donna Mills in Nope a few weeks ago. I don't think anyone on the planet would guess she's 81 if they didn't already know.

Thanks, I didn't realize that's her.

[methodwriter85]

Charles Esten is pretty much what I think Zach Efron would have looked like in his 50's if Zac hadn't fucked so much with his face. 

Someone was joking around in the Outer Banks thread about how Chip looks like Zac Efron in old age make-up, and I was like, "I can see that, but unfortunately we'll never really know what Zac Efron might have looked like in old age because he went way too far with plastic surgery."

[Browncoat]

I went to college with Chip and his wife, Patty.  I knew her, but only met him once or twice while they were dating.

[methodwriter85]

21 hours ago, Browncoat said:

I went to college with Chip and his wife, Patty.  I knew her, but only met him once or twice while they were dating.

I don't think Chip looks like he's gotten any plastic surgery, but he also didn't really get to play a "leading man" role until his 40's when he got cast in Nashville. Chip has mostly had more of a "hey, it's that guy" type of career. There's less pressure on character actors to look a certain way, although even that's changed. 

Zac fucked with his face because he wanted to go from boyishly handsome to ruggedly handsome instead of waiting for time to do that for him and this is the end result.

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[Ms Blue Jay]

Chrissy looks weirder and weirder all the time.

[Ms Blue Jay]

On 8/27/2022 at 7:16 PM, methodwriter85 said:

Charles Esten is pretty much what I think Zach Efron would have looked like in his 50's if Zac hadn't fucked so much with his face. 

He looks cute.   I thought he was one of those regular Hallmark guys but I was thinking of Dylan Neal.

[methodwriter85]

2 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

He looks cute.   I thought he was one of those regular Hallmark guys but I was thinking of Dylan Neal.

No, he got his start on Who's Line Is It Anyway and mostly stuck to comedies like The Office as a "Hey, It's That Guy" type. Chip eventually got himself cast in the soap opera Nashville as the male lead, where he also got to sing and be dramatic. Now he's the evil patriarch on the soap opera Outer Banks on Netflix.

[Ms Blue Jay]

Just now, methodwriter85 said:

No, he got his start on Who's Line Is It Anyway and mostly stuck to comedies like The Office as a "Hey, It's That Guy" type. Chip eventually got himself cast in the soap opera Nashville as the male lead, where he also got to sing and be dramatic. Now he's the evil patriarch on the soap opera Outer Banks on Netflix.

Yes I know him mostly from "New Adventures of Old Christine".

1 minute ago, methodwriter85 said:

No, he got his start on Who's Line Is It Anyway and mostly stuck to comedies like The Office as a "Hey, It's That Guy" type. 

Ohhhhhhhhh yeah he was Boss of the Stanford branch.

[Ms.Moon]

https://images.app.goo.gl/aYxUNyp3xsTnMcdu5
Ignore Harry Styles’ disaster of an outfit, in fact ignore him altogether.  This is about Chris Pine. Chris Pine needs to stop here.  This may be fillers and they may not have settled yet, but he needs to stop right here before his next stop is at Mickey Rourke Blvd.  

[Scarlett45]

On 9/7/2022 at 4:55 PM, Ms.Moon said:

https://images.app.goo.gl/aYxUNyp3xsTnMcdu5
Ignore Harry Styles’ disaster of an outfit, in fact ignore him altogether.  This is about Chris Pine. Chris Pine needs to stop here.  This may be fillers and they may not have settled yet, but he needs to stop right here before his next stop is at Mickey Rourke Blvd.  

All Chris Pine needs is some rest and a facial and he would de-age 20years. You’re so right. 

On 8/28/2022 at 4:28 PM, methodwriter85 said:

I don't think Chip looks like he's gotten any plastic surgery, but he also didn't really get to play a "leading man" role until his 40's when he got cast in Nashville. Chip has mostly had more of a "hey, it's that guy" type of career. There's less pressure on character actors to look a certain way, although even that's changed. 

Zac fucked with his face because he wanted to go from boyishly handsome to ruggedly handsome instead of waiting for time to do that for him and this is the end result.

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 I think he would’ve aged quite well if he had kept up a good lifestyle (no smoking, minimal drinking, no drugs etc). 

[methodwriter85]

On 9/7/2022 at 5:55 PM, Ms.Moon said:

This is about Chris Pine. Chris Pine needs to stop here.  This may be fillers and they may not have settled yet, but he needs to stop right here before his next stop is at Mickey Rourke Blvd.  

Mickey Rourke is tragic. 

[methodwriter85]

I think Kiernan Shipka got a boob job. Very tasteful and subtle, though- she's pretty tiny and she went for an appropriate size.

You can kinda see the shape of the implants in this dress here:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbSyARspJJ-/

[Scarlett45]

20 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

I think Kiernan Shipka got a boob job. Very tasteful and subtle, though- she's pretty tiny and she went for an appropriate size.

You can kinda see the shape of the implants in this dress here:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbSyARspJJ-/

Looks that way to me. A good push-up bra wouldn’t give her the extra tissue on the side near her arm pit. 
 

I agree- she looks nice. 

[methodwriter85]

1 hour ago, Scarlett45 said:

Looks that way to me. A good push-up bra wouldn’t give her the extra tissue on the side near her arm pit. 

I agree- she looks nice. 

As someone who watched The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina (which she started filming at 18-19), I was just like, "There is no way she suddenly got larger breasts without gaining weight" when I saw her scene on Riverdale. At first I wondered if it was a good padded wonder bra but I saw that dress picture and I was like, "Yep, boob job." Really good one, though. Kiernan went for a size that was appropriate for her frame.

Edited September 13, 2022 by methodwriter85

[Ms Blue Jay]

Julia Roberts looks INCREDIBLE.  I am in awe.

Sarah Michelle Gellar also looks phenomenal in the new Netflix comedy "Do Revenge".

I know that this is kind of like the opposite of plastic surgery but I'm just so incredibly happy when women mostly leave their faces alone.  It pleases me to no end.

Edited September 17, 2022 by Ms Blue Jay

[methodwriter85]

Lorry Hill's new video on Zac Efron:

He's added in cheek implants to go along with yet another new jaw.

If he keeps up with this I can't imagine what he's going to look like at 40.

Of course, he's still using the broken jaw excuse.

[Bruinsfan]

1 hour ago, methodwriter85 said:

If he keeps up with this I can't imagine what he's going to look like at 40.

I'm beginning to see a resemblance to a young Timothy Dalton. Maybe if he aims future changes in that direction all will work out well? Dalton aged really well, and is still dashing at 76.

[Mabinogia]

1 hour ago, methodwriter85 said:

If he keeps up with this I can't imagine what he's going to look like at 40.

Honestly the only reason I knew that right side picture wasn't him at 45 is because I know who he is and that he's not that old. While he doesn't look bad in the "after" photo, he just looks so old, like a 45 year old account exec.

[methodwriter85]

1 hour ago, Bruinsfan said:

I'm beginning to see a resemblance to a young Timothy Dalton. Maybe if he aims future changes in that direction all will work out well? Dalton aged really well, and is still dashing at 76.

He seems to have decided to go with a longer, leaner face like Timothy Dalton's so I can see what you're saying. Let's just hope that he doesn't do anything else to his eyes because that tends to destroy a person's face more than anything else.

Edited September 20, 2022 by methodwriter85

[Ms Blue Jay]

2 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

Lorry Hill's new video on Zac Efron:

He's added in cheek implants to go along with yet another new jaw.

If he keeps up with this I can't imagine what he's going to look like at 40.

Of course, he's still using the broken jaw excuse.

This is so sad!  He was so cute in 17 Again.  Ironically that movie also stars Matthew Perry, another once beautiful man who won't stop going under the knife.

Edited September 20, 2022 by Ms Blue Jay

[methodwriter85]

1 hour ago, Mabinogia said:

Honestly the only reason I knew that right side picture wasn't him at 45 is because I know who he is and that he's not that old. While he doesn't look bad in the "after" photo, he just looks so old, like a 45 year old account exec.

I think that's what he was going for. He wanted to look older to be taken more seriously instead of waiting to actually be older. I also wonder if he's insecure right now because he wasn't able to capitalize on the success of the Greatest Showman. His Ted Bundy movie didn't generate raves and Firestarter bombed badly. Of course 2020 killed the momentum of a lot of careers.

Edited September 20, 2022 by methodwriter85

[Scarlett45]

16 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

Lorry Hill's new video on Zac Efron:

He's added in cheek implants to go along with yet another new jaw.

If he keeps up with this I can't imagine what he's going to look like at 40.

Of course, he's still using the broken jaw excuse.

This popped up in my feed and I came to share. Zak was SO CUTE, just god given cuteness I don't know why he waned to change his face. Of course anyone can do what they want with their own body/face, but if you're going to spend money and go through the pain of surgery, the results should be worth it.

[JackDuncan]

There is no celebrity nowadays that has never got any plastic surgeries. I am a specialist in this domain, and I can recognize people who have had at least one plastic surgery. They are some common things that can be noticeable on people's faces. I got my certification in aesthetics from https://www.nwcollege.edu/programs/advanced-aesthetics. An easy way to understand if a celebrity is getting plastic surgery is to find some old photos. Sometimes you can see two different people in the photos.

Edited October 26, 2022 by JackDuncan

[Bruinsfan]

Isn't Joan Collins terrified of surgery and consequently caked under a Queen Elizabeth I-esque layer of makeup instead?

[BlueSkies]

5 hours ago, JackDuncan said:

There is no celebrity nowadays that have never got any plastic surgeries.

Jennifer Connelly maybe?

I am definitely not the fan I used to be of her.  Loved most her 80's/90's performances but overall I don't think she messed with herself too much

Edited October 21, 2022 by BlueSkies

[Ms Blue Jay]

Jennifer's nose was done.  Most female actors do their nose.  I'm hoping one day there's some kind of tell all about a Harvey Weinstein like figure who went around telling every beautiful female actor to do this.  Because I don't get where all the pressure comes from.  Especially from actors who used to be models.  Models go to Hollywood and start fixing their noses.  It makes no sense.

Edited October 23, 2022 by Ms Blue Jay

[Bastet]

On 10/23/2022 at 11:11 AM, Ms Blue Jay said:

Models go to Hollywood and start fixing their noses.  It makes no sense.

Models are required to have insanely thin bodies, especially those doing runway work, but they're allowed to have interesting facial features.  (In fact, I find some of them fugly.)  But a blandly beautiful face is preferred on female actors.  It's getting better, but the pressure is still strong to have a nose that is in no way distinctive.  I'm so glad Cybill Shepherd didn't change hers when she transitioned from modeling to acting; it's perfect for her beautiful face.

Edited October 24, 2022 by Bastet