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S08.E18: Seismic Shifts

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buttersister

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wrapping things up' feel.  

That’s a wrap for  me.

They did not have Graham mimic Bobby in his sacrifice. Oh but wait, they’re hacks now, so of course they did. Cheesy re-entry for Eddie, and Ryan still can’t act his way out of a paper bag.

Kenneth Choi made the most of his stuff, but was there a soul anywhere who didn’t know what the baby’s name was going to be?

I don’t need to follow Athena Grant Nash third-husband’s name. And that HGTV house, bidding war, please.

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Chaos Theory

Chaos Theory

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A lot of seasons finales are written like they are series finales.    I think it is done on purpose to close out season long story arcs so the show can “start fresh” the next season.   
 

Naming the kid Robert was obvious and a pretty terrible trope but in this case it made sense.  I also like that Athena is selling the house she and Bobby built.  It should be a house for a family plus it leaves room for Athena to find her own place in the world without a man.  
 

Chimney is so going to be Captain.

I still think I am pretty much done with this show.   But as season finales go this was not terrible.

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chlban

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I used to love this show but have found it unwatchable for a while. I mostly stopped watching after a season of Jennifer Love Hewitt but I find I really don't most of the cast. Hen and Bobby were the exceptions and now one of those is gone. Years ago, to my utter surprise because I thought I would hate it, I got hooked on the Walking Dead. For all it's gore, it was an interesting drama. Then they decided to kill off a fan favorite, Glen. I think I watched maybe 2 more episodes but I knew I was done. I obviously wasn't alone because ratings dropped significantly. When I heard about Bobby being killed off, I immediately thought this was their Glen moment. Shows like this with such constantly tortured characters need an Anchor. I will probably give Nashville a shot, but my guess is next season will be this shows last.

 

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marceline

marceline

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I liked this episode. It was a fitting ending to the season. I've seen enough medical shows that I expected that once Graham was freed we'd get a complication. Perhaps a fat embolism or crush syndrome. The idea that he'd been impaled and bleeding that whole time didn't occur to me. And when they asked him why he would sacrifice himself and he said "It was the right thing to do," I kind of teared up. I'm just sorry Graham risked himself for such an asshole.

I'm so glad we didn't have to deal with Maddie giving birth. We can just assume it was a nice, normal birth. Does the whole family now go by "Han" instead of "Buckley-Han" now?  Everyone called it that they would name the baby after Bobby and the fact is Chimney wouldn't be there to see his new son were it not for Bobby's sacrifice.

I still wish Buck could be transferred, especially now that Eddie is back. It's like he's being rewarded for his codependency.

Athena selling the house hit me harder than I thought it would. I wonder where she will live now. 

This was a good way to end the season whether they knew they were coming back or not and I’m glad the show gave us three episodes to deal with the aftermath of losing Bobby. I think it was a good decision.

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howiveaddict

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5 hours ago, NeenerNeener said:

Is it "normal" to make an EMT the captain of a fire fighting unit? Do Hen and/or Chimney know enough about fighting fires to give orders to the folks under their command?

I assumed they are cross trained. After all, we seeing them fighting fires all the time.   I know on the old show Emergency, the Paramedics are also cross trained to fight fires.  Now, where I live, the paramedics are connected to a private ambulance service, so that is all they do.

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stonehaven

stonehaven

I tuned in for one last Bobby sighting. Aside from the naming of the baby, there was none.

I'm done with this show.  I haven't really enjoyed it since my Mom died a week before the Season 6 premiere.  It was ousjow. Wedcall each other during commercial breaks and I'd have explain anything she didn't get. When she passed, it lost that magic and now with Bobby gone, it really has lost it's shine.

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Clanstarling

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I guess I'm a softy. I was more moved by this episode than when Bobby died. I thought it was pretty well done, though it had it's flaws. I liked the fast-forward at the end to set up everyone for the beginning of next season.

I still like the show, even though I'd like to see more silly rescues. I like the characters, and ultimately that's what will keep me watching. 

I hated Bobby and Athena's house. It just seemed so cold to me. But then, I'm old and I prefer wood and warm colors.

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Irlandesa

Irlandesa

5 hours ago, marceline said:

I still wish Buck could be transferred, especially now that Eddie is back. It's like he's being rewarded for his codependency.

I'm not sure what his reward was.  He's basically told he has to stay put even though transferring, at least for a while, would be good for him.  He lost his boyfriend.  And because Eddie decided to come back, he's basically homeless. 

I also would have been bummed if this was Athena's ending.  It was probably a good idea for her to sell her house but she's still in a pretty sad place. I don't think she's ever going to get over losing Bobby but when her last ep airs, I hope she's in a happier place.

I think only Hen (Mara adoption), Chim & Maddie (possible captaincy for him and new baby for both) and Eddie (back in LA with Chris) truly got happy endings.

3 hours ago, stonehaven said:

I tuned in for one last Bobby sighting.

I think one might have been filmed but cut which, if so, was there not something in the diaster that could have gone to make it shorter? 

 

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Diana Berry

Diana Berry

4 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

I'm not sure what his reward was.  He's basically told he has to stay put even though transferring, at least for a while, would be good for him.  He lost his boyfriend.  And because Eddie decided to come back, he's basically homeless. 

I also would have been bummed if this was Athena's ending.  It was probably a good idea for her to sell her house but she's still in a pretty sad place. I don't think she's ever going to get over losing Bobby but when her last ep airs, I hope she's in a happier place.

I think only Hen (Mara adoption), Chim & Maddie (possible captaincy for him and new baby for both) and Eddie (back in LA with Chris) truly got happy endings.

I think one might have been filmed but cut which, if so, was there not something in the diaster that could have gone to make it shorter? 

 

It would have been nice if he would have been standing in The doorway of Maddie’s room watching.  Fade to black.  I miss Bobby. It won’t be the same. 

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CoyoteBlue

CoyoteBlue

21 hours ago, NeenerNeener said:

Is it "normal" to make an EMT the captain of a fire fighting unit? Do Hen and/or Chimney know enough about fighting fires to give orders to the folks under their command?

Chim was actually the acting captain when Bobby was suspended for MInnesota, so whatever the qualifications are, he had them ages ago. Everyone bitched about his reign, but he qualified.

I wish Athena would have at least called the baby "Robbie" or something. That kid does not deserve the crushing expectations of being named directly after Saint Bobby. Robert has a good number of nicknames; find another one, Hans.

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jah1986

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I REALLY wish this had been the series finale. It was a good episode. Hated naming the baby after Bobby, but I get. That was a cute baby.

Chim will make a good captain, Girard is gone back to TV, Athena sold the house (she will get a pretty penny for that house). 

Sue was back! I love Sue, just wish we could get more of her and Josh together. Maybe next season Maddie will be everyone's supervisor thus explaining why she can't wear a proper uniform.

I didn't feel anything at Eddie coming back, I'm even over Christopher.

Please make next season the last.

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Whodunnit

Whodunnit

In this final episode Chimney, who is clearly fed up, gave a big speech that basically amounted to telling everyone to get over themselves.

But as well intentioned as his speech was, grief isn't something you can just get over. It takes effort to maintain friendships especially after something so life-changing as the death of a loved one. 

I feel like in the last few episodes they have focused a lot on the drama and no where near enough on realistic resolution. I guess it doesn't make for good TV.

13 hours ago, marceline said:

He’s not homeless. We saw him looking at a new place to live.

It takes time to find and move into a place especially since we know Buck has bad credit. He can look all he wants it doesn't guarantee that he'll find a place on his meager salary in LA. (I looked it up, a firefighter's salary is less than half of the amount needed to live comfortably in California.)

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iMonrey

iMonrey

1 hour ago, Whodunnit said:

n this final episode Chimney, who is clearly fed up, gave a big speech that basically amounted to telling everyone to get over themselves.

But as well intentioned as his speech was, grief isn't something you can just get over. It takes effort to maintain friendships especially after something so life-changing as the death of a loved one. 

I didn't read it that way. Chim wasn't asking them to get over their grief. In fact he pointed out they are all still mourning. His point was that leaving would just mean they would be grieving alone.

I thought the episode was well made, in terms of spectacle. The ending with the sappy music was a bit much though. And good grief, what a downer this show has become overall. Even when they manage to pull off a pretty impressive rescue episode I'm thinking of what a bummer this show has turned into.

The whole arc with Eddie made zero sense (starting with the preposterous doppelgänger of his dead wife). His reason for moving to Texas was to be nearer to Christopher. Once he put on his big boy pants and stood up to his parents, what was the point of staying there? Let alone going back?

Have they ever explained why Maddie calls her brother Buck? His name is Evan Buckley. I understand his friends and co-workers calling him Buck but why would his sister? I get that it might be confusing if she were the only character on the show to call him Evan, but I can't imagine calling my own brother by our shared last name or even a shortened version of it.

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marceline

marceline

8 hours ago, Whodunnit said:

It takes time to find and move into a place especially since we know Buck has bad credit. He can look all he wants it doesn't guarantee that he'll find a place on his meager salary in LA. (I looked it up, a firefighter's salary is less than half of the amount needed to live comfortably in California.)

He found a place. At the end he was telling the agent that he’d been subletting his last one. Why are we creating imaginary scenarios where Buck is a victim? Even in the show people acted like Eddie returning to Texas was something Buck wouldn’t be able to handle. 

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Irlandesa

Irlandesa

On 5/18/2025 at 3:50 AM, marceline said:

He found a place. At the end he was telling the agent that he’d been subletting his last one.

The "last place" he was subletting was Eddie's house. We saw that Eddie and Chris returned to LA and took the house back.  I imagine Buck isn't technically on the street or unhoused but as of the finale, he doesn't have a home.

On 5/17/2025 at 7:22 PM, Whodunnit said:

It takes time to find and move into a place especially since we know Buck has bad credit.

It'll be interesting if they follow that up because it'd be a bit surprising if a guy who could afford that loft and buy a new car would have bad credit unless the process of canceling his lease to sublet Eddie's house led to that.

On 5/17/2025 at 9:03 PM, iMonrey said:

I didn't read it that way. Chim wasn't asking them to get over their grief. In fact he pointed out they are all still mourning. His point was that leaving would just mean they would be grieving alone.

But they had been basically grieving alone or apart from one another so I'm not sure how a speech is going to fix that.  I mean, it'a show so of course it will but for a show that wanted to explore the process of grief after Bobby's death, I wish they hadn't spent so much time on a disaster in the finale.  If they want to do a character based story, they should give their characters time to breathe.

On 5/17/2025 at 9:03 PM, iMonrey said:

The whole arc with Eddie made zero sense (starting with the preposterous doppelgänger of his dead wife). His reason for moving to Texas was to be nearer to Christopher. Once he put on his big boy pants and stood up to his parents, what was the point of staying there? Let alone going back?

I thought it started out okay as a fair and natural consequence of Eddie's actions but it feels like the arc changed. The reason Eddie went to TX was to actually repair his relationship with Chris after he caught him kissing his late wife's doppelganger.  But somewhere in the middle of that arc, it changed from how Chris felt betrayed to a conflict with his parents and Chris feeling abandoned. 

As for why Eddie would go back, well he did have a job offer and he bought a whole damn house.  He's giving up both to go back to renting and assuming LAFD will take him back and put him with the 118. 

On 5/17/2025 at 9:03 PM, iMonrey said:

Have they ever explained why Maddie calls her brother Buck? His name is Evan Buckley. I understand his friends and co-workers calling him Buck but why would his sister?

She and most of the other characters have called him Evan at times.  I think it makes sense when they're in group settings when everyone else knows him by Buck.  My dad went by nickname based on his last name and his sister would use it at times when she was around his friends or in-laws who mostly used the nickname. 

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tennisgurl

tennisgurl

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Its really too bad that the show has taken such a crappy turn, because this was actually a pretty good season finale. The building collapse was a good more manageable disaster, we had some fun one off characters to be rescued, and some actual character growth. It feels a little too late though, after such a miserable stupid season that ended up killing off the shows central character for shock value. Its so frustrating knowing that the writers still have good stuff in them, they just get too distracted by stupid stories about super viruses and identical strangers and evil politicians. 

I am fine with Chim becoming the new Captain, he's the one that I trust the most with the position, but it feels weird that they seem to have decided on that because he told everyone to get their shit together in one speech. I wouldn't honestly blame someone in the real world for wanting a transfer after losing someone in such a traumatic way when you were so close with, everything would constantly remind you of them, but maybe its different when you have such a dangerous job, plus its very on brand for this show. 

I think we all knew that Chim and Maddie's baby could only be named after Bobby, which is a nice idea, but I wish that they would have talked to Athena about it first. Poor Athena, honestly its impressive how well she's doing after losing yet another man she loves in such an awful way. 

I am normally a completionist when it comes to TV, I will watch some impressively crappy shows to the bitter end, but its harder when I am so annoyed about a character death. Not sure if I'll be back next season, but we'll see. 

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